This is D C W.

Just being in this miserable piece of.

Oh, my God.

We're not a wrestling organization anymore. We're the biggest puppet show.

I don't need a weapon.

My hands are my weapon.

Weapons.

Quote to Raven Evermore. I'm pregnant.

The era of the ecw.

I have something to say to you.

Welcome to the Extreme ECW Livecast. And we are back for a special episode. And this is SuperCard special number 19. And we're gonna break this bad boy into two parts. So this is part one of our coverage of November to remember 1996. From November 16th of 1996, I'm Mike Prue along with Rick BB and also. Welcome back. JV how you guys doing?

Doing good, man. Feel good to be back.

With a month and a half break from the. From the Extreme cast.

Yes, sir.

Now you're back for the big show.

I think that was the Rolls.

Yeah, it's back for the big.

That's good that the plan came to fruition, right?

Yeah.

I love it when a plan comes together.

Is it fruition or truition?

Fruition.

Fruition.

Fruition, right?

Yep. So we're back and we'll be wrapping up 1996 too, on the road to finishing up 96, heading to 97. Yeah, man. All right, so let's get into it. Well, we were just talking and we usually have a little time with Ben Martin having a question. So where did we follow up on that? The listeners know our latest from. From Ben. Actually, I think. I think he did send a question.

Did he?

Yeah, but I think it was just like chat about it on. On Twitter.

Okay. Yeah, actually, you're right. Yeah. What the heck was it?

Look it up.

Okay. Oh, I found it. But what wrestler from Smoky Mountain Wrestling would you have liked to see?

Yeah, yeah, that's right. And I responded that Bobby Blaze could have. I think he could have gotten over in ecw.

Yeah, Yep. Bobby and Dirty White Boy.

Yeah, definitely. Yeah.

He had thrown out Buddy Landell and Bruiser Bedlam. And while.

Yeah, I'll.

I'll buy Bruiser Bedlam in terms of being like, involved in, like a brawl type of thing. Like, he'd be like an Axle Rotten. I'd see him as, you know, we don't need another Axel Rotten. You know, we don't need another. Another Hack Myers. That's just right. A big, burly, brawling dude. And as far as Buddy Lando, like, I like Buddy, but I don't see him being anything other than he'd be a good hand to Wrestle Shane.

Yeah.

And that would be that.

He's a good promo, though, too.

Right. But I don't see them being able to do a lot with him because otherwise, besides the fact of he'd probably flake out and quit or stop showing up.

That's true.

What? You know, like, he's. He's a good wrestler. Like, Buddy Lindell is a great wrestler. But what I. I don't see him really fitting in. Like, I feel like he's. He's Memphis, you know.

Right.

He's a, like a Southern wrestling kind of guy. And I feel like he would have gotten on by the crowd and. Yeah, he could do promos and he could, you know, call him whatever, but I don't know that he would have really, like, stuck around, you know?

That's a good point. Yeah. While you're saying that, I was thinking of others, and I just saw how much somebody would not fit in. Ecw first person that came to mind was Tim Horner. Imagine Tim Horner and ecw.

Oh, my God.

White Lightning.

Who's your favorite wrestler? White Lightning.

Oh, I'll never forget the episode where he was singing Shameless. Is it Shameless?

Yeah.

Garth Brooks.

Yeah, we're not playing that as the out.

Yeah, let's not do that.

I'm Shameless. I am Shameless. Singing like I do. All right, so let's get on with it. Please give us a follow on ex Twitter at Extreme Cast. Follow me Mike Pro at NPRUA3 all JV at John Van Damage and follow Rick BB at Leo Wyatt 85. And also check out JV and I's podcast, the Bottom Line Wrestling Cast, the career of Stone Cold Steve Austin. And we are still currently at the point where we're re releasing. Is that a word? Re releasing?

I think that's a word.

Yeah.

Sounds. Sounds right?

Yeah.

So, yeah, so we're going through and re releasing the. The Hollywood Blondes episode. So as of right now, there have been three Hollywood Blondes episodes out. We've done five total. So the next two episodes will be episode four and five of the Hollywood Blondes. And then we're back with a brand new Hollywood Blondes episode, episode six, which will be the last of the Hollywood Blondes before we continue on with stunning Steve in 1994. We'll be back with new episodes in about like a month, month and a half or so after the new year. So please check us out and check out the archive. Many great episodes covering the entire career of Stone Cold Steve Austin at Bottom Line Cast. All right. And Also, check out Rick Beebe's podcast, the Hybrid Wrestling Cast. This is two episodes currently available, covering Pancrase.

Yep.

And more soon to come.

Yeah, yeah. The. The third episode. The third episode. The third event. It's like, well over an hour long, and the other two have been fairly short because they were kind of a, you know, short matches or whatever. So I've been trying to get. I've been trying to find time to record it, but as. As I'm sure you understand, pro, you know, having kids and it's Christmas time, sometimes things kind of slip by the wayside.

You know that.

Yeah.

So be on the lookout. Subscribe to Hybrid Wrestling Cast and new episodes coming soon.

Yeah, I'm. I'm hoping to. I'm hoping to get. Get it out around Christmas, like maybe the weekend. The weekend. The Friday before. Yeah. Which as we record this.

Yeah. Six days away.

What day is Christmas? Tuesday.

Christmas is a Sunday.

It's on Monday.

Oh, Monday.

Monday.

Christmas Eve is Sunday.

Yeah, Christmas Eve is Sunday, which, to.

Me, Christmas Eve is basically Christmas. I mean, it's part of Christmas. Visit some people on Christmas Eve, open a present on Christmas Eve. Yeah, I always like Christmas Eve better than Christmas. The excitement is still there, and then Christmas is like. The morning's obviously great on Christmas, but then the rest of the day is kind of like. Yeah, I guess, depending on what. Right.

Well, yeah, like, I'm just like. It's just another day.

Right.

Like, all right, am I gonna go see?

Yeah. For you. Yeah. Right.

You know, so, like, for you, it's a whole other totally different experience.

Right. They get to open their presents in the morning and, you know, play with the toys. A lot of times that means that you gotta, like, push it together or you gotta clean up the mess and. Yeah.

Deal with all the packaging that they.

Yeah.

You know, that it comes in, all the little twist ties and.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So with that said, you know, to the listeners out there, I hope you have great holidays. You're probably listening to this right around Christmas, you know, might be out right before Christmas or right after Christmas. So if it is after. Hope you guys had a great Christmas. All right, so like I said, we're here for November to remember 1996. This is one of the biggest shows, or I think it is the biggest show that ECW has had up to this point.

Absolutely.

The jam packed the ECW arena with as many people that could fit in there. So a lot of hype for this show. And like I said, we're doing the first half so we're not going to get to the the main events where we got the undercard this time, but there's some good stuff there. I'm gonna check out Stevie Richards vs David Tyler Morton Jericho, that name which we we learned is Kid Cash. Yeah, we will, you know, go on to be one of the main guys in ECW in a few years. Yep. We have Axel Rotten versus Hack. Myers act as Hack. And we got the Bub Ray Dudley versus Devon Dudley. And then two big matches. Well, actually one of them is big Ravi and Damon Sabu versus the Eliminators, number one contenders match for the tag team titles. Whoever wins that match will have a title match later in the show. And then you have Mikey Whipreck versus the newly arrived returned Rather, Chris Candido. He's taking no. Now he's badass again. Skip inside blonde. Yep. Skip is dead.

A legit superstar.

Yeah, yeah.

Right. So a pro. Well, he was there. He was there first and then, you know, and he went on to live in Sunny Shadow.

Yeah, he will remind us. He was on the first card in this building. So.

Yeah. All right, all right, so we're gonna get situated here. We'll. I'll give a countdown. As always, those of you that are listening and you want to watch along, we're using the. The original VHS copy version of it. But it's the same thing that's on the network, I'm pretty sure on Peacock it's just, you know, be slightly different with the music and whatnot. Maybe edit it a little bit, but it should be pretty spot on to the same amount of time. So I think you could follow along pretty well if you just played it from there. So I'll give a countdown. You guys ready? All set?

Yes, sir.

