Just being in this miserable piece of. Oh, my.

We're not a wrestling organization anymore.

We're the world's damn biggest puppet show. I don't need a weapon.

My hands are my weapon. Weapons.

Quote to.

I'm pregnant.

The era of the ecw.

I have something to say to you.

Welcome to the extreme ECW live cast. This week is episode ECW hardcore TV, covering episodes 181 and 182 from October 8th and October 15th of 1996. I'm Mike Peru along with JV and Rick B.B. welcome back, guys. How you guys doing?

Doing well, bro. How you doing?

How you doing?

And we just keep getting more like Mafioso over here. He's doing. How you doing? Hey, how you doing?

I could have launched into it. Me doing Scotty Flamengo Boy, Johnny B Bozo.

Yeah, that's great.

Which starts to. Which starts to sound like a Rocco Rock impression if you're not careful.

It is. It is rock. Yeah, that's funny because we're gonna have a parody of Rock A Rock coming back here on this episode. So with that said, hey, thanks guys for joining us again here on the ECW Extreme Live cast.

We.

And Yo, Rick, we're gonna give it. We gotta give it up to you here, boy, because you got something to do. You got a podcast going on. So, hey, enlighten us with what's going on with that podcast couple episodes out. What's coming up?

All right. Well, yeah, as you said, a couple episodes up as of recording Yesterday, which was the 8th of November, is actually the 30th anniversary of the third pancreas event.

The.

Yes, we are Hybrid Wrestlers 3. It was November 8th, 1993. That's the next episode that's coming up. First two episodes I've done have been yes, we are Hybrid Wrestlers 1 and 2, which I. I will say this, as much as I love Pancreas and I highly encourage people to get into it, they're not very creative with the names. Basically every year they have one title and it's just, you know, pancreas x x 1 x 2 x 3,95. I can think of. They have Eyes of Beast and it's Eyes of Beast one through like eight. Because they. They do one event every month. But yeah, so it. It's. It gets kind of monotonous.

Are you gonna cover all those, Rick?

Eventually I'll get to them. Yeah, exactly. Luckily, they next the next year because like I said, they do four events in 1993. When they get to 94, I forget what they do. Excuse me, but they do like four or five. I think it's five events. And then they start the Road to the championship series. So they have two different titles, but at the same time, it's like, it's not like watching, you know, WWE or WCW where they have a different show and it has a different name every month. So. But yeah, so the, like I said, the. The next episode will be episode three of the Hybrid wrestling cast, and it's. It's looking up to be a decent show. And then the fourth one will be in December. And then I have a couple of ideas because I don't know if I want to keep doing Pancrase just straight through because like I said, it gets very monotonous. So I might ju back and kind of live up to the tease that I gave in the first episode where I kind of explain how. How did pancreas come to be and kind of give a little more of a backstory and highlight some of the earlier mixed martial arts shoot wrestling promotions starting in like 84, 85. So we shall see. But I appreciate anybody out there who has listened, you know, love the feedback, and I always, I'm always happy to give my opinions on wrestling in general. Which leads us into our. Our next point that Ben Martin brought up on Twitter a couple weeks ago, and I quote, I have it written right here, he basically brought up the fact that we've been seeing a lot of gaijin from New Japan or foreigners from New Japan come in in 96 in the ECW. And then he brought up the. The four pillars of four pillars of heaven in all Japan, who are Misawa, Kobashi, Kawada and Tower. And he did say you could throw in John Akayama, which I agree. You know, he's kind of up and coming. For those of you who don't know, those guys were like, basically the four main eventers of all Japan through pretty much all the 90s, even into 2000s. And they were like the top guys. And so he had asked if they had come into ecw, who, who do you think could basically have a good match with them? And Ben had pointed out that he thought rvd, Sabu, Taz, Luis Piccoli, Shane Douglas and the Eliminators. I would throw Stevie in only because Stevie is, as we've said before, a pretty underrated wrestler, you know. Yeah, he does a lot of goofy stuff with the. The different gimmicks and as we'll see in the opening segment of the first episode, doing parodies of Wrestlers. But all in all he's a, he's a good wrestler, he's good at selling and I think he could hang with the, with one of the pillars. Other than that, the thing with All Japan and with their style is called Kings Road is that it's a very slow build. I mean it isn't that it's boring, but it's not fast paced action like, like the technical wrestling that you'd see of Malenko and Guerrero from, you know, 94, 95, where it was all very fast paced. That's not necessarily how an All Japan match goes as, as we saw when RVD and Sabu faced off against Furnace and Lafawn. So if you get one of those matches, the ECW crowd might, might boo a little bit if you have a 45 minute match going on. But I, I do think that you are right, Ben, that all the people that you mentioned could have hung with, with the pillars if any of them had come in in 1996. But like I said, I don't think that it would, I don't know that the style would mesh enough that it would be worth it to, to bring them in. But I do, I do agree that, yeah, it's kind of weird to see the, you know, Doc and Gordy come in and Johnny Smith, especially Johnny Smith.

