PPV Special #2 - ECW Hardcore Heaven '97: 08/17/97
PPV Special #2 - Hardcore Heaven '97
Transcript
It's a new year stuff. Oh my God.
Speaker B:I travel with this guy.
Speaker C:I've trained with them, I've broken bread with them and I choked them out.
Speaker B:The final battle between Raven and Tommy Dreamer. You did your job and ran the fuckers off.
Speaker A:Look at that.
Speaker B:From the twisted steel section of Dudleyville. Extreme Championship Wrestling has been thrown into disarray. This, my friends, is E C W.
Speaker C:Welcome to the extreme ECW live cast. And we are back with ECW pay per view special number two. It's hardcore heaven 1997 from August 17th, 1997. I'm Mike Prue along with JV and Rick Beebe. Guys, welcome back. It's finally time for hardcore heaven 97. We hope.
Speaker D:I know.
Speaker E:Yeah, right again, some been a process.
Speaker D:That's the understatement of the year.
Speaker C:Well, thanks to Skype as well.
Speaker D:Thanks Microsoft.
Speaker C:Yeah, well also thanks Bill Gates.
Speaker E:I hated that guy for another reason. I hate Bill Gates.
Speaker D:Yeah,
Speaker C:so we already recorded most of this and it didn't end up saving. We didn't get to record it. So it threw us off for a couple weeks know. And then the. The following week we tried again but didn't work out. So we. We put out that little pre show I guess we call it. It was with Rick and I, we were waiting for jv, but jv, he didn't show up.
Speaker E:So yeah, I up.
Speaker C:We got here another week and then now we're into May. So now we couldn't, definitely couldn't use Skype anymore. So you know, for the past 45 minutes or so, maybe even longer at this point we've been figuring out what we're gonna use so we have something new that we're using and hopefully this works out. And it already sounds better. At least that's what we. We think already. So hopefully it works out and we'll. We'll use this. Keep banging out these episodes. And it's got a sound, right? It has a soundboard. And we're gonna play around with that. We're gonna get some clips. We're gonna over. We're gonna overdo it too and get annoying. Yeah. Oh man. All right. That's gonna be a lot of fun. All right, so we don't want to waste too much time because you know, we already watched half of it. So we're actually. We're gonna do it a little differently this time. We're not gonna watch along to what we already watched that. So we're just gonna cover it. We're gonna cover it. Like if you any of you listen to Bottom Line Wrestling Cast. I'm going to cover it like we do there. I'm just going to break down the match and go right through it. So we'll do that for what we watched, which was the first four matches and then we'll get right into the the second half, which is only two matches, but it's about an hour and 20 minutes of a watch along. So we'll do that. All right, but before we do that, quick little plugs. Follow us on X at ExtremeCast. Follow me Mike Pro at NPRU83. Follow JV at John Van Damage and follow Rick BB at Leo Y85. Also check out JV and I on the Bottom Line Wrestling cast, the career of Stone Cold Steve Austin and. And follow us there at Bottom Line Cast. All right, so with that said, and get right into the coverage of ECW Hardcore Heaven 97 Pay Per View, August 17, 1997 from Fort Lauderdale, Florida. And also, just a little disclaimer. And I'm already failing it because I'm talking so much and I haven't talked in a while. And you know, I was in the ER today, as you guys know, I was in the for chest. Chest pains. And yeah, so I'm starting to kind of feel it with all the talking with my chest, but I'll try to get through.
Speaker D:Coming at us live live from the hospital room. No.
Speaker C:All right, so the show kicks off
Speaker D:like Lance is live from a chopper.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, we'll see that. Which is crazy. But anyway, we kick off with Joey Styles. Joey Styles is in the ring, he's opening up the show. He hypes up the crowd in Fort Lauderdale and he begins to run down the card. But then Rick Rude's music hits and he comes out to the ring and the crowd is chanting, you sold out, you sold out. And again, Rick, jv, if you have anything to chime in with, just jump right in.
Speaker D:Well, let me just, let me just jump in then just so we can cover this because we definitely covered this when we tried to record first time. The arena is very badly lit, so we're not watching it along. But when we do, if anybody decides to watch with us, you'll note that the arena is not as bright as the ECW arena, even just normally not even talking how bright it was. Like at Barely Legal, this is a very dimly lit to the point of when I forget what match it is. But one of them, they go outside and you can barely see what the hell they're doing because there's just no lights on the outside. The lighting truss is making shadows and it's just, it's not good. And the way that they have the arena set up like Madison Square Garden too, like we noted, with the entrance directly in the middle across from the
Speaker C:hard cam, which can be distracting when you have random people just standing there.
Speaker D:Yeah, like the security guards.
Speaker C:Right. Also, the, the audio kind of sucks too, which obviously was a problem on the pay per view because the audio went out. But also it's a problem in general because the crowd just seems like they're not talking or chanting. And you can hear some chants when they're really loud, but for the most part they sound silent for most of the show. Yeah, this is just bad production overall. All right, so Joey Styles points out that Rick Rude can obviously kick his ass, but he wants to tell him not only did you turn your back on ecw, but you hired yourself out to a male boy toy dancer from another organization, obviously talking about HVK there. So Joey Styles is that Rude can do what he wants, but Joey's not going to be part of this and stand there and interview him. So Joey leaves the ring, takes the mic. He says, obviously, Styles, you've mistaken me for somebody that gives a crap what you think. Then Rude goes on to tell all the the fat out of shape Lauderdale losers to shut their lips so he can introduce the next ECW World TV champion. No gimmicks needed. Chris Candido. So Candido heads to the ring and back in black. And like Rick was just saying, we get the Madison Square guy, Madison Square Garden style entrance there. And then immediately we have Todd Gordon coming out who's not going to be around for much longer. And I'm sure, you know, Rick will give us the details on that, you know, upcoming episode because that's interesting. Todd Gordon heads out immediately and he starts bitching at Rick Rude and his voice is cracking that you threw away a lucrative two year contract as a ring announcer so you can be a gun for hire. What you do outside of these, the confines of ECW is your business, but what you do in ECW is my business. Then he, this is where his voice cries is. You're not a licensed manager. You're not a licensed man. I'll give you to the count of 10 to leave this ring or Chris Candido is going to forfeit this match. So Rude's all bitching and pissed off. He's, he's trying to explain, oh, everything was all good and fine when I was playing nice with you. Well, ever Since I joined Triple Threat. Now you've been yanking my chain. So then Gordon's like, screw this. He's counting one, two. Rudely's pissed off. He's yelling, you, Gordon, you. And that kicks off the show. We get the opening and then the first match kicks off. It's the ECW TV championship match between Taz and Chris Candido. Taz heads out to the ring looking like a badass as always with that black towel over his head. The crowd pops for him and then quiets down immediately for Bob Baltis. Make the announcement that this is the first of three main events. John Finnegan as the referee ring says, Taz stands in the corner as his arms crossed. Candido is just egging him on to move. He's like a little doggy. Like, come on. That is what he's like, a little doggy.
Speaker D:He's that little yippee dog that just annoys the out of you.
Speaker C:Yep. And he's in Taz's face. He yells at him. He pushes them. Taz doesn't move. Indido smacks Taz in the face. Has. Doesn't move. Then Candido spits in Taz's face. Now that gets Taz's attention as moves towards Candido just slowly. Then Candido hits him a couple times with a clothesline. Knocks him down. Taz back up, knocks him down again. Then we get a series of punches. Irish whip. Candido leaps, leaps up in the middle of the ring like Taz is going to go under him. But Taz just stops dead. Doesn't duck. Stops right there. Boom. Kicking the nuts. Then he nails Candido with the pump handle suplex. Candido rolls out of the ring and dives into the crowd. Candido's outside the ring for five count. Joey's mentioning at this point that Taz and Candido, you know, they have great experience, but they're still so young. Taz only 29 years old. Chris Candido's 25 years old. They've both been doing it for nearly a decade already. So crazy experience there. It's crazy how young they are. 25 and 29.
Speaker E:Yeah. They seem older, right? Could be the grainy footage.
Speaker C:That's true. It just seems like. Yeah, well, they're up their time. Yeah.
Speaker D:Have either of you guys ever read the. The book put out by Tammy, Sunny, whatever you want to call her?
Speaker C:No, but I heard a lot of.
Speaker D:I mean, I think it's very. It's very made up. A lot of it. Or like they downplay. She downplays. Or Whoever the ghostwriter was downplays a lot of things. But she talks about the first night she met Chris. He told her he was like a 38 year old alcoholic and she believed him.
Speaker C:What?
Speaker D:Yeah, I, I, maybe it wasn't 38, but she met, she went, she went to like some indie wrestling show local to her in New Jersey and he was wrestling on it and she had a crush on him and she like bumped into him after the show and he said something about he was like 30 and he had, you know, he had a drinking problem or something like that. And she was like, oh. And he goes, no, no, I'm just messing with you. I'm like 19. Like, it was just like what? Like weird sense of humor. But also you could believe that he was like a 30 year old that had a drinking problem, you know?
Speaker C:Yeah, he's probably already at that time too.
Speaker D:Right? Well, that's the thing is he, he probably looked very similar stature, wise. So, you know, that's, I guess that's believable. But I mean, you know, God rest you, Chris Candido, he's a gone too soon. I don't want to talk badly about him.
Speaker C:Oh, no, he'd be, he'd be training people right now. I think I've said that before, but
Speaker D:yeah, he definitely would be. Yeah.
Speaker C:All right, so back in the ring, we got some action here. Brief brawl and exchange that included an Iraq before Taz then hits a northern light suplex on Chris. Candido going for a two count. Candido comes back with an insiguri kick targeting Taz's neck. Follows that up with a leg drop to the back of Taz's neck and Candido gets a one count. So we're, you know, focusing on Taz's neck here. Taz fights back to get a leg hold on Candino, but Cantino breaks the hold with a punch to Taz's balls. Joey calls it the lower abdomen. I think he says we got a nice vertical suplex from Candido on Taz with two accelerated leg drops and Candido is in control for the moment. Taz then whips to the corner. Candido runs at him, but Taz hip tosses Candido right over the top rope and into into the cement. So Taz and kid to eat. A brawl on the outside as Taz gets whipped into the guardrail a couple of times. Joey continues to sell that his neck is just being slammed into the guardrail. Candido sits Taz on the top rope and nails a hurricane Rona. Candido then climbs to the top rope hits the flying headbutt, and then Taz gets counted for two, kicks out. Candido hits another powerbomb on Taz for a two count. Joey keeps again, like I said, selling the punishment to Taz's neck. Candido slaps Taz around, whips him sternum first into the turnbuckle, which I felt like today. Candido sets up for the Blonde Bomber, but Taz counters with the belly to belly Tazplex off the second rope, which was awesome. They're both down on the mat, and the ref begins to count. They're both back up at five. They go at each other. Taz belly to back, suplexes Candido. Candido lands awkwardly on his head on that spot, and then.
