It's a new year. Dave Douglas. Oh, my God. I've traveled with this guy. I've trained with them, I've broken bread with them.

And I choked him out.

The final battle between Raven and Tommy Dreamer.

You did your job and ran the fuckers off.

Look at that.

From the twisted steel section of Dudleyville.

Extreme Championship Wrestling has been thrown into disarray.

This, my friends, is E. C W. Welcome to the Extreme ECW live cast. And we are back now for another episode of ECW Hardcore TV. And we are covering episodes 199 in episode 200. 200 Bicentennial. And we're covering February 11th and 18th of 1997. I'm Mike Prue, along with JV and Rick Beebe. How you guys doing?

Doing well, bro. Doing well, bro.

Getting ready for WrestleMania.

Hell yeah.

Yeah. WrestleMania tomorrow. And when you guys hear this, probably about like a month old at this point, because we are recording this episode with two other episodes in the docket. So, yeah, we're doing work, you know, we're doing like, booking a territory style work, though, you know, Rick, you know what I'm talking about?

I, I do, I do. Lining them up.

They do those episodes way in advance. And that's become our strategy here too. Just get these things done and put them out when. When they need to be put out. And we've been pretty damn consistent, like, with our schedule.

Yeah.

Even though, you know, even though listen is like, oh, where's the episodes they recorded?

Yeah, we got them in the can.

They're out there.

That's the important thing.

Right? So, yeah, this is another one that's in the can. And WrestleMania weekend is upon us right now. So we're excited for that, but we're more excited to bring February of 1997, where ECW is really starting to pop off and, and lead us to the first big pay per view, Barely Legal. So. And we had some good in the last episode. So even though I do have to say, like, because I already can feel the heat, the heat's building up onto me. Mike Pro. Why the did you hate Dr. Death Steve Williams so much on that last episode?

You made a lot of enemies.

You want to know something like I did? Yeah. You want to know something after, after that? Not immediately, but like a day or two later, I was like, you know what? Just, just, just to, to make sure, I'm gonna go and I'm gonna watch some, some doctor Death in Japan. And I'll give you this. He's not as good as I thought. Yeah, like that's what I was saying.

That was my point.

It's not that he's not talented and although, like, I could do what he does, but, like, it's very, like paint by numbers kinda. And it's just like, it's a lot power.

Yeah, I. I bench press. I fucking push weights with my legs. And then, oh, now I'm a wrestler, right?

Yeah.

Okay. I can't go into all that again because.

Yeah, I will. I will agree with you that, that a lot of. A lot of the mystique is based on what people say about, oh, he's a God or whatever in wrestling. Not actually what happened.

Yeah, he's good for the time, but we're from the time too, that actually can't appreciate that. Like, it's not like we're way out of our realm of, oh, he wasn't. Like, he wasn't good. But no, I. We know enough. Yeah, we know enough to know that he was good in spots where he could be good. And then I can criticize him if I want the.

It's a free country.

He's lame.

As you do what you want.

All right. Yeah. If you want to at me, follow us on Twitter or X whatever the. And that's addict stream casting. If you want to really go right at me, hit me up at NPRU 83. Follow JV at John Van Damage. He'll tell you to off whenever, about anything. So don't. With JV. JV's not dealing with at all. I deal with. He deals with. No, he's also good to follow.

He's also good to follow for stock tips.

Yes.

Not financial advice.

No, I said stock tips, not financial advice.

That's right. That's not allowed. Yeah. David will tell you off. I won't. I'll be like, whatever.

You'll entertain. The JV just cuts it off.

Damien will respond.

Right.

That's how it is.

Yeah. You also follow Rick.

Rick BB at Leo Y85. And that's us. This is our crew right here. Also check out JV and I on the Bottom Line Wrestling cast the career of Stone Cold Steve Austin. And we have covered the entire career of Stone Cold Steve Austin at this point. Special episodes, special wash longs. We've done special series. We've done the Hollywood Blondes. We are currently in the Stunning Steve series. We covered his first half, done 16 episodes on that. And we're about to go into the second half. And at this point, you know, over the past three episodes here on Extreme BC Live Cast, we said that episode 17 was coming up, and it hasn't been up yet, but it is coming up. But our latest episode, though, was a 316 special. Our sixth annual 316A special, and that was covering Kevin Owens versus Stone Cold Steve Austin at wrestlemania. And we finally did the watch along, and that was a great one. That was fun. So check that out. And also upcoming is episode 17, the Battle Ball returns. Stunning Steve Austin becoming a singles wrestler again and kind of just floundering being nothing. But we're gonna cover it. He's. He's gonna get his hopes up, and I'm gonna be the u. S. Champion then they're gonna push me then. Nope. Hacksaw. Jim Duggan beats me in, like, three seconds, and then I'm done.

Hacksaw.

I can't wait to get to the hacksaw match.

It's gonna make me so mad.

I'm looking forward to that, too, because I want to hear JV going, what the, man?

That's Rick baby's impression of JV all the time. What the, man?

That's basically me. I have, like a hundred words I use and 17 different phrases. That's it.

All right, so again, check us out there. And also check out Rick bibi. He got the hybrid wrestling cast, and his latest episode was episode four. Little departure from his original first three episode series, which was covering pancrase, but now it's going back in time. It's ricky dozen versus kimora. And that was good. That was a little history from the 50s. Damn. It inspired us on our last episode to get some Ricky dozen bands, some random band we never heard playing some music.

Was it French? Like southern rock?

Hey, that was fun, though.

No, it was a good. It was a good.

It was good. Whenever someone says it was a good, that means now it sucked. Yeah, it was good. No, it sucked.

It was fun to cover, but it sucked.

Right, right.

And you had to listen to it, so whatever.

Welcome to the show.

All right, so let's get to the real show here. That is our coverage of ECW hardcore TV episode 199. Almost 200 episodes. And we're gonna get to that later. 200 episodes, guys. What the. And we are in February of 1997. February.

A lot of debuts in this. In this. These episodes, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Big one. Yep.

One. One. One big one. And then one that I'm, you know, kind of. I'm a little biased, but I. I like. What. What's going to happen in the second episode?

All right, well, set the table, Rick. Just give A little preview. Keep listen. Is listening.

We are. We are going to meet the. The Japanese contingent of the Blue World Order.

Yes. Yeah, it's like double sided though, right?

Yeah.

The boo word order.

The boo.

We are blue world order.

10 minutes.

It's a video game.

Yeah, no, that's. Anytime when he does that, I always think of South Park. You know, the. The Mongolian beef guy.

That was my attempt. You get it?

No, I thought you had a heart attack.

Okay, fine. All right, Rick, continue on.

Oh, no. So there will be not. No way you're going to hear it soon enough. But there's a promo where you get to meet the. There's two teams that are coming in from Michinoku Pro to be on the April 13th barely legal show. And. And also they wrestle some matches around the. The circuit as well. Before that. And I didn't need all that. The heel team ends up being the Blue World Orders Japan contingent. And. And we know of at least one guy on that land storm.

Come on.

Oh, yeah. Also, you know, from Calgary, Alberta, Canada.

Sound like Dave Meltzer right now.

Yeah, you make me sound like Lance.

You are the Lance of the podcast. We know that. Oh, yeah. Here we go. Here we go. This is gonna be fun. One.

Yeah.

All right, so, yes, we got some debuts. We got Michinoku's, we get some Japanese, we got some Taiwanese, we got Wawa Wa's, and we got some Latent Storms. We got some Canadians. Yeah. So we got all that. And also we're going back to Revere, Mass. So I'm looking forward to that. We're going back to the scene of the crime, right? Wonderland.

Wonderland Dog Park.

My dad brought me there when I was a little kid. I was like, what the am I doing here? He was gambling.

Yeah.

Place for a young boy, I thought.

I was like, oh, this is cool. I was like, oh, in hindsight, yeah. He was just gambling and had to bring me.

Yeah, it was. Nevermind.

All right, so let's get this popping and going here. Everybody got their ready?

Yes, sir.

Yes, sir.

We are watching this on the Internet archive if you're gonna watch along with us and if you are gonna do that. It's WCE Softcore TV 1997. I feel like even when I type this into my computer, I feel like I'm searching porn, which the only way I do that is on my phone, but never my computer. And I think everybody would agree with that. But yes, here we are. It's easy to be hardcore TV. Episode 199 from February 11, 1997 in Peacock version, it's season five, episode seven. We got a run time of 57 minutes, 32 seconds. We got matches from Crossing the Line, which is what we had on the previous episode. And we're gonna get some of the final matches here. This was from February 1st, 1997 at the ECW Arena. I'll give Countdown, as always, three down to one. When I say play, we will all click. Play. Three, two, one, play. All right, we got Tommy, so let's lay out his on Sunday night, April 13th.

Can you imagine just how extreme I'm going to be?

That's it. He had 10 seconds.

That was a terrible promo.

Yeah, it was. What the hell was that?

What the hell is that? Who says that? Is that like mo. A crusted clown?

Oh, I don't.

What the hell is that? That's definitely Crusty the Clown.

Now that you say that, I think you're right.

Yeah.

What the hell is that?

That almost sounded like Marge. Well, whatever. I can't do a better crusty. So you're fine.

Yeah. We're not. It's not a sound off. I know all my impressions suck, so it's fine. It's part of the show.

It's your gimmick. Yeah.

And everybody's like, what the hell was that?

Bad impressions and not knowing the words but singing along anyways.

Yes. That's my gimmick. Shitty singing, sucking. Yeah. Everything is Mike Pru's gimmick.

That's not true.

Yes. I hope I don't suck at everything.

Here's the panty shot.

Oh. Oh, yes. This was a classic. What was this, 1995?

Yep.

Oh, yeah. I love the ball sack too. That's the best part.

The ball sack with the mushroom head.

Yeah. Makes everybody feel good about their balls. Or makes everybody think I'm not wearing like that ever.

Yep. Where's your cup? Where's your cup?

Get bigger T shirts. Get bigger T shirts.

Yeah.

Wear black. Wear black.

Then he. He does the Hulk Hogan.

Yeah.

Listen, listen. In ear thing. Chair shot heard around the world.

All right, so Rick.

Yeah.

At this point, where's Tommy Dreamer stand as an all time ECW wrestler? You mean like video packages highlighting everything? But what do you think in terms.