All right. Oh, great. Rick, baby, always a master of explaining. Good. So, and, and that's what we like here is like we have a great fan base. People like Ben Martin can just send in questions and Ricky, you fucking give it up. Give it your Honest. Exactly. Exact.

Thank you. Right, yeah, send more in. Anybody out there has questions, you want to throw out some, you know, what if, what if this happened? I'm always happy to talk about that stuff.

That's why Rick has been brought in. Rick is our research department head. We've said that from day one. And he's the man. So he just proved it right there.

Thank you.

Always on a spot. Johnny on a spot. Ricky on a spot. All right, so with that said, we gotta get into a episode here now, right? That's what we're doing here, watching some ECW. ECW and it's ECW hardcore TV episode 181 from 10-8-1996. And we're gonna watch this on the. The archive. Easy to be archive. So I posted a link for us and I talked to our boy Richard. Richard's like, hey, all these episodes are on the archive. I'm not gonna send you that anymore.

Awesome.

It's like, ah, damn. Okay. I Wanted them because I wanted from like my own history to save it. I get it. It's like, all right, it's a pain in the ass to upload whatever. I got it. But Richard said I. I'll still get the. The super cards in the special episodes. So good as those. But. But now we're watching on the archives. Yeah. Yeah. He helped us out for a while. Especially like when we were down when there was no episodes available. He helped us out. So he's the man.

He is the man.

Yep. All right, so we're checking out EastW Hawker TV Episode 181 from October 8, 1996. We got a runtime of 5521. It's Ultimate Jeopardy. Which is a big show. I remember the show. I love this at the time. Ooh, big one. And this is gonna be three episodes of Hardcore tv. So I'm looking forward to this. This is good matches and a lot of good happening here. So let's get right into it. I'll give a countdown. Three down to one. Everybody ready?

Yep.

Yes, sir.

All right. Three, two, one.

Oh my God. It's the pe.

Oh, right.

Fan cam.

We haven't heard this in a while. Public Enemy. Stevie.

Speak of the devil. Yeah, he's entertaining. See if the Blue Meanie continues to grow on me here.

I gotta load my volume down because.

Again, I love the fact that meanie. Meanie says 225 because he's so fat.

225? Yeah. Yeah.

I mean he's definitely more than 225, but out of three.

Yeah, I wish. I wish I was 225. Missy's titties are bigger than two hundred and twenty five.

Yeah.

This great though. This is Public Enemies music. And you have these jerk offs out there. And Rick, why are they on Public Enemy? What's going on here?

Well, you got to think Public Enemies in WCW at this point. And I'm not. Excuse me. I'm not sure if they had won the tag titles at this point, but it was kind of apparent that Public Enemy were not. We're not doing too well in WCW because they not suck. But Paul was very good at hiding their weaknesses.

Exactly.

Didn't. Didn't work out too well in WCW because of that.

Right.

Huh. I know that. What was their weakness?

No, Rocco was in his 40s at this point. So he used to be a very good high flying technical wrestler, but he was just all beat up by now.

Yep.

So they basically. I mean they're. They're good at doing Brawls and putting people through tables and hitting each other with weapons. WCW wasn't all about that. Life in 1996.

Doesn't do a good job sounding like him, though. No, it's a good impression.

Oh, dude, this impression is great. Probably get like, Stevie. Stevie is so great.

Stevie is better than Raven.

He is.

He really is. Yeah.