Speaker D:Yeah, he did.
Speaker C:Yeah, it was like, oh, he. He flipped him too far.
Speaker D:Yeah, it was. There was a lot of really good selling by Candido in this and. And you know, Taz doing a lot of great suplexes, but that was like. That was a scary moment, you know?
Speaker C:Yeah, that was like, oh, all right, let's wrap this match up soon.
Speaker D:Let's take it home before somebody dies.
Speaker C:Right? So then Taz hits the T bone Taskplex. Candido moments later comes back with the power slam right on him. And Candido then sits Taz on the top rope. Candido turns his back to the crowd, which is. This is the end here. This is like moments after that spot, they were like, wrap it up. And they really did. So Candido turns his back to Taz and he's telling the crowd that this is over. So he does like the throat slashing thing, but meanwhile, Taz is aware now, and Taz is right behind him doing the same throat slashing move. And he locks in the Tas Mission kata hajime right from the top rope. Candido's struggling. He's moving, trying to get out of the corner. He gets away from the corner, but now Taz is wrapped around him like a spider monkey and he's got his legs wrapped. So Candido drops to the mat in the center of the ring now, and Taz has got that locked in. Candido taps, has retains the TV championship. Nice quick. It was about 10 minutes, but nice quick match and good exchange now. Candido got a lot of offense in, more than I would have thought. Oh, I like that match. Anything you want to add, Ricky Davey, before move on?
Speaker D:No, I. I think that sums it up really well. Yeah.
Speaker C:All right, so. All right, so throughout this, though, you have in the pre show, there was a whole big thing going on with icp, rvd, Sabu, Sandman, which leads into like an ongoing segment, kind of like Monday night Raw style, basically.
Speaker D:Yeah, or like WrestleMania 12.
Speaker C:Oh, that too. Yeah. It's kind of like the. The Hollywood backlot brawl.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:So the first segment that they're gonna show is right from the pre show. ICP came out, they were there, they're hyping up the crowd. And then RVD and Fonzie came out and ICP is introducing them like, oh, he has missed the Monday night. And they're all like hyped for him. But then Rob Van Damme starts kicking their ass for no reason. And then Sabu comes out wearing a suit and he's. He starts joining in and kicking the out of icp. So that's the first part of a few segments that they're going to show that leads into the Sandman stealing an ambulance and get picking up beer. That leads now to the second match, which is a pretty classic match just because of, you know, one clip. It's Bam Bam Bigelow versus Spike Dudley. And the Bam Bam had just previously lost to Spike Dudley the week before. So this is kind of like a revenge match for Bam Bam Bam Bam's definitely gonna get his revenge. So anyway, Spike Dudley runs. He's running out like a maniac. He's swinging a chair. He's sitting all the guardrails, saying all the guardrails. Like, this year, like, that's what I was thinking. I watched. This is like, imagine all these people that would complain today with the way Spike was hitting the guardrail. Like the metal guardrail with the steel chair.
Speaker D:Yeah. He couldn't get away with that today. Yeah.
Speaker C:No. All right, now you have Bam Bam head into the ring to welcome to the Jungle. I say this all the time. I don't think we've used that song before. Welcome to the Jungle. But that might be a break song or an outro song for this episode. Pretty sure we haven't used welcome to the Jungle. That's Bam Bam's music.
Speaker E:I don't think we have.
Speaker C:Yeah, I don't think so. I don't think there would have been a reason to. All right, so we'll use that. Who says Spike is not afraid of Bam Bam? But he. He probably should be. Joey does mention that Spike did pin Bam Bam last week. And Bam Bam. I picked this up when I was listening. Bam Bam calls Spike a little turd. Hey, a little turd. Just think, that's a funny line. Spike goes right at Bam Bam. Once the bell rings. Bam Bam just tosses Spike across the ring like he's a wrestling buddy. Just don't get over there. And the crowd now, I think the crowd is chanting over here. And I mean, the makes reason why. I think that because something comes up later, right? He throws them into the crowd.
Speaker D:Yes, he does, like five.
Speaker C:Why are they chanting over? Yeah, if they're chanting over here and they're, like, moving their arms too, like waving to them, like, over here, over here. Is that something Bam Bam already did before?
Speaker D:Well, that's what I was gonna say is. I have to wonder if maybe at. Because obviously when Spike beat him, it was on hardcore tv. So I'm wondering if there was like a house show like in Florida that the night before or, you know, something like that, and they kind of like tested it out, you know, trying maybe, and then, you know, people.
Speaker C:Sounds right.
Speaker D:Because obviously. Yeah, people.
Speaker C:People that were there.
Speaker D:Right. I was gonna say people that went to the pay per view might also be like, oh, well, hey, I can go see it the house show. See the. You know, see these guys multiple times. And it just happens that Bam Bam threw him into the crowd the night before, too. Which I wouldn't put it.
Speaker C:Probably. Definitely.
Speaker D:Because abuse that, you know.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:But you don't want to test it in Philly because people are just gonna, like, rip Spike's clothes off and stab them and. Yeah, yeah, whatever. Throw batteries at them. Those people, they don't even like ice cream. Did you guys. Did you guys see the. The Eddie Gilbert dark side of the Ring?
Speaker E:No, I haven't yet.
Speaker C:Oh, I didn't finish. I listened to BTT's coverage of it, but I didn't watch it yet.
Speaker D:There's a. For anybody who hasn't seen it, there's a point where they're interviewing Ricky Morton about Eddie Gilbert being in Philadelphia for ecw. And Ricky Morton has this great line. He's like, I. I can't even do. Do it justice. So I'm just gonna say it. He's basically like, those people in Philly, like, they're just. They're just nasty. They don't even like ice cream. You know what I mean?
Speaker C:What a line.
Speaker D:I'll tell you, Rick, Ricky Morton is a little off, but Ricky Morton, in that he's. He comes off as like, I want to go drinking with this dude. Because he's just a riot, you know?
Speaker C:Oh, yeah, for sure. All the stories he has. Damn. All the stupid sayings that he has from all the years.
Speaker D:Oh, yeah. And all the. All the other Stories that he can't really tell on national tv.
Speaker C:All right, so in. In the right here, we got Spike hits Swinging Bulldog. And then Spike immediately turns around, runs up the top ropes, gets caught by Bam Bam Bam Bam gives him a massive powerbomb that leads to an ECW champ. And Bam Bam just grabs and lifts Spike up like a baby, up and over his head. Tosses him up over the ropes and onto the corner post. And then Spike falls out onto the. Onto the floor, right? This lifts him up and then, like, deadlifts him. Yeah, just like that. Crazy. Bam Bam pulls Spike back into the ring now by his hair, presses him up once again. And here's the big spot. Bam Bam has Spike above his head, and then he starts running and tosses him over the top ropes over the guardrail like. Like Rick said, like five rows in,
Speaker D:just into the crowd. People catch him kind of, but not really.
Speaker C:It takes him a while to even get back in.
Speaker E:Right.
Speaker C:I think he got busted open inside there.
Speaker D:Pretty sure he did. Yeah. At some point, he's bleeding, so
Speaker C:I think it's from that. Maybe it was on the. On the corner post. Either way, he got up. Bam Bam is in the middle of the ring. He's waiting. He's waiting for fight to come back in. Baby M does his old, old school cartwheel that he used to do.
Speaker D:Yep.
Speaker C:And he's posing in the center of the ring. Now, the match should have been over because Spike was out there for, like, 30. 30 seconds to a minute. And the referee, who's Jeff Jones, he's. He's not making a count. But then Bam Bam gets him, pulls Spike back into the ring and does a shoulder breaker. He sets Spike up in the center of the ring, and then he goes up to the top and does the moonsault. But it's more like a half moonsault because Bam Bam doesn't fully do that moonsault anymore the way he used to. Now he's. He, like, turns on his side. Yeah, it's like the kid who's in the pool, he's like, oh, I'm gonna do a backflip. And then he does, like, a little side back.
Speaker E:Yeah, like.
Speaker C:Like a back flop.
Speaker D:Yeah, yeah. It's not. It's not full. A full backflip.
Speaker C:Yeah. So that's what he did there. But, hey, it did the job and crushed him. Get the three count. Bam Bam's the winner. Spike is busted open. Damage control runs out there, helps him out. Then you get a dude with a mop coming in the middle of the ring and he starts. Starts cleaning up the blood. Enjoys like, oh, we gotta get out of here.
Speaker D:I have to. I have to wonder, is this the first time we've seen Jeff Jones as a referee?
Speaker C:Yeah, that's the first time I noticed. I think so.
Speaker D:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Foreshadowing. You see a lot more Jeff Jones in a couple of years.
Speaker C:Yep.
Speaker D:But yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:So from there now we get another segment now. And this segment has Sandman coming out to save ICP from earlier in the pre show. He's unable to compete though. So that's why he's. He doesn't have a match as a back injury due to Sabu. And he was just gonna hang out in the crowd and drink some beers and watch the show. But he didn't like what was going on with icp so he came out and he ended up getting up too by RVD and Sabu. And the end of the segment we see Sabu get loaded into the ambulance. So we'll see what goes on from there. Now on to the next match. You get Rob Van Dam with Bill Alfonso. Rob Van Damon involved in a lot tonight. And he's taking on Al Snow. Al Snow on loan from wwf basically at this point working out a new
Speaker D:character in his league.
Speaker C:One that will become very famous.
Speaker E:Right.
Speaker C:He's coming on his Leaf Cassidy Alpha.
Speaker D:Yep, buddy. But he's got the. The long hair and the goatee, right? Yeah, he's kind of angry. Yep.
Speaker C:So you have Robin. Damn. Come out. He's. He's wearing his WWF tights. He's wearing tights that have WWF logo on. It says Mr. Monday Night. He gets billed from being from Stanford, Connecticut as well. Now Bob Matthews, when he announced this match, he said this is going to be contested under Monday night rules. I don't. I don't know if that meant anything
Speaker D:at all other than I think that's just. We'll hate RVD that much more.
Speaker C:Yeah, must be.
Speaker D:They never really hated him that much.
Speaker C:Oh no. No way. How could they? Yeah, they're just playing along.
Speaker D:Yeah, exactly. Everybody plays along.
