Extreme ECW Live Cast
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E104 ECW HCTV 224 & 225: August 5 & 12, 1997

E104 - Extreme ECW Live Cast

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Speaker A:

It's a new year stuff. Oh, my God. I travel with this guy. I've trained with them. I've broken bread with them. And I choked them out. The final battle between Raven and Tommy Dreamer. You did your job and ran the fuckers off. Look at that. From the twisted steel section of Dudleyville. Extreme Championship Wrestling has been thrown into disarray. This, my friends, is ecw.

Speaker B:

Welcome to the extreme ECW live cast. And we are back for episode 104. And we are covering ECW hardcore TV episodes 224 and 225. And that is August 5th and 12th of 1997. I'm Mike PR along with JV and Rick BB guys, how you doing? Welcome back. Yeah, we. We back at it, boy. Yeah, boy. Let's say Rick, what you gonna say? And Rick was like back. That's it, that's it. Rick's just back.

Speaker C:

I don't want to. I don't on it.

Speaker A:

It always.

Speaker C:

It's always a thing where you're doing the intro and you say, what? What's up? And JV and I both go, doing good, bro, or something like that, and step on each other. I know a little room.

Speaker B:

Hey, every time I'm hoping for something new, nothing new happens. But hey, that was new. You paused. If I could bring it out. There you go. Yeah, there we go. Yeah. All right. So anyway, before we get into everything, please give us a follow on X Add Extreme Cast. Follow me Mike Pru at NPRU83. Follow JV at John Van Damage. Follow Rick BB at Leo Y85. Also check out JV and I the Bottom Line Wrestling cast the career of Stone Cold Steve Austin. And things have been active over there. Right. TV have been doing some new episodes. Yeah, we got three episodes out in a month. It's impressive for us these days. Yeah. No, we have two new episodes of our coverage of stunning Steve Austin. That is the Chicken Suit saga coming to a conclusion, as we thought. But then the chicken suit comes back in a way in our latest episode covering the Thunder Cage, which is February of 1994, of stunning Steve Austin. And then also it was 316 day, so pop a top guzzle one down, Rick. BB you were there with this for us. And that was a fun episode covering Shotgun Saturday Night.

Speaker C:

Hell yeah, it was.

Speaker B:

Oh, yeah, that was fun. Terry Funk was there.

Speaker C:

Your mother's a. That was. That was a good episode. All. All in all, not just the Terry Funk Stone Gold segment.

Speaker B:

Yeah, just in general. That is a good episode of Wrestling and you know, not to. Not the toot around Horn, but, you know. But yeah, that was a good episode for us too. Yeah, that's funny. Like, because we're so used to doing the Extreme ECW Live cast with each other as a team for past, what, two years? So. Yeah, so when we do the Bottom Line wrestling cast in the style of ECW Extreme Live cast, it's like, oh, that's like the same. And just, it just feels so smooth. It's like, ah. You know what I mean?

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So it's natural. Yeah, it seemed natural, right?

Speaker C:

Yeah, it's just, it's just instead of, instead of three guys sitting on the couch watching ECW at one o' clock in the morning on Univision. Yeah, it's three guys sitting on the couch watching Shotgun Saturday night on Fox 25 at 1 o' clock in the morning or whatever the. It was on.

Speaker B:

Yeah, same. So it just fit the mold. It was perfect. So we appreciate you being on that. And it was funny. Jamie was like, I don't even know why we need to like, give Rick any, like, commendations for, like, he was on the show. It's like, yeah, no, yeah, no, he should be on the show. Yeah, he's always on the show. That's where we're at at this point.

Speaker C:

Yeah. Part of the furniture now.

Speaker B:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. But like, no, I'm gonna throw this in there. I'm putting you on the spot because I haven't brought it up in a while. But now you have a podcast. Kinda.

Speaker C:

Yeah. Yes, I kind of do.

Speaker B:

And you said you were working on it, so what the going on? What was the new episode coming out? I'm.

Speaker C:

I'm doing my best Mean Mike Crockett and, you know, like the wrestling podcast about. Nothing. We're on an extended hiatus. No, I, I.

Speaker A:

What?

Speaker C:

I have been working on it off and on. It's just been a thing where life is, you know, I guess that life, life, life.

Speaker B:

I bring it up because you said like, you're like, you have a script, you have, you're ready.

Speaker C:

Yeah, that's the thing is I have a, I have a script that's like between 50 and 70% complete, but then it's finishing it and then finding time to record it and all that. But yeah, and as an aside, or not an aside, as a connection to this. Remember I told you I, I threw that in the, the Notebook LM app or whatever you want to call it.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker C:

Yeah. When I listened back to it. Oh, it, it slaughtered it at certain Parts. I'm like, this is insane. How, how it good it was at certain points. And then it just completely was like saying the wrong things or I don't even remember what it was, but some of the stuff I was like, I, I, I'm laughing at it because it's just so, like, like it's, it's a.

Speaker B:

You're talking about the AI reviews of. Yep, yeah, yep, yep.

Speaker C:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker B:

If you don't, if you don't give

Speaker C:

it changed at one point.

Speaker B:

Yeah, that happens.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

You have to be so direct with what you feed it and what directions you give. So in that particular app, which is the Google Notebook lm, if you just drop in an audio recording and say up. Make a review, it's just gonna be crap.

Speaker C:

Oh, absolutely.

Speaker B:

There is an option where you can insert directions so you could say, oh, I would like you to focus on this. And I would like you to mention me, I'm Rick Beebe, and I say this, blah, blah, blah. You know? You know what I mean? So, yeah, you gotta give it directions.

Speaker C:

Yeah, I gave, I gave it the direction of. Explain it to people who have little to no knowledge of the subject. And, and they did talk about that, but then it was like, it was, I don't know, it's just odd. I'll have to, I'll have to send you the, the audio file because it was just like off the rails at certain points.

Speaker B:

Oh, it's so cringy sometimes because it's so npr.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Like, oh, yeah, let's unpack this.

Speaker C:

And I, it, well, what did it use? It was, it kept saying. I kept saying one word and I can't remember what it was, but I was like, did I write that a million times? Is that why it keeps using it?

Speaker B:

No, no, I had like, I, it's so funny. I would tell her how to manage with AI, but you have to tell it to like, dude, AI. I've noticed that you are repetitive. So stop repeating yourself and stop going through the cycles, because I've noticed that. And things that you've said before. So just keep it on point. Like, I gave those directions and it came out better each time.

Speaker C:

Gotcha.

Speaker B:

You, you gotta tell it to stop repeating itself because that likes to do reviews. Like, it kicks off with like the first 10 minutes of something. If you say it'll cover everything you want it to cover in those first 10 minutes and then they'll just break it down again. So.

Speaker C:

Gotcha.

Speaker B:

It needs control.

Speaker C:

Yeah, it definitely needs, needs direction. Is, is a good, good, good Way to. To put it.

Speaker B:

And that's what's funny, is like, this whole technology is like, oh, yeah, this is. This is great. You can have it do all this, but you need humans to control the.

Speaker C:

Oh, yeah. To give it direction.

Speaker B:

Right. All right, so we gotta get into this because nobody gives a about all this PD we're doing here. Professional development about learning about. Yeah, I use. Hey, we got some extreme ECW hardcore tv. So I'm hoping to see some titties. And now I'm done talking about robots with us and not learning how we speak. Yeah, not listening to us. Just making up and just repeating themselves over and over again. You know, I'll probably do that a few times on this episode as well. But I'm not a robot. I'm live, so. All right, so let's get right into it. Hardcore TV, episode 224, we're covering August 5, 1997. If you are checking this out on the peacock or wherever it is, it's episode 32 from season five, I guess the time. And that's what's crazy with ECW hardcore tv, is that episode numbers are all over the place. So I'm just going with August 5th. It might be August 2nd, it might be September 1st. Who knows? It's all over the place. But we're going with August 5th, 1997. Peacock Season 5, Episode 32. We're gonna watch along with this on the Internet archive, which is August 5th, 1997, and it's a run time of 53 minutes, 25 seconds. It's in Monica, Pennsylvania. Right. Rick, you're the Monaco guy, right?

Speaker C:

I believe it was Monaka. Yeah.

Speaker B:

Manaka. No, it's not like Denzel Washington and Training Day. No, not at all. All right, so we're gonna check that out. And all these matches come from there. I'm pretty sure there's a lot of promos. We got a couple of big matches. Oh, I had watched this months ago, and it was one of my favorite matches because I love Chris Candido, and Chris Candido dresses up as Taz in this. It's so funny. But, yeah, we're gonna get that. So let's get into it. All right, so I'll give Countdown, as always, three down to one. I'll say play, and when I say play, we all click play. All good? Yes.

Speaker C:

All good.

Speaker B:

Yes. Three, two, one, play.

Speaker A:

Why'd you do it, Rick R. Yeah. Why'd you turn your back back on ec?

Speaker B:

All right, so they're in that turn

Speaker A:

your back on sandman. And Tommy Dreamer.

Speaker B:

School. Not school, but

Speaker C:

yeah. I mean, it looks like a school, but it's. It's the Bert Flickinger center in Buffalo. Right.

Speaker B:

Like a town hall type school.

Speaker C:

Actually. Maybe this is in Monaka, though.

Speaker B:

Yeah, you're right. Right.

Speaker C:

Either way, it look. It does look like a school.

Speaker A:

Not even a peak. It Buells mcgillicuddy.

Speaker B:

Nice play on words there by Rick Rude.

Speaker C:

Oh, a warm cooch.

Speaker B:

I want a pooch.

Speaker A:

Of dialysis.

Speaker B:

Oh, it's so funny. It's. You know, obviously Shane Douglas is the man here, but if Rick Rude was capable of continuing on wrestling, he's the dude. He's not Shane Douglas.

Speaker C:

Yep. They. They would have to have run some sort of a Douglas versus Rude, like, dissension in the ranks of the triple threat type angle with Shane honestly being the. The face, which is a weird thought, right? Yeah. In a more morbid note, only Francine and Shane are still around. All the rest of those guys are sadly gone.

Speaker B:

Holy.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

All right, let's lay out for Shane Douglas. As usual,

Speaker A:

we set the trail before us that ECW would follow. It was called the Night the Line Was Crossed. And I carried your ass for 60 minutes. I carried Sabu's ass for 60 minutes. You both walked to the dressing room. You were both carried to the back to take your break and hope to come out and defeat the franchise. But you could not do it, Terry Funk. You couldn't do it then, and you certainly will not do it on August 17th. Terry Funk. That night when I stood and looked you face to face face at that now famous press conference, I could see it in your eyes, Terry Funk. I could see your soul slipping away because you could sense that the sands of time were now running out, that that hourglass was running very damn short. The pages of your great legacy, of your legend have been blown to the past. They're shutting the COVID of that book, Terry Funk. And they're opening the book that they call franchise. And the legend that I begin to write, Terry funk, starts on August 17 at the second pay per view for this great organization that I built and the people behind me have supported and kept running and made now the best organization in The World today, August 17th. Terry Funk. It's my belt. It's my belt. And on August 17th, Terry Funk. I promise you they'll walk out of the arena calling me champion and you retired. Cause it's my belt. My belt. My belt.

Speaker B:

My belt.

Speaker A:

Yep.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker C:

I kind of dug his shirt there too. Except the grammar didn't make Sense.

Speaker B:

I don't read the whole thing.

Speaker C:

It said funk you. And then next to funkyou, it said, I'm for the. And then it said ECW franchise. So I'm for the ECW franchise. I. I mean, that's not completely ungrammatical, but it doesn't really make sense. It should just say, funk you. I'm the ECW franchise. Yeah.