Situated. All right, I'll give countdown. Three down to one. Say play. When I say play, we all click play and begin. Three, two, one, play. All right, so as I mentioned, you know, you get a black screen for the first 10 seconds here. There comes down November to. Remember ECW Arena.

Yeah, the Thug Life type of font for November to.

Oh, yeah. What was that called?

Secrecy.

Old, Old English. Right?

Yeah, Old English. There you go. Yeah, yeah.

Everybody wanted that back in the day, like at this time in the 90s. Oh, yeah.

Everyone on your computer, those fountain pens. And we're drawing with them. Yeah.

Taz and Fonzie fix my volume here, as always. Look at Fonzie rocking his leather jacket, his leather gloves.

Leather gloves, Yep. He's putting them down his pants. Didn't even put him in his pockets. Just stuck them in the front of his pants.

And now Fonzie looks like somebody's uncle.

Yeah, he does.

He's Uncle Fonzie. He's not. He's the kind of guy, he's never a parent. He's just always the uncle.

Uncle Billy.

Uncle Billy. Uncle Billy from It's a Wonderful Life?

Sure.

Uncle Billy as a pet mouse or something like that. Take a listen to Taz. We know we got some good coming up here.

There's a bunch of wrestlers signing contracts. What they're signing contracts for is this big show. This big show that's going to happen. I don't believe this. Quarter of the new year. That's right, Pauline, you son of a. I'm ruining your surprise. I'm squashing surprise. The people you.

I'll give a.

It's hard to take someone seriously with that hat on.

He looks more.

Way more badass without it.

He does.

I mean, I don't have surprise of.

The pay per view.

Yeah. Say I don't have a. A leather version of it, but I do have a hat that's like that.

What kind of. What are they called? Those hats.

That is just. That's. That's tough.

No, the one I have, it's just black. Like. I don't know.

They have the classy ones, which.

Yeah, those. Mine's like. It's like black cotton or whatever, but it's well, it's well made. Like, it's not cheap.

Yeah, he's got like.

There's a lot of.

Yeah, reminds me of like loose leather.

Yeah, yeah.

90S.

Reminds me of Triple H's Harley Davidson leather hat that he used to wear. Yeah, he's aware. Backwards, though.

That's like a kangal.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what sucks? Leather. Leather baseball hats.

Oh, God.

Yeah, those were popular. Now you see some of the leather base out baseball hat. It's like, wow, aggressive decision to make in the morning. Leather baseball. A leather Jacksonville Jaguars hat.

That certainly is a choice.

All right, so Taz claims that he's gonna main event the show in April. He's calling out Sabu.

Did he say April?

I think he did.

Okay. Because I was gonna say. I thought around this time they were. They kept.

They were not sure. Yeah, maybe it was March or maybe you just said in the spring. Yeah.

Shut the up. Yeah, I know.

What'd you say?

No, I was gonna say because at this point. At this point, we. They haven't gotten to the. The Wonderland dog park in Revere.

Oh, God. Yeah, we're gonna cover that separately, right?

Yeah. I mean, I don't think they mention it or even. Or show it obviously, hardcore tv.

So, yeah, we'll bring it up on a hardcore TV episode.

Yeah.

You know what?

You know what?

I'm not going to waste my time, Pauly. Like I told you, come that big show, I'm the man. I'm the man that's taking your boy down.

Fake psychosis in the cross.

Yeah.

Rams Jersey guys in effect.

Yeah. This time. Right? They're the LA Rams.

No, they were in St. Louis at.

That point, weren't they, 96? Yeah, yeah, right.

They were LA, then St. Louis, then LA, right?

Yes. And I want to say way, way, way back in the day. They were in Cleveland before they went like in like the 30s.

Wasn't that like the St. Louis Browns in the 30s?

Yeah, yeah.

Cleveland. Yeah, Cleveland, Cleveland.

Then Los Angeles, then St. Louis from 95 to 2015. So, yeah, 96. They were in on. They're in St. Louis. Yep.

All right, so we got our first match here. Morton Dony Jr. More, more. Donny Jr. In the house. Bwo. Oh, that's new too, right?

They're taking over.

There's the bad guy. The blue guy.

Yep.

Crowd loves it.

Oh, this is great.

This is pretty awesome to imagine being there.

This is the debut.

There's Hollywood Nova, Big Stevie. Cool.

I haven't seen them yet.

So this is new.

Yeah, they.

They. This is, I believe, when they debuted it. Yeah, because the shirts will change.

So Hollywood Nova is not even Hollywood Nova yet though, at this point. No, he's like Hollywood Bob Cooper or something like that.

Yeah. You can see how much the crowd loved them. They've never, they've never done any. Anything like this. And they're chanting, bwo.

He has a chicken bone instead of a toothpick. Why?

You know something, dude? That entire brother, ever since me and the big guy and the extra, extra big guy been here in the ecw.

Dude.

Dude, come now.

We're not you Hollywood Nova.

This must be Joey. Called him Hollywood Nova.

Stevie cool.

Big Stevie cool. You fat. Is that what they chant?

Yeah, the chat. You found it. The blue Meanie.

I love the movements that mean he's making. Start off with three simple words.

We're taking over.

It's funny how this one, one time skit turned into like the rest of their career.

And it's the. The highlight of their career, right?

Yeah. For all of them.

BWO even makes it into wwe.

Yep.

Crazy.

The BWO had to turn down a special engagement at The Cable Ace Awards.

Cable Ace awards with billionaire.

10 to come to this oversized welfare office.

Baby. Jericho is.

What are you gonna do?

He's gonna punch you in the nuts a bunch of times.

And Big Stevie Cool.

Big Stevie Cool.

You know those BWO signs already? No.

Hollywood Bob Star.

Bob Star. That's what.

Hollywood Bob Star. That's what it is.

Nova Star. Well, I guess Bob Star is. What did he say?

A little aspect to W. You punk ass. Meanwhile, I'm pretty sure that Kid Cash is about the same size as Nova.

Right? Apparently, Bob Saw is a Maryland indie wrestler that. That Nova knew.

Yeah, probably.

It was just like a rib. Inside joke.

Ladies and gentlemen, from Nashville, Tennessee, weighing at 205 pounds, David Morton Tyler Jericho.

A mouthful of a name. Yeah, pick a name, any name.

That's. We know who that is. That's Jason Sensation, right?

No.

Kind of looks like him. It's not.

Does look like him, though.

Yeah, he's way too jacked.

That's Kid Cash.

That's who that is. Why is his name so whacked right now?

His. Okay, his real name is David Cash, but he was trained by Ricky Morton, hence the Morton. And the. The Jericho is because he kind of sort of looks like Chris Jericho. Okay, The. Tyler is probably his middle name. And you know, it's probably his real middle name or something. But I. I don't know why they decided to have him have a mouthful of a name.

Just call him like DJ More Morton or something.

Yeah, see, DJ Morton. I mean, even just call him, you know, David Morgan.

Look at that haircut. Yeah, the bangs like he's a five year old girl got her first haircut.

Yeah.

And Stevie displaying the arrogance of Kevin Nash.

Cocky Stevie. All right, so I got to pay attention to the mannerism. See if he's. See if he's doing a Kevin Nash impressions.

There he is.

There's Joey with the snark.

Yeah. Three man with three moves and doesn't get off his feet. I don't see Nash doing that.

Now the question is, is he gonna do the Nash moves? Like the. The foot choke in the corner, the elbows in the corner.

Yeah.

The big boot tearing a quad as he tries to walk across the ring. I know that that wouldn't happen for about 10 years, but still.

Oh, middle. All right, so Cash, the middle finger. Stevie, a little thrown off there. Lock up. Stevie's like playing with his tits.

Yeah, he was rubbing. He was rubbing his nipples. Like the guy in South Park.

Yeah, like the cable guys.

Yeah.

Down here.

What a shitty way to start a promo.

What is he say? The ugliest son of a. I think.

Yeah, he. Something something son of a.

Let me see.

So insecure.

That was a terrible back body drop.

That guy was ugly. What is, what's he talking about?

He's on drag. Big Stevie.

Cool.

From the eye. Yeah, I think I. I think what he said to him was, you are the gayest looking son of a I've ever seen. Ah, that could be too because know Stevie was just rubbing his nipples. So that probably pissed off kid Cash.