Speaker C:So also heads out there. He comes out to prodigies Breathe. And like Rick said, he's still working out Leaf Cassidy gear and Al Snow is already starting this new gimmick. Right. He has long hair to goatee. Just said. But he's also doing the head shaking and the eye twitching and like something's wrong with him. Like. And he's like holding his head and then especially he's holding his head and holding his ears because fonzie won't shut the up with his whistle blowing. So right at the start of the match, Snow jumps out of the ring and chases Fonzie. And then when walking back into the ring, RVD kicks him in the head. Oh, we get a lot of action here. Our Snow hits the snowplex or wheelbarrow suplex, which is badass. And, you know, there's so many spots, obviously, I'm not going to keep up with it, so I'm just gonna highlight stuff here so we get some action outside of the ring. At one point, Snow is trying to jump on the guardrails, but Al Snow walks. Yeah, Al Snow was trying to. What the. I even wrote down. But anyway, he's around with the guardrails. Yeah, he was trying to open the guardrails, but they weren't. They weren't opening. So he got frustrated and he walked away, and he went all the way to the back. And now off camera, we don't know, like, what the hell's going on. Joey Styles is like, where's he going? Is he leaving? And then just all of a sudden, rvd, who's at the ringside, all of a sudden, we see El Snow just clothesline the hell out of him. So I'll. Snow like, sprinted from the back all the way to the ring and get the out of rvd, then whipped him into that guardrail that he was trying to open. They must have had some kind of plant spot where they were going to go out into the crowd that they had to change because El Snow couldn't figure out how to unlock the guardrail. Anyway, RVD later misses a baseball slide, and Snow hits RVD with a clothesline whip to the guardrail. RVD hops up on the rail, then hit a moonsault on Snow. Pretty badass. RVD hurdles and dives over the top rope onto Snow after that. Then RVD tosses Al Snow back into the ring. Al Snow connects with the superplex. Both men are down on the mat. Snow goes for a cover, gets two count. Snow gets another superplex, but RVD is fighting back on the top of the rope. He tosses Snow down to the mat. RVD comes off of the top rope with a leaping sidekick, followed by a backward splash and a cover from rvd. Only for two. RVD is back in the ring, and he goes up to the top, hits a huge frog splash. Al Snow kicks out on two. I'll. Snow eventually mounts a comeback. He does the backwards splash like RVD did, and then he gets in his face, is like, I Could do it too. So he does that, and then he hits the northern lights bomb. That was pretty cool. So I'll. Snow got innovative moves back then for sure. RVD misses a rolling thunder and then hits a leaping sidekick and misses that as well. RVD tries for another spot in the corner, but gets kicked off the corner turnbuckles. RVD falls out of the ring. He lands on a couple of chairs that are just at ringside because there's a timeskeeper table where there's no timekeeper even sitting. But anyway, there's that. Snow dives out of the ring for a somerset plancha onto that empty time counters table. The table doesn't break. That had to hurt. Snow then goes down.
Speaker D:Must be a Japanese table.
Speaker C:Diff stiff tables. So RVD has he. He hits south Snow with a series of chair shots. Snow goes for a running clothesline from the entrance again, but RVD whips a chair at Snow's head. Snow sets up the guardrail. So Al Snow's getting beat up the hell out of with the steel chair. The next couple.
Speaker D:You ain't kidding. You ain't kidding when he says he whipped it at his end.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah. He just chucks it at him.
Speaker D:He didn't give a.
Speaker C:That was. That was in the. The way that went down was perfect, too, because, like, Fonji just, like, flipped him the chair.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:Then he just threw it right at him. Yeah. That was brutal. Snow gets up onto the guardrail. Now, then Fonzie holds a chair. So, yeah, so I also was, like, sitting on the guardrail. And then Fonzie puts another chair in front of Al Snow's face. And then, you know, RVD does his thing. He jumps up and does a little sidekick right into the chair that lands into Snow's face. Then moments later, we get back in the ring. Snow takes steel chair leg drop to the face. And then, you know, Snow finally gets us one. Move on. On. RVD hits a ddt. Then as Al Snow's getting up, RVD is now up. Fonzie then, from outside of the ring, tosses a chair over Al Snow's head right to rvd. RVD catches it. Then he tosses it to Al Snow. Al Snow catches it. That spot always remind me, like, something out of, like, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie. Like, hey, like Mike, like Michelangelo would do to a foot soldier. Hey, catch this chair, Then kick him in the head with it. We get the Van Daminator to the face. That knocks out Al Snow. RVD gets cover. 1, 2, 3, and man, just too many Chair shots to the head for Al Snow by the end of that match. Good little showcase for Al Snow as he starts to get more action in ecw.
Speaker D:And we'll see more of Al Snow in. In the coming months.
Speaker C:Yep, for sure. And gonna get some head. Finally get some head.
Speaker D:What does everybody want?
Speaker C:Give us all the head. All right, now we got another intercut segment here. And now this one is live. This is live. They're live from the Extreme Chopper with Lance Wright, who's legit in a helicopter.
Speaker D:I was gonna say. They legit rented a helicopter.
Speaker C:Yeah,
Speaker D:I was gonna say. Which is the most amazing and also dumbest thing ever. Like you. You spend all this money to rent a chopper and you have the shittiest production values. Yeah.
Speaker C:Horrible. Just like, following this, they're like, they got to be really low too, because you can. You can see. You can see the ambulance, you know, kind of fine. Like, it's not like it's way up.
Speaker D:Right?
Speaker C:What the story they're telling, though, is the Sandman. He's. He's drunk driving, right? So he. He took over the ambulance somehow he commandeered the ambulance and now he's driving it and he's lost. He's going in the wrong direction. He's not going to the War Memorial. And they say something like he first went to another venue that wasn't holding the. The show. Then he realized it was the wrong place. And then he drove. Drove away. He can't find a wall Memorial because he's hammered.
Speaker E:All right.
Speaker C:Lance Wright said he'll keep us posted. He says wherever he goes, we will be there. Like he's a. On the news or something.
Speaker D:Yeah, he's. Yeah, he's trying to be a news like reporter.
Speaker C:Yeah. I had read that this was. I don't know if the. Whoever wrote it was John Lister in his book Turning the Tables. He. He wrote that this was a take on a couple WCW segments. But what we said early made more sense. Like it was the wwf.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:Brawl. I don't know of the WCW segment that at this time, in 97 and 96, that would have been.
Speaker D:So I was gonna say 90. 95 was the. Was the. The. The King of the Road match between.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:Dustin and. But that was 95. And then there was the. Was it 93? Actually, no, it was more like 91. 92, when Rick rude injures Sting and Sting goes to the hospital and then steals the ambulance to come back. But again, that's the early. That was way, way before this. So, like, people and people that are watching ECW aren't necessarily going to remember six years ago, Sting was brought to a hospital and then he stole an ambulance and drove it back because he had to defend his US Title against Rick Rude.
Speaker C:Maybe that is what they're thinking, though.
Speaker D:Yeah, I mean, I'm, I, I remember, I remember that, but I'm a loser,
Speaker C:so, you know, was Paulie there at the time? Because maybe that's what do you remember?
Speaker D:Yeah, yeah, because it was Dangerous Alliance. Rick Rude.
Speaker E:Right?
Speaker C:Yeah. Okay. Yeah, it was 92.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:Okay. So it had to be that. Then I was at a.
Speaker D:At a Clash of the champions, I believe.
Speaker C:All right, that makes sense. All right, now we get a quick little promo. What's that?
Speaker D:I said it's still stupid.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah, yeah. It's still kind of funny though, too.
Speaker D:Oh, no, it's one of those. It's one of those things where it's stupid, but it's also because it's stupid. It's funny, you know?
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker D:Didn't they say he, like, he, like, stopped at a liquor store or something too?
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, Yep. That's coming up in the next.
Speaker D:Oh, that's coming up. Sorry.
Speaker C:All right, we got a quick little promo from Jerry Lawler. Jerry Lawler says that he talked to Vince McMahon and said this is going to be the darkest day in his career. And Vince is like, well, you have the intestinal fortitude to go to ECW and be in the belly of the beast. He said, no, I'm not by myself. I get the spirit of all the WWF wrestlers with me. I talked to the Undertaker and the Undertaker told me that Tommy Dreamer needs to get a tombstone. Can you finish him off with a tombstone? Like, I even talked. I got a call. I even talked to Brett Hart, and he said, I know we have our differences, but Tommy Dreamer. Did you. Could you put the sharpshooter on him for me? And then he said, finally, don't call. Steve Austin called me and said, I need to open up the biggest can of whoop ass on Tommy Dreamer. That's what I'm gonna do. That was Jerry Law's freaking promo. It was kind of lame.
Speaker E:Yeah. Not his best work. Far from it.
Speaker C:No, no, not at all.
Speaker D:At this point, on the pay per View, there was no audio. Like, we, we got that. We had a one with audio, but the original pay per View, there was no audio. So you have no idea. Yeah, you're watching. Jerry Lawler cut a promo and nobody knows what he's saying right there was
Speaker C:there Was no audio during half of the El Snow ran match the. The whole Sandman helicopter segment.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:So that was the first time that they were alive with the helicopter. So if you were watching it and you had no volume, you were like, what the going on? Why is there a helicopter? What's going on here? We just follow. But I mean they, they would know Sandman got put into the ambulance, but they didn't know anything about Sandman stealing it or anything. It's just following an ambulance.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker C:And then they didn't have to hear Jerry Lawler. I think it came like actually it came back on in the next match. So they, they missed some of this good stuff at the beginning of the tag team match with the Dudley Boys. All right, so here's the last match that we'll cover before we move on to the final watch along portion. So we have the ECW Tag team championship match. It's gonna be the Dudleys. We're supposed to be taking on the Gangsters to. To contend for the titles. This was the champions. But Mustafa was essentially fired. I guess from what I read is. Cut one of them and decided that he's going to keep New Jack because New Jack has more charisma even though Mustafa is a better orca. There was. I forget what the circumstance was, Rick. Do you know about that? Because I heard it was like a little choice like had to be made who to keep.
Speaker D:Yeah, I, I don't honestly remember. I know it was a, it was a case of like New Jack and Mustafa. I don't think we're getting along. And yes, maybe New Jack was like, I think right, you. You keep. Keep me. You keep Mustafa. But you know, everybody knows who the, who the real, you know, who the fans really care for or something like that. And you know, New Jack, you know, patting himself on the back as like you know, he's the realest in the. In the company or whatever. And Paulie was like, well, I mean he's not wrong, you know, but New. New. New Mustafa is a. Is a great worker, you know.
Speaker C:Yeah, that's. That's exactly. Yeah, that's what it was. You nailed it. All right, so we have this match. It's now going to be the D versus PG 13. So you have Dub now taking the titles because Gang said the forfeit boys automatically get the title and they're going to take on PG13 in their first title defense. What they should have done is just oh, gangster set to forfeit the title. So this is a title match. Whoever wins is the Champ instead of just giving it to the Deadly Boys. They should have just said that this match is now, you know, for the vacant title. Anyway, I guess it doesn't matter. Dudley Boys are in the ring. They're with Big Dick, Sign Guy, Joel Gunner and Jenna Jameson. And immediately we get the chance. Show your tits. Show your tits. Show your tits. So of course. And man, is she looking good in that black bikini top that she has on. Gartner's got a woody. Garden has got a woody, you know. So Joe Garner does his thing and I'm not going to go through it all, but he does it. And at one point he calls himself Studly Dudley and tells Jenna that better remember that name because she'll be screaming it later. Dudley.