Speaker B:

Simple, to the point, right? I thought Shane Douglas was a teacher.

Speaker C:

I thought so too.

Speaker B:

Wouldn't he have approval on that T shirt?

Speaker C:

You. You would hope so.

Speaker B:

What did he teach? Yeah, it's a big thing too. Here's. Well, history. All right. Yeah, I know, but I'm like calling myself out too.

Speaker C:

No, but you raise a good point of. Wouldn't you think he would at least have a, you know, say in like, what the design was?

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker A:

Yeah, I was.

Speaker B:

Dean Douglas. He spent so much time telling Diesel and Shawn Michaels how to cut promos. And in the classroom. Remember those segments, Rick?

Speaker C:

Yeah. Where he'd give. He'd give them an F for.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

Something. And it would change, obviously, but. And then he'd explain the. What the word meant. And it was definitely not like a I hate you heat. It was like a go home heat, you know, like xock heat.

Speaker B:

Yeah, right.

Speaker C:

Oh, that was a nice tornado DD by Mikey right there.

Speaker B:

That's right. All right, so we got a match going on here. So, Rick, what's going on with this match?

Speaker C:

Well, we got. We got former ECW World Heavyweight champion Mikey Whipwreck with a nice hurricane run against Rob Van Dam.

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker C:

Noting Rob Van Dam does not have any of his wrist tape or wrist wraps or anything on. Which looks weird now. They're on the floorware. Because it's New York, actually. No, it's not New York. They're in Pennsylvania. Why the. Do they have mats on the ground?

Speaker B:

Do they have mats? I didn't notice.

Speaker C:

Yeah, yeah. Like hand mats.

Speaker B:

Yeah, they're at the Golden Dome.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Manaka.

Speaker C:

Manaka. Nice sign in the front row. The franchise. It's not arrogance, it's greatness.

Speaker B:

Who the bought that sign? Someone.

Speaker C:

I don't know, but that's professionally printed. That's not.

Speaker B:

I'm gonna say who the from there.

Speaker C:

Jamie shop.

Speaker B:

They'd be like, yeah, print shop. Yeah. Made it all the way.

Speaker C:

Oh, yeah, you get. You guys used to do those, didn't you?

Speaker B:

Yeah, well, my grandfather owned the print shop too. I never.

Speaker C:

Oh, that's right. Yeah.

Speaker B:

How was printing in specialty? There's the name of it. Yeah. His big thing was Doing wedding cards, though.

Speaker C:

Oh, he'd like wedding invitations.

Speaker B:

Yeah. That was the big thing. Yeah.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

I mean, I would imagine that would be a big seller because you order a shitload of them, you know?

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

Trying to figure out what Mikey's T shirt is.

Speaker B:

Mikey getting up.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

At this point, Robin Dam is Mr. Monday Night, right?

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Oh, that's it.

Speaker C:

Frog splash.

Speaker B:

Splash. Hey,

Speaker C:

Five star rock splash slaps them.

Speaker B:

All right, I'm not gonna talk about Sabu anymore because apparently we get negative reviews because of Sabo.

Speaker C:

Yeah, we talk too much about Sabu.

Speaker B:

That won't stop me.

Speaker C:

Well, it's funny because Pru sent. Sent me the screenshot and I was like, just. Just wait because we're gonna talk way more about him in the coming years.

Speaker B:

It's like, I'm not trying to be an about it. I'm just like realizing I used to love Sabo and this is what it is.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Like, I was a kid and thought, oh, this is cool. And now I was like, oh, maybe not. So whoever the posted that. Are you still a child? Like, are you not able to recognize that he up. He up on the largest stages sometime like at Barely Legal where he has to run to the ropes and then jump off like, oh, I gotta redo this and then do it again, right?

Speaker C:

Come on.

Speaker B:

Like, he's not. He's not even smart enough to like, pretend. Like, oh, I. I tripped on the ropes. Like, that's what he should have done. Like, you hit the ropes and you up. Fall down and act like you hurt yourself. Then get up, right?

Speaker C:

Fake like you hurt your name.

Speaker B:

Come on, sell it. Right? Don't be like, oh, I up. Let me do it again. This isn't gym class.

Speaker C:

And the thing is, I. I mean, I. I don't want to speak for you two, but like, we would say that about anybody if they up. It's not just Sabu. He just happens to up a lot. You know, we. We love.

Speaker B:

Right. That wasn't. That's never been our gimmick is to say, oh, we're gonna. With Sabo.

Speaker C:

Yeah. No, no.

Speaker B:

We. With who up? I'm pretty sure I said I was excited for him and then. Yeah, then we're disappointed. But I will say, like, since past a few weeks or months of Sabu, we. He's been much better. Right. But 94, 95, 96, he sucked. Kinda. Yeah.

Speaker C:

Well, the thing is, is in 94, 95, a lot of the stuff he was trying to do, it was out to be, you know, innovative or Whatever.

Speaker B:

Which is. It was innovative. That's right.

Speaker C:

But at the same time, you're also. When you're trying to be innovative and it's something that's like a physical, you know, thing, you're bound to fuck it up unless you practice it, you know,

Speaker B:

that's the thing though, is

Speaker A:

when you.

Speaker B:

He was innovative. Yeah, give it to him. But the way that we're watching this and reviewing this is we're seeing it weekly. We're seeing him at his weakest at times. So it's easy for us to be like, oh, he sucked. So I, I get it that people like, oh, he, he doesn't suck. But we're seeing it consistently. It's like, yeah, he kind of sucked. As opposed to how people viewed it in 95, 94, whatever. Whatever the PWI said, which got us all excited. Like, oh, look at this guy. He's jumping off the ropes, going through the tables. That's what got us excited about him. But we didn't know he made all these mistakes.

Speaker A:

Nope.

Speaker B:

Right. So fine. That's why he got the big push, is because, oh, look, this is crazy. This is different.

Speaker C:

Right?

Speaker A:

I mean, and we, we understand that.

Speaker B:

We, We've said that numerous times that, yes, he had a huge impact on the style of wrestling because of that and because he went through tables and he dumped all the ropes and did all he did.

Speaker C:

Right.

Speaker B:

We, we recognize that.

Speaker C:

Yeah, yeah. 1995, the competition that you had the Dungeon of Doom and you had Smiling Diesel, the WWF champion.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

You know, and then you got Sabu jumping through tables.

Speaker B:

Right?

Speaker C:

So. Exactly. Totally different.

Speaker B:

Right. And what we're saying now, though is like, we're just saying that in, in terms of what we know, he. Plenty of time for him to turn it around. For me, I mean, I think last time, and he has turned it around. But when we criticize from 95, 96, when he's up, it's just like, we're just seeing it through this lens of watching it now. Like, so when somebody says, oh, I'm sick of this Sabuhe, it's like, shut the up about it. Because like, if you're just tuning into one episode, then off. I don't know. You know what I'm saying? Yep. Like, we've give, we've given Taboo so much, covered him so much.

Speaker C:

And it's like, like you said, he has been getting better. It's not. And we'll fully admit that, you know, but if it's calling a, you know, calling a spade a spade, if you Up. We're gonna call it out, but we'll also give you the credit when you're. When you're doing good and, you know,

Speaker B:

for whoever that random listener is. Maybe you haven't watched enough yet, or maybe you haven't listened to enough. Enough of our episodes go back to 93, 94 Sabu episodes that we've covered.

Speaker C:

Yeah, and what? And watch along, too.

Speaker B:

Yeah, watch along. And don't you get mad now. I shouldn't even give a. But whatever. Hey, I bet you like these titties that are on screen. That has nothing to do with us.

Speaker C:

Yeah, I know I do. I was saying that. That, that see through number with the thong. Hello.

Speaker B:

Hello?

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Hey, Francine. I don't appreciate those tits that you have right now. We appreciate them.

Speaker C:

We appreciate you, francine. Back in 1997. We appreciated you just as much, if not more. It's very, very appreciative some certain nights.

Speaker B:

Oh, Rick.

Speaker C:

Hello. Hey, did I ever. Did I ever tell. I must have told the story about my interaction with Francine on Twitter.

Speaker B:

No. Maybe. All right, bring it up.

Speaker C:

It bears telling. There you go again, real quick. So I don't know who it was. I was having a conversation with somebody back and forth on Twitter, like publicly. It wasn't on a dms, and we were saying about how, you know, Francine and Beulah and. And Don Marie and all the, the women at ecw, you know, we appreciated them and they're blah, blah, blah, and something about, you know, like that was, you know, they were the ones that had. That I had a crush on that kind of thing. And we had tagged somebody, tagged Francine in it, and she was like, oh, you guys, you're too sweet, or something like that. It was. It was something very, very minor, but it was just like she took the time out of her day to not only acknowledge it, but also to be appreciative of it. You know, it wasn't just like, oh, these guys are, you know, horny 12 year olds. I mean, I wasn't 12 writing that, but you get my point. Like, I'm talking about when I was 12.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

Hey, so. No, it's. I. So I appreciate that she just took the time out of her day to do that, you know?

Speaker B:

No, she. She seems to be very active on social media, on Twitter, X, whatever the.

Speaker A:

Right.

Speaker C:

Yeah, this was. This was a few years back, too, so it wasn't recently, but.

Speaker B:

Well, it's Twitter.

Speaker C:

Yeah, right. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's why I said it was Twitter, because it Was.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

All right, let's lay out and listen to the franchise. Got a promo. Why is everyone trying to compete with Rick Rude?

Speaker A:

Me

Speaker B:

and I talked about that recently.

Speaker C:

Well, why everybody's trying to compete with Rick Rude.

Speaker B:

Well, Paul Al tried to say he was better looking than Rick Rude. And Steve Austin,

Speaker A:

Charge of the most powerful force in wrestling today. They call it the triple threat.

Speaker B:

What are you saying? They call it the triple threat. Triple threat. All right.

Speaker A:

Fonzie.

Speaker B:

Oh, s. Billy Knight in the house. Doesn't set his lineup. Knows how to pull whistle, though. Sorry, You didn't hear me sneeze. Was that a fake sneeze? What was that? No, it was a real sneeze. All right, God bless you. Thanks.

Speaker A:

Hey, But you're looking at the greatest team in the world today. The greatest team in Japan, or the greatest team and respected wrestling organization in the United States. Or even his highly gravity wrestling.

Speaker B:

What a line to tell. RVD called Shane Douglas a weekend warrior.

Speaker A:

Here's the fact. This is a fact. The greatest team, the best team, the number one team in the world today.

Speaker B:

Straw. Sure. In wrestling, what do you do to off Vince McMahon?

Speaker C:

I know, right?

Speaker B:

To be a fly on the wall. Right. How do you not be able to come back? What happened? We got tired of funk here. The funster. Let's listen to this.

Speaker A:

A whole lot better than that because you, Shane Douglas and the Pittsburgh people are still. You do.

Speaker B:

Yeah. Monaca is near Pittsburgh, right?

Speaker C:

Yeah. Yeah. That's. That's why they were all going apeshit for. For Douglas because he's like the hometown her. Got a Donny Brook on our hands.

Speaker B:

Oh, the Donny Brook.

Speaker C:

Well, I mean, the locker room's emptying, you know.

Speaker B:

Oh, yeah, get. All right.

Speaker C:

It's not just. It's not just a couple people fighting. It's like Luis Bacalli's running out with no shoes on. Yeah. Little Guido Tracy Smothers

Speaker B:

no shoes on. Like little kid in like a real broken home or something. All right, so we got a little break here.

Speaker C:

What the. Jb. That was awesome.