No, and jv, you're so right. Stevie is better than Raven.

He's even hitting him like Rocco would have.

Stevie is so good that he's actually the guy that's gonna lose the title.

Yep.

And that's how, like, Raven's not gonna lose the title. Stevie's gonna lose the title.

Interesting.

And then. And then Stevie's gonna go on to. To break away from Raven because he's better than Raven.

Stevie is better than Raven. Stevie had a better career than Raven. Bottom line, I think. Right. We can discuss that another point.

But yeah, that's. That's a good. That's a good talking point. Because you gotta think, before Stevie started, Raven was already wrestling. But did their careers. You know who had the better career?

I think Stevie had a better career than Raven. I mean, obviously people are gonna say, oh, Raven, because, oh, it's Raven. But if you watch the career progress financially, probably Raven.

Right.

Come on. Oh, yeah. Money, I said.

But Raven. Raven also did a lot of drugs, so that. That eats up your money. I would. I would argue that Stevie's probably in a better financial position at this point.

Maybe not though.

Currently. Wow.

This is pretty good. I say, that was cool.

Yeah.

Outside, Blue Mini is growing on me.

Oh, I was gonna ask you, where's blue meaning at you at this point. Hey, it's almost BWL coming up.

Yeah, that. That's gonna be coming soon.

Yeah.

Oh, the gangsters.

And I want you. I want you to be watching that.

Bwo. They're taking over.

Juniors me to the mind of a maniac.

Just spend zero to 100 real quick.

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

We wouldn't want it any other way though, jv.

Right? That's ECW in a nutshell.

Yep. This escalates very quickly. Yeah.

In a couple of months, New Jack's gonna like almost kill somebody too.

Yep, Legit almost kill somebody.

Yeah. From Massachusetts on tv.

No, at a house show and in. In Revere at the Wonderland dog Park.

You know about it? J.

You know, this doesn't exist anymore.

Eric cools.

Yep. Mass transit.

Dude acting like he was old enough to wrestle and then got up by New Jack.

Dumbass.

Ah, Mustafa. What a move.

What a maneuver.

Oh, no, the eliminators.

Oh, damn. All the talent's coming out now.

One of.

I appreciate that, jv. That was a good one.

Oh, no. To the referee.

Oh.

Oh.

Just died.

Oops. Oh, look at Boomini taking a bump. Bullini.

He got a Mike Tyson shirt on.

Oh, New Jack.

Yeah.

Oh, this is getting up. Boom. There it is.

Just. He just chucks the garbage barrel on top of him. Yeah.

Throw on his. Whatever.

The shoulders on Saturn is always just nutty.

Oh, it's the beginning of the episode.

We didn't already see this.

Oh, it is. We need. We do really need to start, like, recording our opening talks. That's part of.

I like to keep those off the record.

I know.

Yeah.

That's what. That's where the good is, though.

Hey, Dr. Death. Oh, and it's been a few weeks. Like, Raven's kid's still, like, doing weird, right?

Like.

Yeah, yeah. J.Y. styles in the house.

I had those glasses. I had those glasses.

I know he did. JV's got all the cool. He can be the cool old amount. Oh, this? Oh, you gotta keep it separated. Shake. A spare.

Quote. The Raven never more.

All right, so everybody have any thoughts on this?

I want that Raven T shirt image.

Yeah, it's pretty dope. Wonder how much money he made off it.

Oh, yeah. This like the Liz classics. And like a random machine.

Didn't we see this already?

Yeah. Paul burns and hardcore Evan 96 Taz this dude up. Boom.

Then Saturn kicked him as hard as he could in the back of the head.

That's what's up. So, all right, so, ah, Doc and.

Gordy versus the Eliminators. That's a good match. Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off, bro.

No, that's fine. Go ahead.

No, that's. Yeah, it's Laon.

Okay.

All right.

Yeah, yeah. This is high incident.

Yes.

Shut.

This week I'm going to get an exclusive interview with Bruce.

So I already made a song for the. The break song. And it's very fitting because I read it from the observer and Meltzer doesn't know how to spell Weezer. Also with an H, W H E E Z E R. Weezer. Weezer has a new song. It's called Japanese Girls don't know when. Something like that. Like. That's not the song. No song is El Scorcho. God damn, these Japanese girls do it to me every day. Rick, you know song?