Speaker D:Dudley.
Speaker C:So the WS are now announced as the new three time ECW Tag Team Champions because like we said, the gangsters had to drop the titles because Mustafa was cut from the team. Joe Gartner says that the double is with Jenna are X rated TV tag team. X rated tag team. Rather, I don't know why I put TV there. X rated tag team. And their opponents are just rated PG 13. Oh, I like that line. So I liked it so much I it up when I wrote it. Okay, JC Ice and Wolfie DF PG 13 head to the ring to jump around by the House of Pain. They are the current USWA Tag Team champions and they were recently released in June from wwf. Just a couple months ago they were released as members of the Nation of Domination, which I don't think they were released for any bad reason. I just think the story that they were in, they were no longer needed for because the storyline in June for the Nation changed because Farouk then fired Savio Crush PG13 and they formed what Ron Simmons called a bigger batter, better and blacker Nation of Domination. So they were all, not all of them, but they were let go because there was really no need for them anymore. It was probably only a temporary thing in the first place. They were just backup rappers anyway. I took bumps. So anyway, JC Ice calls Mama Dudley a hoe because all the Dudleys look different, so the mama must be a hoe. JC Ice tells Joe Garner that Joe Garner looks like Elvis Presley right before he died. Like that line. Then JC Ice turns to Jenna and does his little butthead impersonation, goes, hey baby. Then it says, if you want to ditch the zero, get with the hero. I'm at the days in baby. I love how that sounds. So white trash too. And like he's all proud of It. But it sounds like trash. Look, I'm at the Days in, baby.
Speaker E:What's more trash than that? Howard Johnson's during that time. Maybe.
Speaker C:I'm at Hojo, baby.
Speaker E:I'm at the La Quinta.
Speaker D:The. The Red Roofing.
Speaker E:I'm at the Moby Dick.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:Motel six.
Speaker E:Motel six.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker E:It's not like I'm at the Courtyard Marriott, right?
Speaker C:I'm at the Motel 6. I'll leave the light on for you.
Speaker D:It's. It's. It's very much a. Ladies, the line is to the right. Kind of a. Kind of a motif. Gigolo. Jimmy Del Rey.
Speaker C:Yes. Right. All right, so the PG13, they look so tiny compared to the W's. It's crazy, but, man, BG13 can work their asses off. Now the best part of this match, though, is definitely going to be Jenna Jameson's Bombados. So hands down that they needed more cameras on her the whole time. That's my one gripe, by the way. JC Ice and D1, they start crisscrossing the ring. They to start the match, but JC Says screw it. He slides out of the ring and he lands a huge kiss on Jenna Jameson. And man, good for him. He. He got that kiss even though she's not going to be going to the Days in later. He's stolen from there. Yeah, and she's like all grossed out. She's spitting. Bubba Ray's all pissed off. And Bubba Ray's like, pissed off at Jenna, too. Why'd you kiss him? Why'd you kiss him? Anyway, we get into the ring. Bubba and Wolf get tagged in. The match actually begins now. The comedy is over, at least for a little while. Wolfie gets a hurricane Rana on Bubba, which was impressive. A series of punches. Wolfie misses a high cross body from the top rope. Then Bubba starts working on Wolfie's arm. Bubba spits on JC Ice, then sidekicks him as well. On the ringside, AC Runs in, allowing D. Von now to double team Wolfie while the ref is distracted. Get a funny spot. Now Wolfie is doing a reverse arm wringer to Bubba, and Devon has his back turned so he's facing the audience on ringside. And then Wolfie sets Bubba's arm on Devon's shoulder. So Devon now thinks that that's Wolfie's arm, but he stops yanking and pulling on it and slamming on it, and it's actually Bubba. So he then realizes it's Bubba. He's like, oh, my bad. And then you get a you up chant from the crowd. And then, you know, PG13 joins in it too. And like, you up, you up. Then Bubba slaps D. Von. So they're arguing at the ringside area, but meanwhile, Big Dick comes in to save the day. He goes in there, double chokes him. PG13 as his brothers are arguing. But then once they realize that Big Dick has helped them out and PG13 is both on the mat, Devon and Bubba hug it out and they get back to action. And now they are basically in total control for most of the match. Now, at one point, JC gets tripped by Jenna, so she gets a little receipt on JC for sneaking that kiss. The crowd chance for Jenna to bounce, bounce, bounce, bounce. And then she complies. And she sounds bouncing up those titties, and that looks great. I love how matters.
Speaker D:I only got one thing to say about that crew. What.
Speaker E:Perfect timing.
Speaker C:Yep. You had to get that one in. Sure.
Speaker D:I. I had to. It's, it's. It's been a kind of a running joke, you know, that we, we reference Beavis and Butthead a lot on this show. So.
Speaker C:Yeah, we're gonna find more. We gotta get a hey baby too, hey baby.
Speaker D:We do. Yeah.
Speaker C:All right. JC Ice finally makes a comeback. He lands a series of punches to Bubba. Bubba asks for another one, but. So Bubba's like giving him right here, right here. And then JC says he just kicks him in the nuts. Then JC makes the tag to Wolfie. D. Wait in the Ding ding. Kick them in the ding ding. We got a double drop kick to the doubles. Yeah, kick them in. Ding ding.
Speaker D:Yeah, we need that as a sound drop.
Speaker C:And then we get a tiger bomb to Devon from Wolfie. So Wolfie's got some good spots. Man. I was impressed, Wolfie. Bulldogs bubble off the top rope. Then you know, PG13 has cleared the ring. They. They dive out. They dive out to the Dudleys. And Wolfie and D Varn are back in the ring. Bubba whips JC Ice into the guardrail. Yvonne then reverses an Irish whip. So here we are at the finish. Yvonne reverses the Irish whip. Yvonne pops Wolfie up. Bubba is now back in the ring just in time after dealing with JC Ice on the outside. And that's the perfect timing. Just nice and smooth. It's the 3D, the Dudley death drop home in the middle of the ring. Wolfie takes the COVID pinfall. 1, 2, 3. Dudley's retain or actually earn the titles at this point because they actually beat another team and they're the champs. Three time champs, JC Ice as the Dudleys are Walking away gets on the mic one more time. Dudleys, you may have won that match, but your mother's still a hoe. What?
Speaker E:What a sore loser.
Speaker C:All right, then we get that last segment before we start our watch along portion following that ambulance still. And Lance thinks that Sandman is still lost. Says that stamen at one point he did stop at a gas station, came out with a pack of cigarettes and a nice cold beverage of some kind. So Lancelos Sandman finds the arena before the show ends so that he can get his revenge against Sabu, an rvd. All right, and that's our coverage of the first half. Okay, the first half that we actually did watch a couple weeks ago, I figured just cover it all here now, instead of watching again and reliving all our same jokes, actually give you a little bit more detailed coverage this time. All right, so there's that. And now we're going to go to our break. We'll take a quick little break, take a listen to some Guns N' Roses. Welcome to the Jungle. And then we'll be right back with the second half of hardcore heaven 1997. We got two big matches, two big main event matches. Tommy dreamer versus Jerry the king lawler and the three way dance for the ECW championship. Sabu versus the franchise versus Terry funk. We'll be right back,
Speaker A:Sam. Welcome to the jungle we got fun and games we got everything you want we know the names we are the people that you find Whatever you may need if you got the money, honey we got welcome to the jungle welcome to the jungle. The bray and you're a very sexy girl Very often you can take some bright lights but you, you won't get there for free. I want to hear you scream. Welcome to the jungle it gets worse here every day you learn to live like a jungle where we play if you got to hunt up for what you see take it eventually. Knees, knees I'm going to watch you bleed. When you're high you. Down. Sam, You know where you are. You're in the jungle, baby. You got to die. Welcome to the jungle to me.
Speaker C:All right, we're back now for the second half of VCW Hardcore Heaven 1997. From August 17, 1997 live, Fort Lauderdale, Florida. And we're back for the second half of the coverage, which is only two matches, as I said, two big matches. D Dreamer versus Jerry Lawler. And then the ECW Championship three way dance. We are watching this on the Internet Archive version. Right, Rick? Is that where we get this?
Speaker D:Yes.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:Yeah. Because the the other version that, that we found has the audio cutouts even though it had the pre show.
Speaker C:All right, Z, if you want to watch along with those, we're at the 1 hour and 23 mark of that and we're going to watch it out to the, to the end of it. All right, so it's about an hour and six minutes. All right, so I'll give a countdown three down to one as always and say play. I say play. Click play. Everyone ready?
Speaker E:Yes, sir.
Speaker C:All right, here we go. Three, two, one, play.
Speaker B:We got, we've got no lights here at the War Memorial.
Speaker D:Lights are out.
Speaker E:We've got no lights here.
Speaker C:Dirty law is in the ring. See if he can cut a better promo than the previous one. Yeah,
Speaker E:the bar is low right now.
Speaker D:Foolish freaks view.
Speaker B:Because you obviously have more money than you have brains. So what I want to do is I want to invite you to watch a real Pay per view September 7th from my own stomping grounds, Louisville, Kentucky.
Speaker C:Ground Zero Wrestling Federation Ground zero.
Speaker B:And I'm going to tell you something.
Speaker C:Austin stuns Jim Ross. Yeah,
Speaker D:He had to think for a second. What can I say?
Speaker C:Most of the crowd is probably going to watch it too.
Speaker E:Yeah,
Speaker C:like they weren't fans of other wrestling federation.
Speaker B:Not one, not two, but every one of the World Wrestling Federation superstars.
Speaker D:Bob RT is just standing in the corner. Yeah, like. All right, shut up. Come on.
Speaker C:Original recording. Obviously we make fun of people in the crowd and so now we get a chance to do that again.
Speaker E:Yeah.
Speaker C:Call out the jerseys that we see. And
Speaker B:that's when the undertaker told me.
Speaker C:Yeah, we talked about that number seven Bengals, right? Yeah, it was Boomer Sia, wasn't it?
Speaker E:Yeah, yeah. Or Keely Smith. I think that's where we landed. Yeah, but I think we landed. It was definitely Boomer size and we looked at like the dates played and
Speaker D:yeah,
Speaker C:it was like his last season.
Speaker D:Yeah, he goes to the jets or something afterwards.
Speaker E:Yep.
Speaker C:He's literally saying the same.
Speaker E:Yeah, this is a repeat.
Speaker C:How the would they play that?
Speaker E:Worst promo of his career
Speaker C:does it twice. Yeah, they played it twice.
Speaker D:Well the first time he was doing it like in front of a WWF background or whatever.
Speaker C:Oh, I didn't realize that.
Speaker D:I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure.
Speaker C:But it's.
Speaker D:He said the same thing. Oh, hello.
Speaker C:Looking shiny.
Speaker D:Oh yeah, that. You can tell it's the late 90s when you're wearing shiny clothing.