Of like, where we are in 1997 or just exactly? Okay. I. I think it's one of those things where he's high on the list, but it's mainly because he's been there for so long, he's never really left and he's kind of earned the fans respect because if you remember the beginning, he was a pretty boy, Chippendales kind of, you know, guy. And they would just boo the ever loving out of him. And then they, they kind of realized that well hey, this, this guy could take an ass kicking. And you know, so they, they, they kind of begrudgingly started to respect him. So I think by this point they were kind of like, he's like the hometown hero, you know.

Yeah, right, right.

Yeah. Which is why he's in. Well, he's going to be in a program for the pay per view.

Oh, for sure.

Yeah.

Right, yeah. Nothing against them. No, definitely home grown talent basically and.

Right.

Underachiever that exploded.

Yeah. And I mean like, like this segment right here, this. Yes, this is amazing. You know this whole segment where he comes out beats the shit out of Raven.

Yeah, I love it.

Yeah, the crowd, the crowd was eaten out of the palm of his hand at that point.

And just seeing that right there, this is why I brought it up, it's like, makes you wonder like Tommy Dream was so beloved by everybody and all of a sudden Raven comes in and everyone wants to suck Raven's dick and be, oh, he's, he's the best ever. Tommy Dream is better than Raven. I, I don't know jv, are you on my side? Because we thought Raven sucks basically at this point.

Yeah, he does suck.

And Tommy is better.

Better.

I don't know, I don't think he's a lot better.

No, I don't think he's a better.

Yeah, he's definitely like, his character is better. He's cool.

Raven, Raven versus Tommy Drift is not about wrestling. They both suck.

The Raven, things just played out. It never really evolves into anything. At least it hasn't yet evolved to anything.

Right, right. And I think the thing is like I, I, I don't want to speak for, for you guys, but like when I was watching this as an 1112 year old boy, Raven was cool because he's not like, I don't say normal, but he's like a normal guy. Like, you know, he's like the cool, like edgy dude, you know, was something different from wrestling. But then seeing it as an adult, you're like, he's a whiny bitch.

Right?

It's just, it's seeing it through separate eyes. You kind of like in the same way that somebody that you might have watched when you were, you know, 9, 10, 11, whatever, and you go, oh, he's, he sucks. But then you go back and you, oh, hello.

Oh, all right. All Right, Rick? And great thoughts, but she's gonna be illegal. Okay. All right. Yeah, go ahead, Rick.

No, but yeah, somebody that you might have been watching when you were like a kid and you're like, oh, this guy sucks. Like, he's. Boo. You know, whatever. But then you gotta watch him as an adult and you get this appreciation of like, yeah, he's not, you know, out there, you know, a world beater type of, you know, like, super talented guy. But, like, it's the stuff that he does. Like Arne Anderson. I know Arn Anderson's kind of a point of contention. I hated. I hated Arne Anderson when, you know, when I was like, seven, eight, when he was in the. The Dangerous Alliance. But now looking back, I'm like, this dude didn't do. He wasn't all over the place. He wasn't doing all kinds of crazy. But, like, the little things that he would do, the little looks that he would give, that made it so much better. So it's kind of the reverse where Raven. Raven's just shitty.

Yeah, you're right, though, like. Because some people could think like, oh, Raven, he hit a nerve with me at the time. And that's why I like him. Right? Because. Because they were that way. They were loners. But there were also people at the time that thought, hey, Raven's a.

Like, I think that's what it is too. Like, 20 years later, 30 years later, now we're like, raven sucks. He was. To the time. So he was cool then because that was like, that was a thing.

Right?

So we're staying at. Now, like, oh, like me, for instance, or jv. Oh, Ravens was a. There's gonna be people, like, at the time that were watching ECW, like 25, 30 years old. Like, oh, Fraven. He's a. That's why. That's. That's why he has Stevie Richards out there helping him out. Blue Meanie, this guy's a loser. Complaining all the time and he has these funkies helping him out. But when we're 13, 14 years old. But, oh, yeah, he's relating to me because I'm a.

Offspring, like, right. I love the Offspring.

I'm gonna lose them too. Like him, right? You know.

Up Cruise boy.

And that's the great part about wrestling is it just changes over time or anything. If you watch a movie, you read a book, it just changes as you age.

Yeah, yeah. And certain. Certain things. Certain things that you enjoyed about a movie or a book or whatever as a kid, you go, what?

As an adult, experience it different yeah, like, I. My favorite movie ever is Back to the Future. And I've gone through many times watching it, and I learned something new every time or just think something different every time. And that's the way good things are or anything that you consume should be. But yeah, I like to see. Whoa.

Oops.

What happened?

What happened? What happened to you?

Did he get pinned? Yeah, I get pinned.

Yeah, he. I think he gets pinned, all right.

Because they hyped. Oh, he hasn't been pinned in years. Yeah, we get. I'm pretty sure he got Johnny, like.

And they cut away my boy Raven.

Yeah. And JV said, yeah, they cut away, like, barely after the three cone.

Right.

That was probably part of his deal. Oh, you're gonna make it look like I almost didn't get pinned.

Well, that's kind of like what.

Pin me guy.

Yeah. Around this. Around this time, WCW kind of pull. Had to pull something like that too, with the US Title. They had given it to Kinsuki Sasaki. And I think he. I think he was with New Japan at that point. Well, I think he's with New Japan. Yeah. And they didn't want him to lose on tv, so they had the One Man Gang beat him. And then they said, oh, no, like, his foot was on the rope or whatever. And they kept it going and had Kensuke Sasaki win. But then when they aired the match, they just aired it after with One Man Gang pinning him and then cut away. So One Man Gang wins the US Title. But they didn't show Kintsuki Sasaki losing it. Like, they showed him losing it on tv. But then they had. They had footage of him not losing it. So, you know, it's one of those sneaky carny type things that you see in wrestling.

Typical.

Because wcw.

All right. Oh, I'm hearing Paulie's voice right now. And, hey, Paulie's getting inducted to the hall of Fame tonight.

Yes.

He is recording this probably while we're.

I was gonna say it might be happening right now.

Yeah, it could be soon. It's 10:30 at this point. 10:28. Hall of Fame probably starts what, 11:00 o' clock?

Actually, no, I don't know. They usually start right down. So it's probably starting, right? Yeah.

Turn my TV back on.

Do we know Rick Rude?

Look at Rick Rude's outfit. What the is this? Did he not talk about the outfit?

No, we didn't.

Wow. We were just like, Rick Rude, we love you. But look at that gene amalgamation there.

Denim, button down.

That's a gene. Menagerie right there.

Is he connect? Is he. Is he Canadian?

He's from Minnesota.

From Minnesota. Close enough.

Yeah.

They have nothing against Canadians, but apparently they're known for their denim.

Yeah, the Canadian tuxedo.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Is that really. Oh, look at that ass. There we go. Oh, smack it right now. What I want from you is all your Francine fatty asses to sit down and let me bend you over. I talked about whatever. Hi, Joey. Joey in the house.

Hey, jv, do you. Did you ever have that tie?

That tie? No.

D.C. d.C. Tie. He's gonna do something cool, though.

Yeah.

Something like that. They were just playing K. I do want to point out that we did play Kiss back to back weeks. We're done playing that song.

Yes.

That was the name of the song, right?

Tears are Falling, Tears are Fun. Yep.

It did grow on me, though. Desperado.

Here he comes.

This just reminds. This problem just reminds me of Seinfeld at this point now.

It's my song.

It's my song. What was the other song?

I know we talk about this, but what Elaine song.

Elaine song.

It was witchy woman, wasn't it?

What's you. Yeah. I love seeing Terry Funk on tv. Yep. Tommy Rich. Somebody said something about getting dick suck.

Is a battle of two former NWA World Heavyweight Champions.

How do my fallen wrestling hall. Yeah.

As a sweaty bingo hall when it comes down to it in the bad side of town.

Hey, we on pay per view.

Is there a good side of town in this town?

Probably not in Philadelphia.

Speaking of WrestleMania.

Yep.

Wasn't Philly rough in the 90s?

Oh, definitely.

Oh, yeah, I'm sure.

And what Philly has is a great center for their sports.

If I wasn't a Boston fan didn't exist, I'd probably be a Philly Philadelphia fan.

Oh, yeah.

Philadelphia sports fan.

I would too. I think. So I went down to Philly great sports complex. All the stadiums are right next to each other. They even have a bar that has like. Like a complex where it's like 10 bars in one where if you go into the Phillies game, you go there. It's. It's great. And it's like outside of town. Like, it's not in the city. It's kind of like a little bit away. You don't have to pay for parking because all the lots are pretty much all paid for. Like.

Good.

I recommend going there. Ladies, gentlemen in the back. Oh, JV was doing an impression of one of our favorite teachers.

Did we just bring him up last episode too?

I don't Know. Rick, do you remember Mr. Govin?

It sounds familiar.

He fought. He trained with Mike Tyson, by the way.

Oh, did he? Yeah, up in the Catskills.

No, no, no, for the Olympics.

Oh, okay. Nice, man.

I guess we didn't.

No, you didn't. Then. That's.

There was.

There was a teacher that was referenced on the last episode that. The name escapes me, but it was some. Something about.

It was him. It was Pavlov's dog.

That's right. Yeah.

All right. Yeah. Pavlov, ladies and gentlemen, Pavlov's Dogs.

Yeah. You guys didn't mention the. The Olympic training, though.

Yeah, you probably should.

Well, JB switched up and said, excuse me, people in the back. We're not Padlov's dogs. We don't run up the sum of the bill. Excuse me. The gentleman's in the back. I up Mike Tyson before, so don't with me what he's got.

He's fighting. He's so old. He has to sit down and fight.

No, what I. What I. Terrible cut. They had a terrible cut. Like they were standing there. He rolls Tommy Rich into the ring, and then it cuts to him standing over him with the chair, like.

Yeah. Despite our Mr. Govin going. There's a good match here.

What did he teach as a chair? History.

He's history. Okay. I had a. What. What grade was it?

All four. He's a floater.

Oh, I had.

I had him in ninth grade, but he was brand new. As what I had him.

Like, I had a sophomore and senior year, I think.

Yeah. He's talking about. He's great. When I first started teaching and I subbed there, he. He was great. Talked to him all the time. I used to see him at the gym all the time. General fitness. JV. Did you ever see Mr. Golfing It? Oh, yeah, yeah. Awesome guy.

So good. My. My. Fresh.