That is true. Oh, then he slapped him like a little.

Oh, now he's counted though.

He's grabbing his dick. Dick swing pulled him by the dick and threw him out of the ring.

Throwing up.

Oh, dive.

Wow.

Nice.

Yeah, good dive off the top rope to the outside by.

It takes talent to not hit, not hit the table as you come down.

Yeah. Wow. He's getting an ECW chant for it.

Yeah.

Are they saying you up?

No, they were saying ecw.

Okay.

Probably because of the dive, you know.

Yeah, yeah. It's honestly some good, good stuff from him. No wonder why he ends up sticking around.

Yeah, he's. He's not a bad worker.

Oh, Woo. Chance.

Now they want the figure 4. He wants to stomp on the junk.

Yeah.

Little Stevie. Cool. Oh man, this guy's got something going on with Stevie's package.

Yeah, he's a little too obsessed with Steven's dick.

Too much interest on the, on the penis in the ring.

Oh, we got a lion tamer there. He did it again.

I've never seen somebody break a Boston crab by elbowing the guy in the dick. Or the paint in that matter. Oh, that was a stiff one.

I say. I wonder if Cash look pissed at Stevie for rubbing his nipples earlier. That was a working nutshot.

Stevie for the ride.

Oh, Stevie gets him in the nuts. All right. So just. We just got a nut battle going on here. Like the movie you watched today, Mixed Nuts.

Yeah.

That'S how freaking big WCW was at this time. That influence, ECW definitely benefited from the rise of WCW and WWF in 96. 97 into 98.

Oh, definitely.

Like the craze of wrestling, ECW is existing at the right time to exist. And the argument can be made that they innovated the style that ended up being used in WCW and wwf. But without them, without the big companies putting on a national stage, they wouldn't be noticed. They would be.

I think you're right.

I know. Just, you know, us, you know, we were eating up wrestling, you know, whatever Wrestling was available. You wanted to watch it. This match is longer than I thought it would be. That's a good starting match. Good opener. Diamond cutter. Is it over? We're gonna win with a diamond cutter. Good thing.

Do you know what his finisher is?

Steve or Kid.

Kid Cash.

I don't know about now if he even has a finisher, but in 2000, he. He does have a finisher. It's a double underhook pile driver. Okay, so think like a pedigree, but instead of jumping and driving the guy face first, you pick him up like. And then drop him in a pile driver. Yeah, still with a double underhook. Yeah.

Yep.

I've seen that before.

Yeah.

It's weird. That's his.

Yeah. Because it's tiny.

Yeah. Well, no, no spoilers, but a lot of the guys that he's wrestling are about the same size as him in 2000, so it's not. It's not like he's. He's wrestling Stevie in 2000. Oh, looks actually. Is he going for it?

Oh, okay.

Oh, that. That was not good.

Brutal.

Yeah, maybe we shouldn't be doing that. David Tyler, Jericho Morton, whatever your name is.

Whoever the you are.

Yeah, pick a name.

Go work on that move. Kids.

Like in.

Need some practice.

Yeah, like in beyond the Mat, where. Where they're watching the. The two indie guys go, and one of them up, and McMahon's like, oh, that needs some more.

Oh, man, that sucked too.

That. Yeah, that was not good either.

Geez, that was a horrible hooking runner.

J across the back.

You think his haircut's shitty on purpose to look like Ricky Morton's haircut?

Yes.

Yeah.

And then in a couple of years, when he. He's trying to look like Kid Cat. Kid Rock. He has the Kid Rock haircut.

That's right. Yeah, that's right. I forgot. Forgot there was a knockoff Kid Rock wrestling that. And that was him.

Much, much better. Power bomb on the chick Stevie called.

Stevie called him A. And ironically, you know Kid Rock, Hank hung out with a. Yeah. Jo C. Jo C. Oh, he misses. He intended to miss. Then he gets hit in the nut for, like, the seventh time. It's out of that. Gonna need a nice pack with Stevie after this match. Oh, good and solid. Good night. Oh, I called it.

Yeah, you did. I didn't think you're gonna be right there.

Oh, he took my line. Good night, Big Stevie. Cool. The crowd's loving this bwo.

All right, we got the. Wearing the Maryland. The Marilyn Manson Axel Rotten.

That's right.

Or Marilyn Mason Martin. Yeah. It's not a gay gimmick. I'm gonna. I'm gonna say that every time. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

It's not a gay gimmick.

Nobody, nobody ever said it once.

Right. That's just Dave Meltzer's interpretation of Marilyn Manson.

Right.

He's just figured, oh, Marilyn Manson's gay, but this is not a gay gimmick. Manson was banging Rose McGowan.

Yes, he was.

Those big top ties. All right, we got the shot, Chance. What did you say?

I said she had the dsl, the dick sucking lips.

Oh, yeah, I know.

Yeah, yeah.

Mike's like, I know, I know.

I love dsl.

Now looking for lower ground. He won't get any breathing room for back. Myers.

Hack Myers.

He's the original shave your back guy.

Isn'T. Oh, speaking of dsl, isn't DSL like company as well?

DSL is also goods and stuff for Internet.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It was DSL instead of dial up.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah.

Yep.

Before you got broadband like we have now.

Right.

But there may. There may have been a company called DSL to this dhl. That's a shipping company.

Oh, well, may. That's what I was thinking.

Yeah.

The Shaw is down. Axel's got a chair and did he ever connect.

Guy was trying to hand Axel his. His drink and Axle just slaps it out of his hand. There's. There's Pru's favorite Philadelphia policeman, the man with the bully bat.

This guy's straight out of the 40s.

Yep.

With his leather jacket, too. Is he wearing his leather jacket?

I don't think he's wearing the jacket.

Oh, no, no, no. It's blues. This is not too cold in there tonight.

I guess not.

Jam packed with 1500 people.

There's a lot of body heat in there.

Yeah. I didn't know this match was in the ring.

Yeah. These aren't exactly technical superstars.

Yeah.

That really need to use the ECW brand to get over this is not.

A five star matte classic.

Acme's pants looks like they've been through the wash like a hundred times.

Looks like he slept in them three days in a row.

That too.

Like he had.

You know what I mean?

Like never get the flu when you're sick and you're like, ah, you don't change your pants.

Yeah.

Like days in. You're like.

Least. At least he put his hands up.

Was that a submarine? Was that nice?

That was my that was my watch. I'm sorry, Wing.

It does sound like. Like a submarine, though.

I can't help it that the women love me. At 10:30 at night.

Rick's getting a booty call.

I wish.

Well, that was whack. Jump. Fell onto a chair in the middle of the ring, face first. With a little help from Maxar on another double on the hook.

Oh.

Pedigree, pedigree. Onto the steel chair.

Yep.

Peewee over here. Looking like knockoff Rocky Maivia.

Yeah. Who will be debuting at the Survivor Series about a week from now.

Yeah.

Oh, no. Actually, wasn't it like the next night?

I think it was the next night. Yeah. Sort of been the 17th.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Here we go.

The Dudley Brawl.

Bubba with his lavender boots on.

Oh, yeah. Oh, half yellow. Yeah, yeah. So same guy. Who's he with? Is he with Bubba? And Devon's been teaming with Axel Ryan.

Yeah.

Fake Bubba Ray in the audience. Does a good job of looks just like him.

Yeah, he does. It's a great cosplay.

And just like that, Devon Dudley in control of this matchup now.

Wonder if we're going to see some big dick. Dudley, that is. I think another thing that we were talking about that JV kind of missed out on was fully formed. Joel Gner.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Wearing no shirt.

He started with the poetry last week, last episode.

What happened? The ring announcer, Joel Gartner.

Yeah.

They're saying that he's like. Like full form of what he be. What he eventually would be.

Yeah. He's wearing a sport coat with no shirt under it, but he has a bow tie around his neck still. And he. He's doing the like, dirty poet country that he's known for. Although he gets a lot worse or better, depending on how you want to look at it. Let. Let's just say he. He rhymes demon with something.

Oh, yeah, yeah. What else can you Ryan demon with other than the obvious one, I guess.

Screaming.

Screaming, Steaming.

Yeah.

Willie beaming. You ever see any given Sunday, Jamie? Not a while, but yeah, he's willing. Yeah. Willie beaming.