Speaker C:Oh yeah,
Speaker D:that guy gets to put his hand.
Speaker C:I hope she wasn't in a puff Daddy.
Speaker E:Video.
Speaker D:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:Look, these guys just have to touch her. No, you can just be around her with their shitty ties.
Speaker D:And then floral guy has one earring. Dude wearing a Bret Hart heart foundation T shirt right now.
Speaker C:He closed the guardrail like he's helping out the security guy.
Speaker D:Yeah, I know.
Speaker C:I got it. I'll shot it.
Speaker D:Is that a Steelers jersey? 95.
Speaker C:Good guy. Look at that. New Superman jersey. Hot shirt, rather. Yeah. When he was. We came back and he sucked.
Speaker E:Yeah. Where his long hair?
Speaker C:No, this is the one after that. Like was the white in blue. The big white S. I know.
Speaker E:All new Superman.
Speaker C:Yeah. All new Superman. Yeah.
Speaker E:Oh, yeah. This is 97 black. Superman was way early than this.
Speaker C:Yep. Yeah. Those are all like 94.
Speaker D:Yeah. Death and return of Superman. Yeah, it was like 90.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, Yeah. This is the Superman that had like. Holy. He punched his crown off his head.
Speaker D:That was a good bump.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker E:You could hear it. You could hear the cloud.
Speaker C:The.
Speaker E:That played out as perfectly as they could have asked.
Speaker D:Yep.
Speaker C:That worked out. Sure.
Speaker D:See, this is what I'm talking about. Like this random shadow from the lighting Trust. The. The arena is dark as. You can't. You can't see like more than five rows up.
Speaker C:And the camera is right on Dreamer and Lawler. And you can barely see them. Is all the shadows.
Speaker D:Yeah. Lawler's busted open now.
Speaker C:Man. Lola must have been like, give it. Give it to me. All. As long as the true sport. Yeah. Pro.
Speaker D:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:Holy crown. You got hit with cans. What is this, a cheeseburger? Yeah, just rub the burger in his face. Oh. Oh, the Burger King. That's why.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:Guy has a sign that says, we miss you, Stevie. Oh. Some dude goes to high five of his security, just shoves him out of the way.
Speaker C:All right, going deep into the crowd now. Yep. Where they going here? Up the stairs.
Speaker D:Going up the bleachers
Speaker C:now the crowd's into it.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:Waller must die. The sign there. Yep. This match has been building for a couple months, so it's. It's. It should be hyped. Be big like this. The plastic. Smash them with a plastic cup.
Speaker E:Yeah, that'll do damage. Maybe those 90s plastic cups hit a little different.
Speaker D:Somebody's offering Tommy his popcorn.
Speaker E:Popcorn bucket.
Speaker C:Put on his head. Put on his head and punches him.
Speaker D:Yep.
Speaker C:King is up. I'm hardcore. A fan hasn't signed. I'm hardcore. Yeah, shut up.
Speaker D:For a second there, I thought Tommy was about to do the. The Randy Orton draping DDT. You know, 20 years before he actually does it in WWE. Not 20 years, but you know what I mean.
Speaker C:Yeah. Oh, he's choking him with his. Someone's belt.
Speaker D:Yeah, some dude's belt.
Speaker C:Took his pants off. Took his belt off. His pants. Laws getting choked out looks like. For real.
Speaker D:Yeah, he doesn't have his fingers in there at all. He's, he's hardcore. He's not, you know, trying to prevent himself from getting choked.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:Say what you will about Jerry Lawler, but he is, he is taking an ass kicking in this.
Speaker C:Yeah, probably likes this too. I haven't done this in a long time.
Speaker D:No, no, because I mean, you figure this is 97 WWE where he. Well, WWF at the time, where he's been. He hasn't been really wrestling much to begin with and even then when he did it was all comedy type, you know.
Speaker C:Right. Yeah, since 1992, but five years.
Speaker D:Yeah. Yeah. Well, the figure the, the year before he had that little mini feud ish thing with Mark Henry, but it was just him like making fun of Mark Henry and then Mark Henry beat his ass. Like it wasn't this, it wasn't a Memphis brawl all over the place.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker D:Yeah, like, like you say like 92 when it was Lawler and Jeff Jarrett against the Moondogs, you know, and they're brawling to the concession stand and breaking the door to the, to the outside and that kind.
Speaker C:Oh, all right, now all's getting some offense now.
Speaker D:Yeah, that was a good, that's a good shot. This, this has been a good match so far. Entertaining at least.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, definitely. I'm happy with it.
Speaker D:Yep.
Speaker E:Worked its way around the entire arena.
Speaker D:Yeah, everybody gotta. He's rubbing his blood on him. That's gross.
Speaker C:Wondering if they ever come back here and if there's a difference in the lighting. They figure out like what they did wrong. Yeah.
Speaker D:Maybe later.
Speaker C:Yeah. Default a lot of deal.
Speaker D:Yeah,
Speaker C:but I know like at this point they're going there for monthly shows.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:I just don't know if any of them are recorded for your hardcore TV or there's any other big shows. Oh, there's the, there's the guy that's always at the Madison Square Garden shows with, with Vladimir. Yeah, he goes on mostly ECW arena shows too.
Speaker D:Yeah, he was in the WrestleMania 9 documentary.
Speaker C:Yep. They actually documentary on him too.
Speaker D:Oh, did. I thought it was on Vladimir that they did.
Speaker C:They did one, they did a full one on Vladimir and they did like a, a 12 minute one on him. Oh, it's on the network.
Speaker D:His name Like,
Speaker C:I forget. Call me or something.
Speaker D:Why do I want to say his name is, like, Angelo maybe? Yeah, some.
Speaker C:Some name that's definitely Italian. Like, related.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:But yeah, it was. It was a short segment. I forget what. I forgot what it was called. But yeah, it talked about all the shows he'd been to, too. That one came out before the Vladimir one.
Speaker D:Gotcha.
Speaker C:That one's interesting to watch.
Speaker E:Hey, Tommy.
Speaker C:Tommy boy. Whip the. Out of him, though.
Speaker E:Yep.
Speaker C:Hey, if. Ls gonna get a beating, you gotta take one, too. Yep.
Speaker D:I mean, we all know Tommy. Tommy's good about taking a beating.
Speaker C:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker E:He's not.
Speaker A:He.
Speaker E:He's never one to shy away.
Speaker C:Nope.
Speaker E:The King goes extreme.
Speaker C:Oh, there's that.
Speaker E:Got a whopper.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:Took it off the ground. Now he just throws it on top of him.
Speaker C:Don't. Took their time to go to Bur King and bring a whopper before they went and saved it the whole night back.
Speaker D:Back when a Whopper was like $2.
Speaker C:Oh, he's tying the. Hang that belt around the rope. Some extra leverage. Referee's like, no, don't do it. Get the out. Is he kicking them or stomping? Because it sounds like a lot of stomping going on.
Speaker D:Yeah. That's a loud ring.
Speaker C:I'll drive a time.
Speaker B:God.
Speaker C:Oh,
Speaker D:textbook.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker E:His eating grin.
Speaker C:His what? What you say?
Speaker E:His eating grin.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah. When he got up. Yep.
Speaker D:He didn't put the strap down before he did the pile driver.
Speaker C:Oh, that means it's not over yet, right? He's not. He's not winning. Could be that. He's like, say it louder. Good point.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:Joey Styles calling him out. Gay Memphis wrestling is basically ecw.
Speaker D:Yep.
Speaker C:Wiping his ass. He's gonna wipe his ball. Wiping his ass with it. I'm a dreamy shirt.
Speaker D:Then he throws it into the crowd.
Speaker C:Someone has that.
Speaker D:Yeah. Conrad
Speaker E:punches never get old.
Speaker C:It's so good.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:I'm Is not phased by him, though. Nope.
Speaker E:He's taking his strap off.
Speaker C:What's left?
Speaker E:Monkey see, monkey do.
Speaker C:But I have another man boobs. Say Tommy's getting the man boobs now. Just kind of had boobish when he was jacked.
Speaker D:Yeah. I was going to say, even the Chippendales, Tommy, he. He kind of had man boobs. They weren't pecs. You.
Speaker C:Oh, there it goes. Nice. I'm standing over him. Better watch your nuts.
Speaker D:Is he gonna teabag him?
Speaker C:Yeah. Shoving the T shirt and Wall's mouth. Why is the referee even there? I knew he was gonna Hit him in the balls. Yeah. Oh, I knew it was gonna do that.
Speaker D:It's like I always say, is it really a Tommy Dreamer match if he doesn't get hit in the balls at least once?
Speaker C:Maybe this time you don't have to get his balls drained some blood.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:Very lower. Doesn't care he caused it. We don't get enough Bueller in this match either. Oh, ref bump. Like we needed him anyway. Out.
Speaker D:I was a ref bump in an ECW match. Come on.
Speaker B:That sandwiched in there.
Speaker C:What it does is make it so that they can't be a winner for a while.
Speaker D:Yeah. DDT is the ref.
Speaker C:Kind of bullshit's going to ensue now.
Speaker D:He's going to crack his nuts on the. On the.
Speaker C:Oh, Reversal baller. Right into the post. Gonna get the nutshot. Oh, lights out. Oh, we're gonna get a surprise person here.
Speaker B:What the hell going on?
Speaker C:What it's always just is this. Come on. Don't see anybody. Oh, how many just got hit with a trash can? Oh, Trick.
Speaker D:They totally missed the. I mean, you saw him get hit, but totally missed Rick Rude hitting him.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah, I forgot. Rick Ruden from the beginning of the show to this point.
Speaker D:Guy with an FBI shirt on right there. Oh, now Tommy's busted open.
Speaker C:Rude helping out his new WWF colleague. Little up yours from a. To the crowd. Oh, referee's back. Barely.
Speaker E:Yeah, he's barely back.
Speaker C:He's halfway out the ring. Pissed at him. Slaps him in the head.
Speaker D:Stomps on his head. Yep.
Speaker C:All right. Go for a power driver. Oh, the lights are out again.
Speaker E:Oh, lights are out.
Speaker C:Who's next? Funny how that person was like, what the. This.
Speaker D:It's Jake Roberts.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker E:Jake the Snake. Pre ddp. Yoga
Speaker D:Jesus.
Speaker C:The clothesline. Tommy.
Speaker D:He did.
Speaker C:He just had a few with Lala.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:Talking about it was drinking all the time and all that.
Speaker D:Yeah. Summerslam96 I think.
Speaker C:Yeah. Yeah. Right? Yeah.
Speaker D:Nobody does a DDT like Jake the Snake.
Speaker C:Rob. Nope.
Speaker E:It's not even close either.
Speaker D:Nope. Nope.
Speaker C:So good.
Speaker D:Just effortless. And it just looks devastating. Okay. I don't know what he said, but okay.
Speaker C:That short arm clothesline. They gotta. You too. Gives the ref a little kick.