I feel bad, like, saying the jokes that we do, but I feel like it's in good nature because I love the dude. It's cool.

Yeah, yeah. You're not. You're not on him.

You're.

You're. You're paying homage to him.

Oh, it's a big clothesline.

Yeah, it was. It's a big man. Crowd was chanting, you fat? At him. So.

Not a guy.

You want to with the Funkster. Don't. With the Funk.

I want to with Tommy Rich.

I would.

Yeah, you would. Rick, you're gonna expound on something.

Oh, no, I was just gonna say my. My freshman year history teacher shout out to Mr. Anderson. He was like the Cool teacher, you know, like, he. He'd say outlandish stuff. Not nothing completely inappropriate, but he'd, like, toe the line a little bit, you know, like we were. We were learning, like, ancient world history. So he would. He'd be talking about, like, the city states of, you know, the Holy Roman Empire, and. But he'd say the shitty states, and he'd pretend it was. Well, he'd pretend it was because. Because he was from Revere. So he. Like, that's how he says it, you know, it's his accent. One of the. One of the highlights of the year was like, the last, we'll say, last week of school or whatever. Yeah.

Somebody says something about giving up a spinning toehold.

Yeah.

Bloody. Bloody Funkster. Oh, he gets the win. But, Rick. Yeah. I'm more interested in your story. That was a good match. Well, right.

Oh, no, that was a pretty good match. There's a lot of weird edits in it, but yeah. So the last. The last week of school, you know, they kind of just off or whatever. And he had mentioned earlier in the year that he was on Family Feud back in the day. And so he brought the tape in to show us him and his. His buddies who. He said they were all family. Hang on.

He has passed his prime. Got both of his shoulders knocked down and two bad knees, and he kind of walked around in his stoop, you know. But in 1967, he was in a national finals rodeo, and he drew up a bull, and that bull's name was Tornado. And old Freckles Brown crawled on old Tornado. And old Tornado had thrown a lot of good cowboys off. Big Freckles. Freckles Brown. He wrote him for that 8 seconds till that buzzer rang. Afterwards, they asked him, said, freckles, how did you do that? Freckles says, every dog has his day. And that's the same way that I feel. I feel this dog wants to have his day. I want to have my day in the ring with the ECW World's Champion raven. You see, you want to go after this champion. There is wonderful things and are always. When they're. They're Freckles Brown. Who's Freckles Brown?

And the horse that's a cowboy, apparently.

Because Brown was the cowboy. I can give my family. He said, eight seconds. Eight seconds is like the riding on a bull.

Daughter. Yeah, that's what he's talking about of myself.

I can give my wife a memory. I can give. Then he said, oh, I. I talked to Freckles br. After that. You talked To a bull?

No, he talked to a cowboy. There was a, there was a hall of fame. I'm looking this up. A hall of fame cowboy. He was Warren G. Freckles Brown.

All right, Rick looked it up. He wrote eight seconds. Is that the Luke Perry movie or whatever? The who? Who played the actor?

That was, that was, that was. The Luke Perry movie was called 8 Seconds. Yes. Says. Yeah, go ahead.

I don't know my. I don't know my. Okay.

Brown's remembered for riding an unrideable bull named Tornado in December 1967. The bull owned by Jim. The owner of the bull was named Jim Shoulders. Yeah. The bull owned by Jim Shoulders had thrown over 200 riders over a 14 year period before Brown successfully wrote it and was considered the ultimate challenge on the bull riding circuit. But Brown stayed on for the. The eight seconds required in front of two. Sorry, 6,000 people. Tornado died in 1972 as unwritten by 220 professional riders, except for Brown and two others. So basically, out of 220 riders of this bull, this guy freckles Brown and two other guys are the only ones that could ever last eight seconds on him.

How many people could last eight seconds on Kimono on Alaya? But the great information there.

Yeah. So getting back to my story real quick. Well, I want to finish it, you know, in suspense. So him, him and a couple of, well, however many people are on Family Feud, like five people. So him and like four of his buddies were on the Ray Combs version of Family Feud in the early to mid-90s. And so we just watched, we got to watch that in history class, you know, whatever. And he spent the entire time making fun of all of his buddies. It was amazing.

Just like roasting them.

Yeah, like, well, well, one, one of them. He had like all kinds of like acne pock marks and stuff. And he goes, yeah, you see, see my buddy Sully there? He, he, he had a side gig renting his face out to be a dartboard. It was awesome. He was like. I said, he's just roasting his buddies. It was, it was so fun. But he was like, yeah, he was a cool teacher. And then he moved down to Florida. Like my. So at the end of my sophomore year, he left.

So probably a reason.

Oh, there definitely was a reason. But they're not going to tell us, you know. Right, yeah, he came, he did, he did come back, like to visit. So I don't think it was like he was asked to, to leave and never return, but. But there definitely was some sort of A reason for him to just randomly move to Florida. You know, we're seeing the formation of the Dudley Boys as everybody knows them. And now the Dudleys just looked at.

Each other like, are we best friends?

We just become best friends, right?

Yeah, in the garage.

And now you got the gangsters out.

There with the gangsters.

It's a gaga gonna you up, hit.

You in the ass with a candlestick, whatever the they got today.

Yeah, but they come down with ah same.

Basically. It's always the same.

Oh, man, New J just doesn't give a.

My name's Duj.

Know what I like? I like how New Jack gets humbled by Big Bubba. You know Bubble right here to. I'm gonna you up. Oh, let's lay out for this. I want to hear this. We traveled up to the east side, couldn't find ya. Ain't that right, Devon? Testify. We traveled up to the west side, couldn't find you. Ain't that right, Devon? Amen. We even traveled up to the north side. Y' all can't afford the north side, didn't find ya. Tell em about it, Devon. Nowhere to be found now. We down here on the south side. Once again, no gangsters to be found. Tell them, Devon. No gangsters. But you know what? I know why we can't find the gangsters. You ain't nothing.

I was just thinking the same thing. Cowards.

Pussies.

Hallelujah.

He's been speak, coward. He's been healed. But gangsters, you won't be healed when the Deadly boys get a hold of your ass. We're all the way live with Joey Styles right now. Urgent Cyber Slim 97. It's available. We're not. We're not doing a super show on it. We gotta run through some hardcore TVs to get to the barely legal pay per view Sunday night, April 13, one.

Week before everybody else.

Oh, let me just say this now guys, know what we're gonna do next episode?

No, tell me.

We're going to watch Monday night raw from February 24, 1997.

Oh, yeah.

That's the night that ECW is invaded. Monday Night Raw.

I like that.

So we'll watch that and then we'll watch an ECW episode after that. But there's a bunch of ECW matches in wwf. Yeah, we're gonna watch it.

The production values are a lot higher too.

Yeah, I guess.

I mean, comparatively.

You're right. Who's that stinking in my window? Why is this like the longest episode ever?

Yeah, we're only at like we're like halfway through 30 minutes.

What the. Who's that creeping in my window? I don't know. Oh, we got Lance arm coming up here. Lance on versus the balls.

Yeah, balls.

Mahoney, Bradley, two newcomers. I remember when I was a newcomer. Haven't stopped. Look at the rat tail.

I was just gonna say rat.

Fluorescent rot rat tail.

Yeah. And balls. With his ripped pants and his slight, slightly. Slightly homoerotic gloves.

I didn't see the gloves. I guess you could say anything somewhere erotic about his outfit.

Well, no, I. Part of his gimmick was it was kind of supposed to be like, gay, I guess.

Was he?

Yeah. Oh, it was like. Yeah, it was one of those, like, subtle, but subtle but not subtle at the same time, you know, like he calls Mahoney and he kind of dresses like. Like a bear, you know?

Yeah, I didn't get that.

I. I only got. I only got it when I read it somewhere. But also, you know, it might have been. It might have been a you had to be there kind of moment.

He educated me on that. I wasn't thinking that.

All right, same here.

But I could totally see it now. Well, because of his character that it becomes. I never thought, oh, right, he's that. Or even prior to this one is Boo Bradley. But it was Boo Bradley. He was basically a dog on a leash.

Yeah, he was supposed to be like a dimwit.

Right. So at this point, it's supposed to be just like a gay fucking tough guy.

Yeah, basically like he goes wrong with.

A gay fucking tough guy. That's cool.

He hangs out at the Blue Oyster Club or whatever it was in Police Academy. Talk about a movie that hasn't. What do you call it? Hasn't. Hasn't aged well.

Most movies from that point haven't aged well. Imagine doing a podcast covering Police Academy.

I'd love that.

I would.

Don't want to do it, but. No, I would probably end up enjoying it. I love Police Academy. You don't like Police Academy?

I love Police.

Oh, no, I didn't say I don't love it. It's just a lot of the stuff in that would not fly.

Oh, no. It holds up well in my mind.

That's what I said. Imagine doing like a live watch along of Police Academy. It'd be fun.

Oh, it would be the best showing.

Oh, nice. Nice move by Balls. What the. This is Lance Storm. Get some moves in here.

Picking him up by the rat tail.

That's. I should have looked into this, but is there any previous interaction between these Two prior to this. Lance and Balls.

Not that I'm aware of, but I can.

Oh, that's a good splash from Balls. It doesn't even want to go for a pin. Oh, yeah, they must have met up in Smokey.

I mean, they would have been in Smokey roughly at the same time, but I don't know that Balls. Well, you know, Booblat Bradley or whatever was tagging against the Thrill Seekers.

All Thrill Seekers were done by the time Balls came in. Yeah, because he basically replaced.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That move was a. A Lance Storm original. Not original, but like a cliche Lance Storm move where he jumps no hands to the top rope and comes back with a elbow.

No.

Handspring elbow. Oh, no clothesline.

Yeah, that looks stupid. Yeah, it did look like. Like John Cena when he was trying to bring out that ninja move that he did. Yeah, you remember that? The Fist of Fire. The what the. It was called like, was in a video game with his fucking bald head.

Yeah, like he was Goku or something.

He's going Super Saiyan.

I just looked it up. It was the Lightning Fist. Yeah, there's a whole compilation.

Watch that compilation, David.

You'll die laughing.

It sucks.

Watch it.

Because he like. Like I. I've seen that. It shows like house show matches and that he did sucks.

I'm gonna get the kids hype. I'm just gonna steal Japanese anime for a fatigues.

Hey, did you ever watch K Kaniki, Whatever the it's called?