I know of it. I don't. I don't know all the words to it, but yes.

Okay, well, anyway, there's a song by Weezer. And I was surprised when I read that. I was like, oh, you spelled Weezer wrong. So that took credibility away for a second. I was like, all right, let me check it out. I love that song. He said, it's Japanese Girls, which I knew that's not the name of the song because I know wizard songs and that's not the name of the song. But I knew the opening lyrics were, goddamn these Japanese girls. I was like, I got it. It's El Scorcho. So I looked up the lyrics. I was Scorcho in this lyrics about Johnny Grunge, like, giving a leg drop to New Jack.

No shit.

Yeah, in the fucking lyrics. That's fucking cool shit. I know that the song's basically about, like, being in Japanese culture. So it's like when he was in Japan writing this song. Tommy in Public Enemy was in Japan at the time. Like, weird. I don't know. Even still, it's cool. And we're going to use it as the break song. El.

It's a good song. Great song.

It's a great song.

Yeah.

Another funny thing, along with these lines of El Scorcho is one time I was just cutting my grass, and one of my former students who lives in the neighborhood walked by and he asked me if I knew about Weezer. And I told him, so. Yeah, I love Weezer. Ex wife say, look, what's the Scorcho? Weird.

These kids don't realize that Weezer was around when we were kids.

Right? No, that was the thing. I was like, you think you know about Wizard? I know Weezer.

Like, you don't know Weezer.

I know.

That would be like. That would be like. If a kid came up to me, he was like, hey, you heard of this Green Day Band? Yeah. Yes, I have. I. I have. I have a couple of their albums.

It was so shocked that I knew that. I, like, told him to listen to El Scorcho. Because if someone's gonna tell me to listen to. I gotta tell him, hey, you gotta listen to Pigleton. You gotta listen to the best album there is by Loserton.

Is that the one that's technically unreleased?

I thought I'm released.

Okay. They have an unreleased album, though, don't they?

I don't want to confirm it on, because I don't know. But Pinkerton is my favorite of their albums.

Which one's Pinkerton then.

Picking? This is that second main album.

What songs are on it, bro?

Yeah, well, that's kind of what I was.

Yeah, yeah, I know that's what you're asking?

Yeah.

There's no real hit album songs from them.

Oh, okay.

Of course you're pissed out you picked out and no one people don't know any songs from but say, you know, somehow else.

Gorgeous.

We just asked you what's on there.

Yeah, I said not anything big, but is it there?

Like music from the Elder album there Proof where it's like it wasn't a big hit when they. When it first came out, but now it's like a fan favorite.

Nothing.

Nothing. Okay.

Nothing. Dude.

This is nuts.

All right, I'll look. There's nothing.

Always appreciate a top from top of the cage to the outside spot.

Well, if. If without giving too many spoilers. You know, I mentioned high incident with Eliminators versus Dog and Gordy.

Yes. This crazy. Yeah.

Let's. Let's just say that Saturn does a. An elbow drop off the scaffold.

Oh, my God, the scaffolding, like.

Yeah. Which is higher than where that cage would be.

And also crazy.

Yep. And I'm pretty sure he his elbow up doing it. Hey, bro.

Jump off the scaffolding for 75 bucks.

Yeah, yeah. He. He does an elbow drop. I believe it's on Terry Gordy off the scaffolding.

Friday night, October 18th, at the Lulu Temple in Plymouth Meeting, Pennsylvania. We'll see you there.

All the way live.

More human than human.

Oh, sounds good. All right. So with Yellow Scorcho. Did you need me to introduce that separately?

What do you mean?

Like, because I know you're like, what the you talking about? Like, do I need to for the break song?

No, no, I know what you're talking about.

All right.

Yeah. Is that. Is that. That song's on Pinkerton?

Yes.

Okay. All right.

It took us a while to get to that answer.

Yeah, well, sorry. Jesus. Sounds badass right now, though.

J.T. smith's the man. Is that Marty Janetti?

Yeah. What the not.

That's Devin Storm, isn't it?

Oh.

Oh, yeah, it is. Yeah. No, I see his face.

The knockoff rocker.

Yeah, the Crocker.