Speaker D:The. The ref's telling him to get out. And Jake's like, just cut out the pin.
Speaker E:A little sweaty.
Speaker D:He's gonna go back and finish the crack rock that he left to interfere in the match. Allegedly.
Speaker E:Where's my whiskey? I did the job.
Speaker C:I'm at dog 2020.
Speaker E:You promised me three bang. DDT them get in the back. Give me that Johnny walk.
Speaker C:All right. Get some punches. Again. Tom is stumbling but staying up for body slam. Up owners goes for a ddt. It's out again. Yeah. That first person that said that, right? What the is this? He probably thought the power went out or something.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker E:Who can it be now?
Speaker C:Who's next. Had. Whose side would this be? Oh, it's sunny.
Speaker E:It's Sunny.
Speaker C:Hairspray.
Speaker D:You did the worst. The worst job of spraying that.
Speaker E:Oh, here's breeze.
Speaker C:Oh, Bueller goes after Sunny. Now this is what I want.
Speaker E:Now we're talking.
Speaker C:And now wallace grab bueller. Oh, yeah. Oh, I mean, almost hit Bueller with the chair. Oh. Swinging kick to the nuts. And a punch to the nuts and a punch.
Speaker D:He's. He's grabbing them. He's got the test on.
Speaker C:It's like Paul Heymon onto Roman Reigns.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:One, two, three. He did the claw to the nuts. That was it. All by the ddt. What a match. That was fun.
Speaker D:Sonny's having a temper tantrum
Speaker C:on the. On the who? She.
Speaker E:Got that. She took that. Damien. Whoever.
Speaker D:Whoever had the best coke or just actually leave this.
Speaker C:Whoever had Roberts, Jake Robins.
Speaker E:She put the damn in. Damien.
Speaker C:They were both. They did it right before they came out.
Speaker E:Yep.
Speaker C:Look like three minutes.
Speaker D:Yep. And again we'll point out like. Like we did last time. They got the random monitor of Joey.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:Showing the exact same. Showing him talking like
Speaker C:so shitty. Then when they're too far back, you can see below the. The banner, you can see somebody's leg, some guy's feet. Yeah. Video package. February 5th.
Speaker D:The line was crossed.
Speaker B:A three way dance between the then champion, Terry Funk, a young upstart named Sabu.
Speaker C:We covered this so long ago. Miss the old ECW stuff.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:94, 95.
Speaker B:Hardcore heaven.
Speaker C:97 was the best. I seeing live coverage.
Speaker D:Audio of the package is going in. Yeah. Again, good, good production values.
Speaker C:Look at Tommy. I mean, Joey. Joey just looked like. What the ye.
Speaker B:The ecw.
Speaker C:The damn video package. Idiots.
Speaker B:I understand we've got another update from Lance Wright who's in the Extreme chopper. And Lance, where is the Sandman? What exactly is going on? Is he. Is he close to the building? Does he have any idea where he is?
Speaker C:I mean, they get pulled over by the.
Speaker D:Yeah, no kidding.
Speaker C:The ambulance.
Speaker D:I mean, it's Florida, so I don't think getting pulled over by for driving drunk is, you know, very common.
Speaker C:A couple weeks ago in Swansea, there was a call to an old folks home and the old Folks who was, like, kind of out of it or whatever. He. He took the ambulance and drove it into Providence and got pulled. Pulled over and, Like. What?
Speaker E:Poor guy.
Speaker C:He drove all the way into Providence, though.
Speaker D:For those of you who aren't from our area, Providence in Swansea, you know. Yeah. I was gonna say it's not like it's right next door, but still. Yeah. 20 minutes and then drive. Providence traffic is not. Not easy to drive in.
Speaker E:Ah, sucks.
Speaker C:Oh, that was crazy. Now he's driving ambulance, hitting whoever he's fighting off, everybody.
Speaker D:Yeah, the lighting's so great, you know, you can see who the hell he's hitting.
Speaker C:Yeah. Yes. It's supposed to be cops. Maybe he finally did get pulled over.
Speaker D:Yeah,
Speaker E:I got him.
Speaker C:Yeah, we got him.
Speaker E:He's ours.
Speaker C:Damn it. You're. We'll let you go to hardcore heaven in a little bit. All right, main event time. Yeah. They seem like they're all excited.
Speaker D:Yeah, I was gonna say they sounded so excited.
Speaker C:Well, they just had that match before. They should have put something else. Should have put, like.
Speaker D:Yeah, there should have been a cooldown.
Speaker E:Bam.
Speaker C:Bam and Spike. Yeah, that's the only one I can think of. Or even the Dudleys and PG13. That wasn't too wild. They just went on a ride. Now they're probably exhausted.
Speaker D:Yeah. You need something to kind of calm down the crowd. Not that they're, you know, not already calm, but, you know, nothing too crazy so that then you can bring them back up for this match.
Speaker C:Right. I'm sure they'll get there with this match. But they weren't even excited to hear it announced.
Speaker D:Right. They should be getting. Right now. They should be getting hyped. Perfect Strangers is playing.
Speaker C:All right. Francine's coming out.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:This guy is killing me. He's like. Obviously, he's walking down to the ring.
Speaker D:Yeah. He's finding a way to touch her, but he's also.
Speaker C:He has his eyes looking around like he's looking out for a sniper or something.
Speaker D:Right. Head on a swivel.
Speaker C:Yeah. He's like, might be a sniper out there. Like, I'm practicing my detail for the president.
Speaker D:Right. I'm gonna be a Secret Service agent soon.
Speaker C:Shove Bob out of the way. Head chill. Later. Good. Head cheerleader. Oh, what is he herself with. What was that glow stick?
Speaker D:Oh, I mean, it's 90, 97, so, you know, there was those girls that had, like, the glitter, you know, body.
Speaker C:Oh, those little. Contain.
Speaker D:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:Good about those containers with the glitter. Yeah.
Speaker E:Damn confident.
Speaker D:The dude. The dude in the boomer size and jersey is holding up the four horsemen. Like ric flair.
Speaker C:You ric flair? Yeah, Maybe that's Carolina Panthers jersey. What?
Speaker D:The ninth, number seven.
Speaker C:That looks more like a jersey, though. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, it's tough to tell this shitty color, but yeah, it is orange.
Speaker D:Yeah, when they're closer. When they're closer, you can see the orange and then the guy. The other side's got a. Looks like a Steelers share Zion.
Speaker B:The world heavyweight title last Saturday night.
Speaker C:Hey, doesn't like Douglas, man. He's pegging him off.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:Dick flare.
Speaker D:It's. It's your song.
Speaker C:The song. How can you come out of this? Only he could pull it off.
Speaker D:Only he could pull it off.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Still going strong.
Speaker C:Get in here, old man. Been like three and a half years since that last big match with them. Yeah, well, not the last match, but since that big match.
Speaker D:Yeah, since the last three way dance between them.
Speaker C:All right. Crowd loves them. Here comes the new champ. How long had Taboo had the title at this point?
Speaker D:A month?
Speaker C:A week? A month?
Speaker D:Maybe less. Less than a month. Let me look it up.
Speaker C:You don't want that money from that hussy. What was he paying him off with? $80. Yeah, right. 20s.
Speaker E:That's still not like a lot of money then.
Speaker D:Yeah, I was gonna say, even in 1997, 80 bucks was not that much money to pay somebody off.
Speaker C:Yeah. Babu comes out with no music,
Speaker D:so $70 is how much a Nintendo 64 game cost.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker E:Go get Mario World. Bribed him with Mario World.
Speaker D:Yeah, there you go. Yeah, A goldeneye. So, yeah, Sabu had been the champion for a whopping. A whopping eight days.
Speaker C:Eight day. I thought it was a week. Eight days.
Speaker D:Yeah, yeah, he won it. He won it on August 9th. And this, this was August 17th.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah, yeah, that's right. It was Born To Be Wired was. My name.
Speaker D:Yeah. Because they had aired the. They had aired that match. Well, the results or whatever on August 11th. So six days earlier on that episode of hardcore TV.
Speaker C:Yeah, they had quick turnaround with that. They had to right away.
Speaker D:Yeah. Because this was coming up.
Speaker C:This is risky to do one. They should have just kept it on honk until this.
Speaker D:Yeah. Bombay especially putting it in a barbed wire match. You know, the two of them are still up. They're still all sliced up and, you know, whatever.
Speaker C:Yeah, Just. Just. Right. Just having that match in general. Yeah.
Speaker D:Yep.
Speaker C:Oh, they had to sell out the arena. It's something big. Yeah.
Speaker B:Match up last Saturday night. He had his bicep Torn wide open, refused to get stitches. Finally was convinced by Rob Van Dam and Bill alfonso to get 100 stitches.
Speaker C:And then.
Speaker B:Crazy.
Speaker C:Let's see how this match goes. Three way dances are tricky. Always going to be somebody not involved in action.
Speaker B:Process here.
Speaker C:Wasn't in the. The. The original three way dance, like, Taboo was out of it. Funk was out of it for like, 20 minutes.
Speaker D:Yeah, yeah. Like, yeah.
Speaker C:Who it was.
Speaker D:Sabu gets injured and I'm doing air quotes and they take him off on, like, a stretcher and then he comes back like, 10 minutes before the match ends or something.
Speaker C:At least they did something like that rather than how it is today, where they just hide from the camera.
Speaker D:Right?
Speaker E:Yeah.
Speaker D:Somebody. Somebody bumps, bumps, rolls out, and then. Then the other two guys fight for five minutes while that guy just lays on the floor and does nothing till it. Till it's time for his next spot.
Speaker C:All right? He's like, you guys fight it. Go ahead. I'll stay out here. I like that. At least that's honest.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah. You guys go at it. Help me out here. All right? I'm gonna try to be fair to Sabu here. Okay. I'm not just gonna say he sucks. That was a good spot right there.
Speaker D:Yeah, he did. He didn't it up and fall. Yeah, Right. Plus he's got shiny purple pants on.
Speaker C:I like the shiny purple pants.
Speaker D:Yeah, they like lavender. They're nice.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:That side of the ring has, like, one row of people only.
Speaker D:It does.
Speaker C:Look at that. Just like one grouping of people.
Speaker D:Some Japanese tourists.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:It really is. Like, I'm not even thinking. Yeah, people. People listening might think I'm trying to, you know, I'm saying something racist. It's like. No, it's a. It's a row of Japanese people taking pictures. That's like.
Speaker E:That's an accurate statement. It is what it is, right?
Speaker D:It's a fact.
Speaker C:What the hell's going on over there?
Speaker D:No, no.
Speaker C:Yeah. Maybe that was like a special, like, trip. They said, I will give you one whole side.
Speaker D:Yeah. Then they put, like, the. The banners behind them.