Great movie.

It keeps the ladies cold.

Cream and creaming.

They start screaming. Willie beaming.

Willie beaming. The eating demon.

All the girls is semen.

I was gonna say. Leaves the girls screaming as they swallow his vanilla flavored semen.

Vanilla flavored. Some offense early on, but Devon's taking over. Oh, I would take a big bump over the God rail. Laying flat on his back. Oh, the. That missed.

That's a stop sign. Yeah, I think it's like a poorly made one. Yeah, that was A stiff shot to the head, though.

Oh, yeah, I kept the crowd going again.

That'll give you a headache.

They're really going through the crowd.

Steon retaliates and Bubba Ray falls to his knees. It's a miracle he still cut. Bubba Ray charges. And this one is broken down into the street fight. We knew it would be.

Can't see a damn thing going on. Someone's got a mini guitar. Use that.

There you go.

Think they bought that at that little store around the corner?

I'm sure they did. Yeah, it's like a. Yeah, the. I forget if it was a thrift store, if it was like a dollar store, but either way, yeah, they did very well business.

Oh, big slap.

Have you guys ever seen either of them in real life?

Yep, yep, I've seen them at K. They're big dudes. Yeah. I, I was shocked at how big Bubba was.

Ah, yeah, yeah.

I didn't see him as Bubba Ray. I saw him as a Bully Ray.

Oh, yeah, yeah. No, I've never seen them actually wrestle, but I went to like a comic con. I think it was either last. It must have been last year. Yeah. And the two of them were there and I didn't, I didn't meet him or anything, but. But it was just like, holy, he's huge. And he's sitting down. Like, I can't even imagine how much bigger is when he's standing up.

All right.

Yeah. Then of course, I had Billy Gunn walk past me and I was like, he's huge too. He's tall.

He's like, he's like Hulk Hogan's height.

Oh, yeah, he's like Billy Gun. Yeah, he's like 6, 6, 6, 7. Like he's. He's not. And he's jacked.

That dude's a freak.

Yeah.

How old is Billy Gunn?

He's gotta be like 60.

Mid 50s to 60, right?

Yeah, he's got to be pushing 60.

Let's see. Billy Gun. Bill Gun is 60. Had a birthday a month ago. 60 year old daddy Ass.

Yep. Scissor me. Daddy Ass.

I love the hesitation of the.

Yeah.

Oh, only two. Those referee swishy pants.

Yeah. Extreme enforcer Paul Richard.

Yep.

With the. Now he's got black wristbands on instead of white this time.

And now it's Divine who can barely stand, making his way up the turnbuckles yet again.

There you go. Oh, kicked out. Oh, crowd seems pissed. They want more chair shots.

Yeah. Now he's choking them.

No choking, only hitting each other with steel chairs.

Yeah. Yeah. Isn't that amazing? It's completely legal to crack somebody in that head with a chair. But. But no. You get the five count for choking them.

They die in five seconds.

This relationship between two brothers have gone so sour.

It's not like they were brothers that grew up with each other.

Right?

Yeah.

Right. They didn't even know each other. Yeah.

They pretty sure that they don't share this. Both parents.

Yeah, pretty sure. They have zero childhood memories together.

Yeah.

Nice block.

Yeah. Oh. Oh.

Press star.

It's tough to do the skill.

Especially on legend difficulty.

Get the rope. Ms. Clothesline. That's over three avocado for the win.

Yep. That was like a one. Man 3D.

Oh, it's Joe Gartner.

Look at those titties.

Yeah. And you know, just when he first came in, which wasn't even that long ago, Right? Within the past. Yeah. He was thin.

Oh, yeah, he was very thin.

Now he's. He packed them on quick.

Yeah. Bob, strip.

It works for his gimmick, though. Be like, not in shape. Yeah, it does makes him more annoying.

Yep.

We all just saw our him up. Him up?

Yeah.

Hell yeah, him up.

In my expert opinion, Mr. Devon Dudley won the contest long before you executed your mediocre pinfall attempt. He won the contest on point.

Those boxing or something he talking about?

Once again, the winner of the contest. Mister.

If you wouldn't mind, could you.

Please move your massive body?

Fat boy. Oh, boy. It's got the look on Garnet's face. Looks like he's about to take a slap to the face and doesn't want to take it.

He's definitely waiting for it.

Oh, here comes Axel. All right. So, Devon. Oh, who's this?

That's Spike.

Got Axel. He's all over D. Look at Spike.

Spike, the House of Fire.

This kid loves the.

Yeah, a Barbie dream. House of Fire. He's small.

Girlfriend's bimbo. Remember that? Jb, Molly Holly. Spike and Molly Holly. And Austin just called her a bimbo.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Go for the bimbo. Love that line.

I thought you were referencing the other girlfriend that he had in wrestling.

Oh, who?

Yep. We. We'll get there when they get to tnn.

Okay. Oh, Big Dick's here.

Yeah, there's the Big Dick for you crew.

Been waiting. Waiting all day for a big dig. Dudley, Axel's about to shit his box of shorts. Those shots really look like boxes.

Yeah, they do.

Oh, Joel Garner. He's in for a surprise. He hasn't seen Big Dick yet, but he's about to explode. All over him too.

He's a.

Pork sword right in his mouth.

Beef stick. Yeah, Beef jerk. Oh. Oh, good slap. Right there. Like you smacked me in the air.

And what do the Dudleys have in mind for Joe Gardner?

Oh, air horn. Oh, Joe Gardner down in the mat. We're gonna. Oh.

I don't think JV has seen this before. No, this is something you miss, J.V.

What do we call this?

Wow.

He landed on.

Broke his head.

I came up with a name for the move. It's called the Dick Flip.

The Dick Flip, the one he did last episode, was much better. He didn't. He didn't almost paralyze himself.

Dick flip up. Oh, yeah. We're gonna dig. All right, so that's halfway through. So that brings us to our. Our first break. All right. Yeah, we have it set up. Looking at the notes. Yeah, that flew by.

What time are we restarting at?

Well, we're gonna start back at 41:35.

All right, because I got a little ahead. 4135.

Yeah, I gotta go back to it.

Me too. All right, so we'll take a little break. No music came up yet that we. No, we thought of. I mean, I think nothing that we're.

Willing to play Christmas in a house.

Oh, yeah. We gotta play Christmas and Hollis. We always do. 41.

34,135 wasn't good.

That's not right. No, 41.55.

Yeah, what was it?

41.

41.55.

You should have the static.

Yeah, I gotta change the note there anyway. All right, guys, well, we'll take a quick little break, take a listen to whatever we decide to play. Maybe It's Christmas and Hollis in this spot. Or we'll play that at the end. So then we'll figure it out. So take a listen and we'll be right back for the second half of part one of November to remember.

Outside the carolers start to sing. I can't describe the joy they bring. Cause joy is something they don't bring. My girlfriend is by my side. From the rough bar hanging sickles of ice. Their whiny voices, they're irritating. It's Christmas time again. So I stand with a dead smile on my face? Wondering how much of my time they'll waste. Oh, God, I hate these Satan's helpers. And then I guess I'm up. I lost a snap Because I grabbed a baseball bat and made them all run for shelter. It's Christmas time again. It's time to be nice to the people. You can't stand all year? I'm growing tired of all this Christmas cheer? You people scare me? Please stay away from my home? If you want to keep me down just just leave the pleas and then leave me alone? Well, I guess it's not cool that we got? Christmas came and arrested me? They had an unfair advantage? And even though the jail didn't have a tree? Christmas came a night early? Cause a guy named Bubba unwrapped my package? It's Christmas time again? It's time to be nice to the people? You can't stand all year? I'm growing tired of all this Christmas tree here? You people scare me? Please stay away from my home? If you don't want to get me down? Just leave the present and then leave me alone? I won't be home? I won't be home for Christmas I I won't be home? I won't be home these Christmas I won't be home? I won't be home with Christmas I won't be home? I won't be? I won't be home? I won't be home Christmas I won't be alone? I won't be home Christmas foreign.