Yeah.

Well, someone's getting jumped. Yeah, it's Mikey. Of course.

It'll look like monkeys.

Get him. J.T. smith in character the whole time this was going on. What are you gonna do, JT Gonna teabag him?

Hey.

Yeah, he's doing it.

We love J.T. swing. Neck breaker. Okay. Yeah.

Oh, nice hip toss. Terrible drop kick. Not a bad hip toss into an arm bar. Is that an armbar?

Arm lockdown.

Marcus Alexander Bagwell.

Yeah, it's his move, bro. Give it back. He doesn't have many.

Jesus. All these arm drags. Yeah. Jeez, dude, is he Ricky the Dragon? Steamboat ripping him off now too.

Yeah. Get a rip. Be original.

Yeah.

I'm drag take down it.

I'm trying to figure out what's on his shirt.

Cl. Mike. Mikey.

On Mikey's Mikey shirt? Yeah.

On Flux.

No, it's a like some marvel now.

I was going to say. Is that Modoc?

Is it Modoc?

That's so random on the back. Yeah, it looks. Looks like it on the back. As soon as you said marvel, I.

Was like, oh, is that Modok Devon song you. Hey, B. You up? Hey, Mulan. Oh, we got. Oh my God, that sucked.

By the way, Politically incorrect and damn proud of it.

Award with referee John.

Pe Looks different today.

Who looks different?

The ref. Pe Moore. Like you got a haircut or something.

Oh, yeah. Hey, right.

Yeah.

With the hat on.

Yeah.

Oh no, that makes sense. Oh, nice.

Falco's pretty awesome.

Yeah.

I was like when you know to Jerry does the front handspring, you know, bounce his legs off. That was like that except he didn't do. He didn't put his hands down. He just flopped on him.

Yeah, I don't think I've seen that before.

I. I can't say that I have.

He's choking him out. Can't choke in wrestling.

Excuse me.

Shut up of your face.

Your face. Your a little stiff.

His legs stuck in the barricade.

Ow. My God.

Oh my God. That was nice. Now he's grabbing the cop to.

He's grabbing the.

No, he's grabbing the cop and he had the guy's bully bat in the cop. I believe the cop. Don't you dare.

I'm just setting you up.

I know what the is this, Mikey.

Sure it sucks. I know. I know you like the whatever it was, but what the.

It isn't an odd shirt. I will give you that.

And that was a weak ass jump over there. That springboard sucked.

Well, that's why I said what the is this?

Match on a bad crew.

What the.

Yeah, who cares about these? Who cares about Damien Storm or Devin Storm? Whoever the he is, this guy should.

Never be on tv.

Get the out of here.

Why did you hire a guy dressed like a rocker in 1996?

He was an indie darling in the.

Darling and Darlings at four with and Devin Storm.

Ace Darling.

Yeah, I saw him too many times for my liking as a kid.

Reckless youth.

Pal wrestler. Evanson.

Thank you, pro.

There you go. Thank you.

Broke up the three.

Ah, no, no. No one's better than this. I was just talking about life. But we can't do that because these shows suck.

Where's my Beavis and Butt head stuff when I need it? Right? Like, this sucks.

Yeah, this is gonna suck. Yeah, this is gonna.

This is gonna suck.

Cool.

Change it.

Change it.

Cool.

Hey, baby, come to.

Ah, classic baby.

Look at those chicks on a score. Oh, can you.

Oh, hey, you have to jump on me the. About that. So we're live. Jack versus eliminated. Cronus has with Bill Alonzo. All right, we're gonna pretend something's good's happening here, so let's. What's going on? The. It's a long time to go.

Good evening, all of you insignificant, hygienically challenged.

Oh, we got a turning. Oh, someone threw at Joey. Oh, boomerang.

Am I ahead of you?

Oh, is that me? I don't know.

What do you got for a time stamp there, Pru?

You got a 27, 30, 31.

Oh, I'm way ahead of you.

You're way behind this.

Yeah. 47, 48, 49, 50.

Yeah.

Are you so far behind all the time? You. 55, 27, 58.

59, 28.

Say it again.

All right.

27, 28. Oh. 8, 28. Oh 9, 10, 11, 12.

All right.

What are you at?