Speaker C:They're not on the hard cam, so you can never see them unless.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker C:Unless they're outside the ring in that area.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah. You can use your. Your Google skills later this week. You might be able to figure out why there was a whole row of Japanese people.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:Hardcore Heaven 97. Google Food, whatever.
Speaker D:Like, yeah, my. My black belt.
Speaker E:What day is this hardcore heaven?
Speaker C:17.
Speaker D:17.
Speaker C:Shut the up, damn whistle. I don't know how any of them can Concentrate with it.
Speaker D:Okay,
Speaker B:Take.
Speaker C:Funk is in and out. I guess that is the timekeeper's table. With a double axe sandal as well. Double A sandals. Double double axe handles. Sabu and Francis franchise teamwork makes the dream work. Yeah, working together. This kind of matches, you gotta work together every once in a while
Speaker A:and
Speaker C:you stop rolling with each other. Like the Royal Rumble double team someone then stop each other up.
Speaker D:Yeah, somebody's gonna get double crossed.
Speaker B:Y champion.
Speaker C:All right, Shane Douglas taking a back seat now while Terry Fung works on Sabu. Douglas makes a save and allows for a little double team there. Shane Douglas quick to go for the pinfall, though. Up. Smart. Taboo does the work. Shane sneaks in for the COVID Only got two, though. Baby your Fonzie saying his babies out there. Air Sabu in the corner. Shane sneaks in for the pin again. That's the thing. Sabu, he does all these spots, but he can never follow up because he hurts himself every single time he does a spot. Right.
Speaker E:Doesn't carry enough weight either. Yeah, like his strength is like a four. Air Sabo sounds like a legit airline. Maybe racist, though.
Speaker C:That does go for the COVID this time. But Sheen's ready to hit him with the steel chair to break the count because he wants that cover. God damn it. Aem had his. His move was called Air Africa.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:Oh, go behind. It's locked. No. Trying to suplex. Oh, he gets it. Flops over and starts. That's good. Oh, Terry Monk doing his whistle.
Speaker E:Going nuts.
Speaker C:Oh, my God, that whistle whistle.
Speaker E:Terry Funk is winded.
Speaker C:Hell yeah.
Speaker D:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:All right, Taboo, you gonna up?
Speaker D:Oh, no, I'd. I'd say he did all right on that. He might have hurt his elbow, but he didn't. He didn't hit the guardrail, Right?
Speaker C:Well, it wasn't one of those things where he gets on the ropes and then he slips and has to step backwards.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker C:He got up on the ropes, he jumped and he jumped over the God rail into the crowd. He missed him. That was planned, you know, that was the spot. It landed in the bleaches. Now he's hurt. He's gonna be out for a little bit. He's on my Superman for.
Speaker D:I don't know when does. He said. Makes sense. He has a. He has a good line in a. A later bout about Vince McMahon, so.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker D:I'll point it out when we get there.
Speaker C:Is it on pay per view or is it on hardcore TV?
Speaker D:It's on hardcore TV.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker D:It's. It's. It's in 98.
Speaker C:Okay. Wow, what a moonsault abuse crisp tonight.
Speaker D:Yeah. And even, even when he messes like quote unquote messes up, it still looks fine, you know? Yeah. Like he hasn't done anything wrong. Like you say slipping or losing his balance or anything. That was nice.
Speaker B:Now it's Terry Funk setting up a couple of chairs.
Speaker C:These guys are working their asses off. Holy. Oh, Neck breaker. With the help of Shane Douglas. Uncles for the COVID too. That was three, man. I'm trying to get out of here. Get some beaten down men in the ring. Funk with some blows to Douglas in the corner. Oh, Sabu comes out of frame with the chair. Backs out of, makes the out of both of them. Gets his hands up for these chair shots, though. Blocks him left punch to Taboo. This is a chair shot to Douglas. Douglas gonna get him in. What is that? What did he do? Oh, he's just doing a spinning to hold.
Speaker D:He's basically doing like a spinning toehold, but then he falls backwards. So it kind of like hyper extends the knee.
Speaker C:Yeah, Yep. That's pretty good. Yeah.
Speaker D:I mean, it's capitalizing on the fact that he chop blocked his knee.
Speaker C:Yep. Break job.
Speaker D:And then Sabu kind of sloppily elbow.
Speaker C:Yeah. Steals the COVID Look at CH F is laying on top of Sabu. Like he's going to get the COVID too. Yeah, we both.
Speaker D:It is an elimination match, so it kind of makes sense, I guess.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah,
Speaker D:I love it.
Speaker E:Did you see the ref with the peace signs?
Speaker D:Yeah. But Sabu got pile driven and he holds his hamstring.
Speaker E:Is that a Reggie White jersey up front? I can't see it.
Speaker D:He said here comes Douglas with the bear.
Speaker C:It's got with the God around. Yeah.
Speaker D:What number 95. Is that what you're saying?
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker E:Find the hitman.
Speaker D:That's a Steelers jersey.
Speaker A:Oh,
Speaker C:I was about to say that. That's a dangerous thing to have in the ring.
Speaker D:Yep.
Speaker C:Look at that thing. Sets it up in the car. It's all up.
Speaker E:It's like monkey bars.
Speaker C:Oh, man, that's landing on like the leg. Oh, geez.
Speaker E:Especially taking that move. What if he like hits it awkwardly?
Speaker C:That back body drop could have went horrible.
Speaker B:Of his body on that.
Speaker C:Oh, Imagine that if he pinned both of them. That was cool.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:Taboo going for a double pick fall to end this. Sabo's up, stomping away on Funko. Douglas gets a breather in the corner. At this point, it's believable why somebody would be not in the picture for a Couple minutes.
Speaker D:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:Busting their ass. Look at them.
Speaker E:They're exhausted.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker E:He struggles. I mean, Sabo's not the biggest guy and he struggled. How's he gonna do Terry Funk here? He got it.
Speaker C:Wow. Got it. But still. Yeah, it definitely tells. Doesn't have all his energy. Yeah.
Speaker E:Let's slow this down for a few minutes.
Speaker C:Yep. Everyone put the sleeper on. Let's take a break. Sabu gets out of it now. Funk has it completely on Douglas Sabu. Oh, no. Sabu goes to the back of the train here. Yeah, he's.
Speaker D:He's getting her rear shin lock going.
Speaker C:They're just gonna keep reversing. Oh, see those security guns just run. Book it through the crowd. No, going on right where number seven is. They opened up the gate and they. Three of them went running.
Speaker D:Yeah, number seven's looking
Speaker C:all right. But we do have a good spot going on here. Let's see. Oh, you it up.
Speaker D:Okay. I'm not gonna say. I was gonna say. I'm not gonna say. That was totally sad fault because the chair gave.
Speaker C:Yeah, Yeah, he didn't. That was just beaten down chair.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker C:Which is real to the realism. It was funny, though, right after that, fondy tossed in a new chair like he was on the spot. Yeah. These guys need new chair. Yep. I'm gonna try again. Sets up a new chair, nails it. Oh, wow. Double splash.
Speaker E:Wow.
Speaker C:One, two,
Speaker D:Into the ring, over the top ropes. And then when they both kick out, he just goes.
Speaker E:Okay.
Speaker D:Drops down, slides out.
Speaker E:He's nimble for he's a non wrestler.
Speaker D:He's a very nimble, athletic dude.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:It was Funk just throws a chair at Sabu's head.
Speaker E:Who the hell's not trying to just throw in that. Who threw that table to the rink? A fan?
Speaker C:I don't know.
Speaker D:Probably Ponzi.
Speaker C:Oh, all right.
Speaker E:He ran to the other side. All right. Yeah, now he's back.
Speaker D:Yeah, he moves around a lot.
Speaker C:Has a lot of work that he has to do in this match too.
Speaker D:Now he just. He ran over and like, moved Francine out of the way and she's like, what the.
Speaker C:Yeah, he had to. He had to fix the table, right? They. Get out of the way, hon. I gotta fix the table.
Speaker D:Get out of the way, baby.
Speaker C:Little punches from Fonzie. Oh, what is this? Sabu sets up a chair on the top rope. This can't go. There's no way this goes right. Oh, Todd Gordon's in there. Oh, he's fighting.
Speaker D:Yeah, he pun. He decked Fonzie and now he's. I don't know what he's doing to him. Making out with him.
Speaker C:Sabu on the top rope, setting up this chair. That is not going to end well. Nope.
Speaker D:They're putting Todd on the table.
Speaker C:Hot is on the table. That was the chair.
Speaker D:He landed on Fonzie.
Speaker C:Yeah, he just splashed him with his ass.
Speaker D:Landed on Fonzie.
Speaker C:Todd Gordon.
Speaker D:No, no, no. Fonzie was on top of Toddlers. And Sabu landed ass first on the back of Fonzie.
Speaker C:They got up.
Speaker D:Yeah, they did.
Speaker C:Match is wild. Man, this has been a chaotic second half between this match and Baller Dreamer. The first half of the show. Yeah. And I said that about the first half and first time we recorded is that. Yeah, I really enjoyed the first half. Oh, it's kind of good pacing and decent matches. Nothing crazy. But then you get to this part and then it's like, wow, this is what we paid for. Pay per view.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:Not every match should be like this. In the last one, you built up for the main event to see this crazy.
Speaker D:Yep. All right. Because if every match was like this, it wouldn't. You get bored of it.
Speaker C:What the hell does it matter, right? Cyber going up with a lot of do. The Shawn Michael spot. Sandman's back. Sandman found the arena for an alcoholic.
Speaker D:That dude's very nimble.
Speaker C:He got IV before. Before he got hydrated.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:Oh, there's the cops, though. Dragging his ass out. Yeah, we caught up to you. Oh, Sabu is eliminated.
Speaker D:Now he's fighting the cops.
Speaker C:Sandman comes in and cost Sabu the match.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:Oh, continue on with that.
Speaker E:Feuds.
Speaker C:All right. Sabu's like you. He sets up a chair, he's going to go flying out. Sao goes flying onto the cops and Sandman. Now we get an ECW chant finally for this match. Deserved one earlier. Guess they don't like the cops and fault Laila.
Speaker D:No,
Speaker C:Those workers, bro.
Speaker D:I think. I think so. Is the champ one of them workers, bro?
Speaker C:We working the room here or what? Harry's going out.
Speaker D:Say, going back to what you were saying, the fact that it's like Madison Square Garden. It's very distracting watching in the background, seeing all those. The cops and everything, you know, like, not from this angle, but before when they had the wide angle.
Speaker C:Right. And see what the hell was going on just watching that nonsense. Oh, look how dark that shot is. Are they trying to hide the Japanese people? They have no lights over there, right? What the fuck? Holy shit. He's beating the Fuck out of him. He sent him his own head now too.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:Playing a song.
Speaker D:Yeah. They got the whole locker room in the aisle.
Speaker C:Yeah. Al Snow's out there.
Speaker D:GC ice is out there.
Speaker E:What's that lime green shirt up front?