We're back now for the second half of the first half of November to remember 1996. We've watched the first three matches, and now we're gonna watch the next two matches. Match number four, which is number one, contenders match for the ECW Tag Team Championship. Rob Van Dam teaming up with Sabu to take on the Eliminators. And then in our last match that we'll cover on this episode is match number five, Mikey Whipreck versus Chris Candido. All right, guys, so let's get back into it. I'll give ourselves a countdown. Three down to one. Say play. When I click play, we all click play. Timestamp is 41:55. 41:55. All right, three, two, one, play. And here comes the hell just happened. My just paused.

That's a bad man.

That's a bad man.

I got an error occurred. I'm gonna have to catch up to you guys.

Last I remember, he was growing on us, right?

Yeah, he's been getting better. All right, so I'm all screwed up now. So where are we? Where are we? Hold on, hold on. It's still not even loaded yet.

Okay.

All right, you guys call the action. I'll look at a black screen.

All right, so we've got as. As called by Joel Gartner. David Striptease. Announcing the the teams from the combat zone.

Combat zone.

For those of you who don't know. The combat zone in Boston is where all the. The drugs and the prostitutes used to be. Yeah. Think Time Square in the 80s.

Michigan.

You. You.

I think it's kind of funny that Sabu's wearing purple pants. And the Eliminators both have purple on too.

Yeah, it looks like he's on their team.

Yeah. He's even got a purple on his head. His headdress thing. I don't know what. I'm not trying to be insensitive, but it looks purple. Like a lavender. Yeah.

What are those called?

I really don't know. And that's what I'm saying. I'm not trying to be insensitive. I really don't know. No, no, no. The. The headdress thing, like, the.

Differences aside as well.

Because it's not a turban.

It's not a turban. She looking it up.

Okay.

Shamaj a Shamaj.

Okay.

S H E M A G H. Come on.

As a wrestling fan, I can tell you I can't wait for this matchup to start.

I think. No. All right, so what time do you guys go?

44, 23. 24, 25. Yep.

Tell me when you're at. 44. 35.

34, 35 right now.

All right. All right, so the back both standing on their feet.

Yep.

Taboos circling.

Yep.

All right, Sizing up Saturn.

Yep. Goes for a single leg.

Missed face with planted.

Now Saturn's got Arar.

Like, I got him.

See, Joey. Thank you.

Considering we only have. Yeah. Considering we only have two matches. So we're in. We're in for a long one.

Y.

Only two matches this half.

We only have two matches in this half. Yeah, this.

This one's gonna be a probably. I mean, I don't. But this one will probably be a Longer 1. Mikey versus Chris Candido. Oh, yeah. This should be a good one.

Kind of like a dream match scenario.

Oh, yeah, yeah. And like you said, the. The winner of this match has a match later on, which we'll see next episode. Right against this. They both go for drop kicks.

That's cool.

Yeah.

Look at a little contest going on here.

I. I like when they do like that, you know, like to start off, it's like a feeling out process and they. They kind of establish, you know, how. How the match is gonna go.

It's definitely good to do here because of, like, how the first three matches were. Right?

Yeah. It's all part of the storytelling.

All right, here comes rvd Van Damme.

Wearing his brick wall tights.

I like, I like those.

Yeah, sales look cool.

They look a lot better than some of the later ones he wears. Looks like you go from the mall.

Yeah, we got. What's hot? Airbrushed sights.

Airbrushed. Yeah, yeah.

Oh, airbrush.

I mean, those ones probably are airbrushed too, but they, they don't look bad. Bad.

Yeah. That one looks well done.

Yeah, yeah.

Cronus at some height, almost broke, probably in his neck.

Beautiful suplex.

Yeah. You know you're. You know you're in for a long match when they do that feeling out process in the beginning. Right. They know they need to kill some time.

Yeah, this, this match is. They're, they're slow and deliberate, which is, which is fine because you know that it's going to build to. To a good ending.

Who the. This is constantly screaming. Hear him?

Yeah, he's annoying.

Yeah, yeah.

Like rip the head off. Shut up.

Shut up.

You get it, you're into it, but I'll read these the whole effing show. All right, so now we got split action going on here, which, yeah, is annoying to me. I want to see what's going on in the ring. Focus on that. There's going on that we can't even see.

Right.

Beautifully executed power slam.

That was a nice power slam.

Yeah, that was clean.

That was a shitty chair shot.

Horrible. Cronus was probably figuring, ah, the camera is on the action in the ring, right.

He's gonna. I'm gonna half ass it because they're not really filming us.

The fans are focused on what's on the outside.

Everybody's looking the rink. Yeah. We don't, we don't come to ECW to watch a wrestling match at in the ring. Oh, one of those plastic chest.

Yep. Pile driver.

Oh, that was scary. Oh, man, that could have went bad.

Yeah.

Rolling leg drop. There's a name for that, right?

No, when he does the, the front roll and then does like a Senton, that's rolling Thunder. But.

Oh, yeah, not for the, like, not that. That's what I was thinking. Rolling Thunder.

Yeah, yeah. That's one of the signature RV spots.

Kick right to the face.

You're not your chance. Not getting over, buddy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Stop. Dude.

There were people doing that when I was in Providence. It was so annoying. The people right on the side of us.

Oh, man, I hate that too.

And they were such corny chants like, guess we're not in a.

In a.

In a. That kind of area.

Right. If you get, if you're going to. If you want to start a Chant. Make sure it's worthwhile. Not a shitty chant.

Oh, he just threw his steel chair.

He did not give up.

Bounce back and he caught it. All right, here we go. Set up the chair. Okay. Leg drop off the top. Oh, that kind of seemed unnecessary. What did I call the Ass buster?

No, the Arabian Face Buster.

No, I know, but I think I called it the Arabian Ass Bustle Month.

Yeah, I think that's when he did it off the top rope. You did.

The camel hop?

The camel hop. Jesus.

Yeah. They love just bouncing on the rope to do a leg drop. Oh, like drop. Imagine Hulk Hogan doing a bouncing leg drop.

Hey, brother.

Oh, all right. Gut buster.

It's gotta suck. Yeah, he wants that. There's no way you can really fake that or take that move.

No.

Yeah, yeah, that's just going on.

It's got to be one of those things that you have to like. It has to land a specific part of your body or else it really is gonna suck and you're gonna pee blood for about a week.

That was a good spot from Saturn and Cronus. Tag team specialist. Saturn's not in good health right now, right?

What, currently? Or you mean like currently currently?

I saw.

Yeah, I think he's got some issues. I think he's got like some mental health stuff going on. I don't know about. I don't know about, like physical, you know, like having cancer or something. But. But yeah, he's not. He's not doing good as far as I know.

I thought he had like a GoFundMe or something.

He might. Yeah, I mean, he's doing. He's doing better than Cronus.

He's announced for WrestleCon 2024. Yeah.

What is the high cross body on band?

What the was that? Yeah, I was just gonna say he just basically face planted on the apron.

Where the shading come from in the crowd.

Just one of those things were like, then, oh. Oh, the. The camera's not focusing on it, and so the guy just comes flying from out of frame and.

Yeah, that's what was funny about it.

Yeah.

Oh, he almost missed. He almost didn't even make it. The. It's almost like an air. Airball. Yeah, airball. Sabu.

Crowd'S loving Sabu, though.

Yeah.

Which is part of the reason why Taz is so pissed off at Sabu. As noted, the Sabu no showed to go work for Japan, was fired. Everybody Sabo, you know, they were all against him. And then he comes back and now they love him.

Yeah, it's good. Good grape. That he has.

Yeah, yeah, it's. It's a real gripe. That's the thing. Like, it's not. It's not a made up wrestling gripe.

That's how he feels personally about the situation.

Right. It's, you know, personal issues equals money or draws money.

What's that motto?

What is it?

It's business. Not. Yeah, it's not personal.

I mean, I know Sabu and Taz. Well, Taboo and Taz in real life did not like each other. It's not just a made up thing. Like, they legit did not like each other.

Yeah, if I was Taz, I would be pissed. I just.

Yeah.

Had this great character built over the last year. And here comes Sabu again to take my limelight space.

Flying Corona straw.

Wow, nice. Crowd's loving this. This is good. Yeah, a lot of action.

That's what I said.

Joey, he's flying Cronus drop. Is that what it is?

Yep.

What are you saying?