28, 20, 21, 22.

I know, nine. But what's on the screen?

Oh, okay. ECW returns to the flag staff. Jim Thorpe.

Yeah.

Get extreme at the corner of Swanson and Rittner. Okay. Yeah, they're advertising Doc and Gordy versus the Eliminators. Oh, they keep zooming in on his chest hair.

Of course.

Such a sleaze bag.

Oh, just saw Missy Titties Experience sa Return to the ECW Arena November to remember. Are you guys hearing this? No. Having to remember.

Yeah, yeah.

All right.

I mean, when you're looking too much. Come on, say it.

When I'm looking to yell tone deaf. Tone deaf. Who's tone deaf? Me, dude.

The only one singing.

All right, well, Axel is tall enough too, so.

What?

Axel?

You're comparing yourself to Axl Rose?

Axl Rose sucks.

No, it doesn't.

Listen to him.

Yeah. Have you.

Yes.

Hey, Rick, you think Axaro sucks now?

Maybe.

Yes.

Yeah, back in 87. No, that's what I'm saying.

Of course now he sucks. He's, like, 90.

Yeah, that's what. That's my whole point.

Oh, yeah, like 80, 70 didn't suck.

Of course not. This is great right here, but there was a big thing that him just singing the song like last week. It's horrible.

Ah.

Which is fine. I guess everybody sucks eventually.

Yeah, it's like going to watch Michael Jordan Dunkin basketball. Like, ah, he sucks. Yeah, he's 60.

Yeah.

He'S not peak. You're paying just for the nostalgia.

Yeah.

I've seen him. I've seen Guns N Roses live telling people like I saw before he died. I died. Dude, you should the bucket list like 30 years ago.

Oh, Stevie's in the corner like Raven with Lori between his legs. Oh, man, I love Stevie. 14 minute entrance, guys.

Great.

Oh, yeah, with him.

Pack of Camels.

Yeah. Yeah, Camels. They're marking camp. Their marketing campaign worked. I did want to smoke cigarettes because the carol was cool.

Yeah. And I may have told the story, but growing up, my. My dad didn't smoke. Like, neither my parents. My dad smoked before he met, before I was alive. But for some reason I had a. I had a Joe Camel T shirt that I used to wear.

That's awesome.

Yep.

That's sick.

Y. If I. If I remember correctly, your parents didn't.

Smoke and you had that.

Yeah. I don't know how I got it, but if I remember correctly, on the back, it had Joe Camel smoking and there was like a Egyptian pyramid in the background.

Oh, I know the shirt.

Yeah.

That'S hilarious.

My turn. Next.

Turn. Next.

A lot to have her hold my hand.

Oh, my gosh. She's hardcore.

Yeah.

Oh, she's hotcore.

Ah, you said it.

Keep. Keep fiddling with that T shirt, honey.

Yeah.

Oh, I just wonder. Hey, I just don't want to rip that off. You know what I mean?

Take it off.

Already got a big rip in the front.

So that's why.

Finish the job.

Finish it.

Love those boots she has on.

Finish it.

Do it.

I'll give that some Sonia Blaze. Oh, yes.

I know I said 14 minute entrance, but I am not mad. Not mad at all.

We all know you've loved Bula from the beginning.

Yes, I have. I loved her when I was 11 years old.

Man, you've turned me on to be out. Buell wasn't one of my girls and got me into. Got me into some Beulah.

Some Beulah to love.

Contrast with Lori who looks like she's strung out.

Lori strung out?

Yeah.

Oh. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. I'm seconds off. Look at Stevie though. Steve is the man.

Yep. He's sitting there. He's got Raven's belt around his waist. He's got Lori sitting between his legs just like Raven would have Her. He's just King. King should have mountain. What were we talking about.

Getting?

I don't know. I just.

Yeah.

Zoned out there.

I. I did zone out because I'm a little jealous. A little, Little jealous of Jim Fullington right now.

Oh, here we go. As your favorite T shirt. Right.

Yeah. I. I kid you not. I have been looking for that T shirt as much as we should on it. I. I kind of want it.

Yes. We all have to have it.

Yeah.

And no peers. He is the most unique.

But I also don't want to spend 80 bucks on it. You know.