Speaker B:

What I said. Running out with no shoes on. Like a little kid from a broken home. Mama. I'm all right. I'm all right over here, Little kid.

Speaker C:

It's awesome, though. All right, you going to. You going to read the notes?

Speaker B:

PR you want to read the notes?

Speaker C:

Yeah, let's. Let's dip into at least the shows before the show.

Speaker B:

All right. I'll do show results. All right.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

The show Rostravel, Pennsylvania. I think that's the name it's at The Ice Garden, August 1, 1997, with an attendance of 800 people. And Chronis defeating Lewis McCauley Supernova defending Barry Hardy. Barry Hardy. Old WWF Java, very hard. Yeah, right.

Speaker C:

The Executioner.

Speaker A:

That should have been.

Speaker B:

They should have made them into a real tag team. Barry Hardy and D. Yeah, just a beat up tag team. Anyway, we got another beat up tag team and that's Tracy Smothers and Little Guido. And they actually defeat the Os. I don't know. The. The little tools are but two Spanish people that got beat. That's all I know. And. I was looking for a laugh there, but I guess not. Taz as the TV champion defeated Wolfie D. That's all right. Axel Ron defeated Chris Chetty get beat by Shane Douglas. Autaz. I was getting beat up by crazy ass Axel Ron. In another match, we got Mickey, Mikey Whitbrick and Spike Dudley defeating Bobby Duncan Jr. And Jason. It seems like Bobby Duncan Jr. And Jason are being left off TV for whatever reason. But yeah, no, you know that. Anyway, and taking losses. Another big match coming up here. We got the triple threat. Shane Douglas. Bam Bam Bigelow, Chris Candido. They defeat the Dudley boys. And this version of the team is Bubba Devon and Big Dick. Big Dick. Big match here. RVD beats up some balls. That's big balls. In the main event, Sabu defeats Tommy Dreamer.

Speaker C:

There's some Jason now.

Speaker B:

We got a promo. It's J Dog. Jason promo. Let's take a listen. Jv. What is that machine called? Is that. I can't see. It looks like a chest press.

Speaker C:

A chest press?

Speaker B:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a chest. I was the one that name though, because that was like product. I don't use that. He's real Bench Bow Flex, something like that. Think Bowflex was a brand just like N was like a style of machine. The Nautilus. Yeah, but it's a chest press. Yeah.

Speaker C:

So I looked up Los Cholos. They.

Speaker B:

I knew you were gonna look up those cholos.

Speaker C:

You got ta Ray Infernal and Guerrero Negro, junior.

Speaker B:

I don't know.

Speaker C:

I don't know any of them.

Speaker B:

I don't. No negro to me.

Speaker C:

No negro.

Speaker B:

No black, I guess.

Speaker C:

Yeah. And that would be the junior Black warrior, I guess. Yeah.

Speaker B:

Black warrior. Well, that's a good name. Yeah.

Speaker C:

And then I don't know what kota means, but I mean, Tigressa. C o T. A Kota Lawler completely

Speaker A:

ruined your sex life with Bua. I guess nothing.

Speaker B:

I don't know either.

Speaker A:

Ruining your entire wrestling Career in one single match. It's going to happen.

Speaker B:

I like to pretend sometimes that I know Spanish because my, My wife is of Spanish descent and my mother in law is from Colombia, so.

Speaker C:

Right.

Speaker B:

Yeah, Yeah, I kind of know. So.

Speaker A:

No, he's got. Well, these are for being in Barb Wire.

Speaker B:

I don't pay attention.

Speaker A:

This stands for victory, stands for bravery. It stands for K. I mean, look at the guy. He's a freak, for goodness sakes. And if you.

Speaker C:

I love, I love this aspect of their relationship where he, they talk about Sabu and Sabu like chokes him or hits him or whatever. And he's like, hey, hey, hey, what are you doing? We're on the team. Sorry, I was just joking. He's up. It's just like RVD doesn't give a. About anybody else but himself.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

But then as soon as he gets confronted, he's like, oh, wait, hey, I don't fight you.

Speaker B:

Yeah, leave me the alone.

Speaker C:

Right. And that, that will continue too. That's my favorite part is they.

Speaker B:

That's what builds up that going.

Speaker C:

Yeah, right, yeah.

Speaker B:

Build up to the field.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker A:

Well.

Speaker C:

And I like it because how many times have you seen. Have we seen in wrestling these two guys who are like mortal enemies, they hate each other. They have this huge feud going on, and then all of a sudden they're a tag team and they're best friends.

Speaker B:

Right. And then together, right. Then they fight. So it should be.

Speaker C:

Right. It should be a thing where, like, we had a feud going on. Okay. We both recognize that we're very good at what we do and when there's respect between us. But I'm still not your buddy. Like, I, I'm still gonna kick your ass if you start disrespecting me, you know?

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker C:

So. So it makes sense. And I like that aspect of. Of it, you know, that's like, yeah,

Speaker B:

we're all trying to make the most money we can. We want to win championships.

Speaker C:

Right. If you're talking about me, doesn't mean I'm gonna. Because we're. We're a tag team. I'm gonna overlook it.

Speaker B:

Yeah. And that's what was like the realistic approach to ecw.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Oh, what is this? What do we got here?

Speaker C:

New Jack getting his ass beat by the Dudleys. Well, while we were talking, I heard him say something about gonorrhea. So not. I'm not sure if he's saying he had it or he's like gonorrhea or something. I don't know. Meanwhile, there's The Moths vending machine.

Speaker B:

He's gonna like it. He's gonna give it.

Speaker C:

Yes.

Speaker B:

Oh, yeah. This isn't. Oh, that was quick. What the RN Douglas got the titles. New Jackson, the Hospital Mustafa. Where is he? In jail again, probably.

Speaker C:

Yeah, he's too up smoking his. His weed with the pencil shavings in it. I love that story. I don't know why, I just. I love that story.

Speaker B:

Oh, boy. All right, let's lay out for this,

Speaker A:

right, the quintessential circumstances. Stud Muffin, the man with the fur.

Speaker B:

Davey's missing this.

Speaker A:

And a chest to match Joel. Sweet dreams are made of this. Gertner, reminding you about what transpired at Heatwave 97. You see, the gangsters somehow managed to defeat the Dudley Boys and win the ECW World Tag Team Championships. And I'll bet that the gangster thought that winning those titles would be the happiest day of their life. Every contract you see has stipulations. One stipulation was that if the Dudleys did not show up to Hardcore.

Speaker B:

Oh, you're back just in time. We're laying out for this promo from sunny Fort Lauderdale. Oh, your boy, Joel Co. Or DirecTV

Speaker A:

to order that I would shave my head and my chest. However, there's another stipulation that we must look at. The fact that Extreme Championship Wrestling is contractually obligated to have a World Tag team title defense on that pay per view broadcast. Now, we know that Mustafa is, was, and will continue to be in the hospital. And since his medical sheet has mental jello written on it, I don't think there's a chance he's getting out anytime soon. As for New Jack, well, that unfortunate skirmish that he was involved in, which obviously had nothing to do with the Dudley Boys, the one that you saw last night week on tv, I think that might preclude him from making it as well. And if New Jack and Mustafa, the Gangsters as a unit cannot be at that pay per view, well, that puts ECW in a rather hairy situation. The gangsters then would be stripped of the World Tag Team titles. Some teams has to defend those belts. I have just the option. I must reiterate that the team that should show up at hardcore 97, thus helping me keep my head hair and my lovely chest hair, the viewer's choice, you know, are the only team strong enough and healthy enough to do just that and appear at that pay per view. You see, whether you prefer only the strong survive, whether you prefer the scum always rises to the top of the ocean, or whether you Prefer in the village of the blind, the one eyed man is king. Use any corny cliche you want. The only team healthy enough to make it to Fort Lauderdale is coincidentally, the only team in history to win the titles by virtue of losing the match. And you thought attorneys were the only ones that had pull. I'm not just Harry. I'm so good, Bubba Ray.

Speaker B:

What does that even mean? Yeah, just because I'm Harry former. That anything? All right.

Speaker C:

Yeah, I'm. I'm not just Harry. I'm really good. Like, what does that even mean?

Speaker B:

What the Harry going to be with any. If I. If. If Harry is any man.

Speaker A:

Wait a minute. Wait a minute, Brother G. These belts

Speaker B:

don't belong to us.

Speaker A:

This ain't my belt.

Speaker B:

This is old.

Speaker A:

They don't belong to either.

Speaker B:

They don't belong to. That.

Speaker A:

The gangsters.

Speaker B:

Bells.

Speaker A:

We. We. The gangsters. We told you that last week. Don't you listen to us, boy. That's right. The gangsters. No, shut up. I'm talking. These belong to the gangsters. Gangsters. You. Come on. You take your belts. His Mustafa here's new Jack. Just come and take them, please. You know what? You may be the best tag team in the world. The Eliminator used to be all right.

Speaker B:

Why are we sweating all this time?

Speaker C:

I'm confused.

Speaker B:

I like this promo.

Speaker A:

He ain't nothing without his other ball boy. With him with all tattoos. Get back to the gangster.

Speaker B:

Best tag team in the world.

Speaker A:

Please. Just come and take these belts. They're too damn heavy. I go through the airport. I gotta unpack my bag. Every damn time that I go through the metal detector. They lost. You beat us where your. Then again, you can't take them from us. Maybe you try to get out of the hospital because Gustavo's all like, you know what? Maybe we'll just come to the damn hospital. Maybe we'll just beat you up right there. Maybe. Big dick want to unplug your damn life preserver. Life preserver? Life supporter. Got me all damn crazy. I don't even know what I'm saying.

Speaker B:

Now he it up.

Speaker C:

But see, that's how you recover.

Speaker B:

Just make a joke of it.

Speaker A:

Please come and take them. They're all yours, Brother Gardner. Look, right there. They're all yours. We're gonna give to Brother Gardner. Just come. I'll give you his phone number. It's 976India. Just come and take the damn bell.

Speaker B:

9, 7, 6, in. You.

Speaker A:

Just tell him. But my hair. Bubba, I don't care about your damn hair. I Don't care about shaking chest your hair. I don't care how to shave it down. You know, just give them back the belts. They deserve them. They're theirs. They beat us. We is B I T C H is I S is I S. What part do you understand?

Speaker B:

Bobby, get all these balls. Tell big dick to shut up. Oh, man, that threw me for a loop. Those are dumbbells. No, I know. Jamie? Jamie, is that you in the gym? There you go. This is. This is me at the gym. Oh, no, no, no. Not fake Taz. I got you.

Speaker C:

I was gonna say, you don't walk in. You don't walk in there with a shredded towel over your head.

Speaker B:

Oh, it's Chris Candido. That's why I said not fake Taz. Hey, you're Chris Candido too, so shut up. Don't wanna bite the hand that feeds you. Oh, man. There was so much to talk about with that promo, but I. I just wanted to hear Bubba because that was the first time he really spoke a mistake.

Speaker A:

This really is.

Speaker B:

That's the first real Bubba promo, right?

Speaker C:

That being ext extension extensive one. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker B:

They have good points to make, right? All right. Obviously, Chris Candida is going to up spike here, which is fine side both of these guys solid wrestlers. So I love this. Chris Candido dressed like this is fighting with fire here, right?

Speaker C:

Oh, yeah.

Speaker B:

Chris Candido is asking for a kazah. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker C:

He's. He's asking for an ass kicking.

Speaker B:

What? If we're being realistic, Chris Candido versus Taz, that's a fair matchup, man. Like we're talking about Chris Candido before what Taz character is. I'm down with Chris Candido as a. I don't know. You know what? Taz has gone for him. He's a great wrestler, but he. What he has going from in addition is I'll you up, brother. Like, that's part of the appeal.