Yep. That dude is 300 pounds and he just, he just did a back handspring and then no hands back flipped over the top rope.

Crazy what he can do. Oh, well, they just saved La Van Dam.

Oh, yeah.

Landed on his head. Sabu's going to do it. So, hey, let's all stand with each other. There it is. Oh, no, he hit his.

You know, he hit his mouth on the guard rail.

He definitely hit it. Yep. Wow, that was up. It's like, ah, I gotta get to my next jump. I can't pitch about this. I gotta go get the table.

Know in the, in the future there will be a time that Sabo does something very similar. Hits his jaw and breaks his jaw like that and ends up having to tape the out of it to finish the match.

Oh, God.

Yeah, but.

Is it with like medical tape?

Yep, yep. He basically wraps medical tape around his jaw to kind of keep it shut.

Because he dislocated it or broke it.

I, I don't. I. If he dislocated it, I think he'd just pop it back into place. I'm pretty sure he breaks it or like cracks it, you know?

When is that? About?

98.

98.

Yep. I know, I know the match that it's against.

Okay, but it's against the Sandman.

It's against Sandman. Yep. And then there's also House Party 98. Yeah, it is House Party 98. Stairway to hell.

Yeah. Broken jaw.

Y.

Damn.

Northern Light Suplex. No. Well.

Oh, Whoever sets up the table goes through it.

Yeah, he went through that. Knees first too. I can't feel good.

Choking John Cronus with his boot.

SAP was right back up. Like. I'm not gonna hold it. You. Why would he hold it?

Yeah.

Sapus throws the chair at him and then put. Then places. Here, hold this. It's gonna hit you in a second. Sometimes the just doesn't make sense. Oh, nice. Good spot. Splash and leg drop in unison. Saturn's got blood.

First blood of the show. At least that we've seen.

Headbutt with a bloody head. Oh, elbow. The great elbow drop.

That amazing elbow drop. Yeah.

Just flies in the.

You're welcome.

Like, better than Macho Mans.

It really. No, it really. That's like CM Punk level, but I think better.

Macho Man's size is also what kind of made it look so good too.

Yeah.

For such like a finesse looking move.

Yep.

Right.

Yeah. It definitely looks more impactful with Macho Man.

No, for sure.

That was creative. Drop kick using the corner. I love how all of a sudden they like go back to their corners.

Yeah.

No, tag me in.

No, let's do. Yeah, now let's tag.

Yeah, let's. Let's play by the rules now. Just spent like the last 10 minutes doing whatever the you wanted.

Y br in the crowd.

Oh, man, I want a chair. So dangerous to throw the chair.

It is.

You're basically giving up all control.

Yeah.

You throw it.

Yeah. And they're not even trying to be precise about it. They just kind of whipping it so it could. You could catch the edge of the chair.

Yeah, the part where like the legs connect to the seat too. That little sharp piece of metal.

Right.

Little knee drop kick.

That's a clever. That's a clever move.

Still got the. The half crab here.

Yep.

I hate this move.

The half crab. Yeah.

Yeah, but it makes sense that he did the drop kick and then he targets the knee and puts. Yeah, yeah, but I get. I get what you're saying, that it is kind of a stupid move.

The drop kick was brilliant.

Yeah.

Oh, jeez. That was slow motion.

Yeah.

Needed to speed up to get to that spot, otherwise I would have flopped. Crowd's getting tired.

Yeah. They're not as rabid as they were.

All right, Corona setting up Rob Van Dam for. What the is that?

Oh, I don't even know what to call that. That's a northern light suplex. But I don't know what Cronus did. I don't know. That was like a turning centon. Flipping senton or something.

Yeah.

Slipped.

Been really showing signs of exhaustion. Saturn caught the second turnbuckle But Taboo drops the leg. Kronus and Taboo, everyone picked out. Spin kick by Van Damme.

Not his best spin kick.

No. Oh, shitty body slam too.

It's like his leg just flopped into his chest.

Oh, the time limit draw.

Ah, yeah, well, I think it was just starting to really, really pick up.

Yeah. Anyway, where's the indication that the time limit was about to come up, though? You know, Joey didn't mention. I don't think they mentioned that this. There was a time limit. Maybe in the beginning when I wasn't really paying attention because I didn't have the video. But Joey never came back and said, oh, it was only five minutes.

Oh, there's cut. Here's Todd.

All right, so they're out of time. I'm gonna draw right now. But Todd's.

He's saying five more minutes.

Yeah, five more.

Minutes.

Happy about that?

Then just get rid of the time limit. Just get rid of it.

Right.

Sanction it just to remove it.

Right. Get rid of it. Let the, Let there be a winner.

Yeah.

Well, they're not going to get rid of it then. There has to be a decisive winner. Maybe that's not what they want to do.

Right. Well, the crowd got excited when the bell rang. They started chanting three way dance.

Right. Both teams won, so they would be going on to face the gangsters. Yeah, Three way. Yeah, I mean, we know what happens basically, but.

Oh, yeah.

So just mention it now while we're on the topic of it. This is all a waste of time. Time.

Yep.

Because what they wanted to get to, they could have just gotten to. They want to get to the three way dance, but they're making it be an extra 10 minutes.

Do you think it was a botch to call like the, the wrestlers lost track of time?

No, no, I, I just think the booking is shitty because they want to have the three way dance. They could have just ended it in a draw right there instead of having overtime.

Right.

And it's going to end in a draw anyway, Is that what you're saying?

Right?

Yeah, yeah.

A. Yeah, that's dumb. I thought we were going to get a, a winner here.

No.

Oh. Just going to get more spots and I, I like this match, but, but that's the one thing about this match that this goes on. Oh, wow. That was, that was different. That was like.

Intending to do. Oh, I think he was intending to do a Frankenstein or a Hurricane Rana, whatever you want to call it.

Yep. Yeah. It was set up like a doomsday device and he was going to do a Hurricane Rana off of Randam's shoulders didn't really work that way. Ended up looking like a bile driver or something.

Oh, yeah, like a. Like a rocker dropper.

Yeah, rocker dropper. Yeah. I love that. Kick to the head and then kick to the back of the head and then a super kick.

Oh, yeah.

Good eliminated spot. And a lot of kicks in this match.

A lot of kicks and a lot of flips. I was gonna say jumps off the the ropes.

You don't usually see someone miss a frog splash like that.

No.

Guy just gets up and walks on the room. Look like a glitch in a game.

Yeah, like the computer character just doing something random.

It's like the Samoa Joe spa.

Everyone's just missing big spots here.

Yep.

All right. Is Van Dam gonna hit? Oh, Saturn's moving so. Oh, a nutshot. Is that a nutshot?

I think so.

Oh, bomb stumbling. Power bomb more like. It was not. No running power bomb.

No.

Oh, yep. Another miss. And Saturn's Johnny on the spot with his chair. Oh, that hurt.

Not only not only did he miss and land on his legs, but he also caught the chair.

Yeah, I hit some of that chair. He was way off on that.

Yep.

That. That was not five minutes.

That was not. No.

That was like two minutes.

Yeah.

You kidding me? Ah, I should have checked the time when it started. All right, I'll keep track of the next. Yeah, overtime.

Hey, don't even with. Try it. We turned too far not to get them belts back. Five more minutes.

This is.

Come on.

You agree? You agree? Of course.

They all want to fight.

All right, well, they want to win.

109.41. Okay, so 150. 114. 41 would be five minutes.

114. Yeah.

Let's track it at 41, but whatever.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Almost 115.

Okay, let's see how little. Little. This is definitely the last. That first round. That was overtime. This is not a tornado match. Can't even stop the match off right. Oh, my God. Sabu plunge. It just flies into the crowd, basically. Yeah, you just like, totally time that. Wrong timing's not even the actual word I'm looking for, but up. Oh, my God. That was good. I'm surprised he didn't up there.

He might have. You kind of couldn't see because of the crowd.

Here comes Saturn with an elbow drop to Sabu.

Oh, I'd like knee drop.

Knee drop, knee drop. You all right? What are they? Chin? I love dick. What they say.

It does kind of sound like they're saying I heart dick. Oh, that was a nice frankensteiner.

Come on, Cronus. More effort on that pin, buddy. These guys are exhausted.