Yeah, it's hilarious.

Yeah, I thought so too. Is that the movie?

Ricky Stanicky.

Ricky Stanicky. I said Kiki like it's Grease. All right, let's listen to our favorite guy. We like to on I like promos.

So you see, it's a vicious, twisted little thing that rumbles in the night, then giggles to itself. It can tear a family apart. It can drive a man insane. And for no particular reason. It's called fate. And if fate puts you and I together, Terry Funk, every dog will not have his day. You talk about how your dad died in your arms. I wish my dad would have died in my. My arms and I would had a much happier childhood. Every dog does not have its day, Terry Funk. Not in my world. I am the ECW World Heavyweight Champion for one particular reason. Because no one can beat me. And certainly not you. Quilter. Raven. Nevermore.

Boring. So I did research. While Raven was just lulling us to sleep, Lance Storm and Boo Bradley did have a couple of matches in Smoky Mountain.

Yeah, I figured they would. Was it.

Yeah. August of 94. They faced off for the Beat the Champ TV title a couple times and they were on a couple of house shows, but basically they did Boo Bradley also wrestled one of one of our favorite ECW alums, Lukewarm Chad Austin.

Yeah. There we go. Nice.

Of the league. Friday night, March 7th, we will be in Kin, Pennsylvania, just down the road. Say that five times fast.

Yeah. Don't ask me to say it again. Cyo. What's that mean?

Catholic Youth Organization. Hope to see you in trouble.

He used a lot of cyber slam fonts with this. I like that side eye. That's a bombastic side eye.

Yeah, he. He almost wrapped his eyes all the way into the back of his head. That was a deep side eye.

I want those BWO shots.

Buy the shirt.

Buy the shirt. Come buy the shirt. Oh, we gotta get the new Savu shirt. Right.

Signature TV shirt now available in Excel and large. Sorry for you fat Sabu fans. You can't own the shirt.

You gotta pay $5 more for the exercise.

Yeah, they still do that. If you want like a double X or higher, you have to pay, like.

Five bucks extra some places.

Really? Yeah.

Yep. I think WWE does it.

Do they discriminate? Yeah.

It's like, I'm glad I don't need that.

Fat people, stand up. Defend yourself, protect your people. Like, let me get that DC tie. Be $8 more because it's the size of a living room curtain.

Yeah.

Yeah.

All right. I'm going to the bathroom. It's.

Can't hold it.

Looking at the time, it's like it's 40 minutes.

Take a piss.

I haven't talked like, 10 minutes.

I watched the show. Joey style was talking. I've never seen this before.

All right, I'm gonna bring my computer into the toilet then.

No, don't do that. Just go.

All right, thanks. Like to missing more. What. What's the song? You're All I need. You know what it is? This is like P. Diddy comes on this song.

So I gotta mute for a second.

Oh, yeah, you gotta do what I gotta do, too. It's Mary J. Blige. You're all I need in my life to get by.

I like your description. It's P. Diddy. Comes during the song.

Well, Pete Diddy is loving Mary J. Blige and.

Right.

He's all over the place now. I'm coming everywhere. He's the new Vince McMahon.

Yeah.

Of the week. P. Diddy in the fam who, you know, did it better. What a creep. I can't say his cream. We sucked anyway.

Allegedly.

Allegedly.

Yep.

Allegedly a weirdo.

Yes.

Not for real.

Not for real.

All.

It's all alleged videos for our music video, baby.

How can you say that? And you don't even know P. Diddy. You don't know about P. Diddy. You didn't know the. You know nothing about the guy that changed his name million times like Puff Daddy and P. Diddy. It's John Combs. He. Diddy Combs. Puff comies.

Such a sweet bad.

You don't know him. You don't know what he's been through.

Yeah, you don't know.

He became popular after the death of Biggie Smalls. He meant before that. Nobody knew who he was. Yeah, P. Diddy killed Biggie Smalls, dog.

You killed him.

Mace was getting too big. That's why Mace got misplaced.

That's why he went to. Back to the church. It's like, I'm gonna be a pedophile. I'm gonna go.

Wow.

Just kidding.

That was a good line. I like it.

No, I liked it.

Yeah, that's good.

Go to the source.

Sometimes when we laugh, doesn't mean you're out of line. Just. Ah, that's good. All right, we got sad. I'm looking creepy here. We turned up with Raw Van Damme. All right, so like, I said, I was gonna go piss, but I had to stick around for that. Funny. But yeah, I do really need to piss, so I'm. I'll be back.

Get out of here.

I'm out of here.

Meanwhile, get rv, rvd. Singlet looks like it's made up of steel plates. Yeah, he's. He's got the. The crotch highlighted. Like it's like a, you know, welded on cup.

Mike's gonna leave his mic on. We're gonna hear through his phone. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

Yeah.

He'S like whistling to himself while he's taking a piss.

Oh, standoff here.

Yep.

I just screamed very loud in the backgrounds. Bombs trying to get in his head. Playing mind games, minds paying tricks on him. Oh, look at this. He's so athletic.

Yeah, he is. Yeah. And then he goes, woohoo.

That's probably the most impressive thing I've seen in ECW is how great, like how athletic Kronos is.

Yeah, he. He really is athletic. And especially when, you know, he's like legit. Like he's £300 and he's like 63 or something. Like, you shouldn't expect a guy that size to be that athletic. Oh, didn't hook the Leg there. You're not going to pin somebody like Rob Van Damel at hooking the leg trying to win? Yeah, no. Oh, that was a vicious clothesline.

2. Just the two.

Sabu's just kind of chilling outside the ring. Not, not really doing much.

Oh.

What is that like a double armed face buster?

Yeah, yeah. It's almost like a, almost like a pedigree but not many bows. Thank you. Thank you. Chronic is just like you, you prick. I love how they're the eliminators have matching gear and that it's the same colors and they have their names across the backs of the trunks, you know.

Yeah, yeah.

Like it, it, it looks good. Like you know, it makes them look like an actual team that they their gear matches and everything. Whereas RVD and Sabu don't. Oh.

Nope.

He didn't give a no. Then Saturn didn't either.

Yeah, it's like you.

What a leg drop from the top there?

Yep.

Am I on the same pace with you guys?

Yep. Well you might be a couple seconds behind, but yeah, you're a couple.

I think he's ahead or my boss Corona's coming off.

Oh yeah.

Oh no, no, that's splash instead. Like he's not doing a leg drop again. Right.

Did I miss anything spectacular?

Not really. Cronus. Cronus did a nice little athletic like he jumped in and then did like a front handspring and stuff.

Okay.

But no, but I mean nothing really like amazing. A couple of stiff clotheslines from Saturn.

All right, so this is. I didn't mention this earlier. Should have but these are more matches. Actually I did. These are more matches from the crossing the line again show. Whatever the that means. Crossing the line again.

Well in 94 they had the night the line was crossed some. Right, that's what I'm assuming they're referencing.

But yes, that is the reference point. Doing it again.

But I don't, I don't know what, what line was crossed again, you know.

Right. Crossing the line again. I think it was just like Terry Funk was back.

Yeah.

That'S the reference.

There you go. Jv. More cursing.

Yeah, they're. They got dirty mouths. They need soap.

Yeah, well no, while, while we were watching us and somebody in the crowd was like him up or something.

Yeah.

And it was. And it was super loud.

It was like when everything else was quiet. Yeah, they're just like him up Larry Bird jersey in the crowd.

Oh yeah, we see that to the.

Right side like second first or second like where Cronus.

Like where they are right there.

Yeah.

Y32.

No, Celtics would be a basketball jersey, not a football jersey.

What the. Is this something? That's what I saw. All right, Thanks, J.

You're welcome.

Oh, right there. I see it. Oh, 33. Yeah, yeah, I. I saw it very briefly. It's right there, J. You'll see him right there.

Please. All right. Please pull out the telestrader that you have.

Yeah.

So I can see this. We're so good at doing live audio commentary for viewers that are not watching this.

He's right there. Look.

Oh, there he is. Oh, yeah, it's bwo.

But next to the bwo, the guy's got on a Larry Bird jersey.

No, it's orange.

No, other side of them.

I don't see it.

Right there. He's in. He's in the front row. He's got, like, a blue T shirt on under the. The jersey. It's the green Celtics jersey. Of course they're not gonna see it now.

What's the timestamp? I'm 51. 20. 21.

Yep. You're dead on with me.

Yeah, you're dead on.

What the. Maybe my screen's cut off.

Maybe.

Hey, maybe not. All right. What's Rob Van Dam doing right now? Sucking day.

All right, the top rope.

Sabu just got pushed off the top rope.

I saw that. I didn't see no Celtics jersey, though.

The guys on that side.

Yeah, he just. He's got to be sitting down. Yeah, that's what it is.

All right. Not that important.

No.

Rob Van Damme is slowly going to the balls. Yeah, that was some weak. We got a real, real ladder. A painter's ladder, if you will. Pop that thing off. Put the can on there.

It's been years.

It's probably the ladder Butchie uses to.

His leg. Almost got caught in the run.

Yeah, it did.

But she.

Yep. It's been a couple weeks since I threw in a Butchie reference.

Yeah, it's been a while since Butchy. Been a long time since Uncle Rick.

Yeah, I know. He's in WCW still at this point.

He wasn't a WCW guy.

No. Test area. Yeah.

Look at this. Insert one. Who's the ref? B.

That's. That's Finnegan.

Nope, you're right. Scoop of the slam. What are you posing for? Get the offense.

They did total elimination to the ladder.

That's awesome. God, that was great.

ECW.

Crowd loved it.

Yeah.

What was Sabu think? That's why Sabu sucks. Oh, you point my finger, you got up. You almost eliminated the Eliminators, and you're up opponent. Oh, boy. Oh, this is not good. We got this.

This is contrived.

Yeah, really.

But I love it.

We got a table with a ladder on top with a chair set up. Saturn is climbing up a ladder that's on a table. Cronus is holding it. That gives Sabu plenty of times to just run around, do a little shitty little kick like any nine year old could do. And now they fall off. And then Rob Van Damme says, hey, Saturn, hold this chair for me for a second. Let me kick you in the head with it. You want to talk about worst moves of all time? That's the worst move of all time.

What? The Van Daminator.

Just throw in a chair in someone's. Oh, catch it. No, like after, you know, he already does that. You don't catch it anymore. You just take it in your head. I don't know. Am I wrong?