Speaker C:

Yeah, the attitude, right?

Speaker B:

Shut the up. I'll you up. I'll give you a suplex. Like all that.

Speaker C:

Like he'll fight anybody, right? He's not. He's not here to make friends. He's here to kick ass.

Speaker B:

Right? But that's an intimidation move, right?

Speaker C:

Right.

Speaker B:

When you're. When you're that stature.

Speaker C:

Oh, exactly.

Speaker B:

There's no I'll toss anybody around. Well, now we're at this point where Taz is on the rise as being the top guy. You got Chris Candido dressing like him. Why can't Chris Candido be a viable competitor against him? He should Be. Because he is probably better than tets.

Speaker C:

Yeah. And I mean, think about it. Think about it. Can. Holy. Sorry.

Speaker B:

Spike likes to take those drops.

Speaker C:

Yeah. He almost landed on his head.

Speaker B:

I did, I think.

Speaker C:

Did he?

Speaker B:

I think he did.

Speaker C:

But Candido versus Taz for the TV title. Like that makes perfect sense.

Speaker B:

It does. Oh, crowds chant for Taz.

Speaker C:

It's going for the blonde Bombshell bomb.

Speaker B:

Bombshell.

Speaker C:

Yeah, that's what I said, Joey.

Speaker B:

Great call, Rick. You know, you're a old Smokey Mountain. Yeah, no kidding.

Speaker C:

And he sits on him. Sits on him to pin the guy. So he taking a shot at Taz with the. The outfit and then a spike for how he pinned him.

Speaker B:

Oh, that's right. This is Chris Candido's entrance music, right?

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Back in. Is it banging Bl.

Speaker C:

It is.

Speaker A:

Hey, Candido. Pretty good.

Speaker B:

All right, let's listen to Taz.

Speaker A:

400 miles away from me, and you're playing mind games. Well, you should play mind games when you're 400 miles away. Funny. You know, you're an entertaining guy. That's what you do. You entertain the people. You're used to working in a place that entertains the people. And, you know, you make guys mad. Ooh, you made Taz mad. Oh, you didn't make me mad. You can't get to me. Hey, man, I'm from Brooklyn, you know, Joe. Cool. I don't get mad, you know. Now, if I were to get mad, you know, I might do something different to you. You know, I might do something like this, you know,

Speaker B:

a headlock. TikTok.

Speaker C:

Well, I think he had the guy's arm trapped in, like, between his legs, so it was kind of stretching his neck muscles, but. Yeah,

Speaker B:

right. Come on.

Speaker C:

I know.

Speaker B:

I'm trying to make it cheap.

Speaker C:

Okay. He smacked him on the ass. Good job.

Speaker B:

He's. He's put his finger in his butthole.

Speaker C:

He's checking his oil.

Speaker B:

This is a great segment.

Speaker C:

Oh, dude, he almost snapped that guy in half, bending him over Sano.

Speaker B:

Oh, you got. You got the K on. But I. What I love is, like. It reminded me of the Joker from Batman. You want to get nuts? Let's get nuts.

Speaker A:

Let's get nuts. The world heavyweight title on the line. The ropes come down.

Speaker C:

Born to be wired. Proof.

Speaker B:

Yeah. Born to be wired. That's coming up on the next episode.

Speaker C:

It is now.

Speaker B:

We're gonna get to that. That's a big one.

Speaker C:

It is. I. I say this, and I don't mean it lightly. It is disturbing footage. And what if you see the whole match.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I don't know what we're gonna see.

Speaker C:

Yeah,

Speaker B:

you have to let us know what we're missing out on.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Haven't looked at the original footage, have

Speaker C:

you, have you ever seen. You've never seen it?

Speaker B:

No, I haven't seen it, but okay, but I don't know what we're gonna see, right?

Speaker C:

Yeah, no, I didn't look. I haven't watched ahead either.

Speaker A:

You just don't know.

Speaker B:

All right, let's take a listen to Terry Funk here.

Speaker A:

How much I think of Texas. You know, they're my two favorite places. You know, Philadelphia adopted me and Amarillo I love because it's my home. But you know, there's those places that I hate in this world. I'm talking about Pittsburgh. And why am I talking about Pittsburgh? Because they hate. Have a bunch of ignorant people up there, the same as Shane Douglas. They're inbreds. And now I find out that I am headed to Fort Lauderdale, Florida, for Lauderdale. You know, I haven't been back in that state in 10 years. Do you, you know why I left that state? I'll tell you exactly why I left that state. Because of all of the stupid crackers and that thick pig lipped, egg sucking dog, Dusty Rose. I decided I was going to leave the state and never, never come back. And I haven't come back. But now I'm coming back for the pay per view. It's not the crackers that are the problem. It's the Haitians. It's the people from Haitians, the people from all over the south that have come in there and infiltrated, infiltrated Miami, infiltrated southern Florida. And what happened? Those stupid, ignorant crackers. You know what they did? They educated those people. Do you know what they taught them? I'll tell you what they taught them. They taught those people how to murder. They taught those people how to do this car robbing, where they jump into cars, hit you in the heads. They taught them rape. They taught them insanity. It's the crackers that did that, you stupid. Florida. But now I have to come back there. The pride of Philadelphia, the pride of Amarillo, Texas. And where do I have to go? Florida. I want to go home. Home where I belong. And home is where I'll be in the very near future because I am getting out of the stinking professional wrestling business. But I am not getting out without this belt. If it takes my last breath, if it takes my last ounce of strength, I am going to give it that. Oh, now look at what I am Looking at. I am looking at Sabu in a barbed wire match. Look. Look at my body. Do I damn well care. Look at my arms. Look at my head. God, I've been in matches like that before. And yeah, I get butterflies and yes, I do quiver a bit. But I am not afraid of any man and I am not afraid of Shabu. And I am going to walk out of that Philadelphia arena right through that barbed wire with my hand raised above my head, and I am going to walk to Florida with every one of you people, all of you crackers, all of you pigs, no dogs, no dog crap, pig crap, cow crap, horse crap. That's all there is down there is anymore, is a bunch of crap. And I am going to walk into that arena and I am going to be on that pay per view and I am going to go through that match with Sabu and I am going to beat him. And I am going to walk away from the professional wrestling world with this belt around my waist. That belt is a promise, damn promise that I will keep.

Speaker C:

It away.

Speaker B:

Oh. All right.

Speaker C:

That was like the most bat shot, insane promo, but it worked so well. I don't. But I don't know if, like, I don't know if he's supposed to be the heel now because he's talking about crackers and what they did to the people of Florida or if he's supposed to be the good guy, but I don't care. It was awesome.

Speaker B:

No, it was amazing.

Speaker C:

Yes.

Speaker B:

When Terry Fung talks, we shut up and we listen. And every time is gold always. Man

Speaker A:

up. The Funk Brothers versus the Public Enemy, the Sandman.

Speaker B:

So I'm pretty sure that's the last segment of the match of the show other than, you know, this recap. They're playing like some Dracula music.

Speaker C:

Yeah, Phantom of the Opera, something like that.

Speaker B:

All right, so. And that was great. Whole great first half episode, I think. I think they getting really good.

Speaker A:

Most historic in the four year history of extreme championship wrestling. Barbed wire matchup this Saturday night at the ECW arena pay per view, Sunday night, August 17th. I encourage you to be a part of any or all of it.

Speaker B:

All right, so Joey Styles hyping up. All this is from the Pennsylvania show. Yep. Getting up. Lewis probably just wearing shirts and pants at this time. Oh, there's Jason all jacked up. Something must have been wrong with him too, because, like he's all jacked up and looks good.

Speaker C:

Well, yeah, he must have been injured or something.

Speaker B:

He's not used for anything really ever. Like. Yeah, you look Good. You look jacked up. But

Speaker C:

apparently he wrestled on that. On the Monaka show. Just.

Speaker B:

Yeah, well, he wrestles to get beat. You know what I mean, Java.

Speaker C:

Right, right, right. Yeah, but that's what I'm doing. Well, that. That's. What do you call it? Proving my theory wrong that he was injured, because clearly he was not.

Speaker B:

No, no.

Speaker C:

Can I be next for Beulah to do that? Oh, I'm okay with that.

Speaker B:

Just get tossed in the corner.

Speaker C:

Yeah, she could put her hands around me and throw me in the corner. I don't care. I just don't want Tommy Dreamer touching me after.

Speaker B:

Yeah, well, that. That's the. That's probably the deal. You gotta.

Speaker C:

Yeah, all right. I guess we could broker that deal. That's fine.

Speaker B:

You get tossed in the corner, then Tommy gets his way with you.

Speaker C:

Yeah, well, I don't know about that.

Speaker B:

No, no, thanks. I would like a Bronco Buster from Buell

Speaker C:

or Francine. That works.

Speaker B:

Yeah, Francine, definitely

Speaker C:

for you.

Speaker B:

Of all the ECW women, who would you take? A Bronco Buster?

Speaker C:

Oh, if I had to choose, yes,

Speaker B:

would be the best for your purposes.

Speaker C:

Ms. Congeniality, we haven't seen yet.

Speaker B:

Okay.

Speaker C:

If we're talking about right now, Beulah,

Speaker B:

so we know where you're going in the future, but yeah, all right. Abuela, at this point.

Speaker C:

At this point,

Speaker B:

JP's like, what are you guys talking about? I just saw the start of the next paper. The next episode. Yeah, no, we gotta stop. We went on because we were talking about who's gonna give us Bronco Busters. Imagine that. Who. Who besides Xbox used the Brill

Speaker C:

in. I'm trying. There have been a few people, but Rey Mysterio did in wcw.

Speaker B:

Yeah, that's right.

Speaker C:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker B:

But I want a Bronco. Yeah. I'm not gonna say but. Yeah, that's funny that we have left off that way.

Speaker C:

That's right. That's how we ended that episode was they had a highlights package and we're talking about which. Which girl do we want to. To bronco bus us?

Speaker B:

I mean, any of them, I guess, right? Yeah, maybe.

Speaker C:

I don't know. I'm okay. I'm okay with. With Jazz not bronco bustering me, but that's.

Speaker B:

Yeah, that's fine. She probably break my story, right?

Speaker C:

Yeah, exactly.

Speaker B:

Something like that. Now we got to be careful, I guess, too.

Speaker C:

No, no, no shade on Jazz. Because I. I like jazz.

Speaker B:

Yeah. Jazz is a badass. Yeah, but I don't need a badass. Plus my sternum right. Either. I don't like who else here. Oh, brah goes into the corner Storm first. It's that post. No, I don't need a running into my chest like that either.

Speaker C:

Right.

Speaker B:

So anyway. All right, so that's enough of that. So that's the first episode that we're covering here of ECW hardcore tv now, the fun one obviously. And. That was fun though. Terry Funk had a great promo. It was promo filled. Really bad. Terry Funk. We kind of sat around for Joe Gartner. 1. We like Joe Garner, but we do. He might get overplayed. I think we'll see. I don't like. He better step. Step it up because I'm starting to get sick of his.

Speaker C:

Right, right. Yeah.

Speaker B:

But I want to get heat. Oh, Joe Garner is the best thing ever. We. We'll see. Everyone thinks Zabu is the best thing ever.

Speaker C:

Two. Two stars. The gner hate is unreal.