Oh yeah.

Been almost three minutes.

Damn.

As they should be. The is going on here. Oh, they both hurt their partners. What the was that? That was dumb.

Yeah, that wasn't. That doesn't look right.

Like what were they trying to do? Were they trying to land on their opponent that's on the mat?

I think so.

They both did it at the same time. So they collided in the air.

Three minutes.

Three minutes.

Three minutes and a couple seconds. Unless they're saying that that the ref counted to 10. That was not five minutes.

Crowd really wants that three way dance.

Yeah.

All right, Todd.

Listen.

We promised these people tonight that the winners of this match would face the gangsters for the title tonight. It's pretty obvious looking at these two teams. You can't call either one of them losers tonight.

Eliminate. I see, I see the payoffs here.

Yeah, that's what the crowd wants.

It's just pretty bad acting too. Now they're like all right, yeah.

But yeah, they could have done this six minutes ago.

Oh yeah, yeah.

You know, unnecessary because how close it was. They ring the bell at three minutes.

It. Exactly. It hasn't even been five minutes.

Oh yeah.

Saying like to get to the point they wanted to make that three way match. They could have already done it and then not risk those guys getting hurt again.

Right.

You know, in those six minutes that they had to just around.

And there were some tough spots there too.

Right. All right, here we go. We got strutting Chris Candida over here. Back in action.

Doing the Brock bounce back and forth.

Yeah. Some dude giving the camera a middle finger. Constantly wearing a tad shirt. There's Mikey with a venom shirt. Yeah, Liked it.

Yeah, that's a pretty decent shirt. He's not quite as swole as as he will end up, but yeah, he still looks good. Yeah.

Black, not powder blue, not golden red. Chris Candido himself is back. Power elbow. Tie up tight headlock to a hammer lock.

So we should get a more standard wrestling match here.

Yeah, this should be a good pairing. Is probably going to get to show off a lot lot of his power here.

Yep.

Yes.

Yeah, go ahead.

Well muscled, five foot eight.

Oh, get the microphone. Huh? The accent.

Hall of fame.

Okay.

So shut the hell up.

Wrestle here, wrestle here. Stop talking about Sunny.

Right. Stop. Not even here.

More heat.

But he probably. That probably was legit too. He was probably pissed.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Definitely.

It's not about Sunny.

Anymore.

You're right. She's not even here.

Off.

Yeah. Cuz Survivor Series the next night was at Madison Square Garden.

Yeah, they did the hall of Fame on the Saturday.

Yeah, they used to do it with.

Survivor series instead of WrestleMania.

Yep.

Mikey is dressed like he's auditioning for the Ex.

Catches. Catch can.

Nice uppercut, Mikey being hammered.

Cloudy. That chanting.

Yeah, I was just saying how the crowd's chanting, Cloudy.

Nice. I love that suplex.

Yeah, it's very underrated. You don't see too many people doing it anymore.

Chad Gable.

Yeah.

Thank you.

That was our darkness Match after smackdown after smackdown. Yeah.

Who was it? The Alpha Academy?

No, it was like Gable against La Knight, I think, or something.

Oh, the crowd love La Knight.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was probably the most over guy besides Punk.

Oh, wow.

Was Punk there, gv.

Yeah.

Yep. Nice, nice.

Going up top.

Good thing Smackdown was that weekend, not the next week.

Yeah.

Traffic was bad enough just for that. Yeah.

I have no interest. I'm avoiding Providence Y for life at this point.

I'm done going there because they'll probably.

Never get to like. Three months.

Yeah, okay. Right, right.

The whole story on that's nuts too.

Yeah. Considering the. The construction company that normally does in the roads now is mysteriously out of business.

Well. And then like, it was like a new engineer, like a young kid that found the mistake.

Oh, yeah.

And like, he's like, hey, there's this big crack here. And then a week later we had that big windstorm, like. Yeah, the bridge was moving, like. Yeah, we gotta shut this thing.

Yeah.

You told yourself.

Meanwhile, nobody. Nobody that's listening has any clue what we're talking about.

Yeah, yeah, sorry.

That's all right.

Yeah. Oh, no, I. Please.

I mean, it's in the news.

Yeah. I just don't.

Not just around here. I was telling you before, the guys from ovp, they knew about and they live in New Jersey.

True.

It's. It's like national news, is it?

Oh, okay.

Yeah, national. Ish.

Gotcha.

Yeah. Right. National enough where it made a story. But it's not something that's just being covered every day.

Right, right.

You know, a little short story. Oh, this is happening here. Shut up, dude. Chan sucks. Suicide blonde chant. The out of here. Suicide blonde. Suicide blonde. The gonna chant that.

That.

Yeah, that's it. I think it's the. That pegged the finger at the camera in the front row.

You surprised?

I bet those original ECW fans must have got annoyed with some of the people that came in and tried to like, Take over the show.

Oh, I'm g. I can guarantee that happened.

Who the this guy think is. Shut the down? Shut up. Sad to see that we don't have the crackhead guy around anymore, though. Yeah, he just had his little brief stint and nine just in 95, right?

Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if he made it to 96.

Escape or did he.

Oh, what the. Oh, that was a botch. Mikey tried to roll up, but didn't work. You drive me. What he say? Drive me nuts. That's what he.

Frustration.

Just choking away at m. Trying to buy time.

Yep.

They basically have to redo that spot. There we go.

Dr. Bomb.

File driver. Coming up.

Another power bomb.

Oh, nope.

Reversals.

Good reversal, but it looked scary. Yeah.

Back body drop.

Mikey's getting a lot of offense in this.

Yeah, he is going up to the top. You can do a cross body. Oh, he's not doing anything. That looks like a super. Super plex on the right is here.

Oh, no. He's going for super Hurricane Rona.

Flying Corona.

Yeah.

Oh, he's doing the skip push ups. What the.

Then somebody's trying to chant. What the. Like.

Yeah.

Scooping a slam with authority.

Oh, he almost fell off the apron.

I know. It looks like he was gonna fly out of the ring going for a headbutt.

Yep.

I missed the comedic cell.

Yep. Strong.

Only two. Some weird drop kick like he's all the way on the other side of the ring. What are you doing?

Can't jump that far, buddy. See Shane McMahon.

Yeah. Whoa.

That was to the face.

It was like a. A flying crossbody with. From the. With the back instead of the chest drop. Kicked. There we go. Cover One, two, Swinging ddt like that. That's a good spot.

Didn't hook the leg. You're not gonna pin somebody like Chris Candido without hook.

So there was a show the day before this. On November 15th at Plymouth Meeting, Pennsylvania. Mikey Whitbrick defeated the Dirt Bike Kid. Yeah. Candido defeated Spike Dudley. Rob Van Dam defeated Kid Cash. Exel Rotten in the Bad Crew. Defeated. Defeated Rick Rage and Hack Myers and Devon Devin Storm. Devon Dudley defeated Bubba Ray Dudley. Oh. Oh, my God.

Damn.

Dead. Like he's dead.

That's it. He's dead.

Oh, my God. That was so close to the freaking map. From like.

That was a gorgeous catch, though. Like, Candido caught him and.

Yeah.

Held like he didn't. He didn't even stumble that much.

Mikey's dead there. He's up, though. Boom. To the robes.

Now Candido's balls are Dead.

A lot of nuts getting up tonight.

Yeah.

Oh, this is it.

Power bomb.

Suicide Blonde.

Bombshell.

Blonde bomb. Yeah. That's it. One, two, three. Also quick eliminators defeated J.T. smith, little Guido. TV champion Shane Douglas defeated Luis Mauley. Tommy Dreamer, the Sandman. Team Love defeated Raven. And Stevie Sabu beat two Cold Scorpio and two Cold Scorpio's last match in ECW before being Flash Funk two days later.

He's so fun, funky.

Actually, no, that's not his last match. Is his last match on this show?

Yes, it is.

Okay. Yeah. Pretty sure one of his last.

I know. I know how they do his last match. So.

Yeah, it's gonna be. It's gonna be here then. Listen to Chris. Can.

You work with a guy with a broken neck, a broken back? I spent the last two years carrying pieces of shit. But, Mikey, man, you did the same fucking thing yourself tonight.

Showing a little respect.