No, you're not wrong.

Eliminate his win. As they should with that. Great belts.

Yep.

Very good belts with their IC championship belts because they're no way in cahoots with WWE this time.

Then we. We cut to Taz. Yeah.

Has there. He's rocking his sweatpants transmission. Choke the out of Rob Van Dam right there.

He's spitting his face.

Wow. Oh, I love. I love when Bill just bounces off.

The ropes like that. Yep, yep. It makes no sense why he does that, but it's awesome.

It's great. When I see him doing that, it's like I can picture like. Like just imagine just knowing him backstage and like talking to him like, all right, yeah, we're gonna do this thing, all right? And then you get in the ring and you're just bouncing off the ropes. It's like this dude went into character.

Oh, yeah.

Like. And that's what I appreciate about it. He went into character because that is not something that he told people he's gonna do. He just went off and did it is building up. Yeah. Jv, did you take a nap?

My bad. I hit the mute button.

What were you talking about? You talking about anything?

Nothing, I was just listening to you guys.

Oh, that's pretty good. How were we? Was it good?

Yeah, I was listening.

All right, so that wraps up that episode of ECW Hardcore TV. And it was covering Crossing Line from February 1, 1997. And yeah, there was some pretty wild there. Terry Funk, it's Tommy Rich. Somebody said something about blood. Damn. Terry Funk got busted open there. We got Tommy Dreamy cutting a shitty ass promo. Bueller showing some nice ass titties as always. And Dudley Boys going at it, being the boys. Finally, the Dudley Boys, which people think of D. Von and Bubba. And Bubba. I don't know what Bubba's doing. He think he's dancing. He thinks he's funny. Then we had balls. Who? Rick educated us that he's the first gay wrestler. I guess I know. No, I don't mean that.

But okay, all right.

Yeah. I didn't know he was supposed to be like that stereotype. If anything, I had no clue that Balls, Mahoney. I just thought I was like, I got big balls. You got big balls. We got the biggest balls of them all. All right, that's our. That's our break song. There we go. Balls. Yeah, there we go. That's easy enough. And I can move away from talking about that. Yeah. So, yeah, that was fun. Raven cut a promo and man, whoever thought we would be on Raven for the past two years about Raven, why does he suck?

Hey, Raven, why do you suck? Why can't we get into you?

I guess we're just too old for you. That's what we were talking about.

Stop sucking.

And then we had tag team match the eliminated sources of Robbie Dame and Saboon. My first thought was, oh, that's gonna be great. Ah, again, mediocre. Because Sabu is just mediocre. And he brings everybody down because he always up and. And everybody has to adjust to his. So, yeah, that's what we watched. And take a listen to ACDC balls. Biggest balls of them all. Whatever the. And we'll be right back. So enjoy.

Well, I'm upper, upper class high society God's gift to ballroom notoriety and I always fill my ballroom the event is never small the social pages say I've got the biggest balls of all I've got big balls I've got big balls.

I've such big balls and I've got.

His big balls and he's got big balls and she's got got big balls.

But we've got the biggest ball and.

My balls are always bouncing and my ballroom always full and everybody comes and comes again if your name is on the guest list no one can take you higher Everybody says I've got great balls of fire I've got big balls Balls oh, I've got big balls Such big balls Dirty big balls and he's got big balls and she's got big balls but he's got the big ass.

Balls on the ball Some balls are.

Held for charity and some for fancy dress but when they're held for pleasure they're the Balls that I like best. My balls are always bouncing to the left and to the right. It's my belief that my big ball.

Should be held overnight.

We've got big balls. We've got big balls.

We've got big balls.

Dirty big balls. He's got big balls. She's got big balls.

And we've got the biggest. Got them all. We got paintball. We got paintball.

And I'm just itching to tell you about them. And we have this wonderful, fun seafood cocktail.

Crabs, gray fish. All right, we're back now for the next episode of ECW hardcore TV. And we are covering ECW hardcore TV episode 200. 200 episodes of ECW hardcore TV. That's crazy to believe that there's been 200 episodes. That's a lot.

Holy.

From 93 up to here, now in 97. 200 episodes. Damn. Yeah, I'm lost for words just like everybody else is. But we're gonna cover it. It's February 18, 1997, and if you're checking this out on Peacock, it's season five, episode eight. Eight. We got a run time of 57 minutes and 34 seconds. And we're watching this on the Internet Archive so we can get the real music, the real feel of ECW hardcore TV. 200. Guess what? Most of this episode is going to take place in Revere, Massachusetts. Right off our alley, our neighborhood. The people that speak like we speak. The people that bleed like we bleed.

Revere.

Guy.

Hey, you're gonna it over Revere. It's funny how we become own. Our own caricatures of how we speak. We make fun of how we speak. We just exaggerate it.

Pretty much how it works.

Yeah. All right, so, yes, we are here at Revere and now we're continuing to build to fucking. The latest attraction that has been presented. It's barely legal, the pay per views coming up in April, and they're starting to hype it up. And we're gonna see more of that here, so let's get right into it. I know you guys are ready. I'll ask anyway. Just get everybody else ready. Ready to go countdown ready. All right, I'll give a countdown. Three down to one, then say play. When I say play, we all click play. And again, this is Internet Archive, so if you're listening, please join us on that. Here we go. Three, two, one, light. All right, we're gonna lay out so we can take a listen to Raven.

And Arnold in a subway.

I was just gonna. I was gonna say, is this the red Line.

Yeah.

Maybe it's the green line going to Yawkey.

About Tommy Dreamer's career. A video retrospective. Yet there was no footage of him beating me. Because he never has and he never was. Will Tommy Dreamer, you think that this is your time? Well, Tommy Dreamer, it will never be your time. As it will never be for your mentor, for your hero. That 53 year old man. That five and dime cartoon would be legend, Terry Funk. Don't you understand that all the young wrestlers look at you, they point and laugh in your direction. You are old, Terry Funk. You are a has been. And you were washed up. But what infuriates me worst of all is you're so old you could be my father. And I hate my, my father. And every time I get you in a ring, I'm gonna beat you and I'm gonna hit you. Like that old man did to me. Like that abusive bastard did to me when I was a child. My father beat me, Terry Funk. And I'm gonna beat you the same way. You see, Terry Funk, it isn't enough that I want to hurt you. I want to end you. I want to end your career, I want to end your life. Because you remind me of my father. And all the sadistic things he did to me. The molestation, the beatings, the divorce, the time he never spent with me, all the baseball games that all my friends went to, I never got to go to. That was the childhood I never had. Childhood? Tyler Fullington, Sandman, what kind of childhood did you, your son have? Well, a much better one since he's left you. Sandman, I took your son, I took your wife. I took my belt back. Sam, you don't have the guts. You don't have the. You don't have the intestinal fortitude to come back and take any of it. You can never take this from me. This will go to my grave. If you want your wife and kid, it's a different story. You're gonna have to go see Stevie Richards for that bwo. They've got your kids now.

Let's try this.

Stevie Richards, just like everybody else, deserted me when I needed him the most. When I needed him the most. He decided he wanted to have his own career. He didn't want to be my lackey anymore. He didn't want to be my flunkin. He decided it was time for him to become a man. Well, Stevie Richards, before you leave that nest, I'm gonna give you one last chance. You come back. You come back to Raven's Nest and almost everything Will be forgiven. Stevie Richards, Terry Funk, Sandman, Tommy Dreamer. I have enough of all of you. I've had enough of Paul Heyman and Todd Gordon. I am the ECW World Heavyweight Champion. Do not incur the wrath of Re. Do not incur my wrath anymore. You want the belt, you come and get it. But it ain't gonna happen. Quote me Nevermore.

That still sucked.

Yeah, that was my thought exactly. It sucked. He just came off like a.

Yeah, like. And the shift thing is that he was trying to be like, show some emotion, some passion, and it still was.

But what about me, right? Blaming. Blaming other people, right? Like, even get through, like, oh, my dad was an. Blah, blah, fine.

Yeah.

Even, like, thinking about that. That's offensive. Because what if. What about people that really went through that?

Right?

Because we don't. He didn't go through that. Oh, maybe not. I. I can't. I guess I can. I can't say that.

But yeah.

Yeah, that's terrible because it's wrestling.

It's not real.

But the character of. Oh, I was beaten.

Whatever.

Right? Molested. And. But I'm the champion now, and I'm mad because Stevie Riches is pretending to be good and I'm mad about it. The. And Terry Funk. You remind me of my dad. Because you're old. Go yourself. Even more reason for you to get your ass beat by Terry Funk. Should we feel that way? Is that what that promo is supposed to elicit? Are we supposed to feel you, Raven? We want Terry Funk to be your ass, Right? Yeah, I guess.

Yeah. Yeah, I would say so.

So I guess the promo worked, cuz why would you ever root for Raven? That's our dilemma. We. We wanted to root for Raven, but we didn't know we weren't supposed to. And we didn't know we were supposed to love Stevie Richards so much because he was the ultimate antagonist of Raven and he broke out on his own and had his own group. That was cool.

Way cooler than Raven.

We need to reevaluate everything we thought in 1990. That's why we do this podcast, right? With his Asian thing.

No, that wasn't intended to be.

Regardless of what I just said, it's still okay for us to say, raven, Steve Williams, everybody. We're not into it because that's our natural instincts as wrestling fans.

Yeah. I don't like you. You.

Right? You're pissing me off. You suck. You. There will always be moments of clarity when we mention what we really believe. Yeah, but that's not what this podcast is about. It's about us talking.

We don't like wrestling. We just like talking.

We watch enough wrestling. We just want to talk now.

Right.

And because for anybody who's not of our age, any younger listeners, if there's any out there, we miss talking to our friends about wrestling while we watch wrestling.

Yeah. This doesn't happen often. Yeah. Either that or like the day after at school, you know, talking about it like, oh, hey, did you see what happened last night on Raw or Nitro?

Right, right. This is the closest we get to. All right.

I. I know from my own self a couple of different times. Like, I watched this at my buddy's house. Like, we were having a sleepover or whatever. Because we were like, you know, 1112.

Yeah.

And we. We were doing this. I mean, it was basically this. But, you know, we were naive about. Like you were saying about Stevie and all that.

Yeah, that's exactly how it is.

And we were still man, like, man, look at Beulah. Holy.

Like, the latest fashion. Rick, were you a big fan of the Offspring?