Speaker B:

But dude, I love Chris Candido dressed as Taz doing Taz moves because Chris Candido is the guy to do. So. I. I love that match that he has with Spike Dudley, who is a very. Spike. Yes. Very capable wrestler. He's awesome. I love him. So that was all good. And let's get right into it. We'll move on. Break song. I don't know if you guys want. I'm throwing something out there. I think we maybe played it before. I'm not positive. But it. Because there was something special that happened in the news. I don't know if you guys know last couple weeks, but there was a original recording or. Yeah, it was a personal recording that was found of Talking Heads Psycho Killer. And this group banded together at RISD Rhode Island School of Design in Providence, Rhode island. And they did like their original recording of that song and they just let somebody else have it. And then it like, let's come to terms like, oh, this is. This is the original recording of that song of Psycho Killer, which was one of their first hits ever. And it just came about. So.

Speaker C:

So you're saying the people from RISD are not Talking Heads? Like Talking Heads didn't write the song?

Speaker B:

No, the. This. The band talk. The Talking Heads people. They were originally students.

Speaker C:

That's what I. That's what I thought. But yeah, yeah, that's what I thought I thought. But then I was like, are you saying that there was a different group of students that wrote the song and recorded and then let Talking Heads take it, so to speak?

Speaker B:

But no, it was them. They recorded it. They stored it away. They let somebody else like have the recording. And then, okay, it's come full circle. That ended up being in the hands of risd. You realize, oh, this. These were our former students that recorded this. Like, this is the original version of it. And they brought it to Talking Heads main people. Yeah, like, yes, this is us. And the Talking Heads told them, yeah, you can keep it. But yeah, give us. Yeah, we keep it for you. Because we went there and all that. So it's like. It's a cool story, all the details, but it's awesome. And take a listen to this song. Talking Heads. Psycho killer. Awesome. I can't seem to face up to the facts.

Speaker A:

I'm tense and nervous and I capitalize

Speaker B:

I can't sleep cause my bed's on

Speaker A:

fire don't touch me I'm a real live wire. Psycho killer. Run, run, run run run run run away. Oh, psychopath. A conversation you can't even finish it. You're talking a lot but you're not saying anything. When I have nothing to say, my lips are sealed. Say something once, why say it again? Psycho killer Kisses. Run away. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We are faint and we are blind. I hate people when they're not alive. Psycho killer. Oh, Sa.

Speaker B:

All right, we're back now for the next episode of ECW Hardcore tv. And hope you guys enjoyed that. Sorry, that's Talking Heads. And yeah, I'm not talking to anybody. But yeah, this is the next episode of Easter Yaga TV and we are covering Eastw Haku TV from August 12th of 1997. It's easy to be hardcore TV 225 and if it's on a peacock at this point, whatever the. It's season five, episode 33 and we're gonna watch this, but we're gonna watch it on the Internet Archive. So if you want to check it out, just search Internet Archive. And Rick, what's the best way to search the Internet Archive episodes?

Speaker C:

Well, you go on to Internet Archive and you look up WCE softcore TV 1997.

Speaker B:

Yeah. So Rick gave you the details, but it's basically backwards, right?

Speaker C:

Yeah, yep. And any ECW stuff, it you gotta backwards to the point where there is also all of the pay per views are available and they write the word pay per View. The words Pay per View backwards.

Speaker B:

So.

Speaker C:

Right. It's like yap something or other.

Speaker B:

That's correct. That's correct.

Speaker C:

Right.

Speaker B:

That's okay. All right, so anyway, hopefully you guys have the information and you're in tune with us for the Internet archive with a WCE 1997. I'm surprised it's not WCE 799 1.

Speaker C:

Right.

Speaker B:

Whatever the. Anyway, yeah, we're gonna run time about 53 minutes. And we're still in Monaca a little bit. Just for a little bit. And that was the August 2, 1997 so show. But we're gonna get a big one. And. And I used to love when we had the big special shows that we would cover because this is one show that I would like to just cover on its own. But we ain't got time for that.

Speaker C:

Ain't nobody got time for that.

Speaker B:

And it's Born To Be Wide. Born To Be Wide. Sorry, everyone's ears.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Born to Be Wide. And that's a great show, right, you know.

Speaker A:

Oh, yeah.

Speaker B:

Looking forward to the show.

Speaker C:

Yep, it's a very good show.

Speaker B:

And this was in ECW Internet on August 9, 1997. And spotlight show. This could have been a pay per view show. And it's so crazy that they have this just so close to hardcore heaven as their next pay per view show. I don't know. Like,

Speaker C:

yeah, it's. It is a. It is a bit odd. Had such a big event, so to speak, and then like a month later they have the pay per view.

Speaker B:

But, like, hey, did they. They must have thought they needed to build to the ECW in a crowd, right?

Speaker C:

Yeah, I mean, I. I guess we

Speaker B:

gotta give them a great show because we're not doing the Pay per View there. Let's give them a great show.

Speaker C:

Yeah, I mean, and also, they have been doing the Super Cards since, what night was it, 93, that they were technically Supercruise. Yeah, yeah. Because the Super Summer Spectacular, right. With the angel titty.

Speaker B:

But even still, that didn't mean anything at the time.

Speaker C:

No, no, no, no. But my point being is that they were doing super cards and whatnot back then, so it's just kind of. They've been doing them, so you might as well continue doing them because we're not doing pay per views every month. But yeah, it doesn't really make a lot of sense to have such a big match card. Whatever you want to say a month before your pay per view, like why you wouldn't wait till the pay per view to. To do some of this stuff. But again, you know, hindsight's 20 20. Yeah.

Speaker B:

All right, so you guys all ready to go? Yes. All right, so as I always do, I'll give a countdown, three down to one, then say play. When I say play, we all click play. And this is again. ECW Hot Girl TV Episode 225 August 12, 1997. 3, 2, 1, light. All right, so we're in the middle of a match here. Is that what I got here? Yeah, it looks like.

Speaker C:

Yeah. He. At this point, because we didn't see it, he was placed on the table, wrapped in barbed wire. And then Sabu dove off of the ring because you can see they have no ropes. They had cut the rope down the. The barbed wire down, and Sabu did a leg drop and put him through the table. So that's why he was convulsing like he was having a seizure. And now you got Terry Funk all wrapped up in barbed wire and drag ripping the ring apron in with him.

Speaker B:

Look at this. Bob wire at Terry Funk. Holy.

Speaker C:

Now notice Sabu does not have a shirt on. Funk's at least smart enough to wear a shirt.

Speaker B:

Well, that's why Sample's so awesome, because he doesn't wear a shirt, right? Yeah, and he's. He doesn't. He's not afraid of rubbing his against. All right, sorry. But let's see. Is Sabu great right now? Let's watch. We're just being a. Nah, jv, you're the one to tell me if I'm a. Okay.

Speaker C:

And he does it again.

Speaker B:

JV knows that I'm probably the most likely not a person in the world. So if I'm being a. It's probably truth. Look at this show.

Speaker C:

See you. You can see this was an intense match because Fonzie's shirt is all ripped up and Fonzie is bleeding up. His back is all bloody.

Speaker B:

All right, so we. All right, so, Rick, we. We saw this match, right? This. Oh, this is from Born to Be Wild, right?

Speaker C:

Yeah, this is. This is the. The Born to Be Wired match.

Speaker B:

This is just highlights.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

So we haven't seen all this.

Speaker A:

Nope, nope.

Speaker B:

Yeah, what a show. Crap.

Speaker C:

Yeah, they're all. They're stuck together in the barbed wire now there to the point of. You can see Fonzie's like, helping them climb into the ring.

Speaker B:

The one thing I miss about Amazing thing, not having the pay per view era that we're into now is being able to do specials on shows like this, Right? Because if there were no pay per views, we might just do a whole show on this. This is one of the shows I'm so interested in. This is ridiculous. Yep. Is this human centipede?

Speaker C:

Almost.

Speaker B:

Yeah, man, You ain't wrong. What?

Speaker C:

Sabu defeats Terry Funk for the ECW World Heavyweight championship on a two count. No, it was a three count. But he. He was like, barely covering them because he couldn't really get on top of them. Hey, is this the first time that we're hearing the Harry Slash and the Slash Tones intro this song?

Speaker B:

Yes.

Speaker C:

Yeah. Is this the first time we're hearing this?

Speaker B:

We haven't heard this before.

Speaker C:

That's what I'm wondering. Is this the first time we've heard it?

Speaker B:

Oh, I feel like I've heard it my whole life, but you know what I mean? Yeah, One of those things.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

It's like. I don't know when I heard it the first time. Are you right?

Speaker A:

That.

Speaker C:

That. I don't know. That's what I'm saying. Cuz I know in the re Releases, I guess is the best way to put it. Of Barely Legal, they put it. It's on there, but I don't know if it was on the original pay per View. And obviously they. They've been using Thunderkist65 for. For the intro for a while, but I don't remember. I don't remember hearing this as the intro for hardcore tv, Reese, you know, recently or before.

Speaker B:

All right, well, let's see if the next episode has it and you can check in. Yeah, we can research it, try out this. It's extreme. It's funny how it's like instant. You know what the. It says. With the new. All right, so Hardcore Heaven weekend is coming up. This is extreme.

Speaker A:

You will see two men lose and one man win to walk out of Fort Lauderdale, Florida, or be carried out as the ECW World Heavyweight Champion.

Speaker B:

Francine will be defended as well as

Speaker A:

the Human Suplex Machine Tech will be challenged by Mr. No gimmicks needed Chris Candido in a Purist's dream match. Plus the World Tag Team Champions Purist Dream Match.

Speaker B:

That. He said Purist dream match.

Speaker C:

Yeah, like a wrestling purist, you know? In other words, it's Taz and Candido. They're both, you know, technical wrestlers. Is not brawling. No. Barbed wire. No. Hey, it's how snow.

Speaker B:

Just wrestling, geniuses. It's wrestling. We're still going to do that episode, right? Yeah, that's our next episode. We're going to do it. Yeah. Just ra. People have been listening to Bottom Line Wrestling Cats again. When we put our episodes, they start going,

Speaker C:

Spike's losing his.

Speaker B:

Deliver. I was going to say a appropriate word, but. Friend,

Speaker C:

what stopped you before?

Speaker B:

This is.

Speaker C:

Yeah, you know, I get it.

Speaker B:

What do you mean? It's about. I haven't slept before we.

Speaker C:

No, I'm just saying we don't censor ourselves on this show some more as we do. Yeah, no, I know. I do believe that this is a very well known match for. For one moment.

Speaker B:

Yeah. Get the up. No, not this one. Is it.

Speaker C:

It's not this one. Do you know what I'm talking about?

Speaker B:

Bam Bam Spike. Yeah, yeah. Not until the pay per view, right?

Speaker C:

Oh, okay. Maybe it is the pay per view.

Speaker B:

Yeah. I don't think this is the spot

Speaker A:

match have been signed.

Speaker C:

Okay.

Speaker B:

And him up.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Maybe he tosses them into the crowd. Is that what you talking about?

Speaker C:

Yes, that's exactly.

Speaker B:

Oh, okay, listen. All right, let's see.

Speaker C:

We will. Also of note is the new ring aprons and the new hanging up. And the fact that Peewee has on a different red and black shirt.

Speaker B:

Yes, right.

Speaker C:

The referee shirt.

Speaker B:

And he did not get paid more for wearing that.

Speaker C:

No, no, they got. They got. They gotta buy the shirts and the banners and stuff. You know, they can't afford to pay. Peewee. The pebble. That's what you were calling him.

Speaker B:

Bam. Wasn't that a song?

Speaker C:

Yeah, that was in wwf.

Speaker B:

Yeah, that was. Yeah. Bam Bam. Great. Very underrated. The Bam Bam original music as a baby Faces would consider to be one of the most popular songs. And it was like not available online for so long. And then just recently somebody was able to piece it together and created the Bam Bam music.