Speaker C:The FBI is up there. Yeah, yeah. Mothers.
Speaker E:That's them, right?
Speaker D:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:That's a bunch of wrestlers out in the stand there.
Speaker D:A battle royal that Perry Saturn.
Speaker E:Not a bad royal. Lumberjack.
Speaker C:Lumberjack Perry Saturn there.
Speaker D:The guy in the ECW shirt with green shorts. Is that Cassie Saturn?
Speaker E:I think you're right.
Speaker C:Didn't see him. That's a one on one match. Funk and Douglas. Oh, swing in the belly to belly.
Speaker E:Another belly to belly. Oh, man. How many more you got left in the tank?
Speaker C:It's like the whole locker room had to come out and see how this match ends, right?
Speaker E:Oh, yeah, that's what they're putting over call. Oh, man, there's some ass.
Speaker C:Francine and Franchise stand up a table, part of the Japanese section.
Speaker E:Japanese.
Speaker C:Japan.
Speaker E:Japan. Yeah. Oh, yeah. She's gonna him with a heel. Oh.
Speaker C:Oh, Funk. Looks like he's up.
Speaker E:He's exhausted.
Speaker C:He's like 90. I mean like funk like he's getting beat to death, his dory. Funk, huh?
Speaker D:Big, right?
Speaker C:It's been a while. Where's my hat? Where's my hat?
Speaker E:What? That's not three.
Speaker D:Yeah, it looked like three.
Speaker C:Single leg kicked way.
Speaker E:Oh, what a reversal.
Speaker C:Tight suplex. Oh, rough.
Speaker D:That was. That was bad.
Speaker E:That was trash.
Speaker C:Said belly to back. I mean, it looked like a side suplex, but yeah. I don't know what it was meant to be. It's going through
Speaker A:now,
Speaker C:Terry. Miss.
Speaker D:Oh, the hell was that?
Speaker C:O was that. Yeah, just like.
Speaker E:Yeah, went flying.
Speaker B:Buck both sprawled out on the table on the concrete.
Speaker C:It did split in half though. But yeah, just kind of flopped to the ground though. Black wrestler next to hack my ass. I don't recognize that guy. Is that New Jack? Like a T shirt tucked into his jeans. All right, Funk kicked out of that match is getting down to it.
Speaker D:Oh, the. The guy on the right next to Saturn.
Speaker C:Yeah, the gray.
Speaker D:Is that J.T. smith?
Speaker C:It's bald. Could be J.C. smith. Maybe it's New Jack.
Speaker D:It could be New Jack. Yeah.
Speaker C:Oh, roll up. One, two. Was it.
Speaker D:That was it.
Speaker C:That was out of nowhere.
Speaker D:Yeah, it was.
Speaker C:I was expecting maybe one more belly to belly and then end it, but he snuck in that at last.
Speaker D:He just did a belly to belly and that's it. That was like a snap. Belly to belly.
Speaker C:Yeah. Yeah. Snap belly to belly. Roll up.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:Francine runs in the ring, grabs the belt and Green Douglas is once again
Speaker E:ECW champion and his assholes hanging out. Stop it.
Speaker C:Stop it, Terry.
Speaker E:Yeah, that's mine.
Speaker C:People throwing into the ring. Oh, Funko whack the. With that belt again in the stomach. I think he went through enough. Can we get the official decision? Crowd doesn't seem too happy.
Speaker D:Yeah, they chanting
Speaker E:after that great match.
Speaker C:Come on, come on.
Speaker D:Because I think that they wanted Terry Funk to win, which I, I don't. I don't have a problem with Douglas winning.
Speaker E:No way.
Speaker D:He didn't. He didn't him or anything, you know.
Speaker E:Yeah.
Speaker C:Everything that's gone on over the past few months has been meant for Shane Douglas to win the title.
Speaker E:Yeah. He's their guy.
Speaker C:Right. Since Raven left, Shane Douglas got elevated your personal to the champion scene scene.
Speaker E:And it's the evolution of the brand.
Speaker C:Even gave up that is easy title, basically.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:Like people should have known this was what was going to happen.
Speaker D:Did you, did you catch that?
Speaker C:No. What?
Speaker D:They're stomping on Terry Funk and he's. Terry Funk sits up and Bubba like kicks him in the face and is like, you stay down.
Speaker C:You like
Speaker B:Franchise. It's as simple as this. My question is, why won't you just dump your moderately successful current tag team partners and go with the men who have the tag team goal?
Speaker C:He's talking about Candido and Bam Bam.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker B:Down Franchise.
Speaker C:Joel Gner with a proposition comes Bam. Bam. And Candido. Is Candido wearing neck brace? Yeah, Doug, like you, he goes after Big Dick. Bam Bam with Bubba and D and D on. And we just had, you know, this great match and now it's just turned into some new kind of feud out of nowhere. Even let the match breathe. Now we got everyone in the rink.
Speaker D:I don't honestly hate, hate that they're transitioning to a different feud though. But I, I get what you're saying. That let the match breathe bit a little. Little. Yeah.
Speaker C:He could even have his music play. Like even like is the title of it. Like you just beat up Terry Funk. Joe Gner comes out, you. All right. So triple threats out of there and everyone's each other up. Which is kind of a cool way to go off the air.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker C:Everybody just. But what's funny though is people are leaving like they just got lost, you know, lost the Royal Rumble or something. Like they stopped the fighting. They're just like, all right, I'm out of here. This guy.
Speaker D:I don't Know, but
Speaker C:how they ended it.
Speaker E:I just heard Jungle Booty or whatever, that song.
Speaker C:Then it just went off the air, Right.
Speaker D:It cuts to the ECW logo. Go. Does the static and that's it. No, no copyright, no, you know, list of credits. Nothing.
Speaker C:Time to go. We're off the air.
Speaker D:Yeah, like I said, satellite time's up.
Speaker C:Yeah, exactly. That's probably what was going on. But, yeah, that was a good visual to see, you know, all the different wrestles in the ring fighting. There's all this chaos and whatnot. No, you got a new champion. So fun. Hey, it's better than what I had read that people had said about it.
Speaker D:Yeah, it's better than I remember.
Speaker C:I watched it a couple years ago and I. I remember liking it. So we started talking about it. You were saying, like, you got fondly liked. I was like, yeah. Why? It's pretty good.
Speaker D:A lot of. A lot of people definitely didn't like the. The. The fact of, like, the production.
Speaker C:Yeah, that's a biggie.
Speaker D:That. That kind of, I think put a damper on it. But overall, the action. The overall action in the ring was. I don't think it was any worse than Barely Legal. And barely wasn't that bad, right?
Speaker C:Yeah. If this had the quality of Barely Legal, this probably would have been better.
Speaker D:Oh, absolutely. This would have been, I think, follow up.
Speaker C:I think the matches are definitely better than what was at Barely Legal. But the production, that plays a lot into the enjoyment of actually watching a show.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker C:Like, if you can barely see what the hell is happening, even though it's good, it's like this.
Speaker D:Right. Or if the audio cuts out or.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker D:They're showing a promo package and then all of a sudden it cuts to Joey Styles making an O face.
Speaker C:Yeah, he's like. His face was more like, what the.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker C:Yeah, the you doing here? All right, so let's wrap this up here. Glad we got through it all in one shot.
Speaker E:Yeah. For real.
Speaker D:Right?
Speaker C:Nice. We able to finally move on to something different. And we'll be doing that in two weeks when we move on to hardcore TV episodes 226 and 227. It'll be our 105th episode of hardcore TV covering hardcore TV TV. And that'll be covering August 19th and 26th of 1997. So it'll be wrapping up August, moving into September. Oh, with that said, please, one last time. Check out JV and I on the bottom line Wrestling cast. We have episodes available. We have the latest episode covering stunning Steve Austin. It was episode 22 called Title Shots. We covered March of 94, and we'll also be working on the April 94 episode as well, episode 23. So that'll be available in a couple weeks probably as well. And then we also have our 316 today special that came out. And then we covered Chuck on Saturday night with Rick Beebe. So check that out. And check out all our previous episodes covering the entire career of stone cold Steve Austin, the Hollywood blondes, and stunning Steve Austin. And again, please give us a follow on x Bottom line cast at extreme cast. Follow me Mike Pro MPU 83 follow JV at John Van damage all Rick B at Leo Y85. All right, guys, it was fun, and I. I hope this new recording program works out for us. Seems like a. Seems like it works fine. So hopefully, you know, we get this out and continue to use it.
Speaker D:Oh, yeah, Yeah.
Speaker E:I think we got a winner here, right?
Speaker C:And it's free, so.
Speaker D:Yeah, of course.
Speaker C:All right, guys, so thanks for listening to BTT army. And we'll be back in two weeks. Any final words, guys?
Speaker D:Oh, I got nothing.
Speaker C:All right. So long,
Speaker A:Sam.
Speaker B:Street hustler comes up to me one day and I'm walking down the street minding my own business now he looks me up and he looks me down and he says hey man, what be this and what be that? And why you gotta cook like that?
Speaker C:Well, I just looked at him, I kinda laughed?
Speaker B:I said hey man, I am cool
Speaker C:I am the breeze?
Speaker A:Hallelujah. There's a brand new way yeah, you
Speaker B:know we ain't always winners but this is the life we choose? And we won't change or rearrange and
Speaker A:we ain't ever, ever gonna live? It ain't always easy when the going gets rough? When you're getting even?
Speaker B:You gotta to show your stuff tell about it now?
Speaker A:Hey, have you read the news. Sa. Now.
Speaker C:You.
PPV Special #2 - ECW Hardcore Heaven '97: 08/17/97
Original Release: May 21, 2025
Mike P, JV, & Rick will be covering the second ECW Pay-Per-View, Hardcore Heaven 1997 from Ft Lauderdale, FL on August 17, 1997!
We will discuss the first half of the PPV and then do live watch along coverage of the second half of the show!!
- Show Opening - Joey Styles
- Match #1 - ECW TV Championship Match - Taz vs. Chris Candido (w/ Rick Rude)
- Performance - Insane Clown Posse - RVD & Sabu Attack
- Match #2 - Bam Bam Bigelow vs. Spike Dudley
- Match #3 - Rob Van Dam (w/ Bill Alfonso) vs. Al Snow
- Sandman being followed in a Helicopter by Lance Wright
- Promo - Jerry Lawler
- Match #4 - ECW Tag Team Championship Match - The Dudley Boyz (w/ Jenna Jameson) vs. PG-13
- Match #5 - Tommy Dreamer (w/ Beulah) vs. Jerry “The King” Lawler
- Main Event - Match #6 - Three Way Dance - ECW Championship Match - Sabu (w. Bill Alfonso) vs. Shane Douglas (w/ Francine) vs. Terry Funk (w/ Dory Funk Jr.)
- Next Time: Ep 105 - ECW HCTV 226 & 227: August 19 & 26, 1997
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