I was not at this time. Like, I wasn't either.

I like the offspring. Like, 99.

Yes, exactly. Once. Once Americana came out, that was when I kind of.

Yep.

I started, and then I went back and forgot this. This album.

Kids are all right.

Yeah.

Right.

Yeah. Smash and Ixnay on the Ombre then became part of my. Yeah, I didn't remember the faculty movie. Yeah.

Did you watch that?

Yeah, yeah, the alien movie.

Yeah, you're right. It was supposed to be like. Yeah. What was the faculty based on? It was space. It was a take off of the original old story. Why am I drawing a blank right now? This.

I'm look. I'm looking it up because I'm drawing a blank, too.

What are you. What are you asking?

Faculty?

Yep.

Basic story was the aliens and. Oh. Invasion of the Body Snatches. Right.

Yeah, There you go.

Yeah. Yeah, that's. Yeah, it's, like, comparable to that, for sure.

Right. That's what that was. But it was so cool how they did it for that generation. And using the soundtrack. I had the whole soundtrack. It was great.

Yeah, Jordana Brewster was in that.

Oh, she was hot at the time. Yeah, I bet she's still hot.

I had that.

Yeah, she probably.

What's this song? Oh, we gotta play this song.

All right, so they're hyping up cyber Slammed it, apparently. It's called Guilty by Gravity Kills.

Have we played that?

I don't think so.

All right. I like that song because it totally reminds me of watching ecw at this time.

Yeah.

Pretty good song.

That's typical of the time. Or should we play Bush? Because we never played Bush.

Everything's in.

Everything's in. All right. We're playing Bush. David. Yeah.

Knowing Ecw, they'll play this song again.

Yeah. This sounds like a song they would play every time. There's a promo package.

Oh, yeah.

Just like this one.

There we go.

Why the hell does WCW keep mentioning Undertakers coming out the hall of fame right now? Who's that creeping in my window? Oh, Red Hot Chili Peppers.

Yeah.

There's going to be no lyrics in this because they don't want to give it away now.

No.

What do you think of this music as it's playing as being a entrance.

Song, but give it away.

Yeah, I think it works without the lyrics.

Yeah, I was gonna say, I think if you're playing it just the instrumental, it's odd. You need the. You need the lyrics. Yeah. It's going to take him about 10 minutes, Joey, so keep talking.

Oh, damn.

Look. Look at this. They don't. They don't even have a, like, actual entrance. It's just a curtain they strung up.

Oh, yeah. Jv, look at those pants, man.

Purple Zubaz.

He's already cut like he's. Bill Goldberg just banged his head purple.

Yep. Yeah.

There he goes.

Now he's bleeding right in that guy's face.

That guy's like. Yeah, I love it.

Yeah.

I'm loving it. Hey, I guess we would have had the time, too.

I kind of want those pants like.

I want pajama pants like.

Yeah, yeah, they look comfortable.

And look at that. I can fit a little beer in there nice and easy.

That Dutch Mantel to find him. It's not, but it looks like.

I know.

Yeah.

Look at that guy with his Kodak.

Yeah.

Oh, that's great. As one of his 12 shots, huh? Who's this ring announcer Rick.

I was just. I was just thinking that.

This is deal.

He's looking very spiffy.

If he doesn't.

Fit with this crowd.

Yeah, well, I was gonna say the guy in the crowd doesn't fit with this crowd. What's that dude behind Sandman? We can't see him now at this point, but dude had headphones on. Like he's sitting in Foxborough Stadium. Listen to a Patriots game in the stadium.

Right.

Hate guys. You ever. You ever go to a football game and there's a dude, like, with headphones on, listen to the radio feed while he's watching the game live. Oh, what the. This is more Annoying, because there's no way you're listening to this. So what the you listening to? Not listening to a podcast you're not listening to. What are you listening to? Pearl Jams end album right now on the cassette. Why do you have headphones on when you're at a live event?

Yeah, because it's not even like, the blocking out the sound, you know, like you're at a. Like, stock car racing and sea conch or something that I'm trying to, you know, save you hearing.

Hey, this guy's in the front row for an ECW show and he has headphones on. What the.

They're playing the whole song tonight.

Oh, yeah, we're. That's not. That's why the whole episode's dragging out. But I do want those front pants.

Yes.

Like, paisley purple.

I like him.

Not that he's got.

Is he gonna pull another beer out?

Oh, yeah, it looks like he is. No, I want. I want diva to just slam him in the head or seal chair.

Yeah.

Right. Now, as we see this here Sandman coming out with these nice fuchsia pants. Fuchsia, right? That would be the color. Fuchsia purple.

Yeah.

I feel like I have gained an appreciation of Sandman and I've lost appreciation for Raven over these years. Like, what the. Kind of like the Sandman and he sucks. Like, he's not good. Oh, yeah. Never mind. I'm wrong. I think the pants got me tripping.

Joel Gartner, party boy.

Yeah, we gotta love Sandman, though. There's been so many good memories of Sandman over the years.

There's. There's going to be a few more.

What the hell was that?

What the hell was that?

Rusty the Clown. Come on. What the hell is that? Did I bring this up last time? We got to do, like, a rundown year by year specials at some point.

Yeah. Best. Best of 93 or whatever.

Right?

Yeah.

Just to kind of recap. That's my favorite thing to say.

Were you thinking in terms of, like, the, you know, year rundown? Like a whole episode dedicated to a year or just kind of like.

Yeah, whole. Yeah. One year at a time.

Okay.

Yeah. Because it could be like, 30 minutes, 45 minutes, whatever. We'd have to sneak those in. We don't. No, specials at some point.

Yes. Special. Special edition episodes. That place has the weirdest ceiling.

It's a fake ceiling.

Yeah, it's like an Amazon warehouse.

Yeah.

And they got the H vac unit above it, so it's weird.

Yeah. Villains 316, Wilkins, Wilkins 316.

Wilkins. Yeah. Who's Wilkins? Dominic Wilkins. No, I know.

Yeah, he was on the Celtics at, like, in what, like 94, 95.

495.

Yeah.

That was like the tail end of his career, too.

Oh, definitely. Yeah.

Yeah.

I always remember him on the Hawks.

Oh, yeah.

I was like, it. We lost Larry Bird. I need star power.

Did we still have Kevin McHale at that point or. He retired before 94.

He left, I think.

I think he retired in 93. Thank you. I could be wrong.

93 and 94.

Yeah, yeah, that. That season.

Gotcha. So, like, the year after Bird retired.

Not positive. Yeah.

Yeah, because Bird retired and then Reggie Lewis died.

Yeah.

I want to say Mikhail was. Yeah, it was like, right after that.

Yeah, yeah. Because, like, all the. All the. The big heavy hitters from the 80s, you know, when the Celtics and the Lakers were going at it, they all retired. They all left the Celtics like, within, like, three years. It was like, boom, you know, one. Bird retires, Reggie Lewis dies. Male retires, Parish retires. What side of the ring was that guy you were talking about? PR that had the headphones on?

It was not this. Definitely not this side. It was the opposite side. What the is this? Sushi bar? What the are they.

Yeah, it. That is a. It's like a weird counter right there.

It was definitely the opposite side.

Gotcha.

And it was a quick shot because they were showing Sandman just going to the ring, right? It was just. Dude just on his headphones. Like, nowadays I'd be like, maybe there's some problem with them, but who's not sitting in the front row headphones going to ECW show, right? In 1997, dude's not on a IEP.

That was. That was a very polite way to put it.

Sorry.

No, no, I. I like, I like, I was. I was.

I was saying in general, overall.

Oh, okay. I'm like. I was on the exact same wavelength, and I'm like, how can I. How can we say this without. Without sounding like complete ass ass hats, you know.

Maybe. Maybe we are, but. Yeah, what the. We're watching ecw and people listening this to this are watching ECW or listening to ecw.

Right.

So I'm sorry if I offended you, but what the is the guy doing? Ah, whatever.

Oh, my.

Steve Williams sucks.

I think we just discovered a new gimmick for Brew. Whenever he gets ran, he just needs to yell, steve Williams sucks.

Yeah.

And then everything's all right with the transition words. Yeah, yeah, it's his transition words. Yeah.

He could knock down the bra for all him sucks him up. That's right.

You got knocked the out.

You got knocked the out. Hey.

For as much as people on the Brawl for all JV and I covering the bottom line wrestling cast had the greatest time covering the Brawl for all. That was awesome.

It's not. It's not as. I mean it's bad, but it's not.

Bad for a wrestling. I guess. But it was.

Right. It's a. It's a decent idea.

It was different. It was something different on the show.

Right. Oh, and it was. And it wasn't like. And it wasn't like they dedicated the whole episode to it. They'd have fights a night or something.

Right? One or two fights and yeah. You didn't know what was gonna happen.

Crazy happened, right? Friggin Bart. Bart Gunn knocks out like everybody with. You know, from out of nowhere Doc doctor Death tears is his ACL or whatever.

Did he. I forget about.

Yeah, yeah, he. He did. He. He. Something in his leg up like. And not just like he twisted his knee, but like he tore something. Maybe. Maybe he tore his hamstring. I don't know.

What an idiot ever.

Like you can not like immediately. You know. Like it's not like a quad where you have to be out for like a year. You could hear those. Doesn't matter because Steve Williams.

I thought he was gonna say the Wonderland Ranch. Like they're Michael Jackson's house.

Rick's already still my gimmick using transition. I was gonna say. What the. This match is much longer than I thought it would be.

Yeah. It has been a very long match.

This is the weirdest. Oh, what the. I feel like we're in a TV set. We got a fake drop ceilings everywhere.

For some reason I feel like it feels like the airport. I don't know why.

Yes. Yes. Airport. It feels like in the airport waiting area.

The. Yeah, at the like airport.

Right. Everybody, like, we got a delayed flight. But don't worry, we Got Divon D vs Sandman ladder match coming up right now. Yeah, just wait. We'll get you the departure time soon. Sandman's got some nice new fuchsia blue pants that you might like.

They hold three beers in each pocket.

Yes, they hold three beers in a pocket.

You can carry a six pack with you. Seriously, what the is with the drop ceiling? But like half of it's missing. I want.

It's like they removed it just for this wrestling match. Like, let's get rid of this big piece of the ceiling and put the ring in there.

Know what I want? I want Sabu to be here so that he would jump up on that drop sale.

Yes.