Speaker C:

You're talking when he was like in the 80s.

Speaker B:

Yeah, like 87. Yeah, 87.

Speaker C:

Yeah. The. The, like the jazz. Yeah, yeah. It's a cool tune. Yeah.

Speaker B:

Oh, it's great. Well, someone was able to isolate it and take the music and it's out there finally. And it's great. What's great about it is though, it just sounds like music from like what Resin Challenge was WWF Spotlight.

Speaker C:

Yeah, it's just like bumper music. It's not. It's not specific.

Speaker B:

Yeah, it was all. Whoever was making music for WWF at the time was just producing a bunch of.

Speaker C:

Yeah, like Jim Johnson, I think was at that point for the most part.

Speaker B:

Yeah, probably. And he just made this Bam Bam music that he didn't know it was going to be Bam music. It became Bambam music and people love it.

Speaker C:

Here we go. Pro.

Speaker A:

Oh,

Speaker C:

I was wrong.

Speaker B:

He's talking about spiked. Just drop him him.

Speaker C:

I think you're behind.

Speaker B:

He said you to the crowd and he said you. Spike, can we get a time check here?

Speaker C:

Yeah,

Speaker B:

I have on the time stamp. I got 11, 40, 10 seconds behind.

Speaker C:

What The.

Speaker B:

I'm like, what the. Well, I saw a drop.

Speaker C:

11, 56, 57, 58. Is that where you are, JV?

Speaker B:

Yeah, I'm right on. You know. Yeah, typical. I didn't do anything. All right, what are you guys at? Hey, you didn't hit play when we did. I told you. Hit play. Yeah, you waited. You forget to hit play. How did we wait if we're ahead of you? All right, what do you guys want? What do you want Play again? You to catch up. Yeah, no, I'm gonna skip ahead and then pause.

Speaker C:

Yeah, all right, Skip ahead to like 1245, something like that. Tell us where you're at, though.

Speaker B:

No, hold on. I'm enjoying the match that I'm watching. Hold on. Yeah, B, doing a good job.

Speaker A:

Goes right out after him.

Speaker B:

All right, him up. Bam, Bam.

Speaker C:

Right into the post.

Speaker B:

You're one of the most underrated superstars. Oh, Bam.

Speaker C:

Yeah. All right.

Speaker B:

Something great, that one. I pause. It doesn't show me where I pause that. Yeah, I paused. Instead of 13 minute mark, I have Spike Dudley crying on ringside.

Speaker C:

What? Do you know what number you're at?

Speaker B:

I am at 1339.

Speaker C:

Okay, we're at 1350.

Speaker B:

All right, I'll pause at 1340. I love jv's wu tang guy. Rza. Rza. Yeah, my favorite. How do I know my. My best friend's fake black guy's voice? There's no disrespect. No, I. I still listen to the Wuang Clan. At least the Wuang Clan more than I did in when I was a team. Oh, you got. Yeah, listen to Jizzes album again. Liquid Sauce. It's one of my favorites. It's great at the gym. The Shaolin monk in the background. Yep. Get him, Bam Bam. He missed his moonsault, though. Hey, we at 1344. Anybody paying attention?

Speaker C:

Oh, dude, we're way past that.

Speaker B:

Come on, get further behind. Well, you guys aren't listening. I was waiting for you. The.

Speaker C:

Yeah, we're at 15, 11, 15 12.

Speaker B:

Waiting for us. If you're in another century. Well, you asked me to, bro. We're in 15, 20, 21, 22. All right, so I'll catch up, but in the meantime, just on commentary,

Speaker C:

Spike's going for the acid draw. Well, bub Bulldog, I should say. And Bam Bam just dropped him on his head. Bam Bam's looking around. He's like. All right, I think it's time. Time to throw the piece of trash out. One handed choke slam. Jesus. Oh, he is just manhandling him so I do.

Speaker B:

With a gallon of milk. He's doing it with a human. All right, what's up? Timestamp? I thought we just about to see the most epic power bomb.

Speaker A:

Whoa. Whoa. Oh.

Speaker C:

Spike just won. We are at 16. 22, 23, 24.

Speaker A:

That was badass.

Speaker C:

That was sick. That was awesome.

Speaker B:

16. What?

Speaker C:

16, 40.

Speaker B:

Spike, Dudley's with me.

Speaker C:

16, 57, 58, 59, 17.

Speaker B:

Wow, that was that crisp.

Speaker C:

That was nice. But like you said, I thought when he got him up there, I thought, like jv, you said, I thought we were about to see the most epic power bomb ever.

Speaker B:

Should have crushed him with that. Wow. Thought we're going to see an epic power. We saw one of the best reversals I've seen.

Speaker C:

Yeah, that was a. That was a nice victory roll.

Speaker B:

Great.

Speaker A:

Sabu bar wire match was too extreme even for ecw and we would be hard pressed not to agree. Here's your chance to judge for yourself.

Speaker B:

All right, All right, so we get a bunch of here. So.

Speaker C:

Yeah,

Speaker B:

Just want to make sure I'm on terms with you guys.

Speaker C:

18, 15, 16, 17, 18, 21. Okay. Right now. Good.

Speaker B:

Close enough. We're good.

Speaker C:

Yeah, Good. Good enough.

Speaker B:

All right, all right, All right. How much to talk about here?

Speaker C:

Yeah. No.

Speaker A:

Ravishing Rick, who really paid him off. Inside the steel Ravish simply.

Speaker B:

Yeah. Why is Heyman been off TV for so long? A sneaky voice pops up, but we don't see his ass.

Speaker C:

Right.

Speaker B:

He's supposed to be important this time. Yeah. What's going on here? What the. What the. It's Thursday nights. What is this? What is this show? August 21st. Yeah, I can't even read that graphic.

Speaker C:

It's so that the Elks Lodge in Queens.

Speaker B:

I don't know where it is, but the show name is up

Speaker C:

back to the Downington Farmers Market.

Speaker B:

Not the down one, but the one proves this is the shittiest song I've seen come.

Speaker C:

Non sanctioned Old School Chris Candida versus Al Snow. That should be a good match.

Speaker B:

Should be.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

All right. So do I need to read some results? All right.

Speaker C:

Yeah, go for it.

Speaker B:

All right. No, it's gonna suck, so shut up and let me read this. All right. ECW at Warwick, Pennsylvania at the Twin Ranks, which sounds crazy. Anyway, it's August 8, 1997. John Cronus defeats FBI, defeats Axel, and Chris Chetty, always taking a job. Bobby Duncan Jr. Nova. All right, we're gonna stop here because we got Billy in the house. Let's take a listen. This guy is annoying, but we got to hear Him.

Speaker C:

Se's getting his arms stitched up.

Speaker A:

It's the bomb.

Speaker B:

Look at us.

Speaker A:

Sao, help me put this on. What are you being such a baby for? I got one, too.

Speaker B:

Yeah, See, Sabo sucks. He's a.

Speaker C:

Do you not. You notice that Fonzie has. Has a little bit of a six pack? Like he's one of them skinny, skinny dudes that's. He's got so little body fat that he has a six pack. You know when you. When you. When you're a kid, when you're like seven and you got a six pack just because you don't have body fat.

Speaker B:

Oh, yeah. My kid's gonna be in shape because they got a little six pack. Yeah. I don't think it lasted that long, though.

Speaker C:

Oh, right. Yeah.

Speaker A:

For winning the world heavyweight title from Terry in the franchise's hometown of Pittsburgh,

Speaker B:

we need to get Fonzie on like a watch along with us. Imagine that.

Speaker C:

That would be awesome.

Speaker B:

I think. I think we could do that.

Speaker A:

The most controversial and most hated wrestler in the history of Extreme Championship wrestling may be on his way to becoming the next world Heavyweight champion. Here it is. Hometown of Pittsburgh

Speaker C:

now. This doesn't make any sense. They're showing this match.

Speaker B:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

This after they've already said that Terry Funk doesn't have the title no more. So you know that Terry Funk's not going to lose.

Speaker B:

Yeah,

Speaker C:

Like, I'm sure this match was really good, but you already know the outcome.

Speaker B:

This must be from Monaco.

Speaker C:

Yes. The Golden Dome.

Speaker B:

Davey, what are you eating over there? Rice Krispies. What's going.

Speaker A:

On?

Speaker B:

Late sugar. World's lightest leg drops on the top rope. Yeah, What? I said the world's lightest leg drop. Oh, yeah. Always.

Speaker C:

Bet you they were bouncing really good when she was just pounding the mat.

Speaker B:

Rick, you just blew up my mind with those words, pounding the mat. Thank you.

Speaker C:

You're welcome.

Speaker B:

You're welcome.

Speaker C:

I'm not even sure Saturn's still in the. In this. In the company at this point.

Speaker B:

I was say, so far removed from that reference that people probably don't know what we're talking about. You're welcome.

Speaker A:

Three men in the same ring vying for the same title. You will see two eliminations. One man will be left standing. He will be. Hey, St. V in the house.

Speaker B:

What up? Look at that guy. Imagine that was your job to do that. You're nailed it. Probably pissed. I'll over here. I'm Jamie Styles.

Speaker A:

Demanded a rematch with Spike Dudley.

Speaker B:

Bam Bam Bigelow.

Speaker A:

Back, baby. Official videotape release of ecw.

Speaker C:

Barely Legal. The videotape.

Speaker B:

Saying. Right. You want to go over any details here. The notes. Let's see.

Speaker C:

Let's see what's on the notes.

Speaker A:

Seconds to Shane Douglas and Francine are in for a rude awakening.

Speaker C:

Well, the. The show at the Golden Dome had 2200 fans, which is a record for ECW's attendance.

Speaker B:

Yeah, right.

Speaker C:

Yeah. For a house show. Yep. Apparently they had previously come close to 2000, but this was the first time they went over.

Speaker B:

It was crazy. Like the competition was in Scranton, Pennsylvania.

Speaker C:

Right? Scranton, Pennsylvania, right. Yeah. Oh God, it's icp.

Speaker B:

Oh man, that's terrible. I hate. I hate chuckalos. What the is this song? Is this ip ice? Yeah,

Speaker C:

I only know chicken hunting from them. And even then I don't know all the words to it. I just know the who's. Oh yeah, great. Malinka.

Speaker B:

Oh, yeah, that's the one.

Speaker A:

I know you join us on Pay Per View this Sunday night. Hardcore heaven 97. You know I speak on behalf of myself

Speaker B:

it Rick if you don't have anything else. Okay.

Speaker C:

Oh, well, they can. They confirmed the Paul Heyman confirmed that the next Pay Per view will be in November to remember and they're going to hold that in Monaka at the Golden Dome.

Speaker B:

Really? They're going back there?

Speaker C:

Yeah. Well, I mean they. They had such a great attendance record there. I guess they figured that must be a. You know, a hot spot, so to speak.

Speaker B:

Yeah. Or a safe spot. All right. Cassidy.

Speaker A:

What?

Speaker C:

Chastity.

Speaker A:

Here we go. Cat fight

Speaker B:

all

Speaker A:

it be great.

Speaker B:

What is he saying? I think he was on commentary anymore.

Speaker C:

This is from.

Speaker B:

Oh, see? Old school. Yeah, that's right. Chastity. Hey, what am I. Davey knows this. My first crushes ever was yesterday. That's right. Yeah.

Speaker C:

I mean not. Not a bad choice.

Speaker B:

No, not this Chassity. No, it wasn't this chick, but it was a real girl in school.

Speaker C:

Oh. Oh, okay.