I'll say. When we all hang out at Scotty's Pub, we're all wearing a Sabu T shirt. Yeah. Is Boo.

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A nice titties missing.

Nice tats, lady.

Nice tata.

Bu. Took the T shirt off.

The King of Swing.

Risks losing Raven's belt.

There you go. All right, so it's a big match here. Pedal match. Stevie Richard putting the title on the line. What a idiot.

Risks losing his hair.

And not for nothing, this is the thing that annoys me with Raven. Raven's always just the. The guy that gets away with not losing his title. And then when it comes time to losing the title, it's, oh, Stevie's gonna lose the title for me. That's all right. I don't know. I don't know. Y'all thought Trick, what do you think?

Yeah, No, I mean, I. I totally agree. Like, it's. It's kind of bullshit that Raven, that, like, he kind of worms his way out of title defenses all the time.

He sucks. He never defends it. He defends the title, but always thinks way out of winning the title.

Right?

And then when he loses, it's, oh, it's not because I lost. It's. Stevie lost that for me.

What the.

Oh, no accountability.

Yeah, I'm. I'm, like. Had a loss. Like, what the. He was supposed to be one of the great champions of ecw, and he sucked. I just want to throw it out there. He sucked. Raven sucks.

He's. He's definitely not as good as I remember.

Shane Douglas is the best ECW champion there is. Bottom line, I'll stick with that forever. He's the best. And the fact that he has to become a TV champion, and from there, he becomes the best TV champion ever, too.

I. I don't know about best TV champion.

Oh, you talking about rvd?

Yeah, but, I mean, we. We can cross. That's the debate.

We'll talk about it.

Yeah, yeah. Because it kind of depends on what your definition of best would constitute.

All right, all right. Hey, you already know I love Shane Douglas.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah. It's just whip. Whip across now. What I want more here in this match is more. Oh, perfect. Right there. Bu. Jesus Christ.

Am I a way ahead of you?

I'm at 4,000, 120. 4,000, 131. How. How are you that far behind me still?

41, 30. Where.

Where are you at?

4,000, 150.

Oh, that's where I'm at. Dude, how does this happen every time we record now? You went up on like, a.

Is yours buffering or something pro?

I don't know. I'll just jump up. Hold on. Tell me where you're at.

42. Oh, seven, oh, eight, nine, ten.

That's free.

That becomes a signature Sandman spot.

All right, Just had same man clothesline. Stevie still behind.

You? Might be, yeah.

The outside of the ring still.

Yeah. Yep.

I got Brian Lee closing up a chair about the. Tommy.

I'm. I'm seeing Tommy and Brian Lee heading towards the exit. Stevie just hit Salmon in the head with a chair. Is that what you're seeing, jv?

Seeing what?

Like, okay, right now, Tommy and Brian Lee are brawling like.

Damn. Man's in the ring.

Yep, Salmon's in the ring. He's. He just chopped Stevie's chest. Yeah.

Hard.

43. 35.

Yeah. Yeah. You're like a second behind, but.

Okay. All right.

Way closer now.

Yeah.

Thank you.

Welcome to the party palace, jb. Who's the best wrestler in the ring right now?

Who's the best wrestler in the ring right now? Not Sandman. Why?

Stevie, come on.

Yeah, I know. Well, Minnie was in the ring too many sucks. I thought you were gonna say Sandman because you said you're a big Sandman person, so I just wanted it state it's not Sandman.

Yeah, I was avoiding him.

That was the best in the ring. Jim Moline or John Finnegan.

Oh, who is it?

The bald spot threw me off in trouble.

And that means Bu was smoking earlier. We'll have Prime Lee in here now. We're just weeks away from one of his best buddies coming in. I'm looking forward to it. Oh.

No gimmicks needed.

Oh, so good.

Did I ever show you my mine Chris Candido shirt?

Yes, you did.

Yeah.

Oh, man. Feel free to show it Again.

Oh, yeah. I'll post it again on Twitter when he shows up.

Oh, what an.

Oh.

Hey, if you're gonna head but a girl, you better roll her up and not the dude in the ring. Your problem, man. Who's this? Clint on the ring.

She almost missed her cue.

Who's this April O'Neill over there? Yeah. Look at Tommy's like, I don't give a. Over here.