And then dive off. Well, I don't think we're gonna get that here. This is Revere Mass.

Yep.

Where the. Is this? In Rev. This is not the same place.

This is the place that the mass transit incident happened. It's been torn down since then.

But is this. This is not the same look that the other show had?

Yes and no. Like, I seeing it, I'm. Like, it looks familiar, but I think. Well, I mean, obviously the footage for mass transit is a lot shittier. But also, I. I don't think. I don't. Maybe. Maybe they did it at a different part of the building or something. Yeah.

Landed on his dick.

What are these? It's a long match. Ddt. DD tit. All right. Sandman setting up a ladder. I don't give a. Because he's gonna fall off. He's not gonna be able to walk up. Damn thing. Let's see. Stumbling, bubbling. Oh, he's gonna fix the lights. He's up in the ceiling. Oh, he's gonna swing. Why? Why? You better. All right, so he swings back and forth. He does his leg drop, but the ladder falls on Devon before he even swings off.

Yep.

Hey. And I guess. Hey, it did come into play. This shitty drop ceilings.

Yeah.

From the rafters. Joey's. Oh, he came from the rafters. Yeah. Like six feet from his arms.

Eight feet up. Yeah.

Guess what? That sucked. All right, Joe Gartner, go in there and make this better and get up, please.

Comes this yachts.

Dead drop. Oh, there's Bubba. We knew Bubba was coming. Because he's divine. This is when Bubba starts to get talky.

Yep.

What I mean is, he starts to talk like us.

Yeah. He stops with the stuttering. Hey, his pants match the Bubba's shirt.

Yeah. He's part of the Dudleys. Up Dudley.

He's PBR Douglas Whip.

Oh, we got the mini rock outside.

Yep. The Pebble.

The Pebble. The first Boss Club ECW members will get to purchase P pay per view tickets. Boom. Is this Shaq? I feel like this was Shaq's rap song.

I think you're right.

Am I right? Look it up. I never been laid. Well, that's not a good thing to announce when you're older. That's fine to say never been laid, cuz that's that on this time. Oh, Styles with the oversized suit. What's the other say? Oh, we got a layout for this. Let's listen to these Japanese wrestlers talk Some.

Barely legal. Sunday night, April 13th at 9:00pm Eastern time. Remember, tickets for the pay per view at the arena in Philadelphia go on sale to Club ECW members.

This is a member of Club ECW.

And you're at the arena this Saturday night. You can pick up your ticket.

Saturday I watch this pay per view by myself.

By yourself?

Yeah. Well, I don't know anybody else like watching ecw?

Oh, I didn't. I didn't know if like uncle or something might have.

No, my. My grandfather ordered it for me and he was wrestling.

We now take you to comments from one of those teams consisting of Grand Hamada and a personal favorite of mine, the man who seems to be the leader.

Yeah, no idea. He's like, not wwf. What?

Don't get too used to the guy.

Whatever is.

He's not gonna be there.

Yeah. Who? The. On the right.

Grand Nanawa. He's a crab.

Grand Nanawa?

Yep.

Mean crab.

I don't. I don't know if it actually means crab, but he. He. His mannerisms are very crab like, and he does this rope walk, elbow drop, where he kind of crab walks across the middle rope. It's. It's hard to describe. Looks kind of dumb. It's one of those, like, the guy has to lay there for 20 seconds while he does his little stupid moves.

Always believable.

Yeah, the dude in the. The dude in the middle, Grand Hamada, he's. He's a legend.

Like a badass.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah, that wet, curly hair.

Yeah, those are guys, like mid-80s movies.

Hey, it's talking about your ass.

Is that great sauce? Okay, right?

That's great. Sasuke. Yep.

On the left. That was. Who was talking though, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Great. Sasuke. Yep.

Yeah.

Sasuke meaning ninja.

Is that what Sasuke means?

Yeah, that's actually what it means. Ninja.

Hey, Jeffy, Speaking ninjas, have you been watching any of the FX series?

Yeah, I'm all caught up, bro.

You're all caught up?

7, I think it was today.

I didn't watch. I didn't watch this week's episode yet. Last one I watched was the episode about the two women, Whispers in the Wind or whatever the. It was called. A previous episode.

Yeah, this one. Oh, so, yeah, this one's really good. This is probably the best episode yet.

Oh, all right. My opinion, Rick, have you watched Shogun at all?

I have. I have not. You guys have talked. I've mentioned it before. I. I just haven't. I haven't got around to it, unfortunately.

Watch it.

Watch the show. Watch the show.

Watch the show. Watch the show. FX and Disney plus are same thing now, so.

Oh, are they?

Yeah.

I didn't know that.

So if you have one. Well, if you have Disney plus, Hulu is part of it now.

Oh, okay.

This is their own like Hulu section now in Disney plus.

Oh, cool.

I feel like I'm at the dance right now. I'm at the.

Yeah.

Voice club dance with Montel Jon playing some drive, you know. Oh, there something. One, two. I'm driving. Did you.

Did you hear that?

What he say? What Paulie say?

Yeah, he starts off, it's more fun than a panty raid.

What the. Is a legit panty raid? Like we know that, like from movies and stuff in the 80s. Oh, it's a peony raid. But what would you do in a painting raid? What's a painting raid? You run through girls drawers and just take their underwear.

It was a thing dudes did before.

You put underwear on your head.

Porn was on the Internet. And you can watch this on your phone. It would raid and smell panties and.

What the. I'm gonna raid the drawers, put peonies on my head, sniff them. It's like Porkies. And like a movie we apparently need to review together is Police Academy because. Yeah, I'll tell you with me here on the ECW Extreme cast. I haven't seen any women on this show, so I gotta bring up somebody. Well, I forgot her name. Mahoney. That's not her name. That's a goofy guy.

But you thinking of Kim Cattrall?

The. With the big ass titties or the.

The blonde. The blonde. Yeah. Okay. I don't know what her name is, but that was the first.

Oh, all right. That makes sense. Yeah. Caroline.

Yeah.

That was the first set of jugs I can remember as a kid.

Oh, we get it.

Probably. I probably made my dad proud when I watched that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I love titties. There we go.

One of my memories when I was a little Memories.

One of your memories?

Yeah, memories is watching porkies with my dad.

Oh, yeah. Looking through the locker room.

Yes.

Taz. Gonna somebody up. Scott Taylor looking like he's trying to be Ricky Martin. Scott Taylor before he does the worm.

Who woke up and shows. I'm gonna try and look like Ricky Morton.

Juji Gatami.

Lock it in. Who's known for doing a juju Katami.

It's a cross. It's a cross. Arm breaker. Yeah, the. Oh, gosh. Okay.

Oh, nice. Lock on there like that. This is A little aside right now, during the hall of Fame, we got Mike Rotundo accepting his hall of Fame induction alongside of Barry Windham, who's wearing a hat. He's wearing a suit, but he's got a hat on.

He's still got a big ass beard, too.

All right, well, let's. Goatee, ponytail going through the back slop slot of the hat.

Gotcha.

Yeah. Not a fan of that. I'll just mention that if you're gonna put Barry Windham in the. Well, yeah, that too.

Okay.

If you're gonna put Barry Windham in the hall of Fame, don't put him in with the US Express. If you're gonna put Mike pretend in the hall of Fame, don't put him in ever.

Don't.

Yeah, just don't do it. Why?

I honestly don't have a problem with Mike Rotunda being.

Not at all.

I'd rather. I'd rather he going as the part of the US Express than as irs.

I'd rather him be irs.

Really?

Yeah, me too.

Because who gives a about the US Express, really? Come on.

Fair point.

It was a year and a year and a half team that there was no real spotlight on. Nobody really knew them. Yeah, they were at WrestleMania 1, but who the knew of WrestleMania 1 when it was popular?

Like you make. It wasn't.

It wasn't popular. It was. It was WrestleMania 1 didn't help build WrestleMania money.

Inc.

Right. If Coco Beware is. If Koga Beware is in the hall of Fame as being Coco Beware, then IRS should be in the hall of Fame as irs.

I don't think they should go in as characters.

No.

Well, depends on what the character is, I guess.

What do you mean?

I'd rather Mike. Mike Rotunda is going in as US Express. He is IRS. He is not US Express Mike Rotundo. And he's not going in as VK Wall Street. He's not going in as Mr. Wall Street. He's going in as somebody barely anybody knew. And the only reason why it's happening is because Bray Wyatt died. Well, that's the whole deal.

Yeah.

And they don't want to put any of these guys in on their own accord. They want to do it because it's Frey Wyatt. That's what's annoying. That's what's. Because these guys would not even get in if Bray Wyatt didn't die last year or two years ago. That's the truth.

I mean, Barry Windham's already in.

Oh. As the full pot of the Four Horsemen.

Yeah. Yeah, but now. Yeah, what you said. I honestly, I do think Barry Wyndham should be in as a singles based on not. Not on his WWE stuff, but just on wrestling in general.

Right. Which is not what that hall of Fame is.

No.

So that's why them being inducted is even shittier, because, like, that's not what this hall of Fame is, because they're not good. Like, it doesn't go along with what the. They've been doing. This is obviously just a Bray Wyatt thing, and there was fans. Oh, Bray White should get inducted posthumously. No. Why? Because you liked his character, you know, now he died, right?

That's like. That's like saying, what's his name? Brody Lee, Should. Should go in. Because everybody loved him after, you know? Everybody loved him after he died, you know? Yeah, like, that's. That's what I mean. Like, I'm agreeing with you that it's. It's stupid to be, like, put Bray Wyatt in just because he died. You know.

I was cool. Cool character, but.

Yeah. And nothing. Nothing against him as a.

Not that he couldn't go in in time.

Right. But he does. He didn't do. He didn't do a lot, and it's like he just died last year, right?

Yeah.

Yeah. Whereas somebody like Eddie Guerrero had had a career and then died, so it makes sense to put him in, like, you know, the. The year after he died or whatever. You know, whatever it was.

I. Yeah, when you say that, it's like, ah, could we compare that? Compare.

Oh, I'm not. I'm not comparing them.

No, no, I'm not saying you shouldn't. Now I'm thinking maybe. Maybe that's a good point, actually, because some, like us, think Eddie that way, and there's probably plenty of people that think of Bray that way, too. We're just older, so we maybe don't think it the same way. But either way, I don't like the way they went about. It was like, if you're gonna induct him, then induct him. Don't induct his dad and uncle or whatever the Barry Wyndham is.