Speaker B:

Her name was Chassis.

Speaker C:

Really? Yeah. Oh, I've never met a girl in real life named Chastity. I mean I. I know that they exist. Just.

Speaker B:

Yeah, she's a cutie.

Speaker C:

Shout out to Chastity, whoever you are.

Speaker B:

It's so funny though. The thing like. Like the girls you had crushes on.

Speaker C:

Oh yeah, like y. I had a crush on quite a few girls, so.

Speaker B:

Ah, of course. Yeah.

Speaker C:

Yeah. It was a Courtney, a Kathleen, a Liz.

Speaker A:

Tommy Dreamer refuses to lose. There's four men down in the middle of the ring.

Speaker B:

I appreciate this look back at Wrestle Palo 97 to see Raven and Tommy Jeremy Going at it because. Well, I can see Raven for a while.

Speaker A:

Nope.

Speaker C:

Yeah, he's on Monday Nitro right now.

Speaker B:

Yeah, and it's not good.

Speaker C:

No.

Speaker B:

And I'm surprised we. You know, if someone's bitching about Sabu, where's the person bitching about us bitching about Raven? Yeah, because we should on him too.

Speaker C:

Oh, we should on him a lot. Especially. Especially since Raven just kind of half assed a lot of the last year of him being an ecw. Yeah. And he, you know, he was a. Yeah, he's a.

Speaker B:

His promo sucked. I totally. Straight up right now. The best promos come from Taz, Steve Austin. That's it. Like, those are the best promos.

Speaker C:

The Candido had some good promos.

Speaker B:

Yeah, like.

Speaker C:

But all in all. Yes.

Speaker B:

They're not meaningful.

Speaker C:

No, no, no, no. They're funny.

Speaker B:

He's good. Well, I guess the Austin's problems aren't meaningful either. But Taz's are. He gives the best promos of anybody that's trying to get himself over.

Speaker C:

Douglas too.

Speaker B:

Oh yeah, well, he's my boy. Yeah, I'm not even considering talking about, oh, he's the best. Because I know he's the best.

Speaker C:

Right.

Speaker B:

I'm a love. I'm a love fan of us. That sounds whatever. But yeah, I love. And rvd. But he sucks at promos too, in my opinion. For the most part. Double ddt.

Speaker C:

Then the lights go out again.

Speaker B:

All right. What the going on here? Turn the lights on. I don't like this. Come on now, here we go. Oh, Billy, I want Bill Alfonso to get up. Is the volume very low for you?

Speaker C:

No, his mic was up at that point, if that's what you're talking about.

Speaker B:

Yeah, what the CW morons.

Speaker A:

Remember when the king said that I am ecw and that stands for you

Speaker B:

guys seen this wrestlers.

Speaker A:

Well, once again I'm gonna expose Tommy Dreamer. I'm gonna expose him for the bare faced liar that he is. He's saying that he challenged me. Oh, contraire, Tommy. Challenge the King. After what I did to you? After I came into your life, little bingo hall. That's right. Single handedly left you and all of your cronies laying flat on their backs. You don't challenge me. And after I came back again to your bingo hall and exposed you for the girl that you are, you Balless wonder. You don't challenge me. I challenge you, Tommy Dreamer. I challenge you.

Speaker B:

The. With this gimmick.

Speaker A:

That's what you want to call it? Well, I'll tell you something, pal. That may be a more appropriate weird

Speaker C:

video effects of overlaying Lawler on the old footage. It's kind of weird.

Speaker A:

None of your other friends around, just

Speaker B:

you and me talk about after this.

Speaker A:

You may be going, you know what I'm talking about, Tommy Dreamer. Because I'm not gonna be satisfied with just leaving you laying flat on your back. I'm not going to be satisfied with showing the world what a girl you are. I'm going to end this once and for all in Fort Lauderdale. I'm going to end it. There'll be no doubt in anybody's mind who is the king and who is the crap.

Speaker B:

Well, Rick, give us a quick recap on what had. What just happened?

Speaker C:

Well, during the beatdown at Russell Paloozo where Lawler. No, not Lars Paloozo. The orgy of violence. Lawler hits Tommy Dreamer in the testicles with Sandman's cane and one of them swells up and he has to go to the hospital and have it drained of fluid. So Jerry Lawler calls him a ball less one wonder and says that now he can't Beulah. And I believe at one point also says I'll. I'll be happy to take your place kind of a thing. But. All right, well, standard stuff. But essentially he hits Tommy Dreamer in the balls with a cane and ruptured his testicle.

Speaker B:

Right. But I. I was more hindy too. Like the whole process of. What was the segment? It was.

Speaker C:

That whole segment was just Lawler talking.

Speaker B:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker C:

It was Law talking about how crappy wrestling, you know, extremely crappy wrestling. And I'm. You don't challenge the king after, you know, after I ran all of your. Your cronies out of town and blah, blah, blah and this, that and the other thing.

Speaker A:

Somebody's got to get.

Speaker B:

Now we got this nonsense here. People throwing in the crowd, in from the crowd. Yeah, you don't see that often in ecw. No respect. Throw them all out. Get him out of here.

Speaker A:

Get him out.

Speaker B:

Yeah, now we got black lights. What the going on here?

Speaker C:

Yeah,

Speaker B:

Go Fonzie.

Speaker C:

There's cornet cell phones.

Speaker B:

Yep. Just put their lights on. Yeah, he doesn't even work here. Oh, I love that line. Someone paid him. He doesn't work here. Yeah, now he does. Ain't showing up if he's not getting paid.

Speaker A:

Lawler and Cornette raising their arms in an ECW ring. I'm gonna puke.

Speaker B:

Now just on the side, like regards the storyline. This is not gonna factor in much but the fact that Jim Cornett is here.

Speaker A:

It's pretty.

Speaker C:

Yeah, no, I agree. Cornet showing up in ECW is definitely unique because it was, it wasn't expected.

Speaker B:

Right. It was very temporary. It'll happen a couple times. But that's because he did work for wwe.

Speaker C:

Right. And there was, there was plans for it to be more. Him to be more involved, but it just didn't work out for one reason or another.

Speaker B:

Right.

Speaker C:

Some scroll. I've been scrolling through the notes just to see if there's anything else.

Speaker B:

Oh, yeah, go ahead.

Speaker C:

And they, they did note that the, the title change was a last minute decision to shake up the. The pay per view. But also one thing that I did, I didn't mention, I do remember this, but it just mentioned in the notes as well, is that the stitches that you saw Sabu getting, he had ripped his arm open, obviously, and he just taped it up in the middle, in the middle of selling. He had Fonzie give him a roll of athletic tape and he just wrapped it in tape till he could go get. Till, you know, until he could go get it stitched up at the end of the match. Yeah, that's, you know, Sabu's kind of thing now is he's if when he gets injured, he's gonna tape it up or super glue it closed or whatever rather than go to the hospital.

Speaker A:

Know, I'm not mad, Chris. You know, good job, good job, good job. You know, I'm not mad.

Speaker B:

All right. Want to listen to this, Taz? All right, let's take a listen.

Speaker A:

Did I get mad? It was business. It was business. Good job. Not once did I get mad at Sabu. But you see now, Chris, you know, you want to make be mad. Okay, so maybe I have to get mad, Chris. Maybe I have to get mad. Maybe you have to make me mad, Candido, you want to make me mad? Well, let's get mad, Chris. Let's get mad.

Speaker B:

Want to get on?

Speaker A:

Let's get. You want some Candido? Come on.

Speaker B:

He's only a Batman thing.

Speaker A:

Come on. You know, for t, the first pay per view, Barely legal, that was business. He didn't get mad. He chased Sabu down. He wanted to show everyone else in this business was too stupid to hire him, that he could main event, pay per view, he could win, he could get the job done. That's all he's done got the world television. This person, this Candido is in for a beating and he asked for it. And again, Candido's smarter than that. He's been around the horn as well. You know, it doesn't take a beating to win a match. It's three seconds. One, two, three. And you're a champion. Maybe he wants to get Tasman. Maybe figures will throw Taz off his game plan. Candido has been on a roll. He unveiled a double underhook superplex on the rookie, Chris Chetty. Kitty made one mistake. The cash makes just one mistake. Candido upset pass for the title. Candido. This Sunday night, a violent act will be committed by a violent man. And that violent man is me, Chris. You see, I don't need barbed wire to be violent. I don't need a chair to be violent. I don't need to break tables to be violent. I don't need a weapon, Candido. My hands are my weapon. And the kata Hajime will be hooked on your neck. Oxygen deprivation, Chris. That is your fate. This Sunday night, Candido, I am going to choke you out because I'm Taz and I'm the ECW World television champion. Beat me if you can survive, Candido.

Speaker B:

If I let you.

Speaker A:

If I let you.

Speaker B:

That's badass,

Speaker A:

Right? Now they know Mustafa won't make it

Speaker B:

out of the hospital.

Speaker A:

They're going to get.

Speaker B:

Is it the first time he said that?

Speaker C:

If it's not the first, it's one

Speaker B:

of the first, right?

Speaker A:

Care comfortable. You are subject to surprises. Ion locks up with Axel Rotten.

Speaker B:

Now. We got this tack a match at the end. Know what's funny? They teamed up all the goof. All the fake C and Shacks al together.

Speaker C:

Yeah, they did.

Speaker B:

Right. Yeah. What we got? Well, the Dudleys. And then in in themselves, they are fake death shacks. Then we get the other team. This guy falling out of his pants, wearing pants like a teenage girl in 2020. Oh, yeah. I'm gonna wear jeans that I just cut the up. Yeah, it's balls. Mahoney, Axel Ryan, Jack, Maya.

Speaker C:

Yeah, they got hackmeyers wearing his pajamas.

Speaker B:

Yeah, Hack my. Yeah, always wearing his pajamas. Them, him, him. I agree. Them. Agree with Joey. He just said train wreck.

Speaker A:

Is still standing.

Speaker B:

Dick is still standing. All right. Rick. Rick, you going to say something?

Speaker C:

Was I?

Speaker B:

Yeah, I think so. Was the dick still standing?

Speaker C:

I. I don't know. We gotta wait for Bu to come back and then.

Speaker B:

Oh, hi.

Speaker C:

Hey, New Jersey Jam right there.

Speaker A:

Beautifully done.

Speaker B:

Ten balls.

Speaker A:

All right.

Speaker B:

Two. Count the out of here. Oh, he's got a great melanco shirt on. Right? Is that.

Speaker C:

Yeah, that is a great. Yeah, no, that's a great malinko.

Speaker B:

Yeah, Mysterio. Or it's one of the

Speaker C:

one of the ICP Joker cards.

Speaker B:

Yes. Yeah.

Speaker A:

Oh, my God.

Speaker B:

Oh, my God.

Speaker C:

That was vicious. That was a shitty leg drop, but

Speaker B:

what a chair shot.

Speaker C:

Oh, yeah.

Speaker B:

Hack My is wearing what my daughters would think are nice pajamas.

Speaker A:

Eliminators were the best. 97. New Jack and Mustafa became the ECW World Tag Team Champions again. But immediately after the the pin.

Speaker B:

Yeah, you got to hold that guy responsible. He's just nuts.

Speaker A:

New Jack made it out of the hospital, made it to Buffalo, New York and did a number. But the Dudley put up the New Jack in the locker room, and the Eliminators just happen to stumble upon this fight two seconds later. So here's how it stands. If Mustafa can't make it out of the hospital with New Jacks this Sunday night, the D Dudleys will be awarded the ECW World Tag Team title belts. But they will have to defend them against PG13.

Speaker B:

Oh, big deal.