Yeah, and you carried me in this match. Those. Chris Candido, Baby Face. What's going on here?

Yeah, I don't know.

This is a weird turn here. I'm gonna call it a turn, but you know what I mean? Like, not. They definitely kind of made it look like he was gonna be a kill.

Yeah. Comes off as a hill. He's swearing all the time. Time yelling at the ref.

He gets on the. The microphones like, she's not here. They made her go to the hall of Fame right up and let me. Let me wrestle.

Well, that's him just being really pissed, like you said.

Yeah, no, but it comes off as being Heelish, you know, because.

All right, that concludes part one. And it even says that here in the VHS end of part one. All right, so that wraps things up for us with part one of November to Remember. And we'll be back in two weeks with the second part. But before that, let's wrap things up. All right, so like I said, we'll be back in two weeks with the second part of November. To remember 96, check out our podcast online wrestling cast covering Stunning Steve and the Hollywood Blondes. Please check those out. And please check out the whole archive of episodes that we have available covering the entire career of Stone Cold Steve Austin. Give us a follow on X Twitter. Call me Mike Pro at MPRU83. Follow JV @ John Van Damage. All Rick BB @ LeoWay85. And again, follow us at Extreme Cast. At Extreme Cast. That was fun, guys. Great to have JV back with us again. And we'll be looking forward to the next one, you guys have any, anything to say before we head on out of here?

Nope, I got nothing. That was a good show. Well, yeah, so far it's been good.

Yeah, so far so good.

Matches were good.

Yeah, even the, even the, the first three that were kind of eh, weren't. They weren't the worst that we've seen.

Actually before we get out of here, let's, let's just run down the, those five matches and see what you guys think. Dave Meltzer rated them. All right, so first match, Stevie Richards pin David Tyler Morton, Jericho, Kid Cash only. What do you think? You got a fur rating?

What do you give?

Tell me what you, what you give it and then we'll see what he thought.

Personally, I'd give it a three.

Okay, Javi, what'd you think of that? I'm saying like, like the whole segment in the match, I'd say they had like three stars.

It was an average segment.

Yeah, yeah, I'd give it three stars as well. Mainly because the, the bwo.

Oh yeah.

The debut of bwl and then the match itself wasn't that bad. You know, good action in the ring. So. Yeah, I'll be with you guys. 3. What do you think? Melts? He gave it.

I'm. I'm gonna say two.

Yeah, close a one and a two and a half.

One and a quarter wasn't that bad, dude.

No, no, the matches, the match itself, not counting the, the Gaga before, but the match itself was at least two.

Yeah, right. And he's probably just reading the in ring action.

Yeah.

Way better than one and a quarter.

Oh yeah.

Oh, wrong there man. Axel Rotten pinning hack Myers in 4 minutes 25 seconds with double arm DDT on a chair. That's probably the, my least favorite of the entire show.

Yeah, I'd give that like one and three quarters. Yeah, it was inoffensive, but it was also not great, you know.

Right. And we've seen it already. Yeah, like numerous times. Yeah, I'd give it a. Yeah, one and a half I guess. One and a half. Jv, what do you think?

I would say one and a half too.

You didn't even give it a full star. He gave it a quarter of a star, quarter of a second.

It wasn't that bad.

Almost a dud. Yeah, it's only 4 minutes and 25 seconds.

You can't mood watching this.

Yeah, right.

Part of the, part of the problem also with, with the ratings for that is at this point I'm pretty sure he's in California.

So he went to this one.

Did He. Okay, because I was gonna say, normally it's. He's going off of people who were there giving him reports, so he didn't necessarily see it, but if he actually went to this one, yeah, he was probably in a pissed off mood.

That's what he says. I left the ECW arena with the same feeling I have at every show but one that I've attended from the promotion. It was a good show. The wrestlers worked very hard, A lot of thought was put into the storylines, and the wrestling itself is incredibly overrated in some circles. It's great independent level wrestling. And that's a compliment because it's an independent level promotion.

Oh, damn. Right for the.

Right for the backhanded compliment, you're right.

But a few weeks back, I attended a local indie show at a gym in Hayward, California. I can't say there was much of a difference overall when it came to the work rate between the two shows. Guys take more risk than WWF WCW guys, and a few of them are better. But overall the level of work isn't at major league level. The local indie guys worked as hard as they could, took some risk and threw some through some moves. Their matches, by and large, built better and had more psychology overall. The real green guys on the Hayward in the were worlds away from being even the worst wrestler in ecw. Yeah. Geez. It's like I went to the show. Let me just. On ECW right now.

Yeah.

But the guys with a little experience weren't that far off. Robert Thompson and Steve Rosanio worked a more solid match than anything at November to remember, with the exception of the legend Terry Funk. Or a wrestler with world class potential like Chris Candido.

What was that guy's.

Steve Rozono Risono. Yeah.

Steve Rozzono. Steve Rosano ends up in xpw. Oh, that's crazy. I didn't. I. Wow. I didn't. That's cool. Like, I didn't think he was ever in the observer before he was an xpw. Yeah.

And so I guess he had a hell of a match.

Who was the other guy that.

Robert. Robert Thompson.

Robert Thompson.

Okay.

Robert Thompson.

Yeah.

I mean that's just a very generic name.

Yeah. Oh.

But anyway, sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt.

All right. ECW had more blood, more broken tables, more low blows, more Topaz, more risks, and God knows tons better storylines. But in doing so many spots with high margins of error, I also grown 10 times as much at the ECW arena over missed spots than I did at the local show. Some of those guys had only had five matches under their belt. Granted, you'll see as many wild moves in the WWF or even WCW All Japan or New Japan match as Sabu versus Sabu and Ravi. Never the Eliminators. But top guys in that promotion will never miss as many spots as they did as well. And they'll control the crowd a lot better. So he's like this random indie in Hayward, California. He's saying it's better than ecw. Oh, man. So yeah, he was there. Yeah. He's probably in a bad mood on it.

Yeah.

Right then the last two match, last few matches, Bubba Ray and D Von. 10 minutes and 20 seconds. Do you guys give it. I'll go. I'll go three on it.

Yeah, I'll give it three.

I would say three stars too.

What do you guys think? He gave it.

He probably gave it two and a quarter.

Gave a half a star.

Half a star.

Wow.

This guy is nuts.

All right. Eliminators versus Sabu and Randam. That match is solid. I don't really like the others.

I would get paid to on their matches.

Maybe. I mean, maybe. Yeah, maybe he's just down on it.

Four.

Yeah, I'd give it four. That's what I thought. Four. Even though I don't like the other. David, what do you think of the tag match?

Three and three quarters.

And three quarters. Okay.

Yeah, that's not bad.

What do you think?

Just a stipulation. And at the end, with your ongoing.

Yeah, yeah, that's a good point.

Yeah. I don't know. See, that's the thing is, like, originally my first thought was like, oh, he probably gave it like four. Four and three quarter stars. He's probably like, sucking their dicks, you know, and how great it was. But then I'm like, well, maybe he's gonna on it. Because that ending was so stupid that he's gonna be like, that ruined it. It's one star. You know, I'm gonna. I'm gonna stick with my original and say he probably is like. He probably thought it was like the best thing ever.

All right. He gave it three stars.

O.

So most people like the match, but there were too many missed spots. Particularly Sabu seemed to be sloppy more often than not. Then the time shaving in the overtime came off bad, Particularly the second one.

Ah, he noticed.

Yep. All right, final match for part one. Chris Candido, Mikey Whipwreck. What do you guys think? I'm giving it a solid three.

I think I'm gonna give it a three. Three and a quarter.

Yeah, I'll give it three and a quarter.

All right. What do you think Meltzer thinks.

Didn'T happen? Zero.

No, I'm gonna say he probably gave it a two.

Okay. He. He gave it two and three quarters.

Oh, wow.

Two and three quarters out from that point, though, it looks like his high ratings. No, never mind. I'm wrong. Two of the three matches that are highly rated.

Yeah.

So. All right, we'll get to that next time.

Yep.

All right, thanks, guys, for joining us here for part one of November to remember 96. And guys, we're good.

Yeah. Good.

Yeah.

All right, we'll see you guys in two weeks. So long.

See you.

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