Yeah, I think it's his uncle.

His uncle as a shitty tag team instead of Bray Wyatt.

Right.

Like, just. If you're gonna do it, just do Bray Wyatt and suck it up.

Exactly. All right, so we got the Blue World Order inducting the three guys from Michinoku Pro into the Blue World Order, Japan contingent.

All right, who's this? We got marshale.

No, no, you got a taka Michinoku.

Were you guys gonna say the macho.

Man dick to go?

Macho man Dick Togo. And then men's Teo or Terry boy?

It's not dick Togo.

How bad does blue Meanies belly?

You don't think that's dick togo?

It's dick to go.

Oh, dick to go. Okay.

Yeah, the pronunciation right on your. But I like the dick to go.

Ah, no, actually I like that too. That's.

What the. We got some Jimmy Hendrix or no. Doesn't it sound like Jimi Hendrix about to start?

It does.

I want that outfit. Imagine wearing that outfit today. Imagine wearing the outfit then.

Yeah, 25 years ago. 20.

Kind of.

How?

Like Kanye.

That does not work.

The mask on. And have you seen Kanye? He wears like masks.

Really?

Does he?

Yeah, like ski masks.

Creepo.

Probably that shirt.

But black.

With his Yeezys.

Yeah, yeah. He can't wear. I don't think he'd wear them anymore.

No.

Yeah.

What a smack.

Nice.

Rude is taking some out. Okay. I want that ass. I want all that ass. Give me your ass in your baby. Davy's gonna. Hey, look it up.

That's how they would sound at a bar.

Yeah, put it on. Oh, man. Paulie, run it one more over there to say. Rick, we haven't done any notes. I did my due diligence too. I printed out a hard copy. Anybody?

You did?

Yeah, and I'm only flipping through it now.

Increase your carbon footprint.

Well, I didn't pay for it. Joey, chill out, will you? Double dress. Fucking shit. Shit.

Your problem.

Yelks Lodge. Oh, 878 Elks Lodge. You can meet us at The American Legion 642 MIA.

Yeah. Hey, Elks Lodge.

Coming now. A new Sabu T shirt. Signature one. Only available on extra large and large for fat.

Yeah, but don't do fat.

Nobody's gonna have it.

Nobody's skinny enough. Nobody's super fat.

You can't be too fat or too small. It's just for our audience. Extra large and large people. Oh, some good Metallica here. We played this though. We already have songs. What am I talking about? I think.

Yeah, yeah, we do.

Everything's in. We're playing everything then off. That but true Internet. This is Sabo. Takam Sabo. Know what I don't want to see? I don't want to see Brian Lee on this episode cuz he sucks ass. I'm the one to hate you. I don't know the song. All right, jb. JB knows this. If you play a song, let me sing. I'll Just up all the lyrics.

Yeah, yeah.

GB was always the best. Like, passenger in a car or I was driving, just singing songs. Let me just up all lyrics, not say anything. Good dude. Good deal.

JB's a good dude.

And the reason why I say that is the best woman that I ever dated. Never make fun of me when I don't know lyrics. Like, my wife, she knows, like, ah, you know what the. You're singing, but she won't call me up. Francine and Franchise. Listen to these dudes and cities.

Terry Funk, you do it your way.

And I'll do it mine. Do you think, oh, I said I don't want to see Brian Lee off.

That you were starting to say.

Do you think I was gonna say. Do you think, like, if you say anything kind of convincingly and then laugh after it, does it make it more convincing? Like, friendship? Like, Franchise is like, you know what? If I. You. I'll. You real good.

I don't think that helps. Mike Tyson wasn't laughing. He was scared.

All right, here he goes again. Is he gonna laugh? Yeah. Laughing. Yeah, I guess that's his thing. Oh, finally. Chris Candido. I love his whininess. This is much better approach than Raven has.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

Just because, like, he can be. He can be a whiny, but it's different. Like, I don't. I don't know how to describe it. It just. It's. It works.

It's different because he's. He wants to wrestle, Right. And Raven doesn't ever give an idea that he wants to wrestle. It's just, he's. I'm not. It's not fair to me. Blah, blah, blah. And Chris Candido always comes off like, yeah, I'm whiny, Things aren't going my way, but I want to fight for it. I want to do this.

Yeah. Like, he'll occasionally throw in something that's kind of random, but it's funny.

Oh, yeah.

You know? Oh, yeah. Like, when he's. When he was just talking about this and he's like. He's like, you know, I knew you before. They're all stinking. Before you had those stinking scars on your body. Like, it's just the fact that he says those stinking scars like it.

Right. Wait, that's, like, right out of Stone Cold Playbook. Like.

Yeah.

Oh, you got those little scars on your body type thing. Yeah, yeah.

Your girlfriend's a bimbo. Yeah, like, that kind of delivery.

What's good about. Right? Your girlfriend's a bibble. Chris Candido's got it because he's a New Jersey guy. He's had. He has the attitude of people, I guess. I mean. Yeah, just fucking give it to you. Throw some bullshit out there.

Yeah.

Keep it real.

Yeah. And it's believable when even if he says something that's kind of like outlandish or stupid, it's still believable.

Right. All right, so we're getting a fan cam action here. Taz just knocked out. I forgot who it was in the corner, but he knocked Van Damme off the corner and now Sabu showed up. We're gonna face the face. We're building up. Yeah, we're building up to be able to. Illegal. I do have to say I at this time was watching weekly, anticipating getting the pay per view. Was excited for this match. No, I was. I'm saying.

Oh, you were? Okay.

Yes.

Okay. I thought you said you weren't.

No, I wasn't anticipating this match.

Oh, okay.

I was watching these shows, taping them because this wasn't like in the height that I actually had the access, like 96 to 97.

Yeah.

That I was taping. I do. I do have to say, Taz was always my favorite over Sabo at that point. Fan cam suck ass, by the way.

No, I agree, dude.

They're not showing much.

No.

What the we looking at? It's like, yeah, we can. This Taz Taboo's over there wearing his pants. His blue shiny pants, whatever the they are. But now we got a bunch of wrestlers in the ring and nothing's happening. So what good is this? Isn't that a brawl? Okay. All right. There you go.

And he missed.

That was terrible.

Yeah, he flies out of the ring finally, and then no damage. It just ends.

He landed on the Eliminators. He completely missed has. Like when. It's like when you see Samoa Joe, somebody goes to do a move and he just walks out of the. Out of the way.

Yeah. Oh. All right, so that wraps up that episode. Episode 200 of ECW Haku TV, February 18, 1997. And hey, that was. That was fun. Just like. I think both episodes, pretty fun. What do you guys think?

Yeah, yeah, Both of them were good.

They were good.

Yeah. I think we're building up to, you know, what they want us to get to is the pay per view. And it's pretty. Pretty good TV overall.

Yeah, yeah. Plenty of pay per view hype.

Yeah, yeah. A lot of promos, but yeah, no, no, what this was missing overall, you know what I'm thinking?

Didn't have enough Beulah in it.

Oh, well, good for you, Rick.

Yeah.

Good phrasing.

I can. I can agree with that.

I was gonna say.

That.

All right. Yeah. So that. That. That's what I'm missing. But hey, hey, they're being classy. Classy. They're getting it done.

Yeah. Despite the fact that we saw that clip of a rude spanking Francine's ass, like, three different times.

Yeah, that was good.

That was a good. That was good. Not. Not as good as today's, but, you know, not, not, not. Not complaining.

All right, with that said, we're gonna wrap things up, and we'll be right back with the Extreme ECLV Live cast. Wrap up. All right, we're back now for the Extreme ECW livecast wrap up. And in two weeks, we'll be back with another episode. And we're gonna switch things up just a little bit because something special is coming up that we haven't really talked about. And we're gonna do this because when the. Does this ever happen or, you know, in the case of what we've been covering for years, ecw. When the. Is ECW gonna have a major role on Monday Night Raw? And at this point, they do Monday Night Raw, February 24th, just a week after what we're covering, ECW is going to invade WWF. We gotta watch this.

Oh, yeah, yeah, definitely.

Maybe go on it for that.

It's gotta happen.

Yeah.

All right, so we're gonna watch that episode live. It's just. I think it's only one hour, right. At that point still.

Yeah, I think. I think so.

Yeah. So we'll watch that, and then we'll watch the next episode of ECW Hardcore TV after that, which would be ECW HeartCrew TV 201 from February 25th.

Right.

So we got a raw and then new CW. And I. I don't think they're gonna reference anything from the raw. I don't think they can reference anything from RAW on. He's gonna be hardcore tv. But we definitely got to check that because Steven Richards is on there. Right? Sabo.

Taz.

Taz is on there.

I think Mikey. Mikey's on there, Mike.

Yeah, Mikey has a match on there. There's a few mat. It was like a few straight up ECW matches.

Yeah.

So definitely worth checking out. So we'll watch that and then ECW hardcore TV episode 201 from February 25th. Then also, please check out the bottom line of wrestling cast with JV and I, as we are covering the correct Stone Cold Steve Austin. And our latest episode will be Stomach save Austin, episode 17, return to the Battle Royal Battle Bowl. Whatever the. It doesn't matter because we haven't covered it. It's supposed to be out, like, every time we say that, but at this time, I think it'll be out. Yeah. Bettable covering November 1993. And with that said, please again, one last time. Check us out wherever you get your podcast and go on. Social media follows wherever you can. Follow JV at John Van Damage, follow Rick BV at Leo Y85. Follow me Mike Pru at NPRU83, and check out Rick B. Rick BB also at Hybrid Cat. Well, hybrid underscore cast and then also at Extreme cast. And that's it. We're gonna play out with the song that we meant to play a couple weeks ago. A couple episodes ago. And that is some bush. Everything Zen, guys? Anything left to say?

I got nothing.

I got nothing.

All right, so, Sam, we can eat. Maybe find another lover. Should I fly to Los Angeles? Find my hope brother? Mickey Mouse is growing up a cow Dave's on sale again. We kiss a kiss in the real view we so for your flame rainbox hell for the century A million dollars a stake as you search for your demigod, you fake weather saints? There's no sex in your violence there's no sex in your violence Comes trust my wife? I don't think so.

I don't believe.

Sam. There's no sex in your violence there's no sex in your violence there's no sex in your violence no sex in your.

I.

Then I don't think so I don't think so, Sam.