Speaker C:

Oh, PG13.

Speaker B:

PG13. Bum rush. Your mother.

Speaker C:

Yeah, the hubcap.

Speaker B:

Did he say it? PG13 is like the OG Enzo, Mari. And you can't teach that.

Speaker C:

Absolutely.

Speaker B:

That that's what he was. Which is great. I love that. But it doesn't work if you can't wrestle. It doesn't work if you get tossed into the rope and bang your head.

Speaker C:

Although, to be fair, I think. I think Wolfie D is not bad. He's just saddled with JC Ice.

Speaker B:

Yeah, Yeah, I agree. It's hot dog, right? Define how good they are as a tag team. But yeah,

Speaker C:

I mean, they're like 19 time USWA tag team champions. But then again, JC Ice's dad was kind of running the show at certain times. So. Dance to top the ECW Arena.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

There's our baby.

Speaker C:

Actually, I bet you if she gave you a Bronco Buster, she's very petite, so she definitely wouldn't crush your sternum.

Speaker B:

Oh, she's a little bity.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Jimmy knows. Jimmy, you wait. Yeah, I'm here. LBT can't be too hot. A little bit. All right, let's get the out of here with this crap. We only got four minutes left on this. We got commercials going. Hardcore Heavens coming up of the hardcore

Speaker A:

heaven 97 official pay per view poster now.

Speaker B:

All right, so with Hardcore Heaven, we're in the talks of how we're gonna do that. We might do that as one big super show, so we'll see. But that's what's coming up next. Either way, you're Getting hardcore heaven 97 back in some point. All right, what is a gang bang in the like Zab getting cornered there. Oh,

Speaker A:

Wait a minute.

Speaker B:

We get the stupid heel turn. Did he hear Alfonso?

Speaker C:

Yeah, baby. Yeah. Yeah, daddy. Yeah.

Speaker B:

Her crew is like you, Bill. Center cage. He's not her.

Speaker A:

Nope. What the hell?

Speaker B:

That does me no good.

Speaker A:

It was in that cage match that the Sandman sustained the injuries that will keep him out of this.

Speaker B:

All right, so Joey is hyping up the pay per view, which is hardcore heaven.

Speaker C:

Sandman had some legit injuries.

Speaker B:

Ah, we're getting built up, man. How? Slow up.

Speaker A:

Bam Bam. Looking for revenge against Spike

Speaker B:

of the wwf.

Speaker A:

Jerry the King has to go one on one with the innovator of violence, Tommy Dreamer.

Speaker B:

Oh, no, no. I feel like Michael Scott being pissed at Toby Pain. I don't want to hear him why I continue on.

Speaker A:

This is my home and I fight for what I believe in.

Speaker B:

Shut up.

Speaker A:

And you're an outsider.

Speaker B:

Jerry Lawler, outsider. He's originating.

Speaker A:

You bleed. I'm gonna make you feel all my pain. Live on pay per View. I'm gonna take you out.

Speaker B:

This will show up. But I am happy to see that match. How many streamers? Okay, fine. Yeah, that's gonna be awesome. The two. Two guys that just get it.

Speaker C:

You know what I mean?

Speaker B:

Right?

Speaker C:

They know how to work Bam Bam's revenge against Spike.

Speaker B:

Well, yeah, throw them across the ring.

Speaker C:

Yeah, throw. Throw him out of the ring into the crowd.

Speaker B:

Boys versus PG 13.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

I thought this was a good pay per view. Insane Club Posse.

Speaker C:

Well, what's funny, right, is I in my head was remembering that, like, this is a not. It's a bad follow up. I'm not saying it's a bad pay per view. It's a bad follow up to Barely Legal. And then as we were going through this, I was going, maybe I was wrong. Maybe I'm misremembering. And it wasn't that bad. And now that we're seeing this, I'm going. I think I'm right and I feel bad about it.

Speaker B:

Yeah, I was hyped up, like, oh, I thought this was good. I guess we need to watch it.

Speaker C:

Yeah.

Speaker B:

Like the build up is all right. That's cool. Everything's building up pretty well.

Speaker A:

Yeah.

Speaker C:

But then seeing the. The lineup, it's like, okay, PG 13.

Speaker B:

Are they now just getting into the mode where they're just gonna put matches in for the sake?

Speaker C:

Just throwing matches together.

Speaker B:

We got a pay per view. Who the wants PG 13 on pay per view?

Speaker C:

The out of here Buildundy. That's about it. Well, build Dundee once PG13 on pay per view is what I was meaning.

Speaker B:

I'm just thinking like, yeah, I appreciate building deep because he's fun.

Speaker C:

Oh, I like building.

Speaker B:

Nobody at that time is thinking, oh, yeah, that's worth it. Oh, all right. So that concludes it, right?

Speaker C:

That does.

Speaker B:

That's it. Wrap things up. All right.

Speaker C:

That's all she wrote.

Speaker B:

Hey, that leads. So what we're kind of on, I guess so. Why would you want to listen to the next episode? I still got it running and I see some nice shots. I'll just not spoil it. What? What do you got? No, I can't tell you. Okay. Laundry? No, thanks. All right, so anyway, thank you guys joining us here and thanks for listening.

Speaker C:

And

Speaker B:

I'm just trying to scroll up to where I'm supposed to talk about what I'm talking about. So that's what I'm doing here. Well, I was surprised like all the that came up. It's like, what the. I don't know. This was coming up and it was all kind of crap. Weird.

Speaker C:

Yes.

Speaker B:

Yeah, No, I, I guess just building to hardcore heaven is a lot of. It was born to be wild. I thought Bontree Wild was a better show than anticipated, but. Yeah, much of that, right. Maybe it was just one match, but yeah, yeah.

Speaker C:

I mean, looking at the results on, you know, the notes and everything, I, it, I, I thought that it was a better show, but I don't know, some of, some of these, these results, I'm going, no, that probably wasn't that good. That probably wasn't that good. That wasn't that good. You know, I think it was kind of like a one match show.

Speaker B:

If I have to go through things real quickly, be like, all right, the work root was pretty good. It was solid. Boom. And then we got into a bunch of promos with Gardner, Dudley Boys, and Dudley Boys, like they turned like that whole style turned like, Bubba Ray is Bubba Ray Dudley. Ray Dudley is no longer Bubba now. He's an guy like he is in real life. So that's fine. That's pretty cool. He's jerk off now. Yeah, he's like, all right, I'm making a lot of money for this company. I want to just be myself. So, yeah, fine. And then Joe Gardner pops up. He sucks. That sucked. That promo sucked.

Speaker C:

Oh, yeah, that, that promo wasn't good.

Speaker B:

And then we get the Chris Candido dress up a Taz. I like that. I like that match because, you know, it's a real wrestling match with Spike Dudley. But then we got the Taz and the Terry Funk promos. Those are awesome. Great. Then we get into the final episode there. We move on to more of the Monaco once we wired. But you know that's the kind of all over the place with the Dudley Boys and the Axel Rotten. It was just highlights. It was just a clip show.

Speaker C:

Essentially the go home show,

Speaker B:

Hardcore Heaven.

Speaker C:

Right. Except it was 90, just hype and clip clips like you said. Yeah.

Speaker B:

So the first episode that we covered was great. Second one was like you gotta kind of watch along and like pay attention to it. Otherwise it's just meh, come and go. All right, with that said, do a little wrap up here coming up. We'll be right back. All right, we're back now for the Extreme. Used to be live rest, live wrap up. And we are gonna just wrap up things for next few weeks. And on this episode we've covered ECW hardcore TV through August of 1997. And we're gonna move on to hardcore heaven 1997. A big one. And I think we're gonna do this as a one during the episode. Covering the whole episode coming the whole show. I don't think we've ever done that. We haven't done it and we'll give it a shot. It's Hardcore Heaven 1997 from August 17, 1997. And then after that we're gonna move right on until August 19th and 26th of 1997. Also check out JB and I on the bottom line. Wrestlecast, the career of Stone Cold Steve Austin. Been covering the career of so called Steve Austin throughout his entire career. But we are now doing the career of stunning Steve Austin which is in 1994 at this point. And we have just covered February of 19, 1994. So please check that out. Also we have just done our seventh annual again seventh annual, very special. Seven years of doing this 316 day special. And we did a little special with our friend Rick Booby. We are covering Shotgun Saturday night from January 18, 1997. That is when Stone Cold Steve Austin and Terry Funk just collide with each other on Shock on Saturday Night in 1997. The day before Royal Rumble 1997, which is the first Royal Rumble that so called Steve Austin wins. So great one there. So thank you guys for listen, always being supportive. One last shout out to all our listeners and followers here. Please give us plugs, give us files on social media, wherever you're listening. I'm Mike Pruitt at NPRU 83. Follow JV at John Van Damage and follow Rick Baby at Leo Y85. And follows that Extreme cast Follows that bottom line cast. Thank you guys for listening as always.

Speaker A:

Living in a shotgun shack. And you may find yourself in another part of the world. And you may find yourself behind the wheel of a large automobile. And you may find yourself in a beautiful house with a beautiful wife. And you may ask yourself, well, how did I get here? Let the water hold me down. Into the blue oven after the money's gone Once in a lifetime and you may ask yourself how do I work this? And you may ask yourself where is that large automobile? And you may tell yourself this is is not my beautiful house. And you may tell yourself this is not my beautiful wife. Letting the days go.

Speaker B:

By Water flowing

Speaker A:

after the morning

Speaker B:

Water flowing under Same as it ever was Same as it ever was Same as

Speaker A:

it ever was Same as it ever was Same as it ever was Same as it ever was Same as it ever was Same as it ever was. Gone once in a lifetime Water flowing underground. You may ask yourself what is that beautiful house? You may ask yourself where does that highway go to? And you may ask yourself am I right? Am I wrong? And you may say to yourself my God, what have I done? Let the days go like water flowing under into the blue again into the silent water under the rocks and stones There is water under Letting a days

Speaker B:

go by Let the water for me Letting the day go far Water flowing

Speaker A:

under rock into the blue again after the money's gone Once in while a lifetime Same as it ever was Same as it ever was Same as it ever was look what my hand was Time isn't holding up Time isn't asterisk

Speaker B:

Same as it ever was Same as it ever was.

Speaker A:

One.

Extreme ECW Live Cast - HCTV 224 & 225: August 5 & 12, 1997

Original Release Date: April 2, 2025

This week Mike P, JV, & Rick will be covering the August 5 & 12, 1997 episodes of ECW Hardcore TV. We will watch and discuss the following matches: 

  • Rob Van Dam vs. Mikey Whipwreck (Monaca, PA - 08/02/97)
  • In Ring Promo & Brawl - Shane Douglas (Bill Alfonso, Sabu, And Rob Van Dam Interrupt) (Monaca, PA - 08/02/97)
  • Chris Candido (Dressed as Taz) vs. Spike Dudley (Monaca, PA - 08/02/97
  • Highlights - Terry Funk vs. Sabu (Born to be Wired - 08/09/97)
  • Bam Bam Bigelow vs. Spike Dudley (Born to be Wired - 08/09/97)
  • Highlights - ECW Championship Match - Terry Funk vs. Shane Douglas (Monaca, PA - 08/02/97)
  • The Dudley Boyz vs. Axl Rotten, Balls Mahoney, & Hack Meyers Born to be Wired - 08/09/97)
  • Promos from Rick Rude, RVD, Joel Gertner & The Dudley Boyz, Taz, Terry Funk, Jerry Lawler, & Tommy Dreamer
  • Next Time: PPV Special #2 - Hardcore Heaven ‘97: August 18, 1997

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