I'm not the hula.

Hey, it's Wolverine out there. Supernova with no mask on.

Yeah, no mask, no face paint.

Basically I call them Wolverine because the. If you're gonna have a Wolverine movie, make him wear the old costume he.

Is in the next one supposed to be, right? Yeah. Next. Deadpool.

Deadpool. Deadpool 3.

Yeah.

And JV.

Yeah.

You're. You're a comic guy, right?

Yep.

Been slacking lately, but. Yep.

Well, but I mean, what's the. Is why does Wolverine have the two different costumes? Like, why does he have the yellow and blue, but he also has the like tan, yellow, brown, red one?

Well, the brown original.

The brown's the original. But like, I think it's like X Men. It's not the original because when he sure shows up in Hulk181 on the last page of Hulk 180 has a yellow and blue suit.

Okay.

So Summer, in the interim, he gets this brown suit.

Yeah.

He doesn't wear it much in the comics, but it gets pushed more. And like he wears it more during his Frank Miller run, Which in the 80s when Frank Miller was writing Wolverine and then that got pushed more mainstream because video games were coming out and stuff.

Right.

So people saw it more. But his time as an X Men, he's mostly worn the white. The. The yellow and blue.

I got. Yeah.

So like X Men issue 100, he's wearing the yellow and blue like the Frank Mellow Miller Miller. And like Wolverine solo runs. That's where you get like these other Wolverine. So brown suit, you get Wolverine with the patch, stuff like that.

That's great explanation. We have bathroom brawl going on now.

Yeah.

Tommy was trying to bust a beer bottle on the sink so he could shank him with it. He has. Has a random folding chair in the bathroom with him.

Look at these fans.

I was like. I said, look at these guys. Look at this, like 10 year old too.

Kid Wars. Kid Wars Jr. ROTC outfits.

Yeah.

Got piss all over it.

Him up. Him up.

How bad do you think that bathroom smelled?

Oh, man.

Well, smelling chocolate.

Well, given that we know there's no heating or air Conditioning in this place.

Oh, that's right.

Oh, no, thank you.

Oh, no, thanks. Hard pass.

Yep.

Oh, as much as I think I would be like an ECW attendee, a fan, I don't even want to go to the patriots. That.

Mr. What do you call it? Brian Lee just gave Butchie something to do the next morning.

And no, thank you. The. Is this.

Is that a cooler?

Roseanne just slamming the guy.

Got a Misfits T shirt right there.

Yeah, I saw that. Oh, yeah. Great move, Sandman. That sucked. Dick. That was horrible. Can we get some bonus points for that, cuz? That sucks.

Just get going.

There we go.

This what you were talking about? Oh, this ain't the scaffolding.

No, this is. This is why they end up having a scaffold match.

Oh, this is the big match, right?

Oh, that was stiff, dude. Yeah, there was some intent behind that one.

But he hit the wall more than he hit Tommy, though. That's the thing.

Oh, I didn't notice that.

Yeah, over in the.

Look at all that duck work.

Yeah, asbestos and.

Yeah, asbestos is fine as long as you don't disrupt it.

So they say.

This is hardcore.

God, this is great.

This is a famous spot.

Oh, my God.

Oh, man. God bless him.

Yeah.

Oh, God bless us all.

The fact he did all this and is not a millionaire today, that sucks.

You gotta wonder how he can walk today.

Yeah.

Oh, my God. And got head.

I don't know what to say.

Oh, my God.

Supernova wearing his X Men outfit.

Yeah.

Hey, I'm over here. Out of here. This guy went through tables. Who's this cutting in the ring? Lord Falls. All right, sorry, Excuse me.

And now he's ripping her clothes off.

One, two. All right, so we got a showdown here. One, two. No, two. Stevie's got a two count on the same man. And you have the wife. Ddt. That's it.

One, two, three.

New champion.

New champion. Meanwhile, Tommy's dying on the arena floor.

And meanwhile, Raven doesn't lose his title sucks. Can I just admit that finally, that Raven sucks. His gimmick sucks. He sucks. I don't like him. I don't like him at all.

Mr.

Horse, I think JV's on my side with Raven. Raven's talking.

Oh, yeah.

Stevie Richards is the man.

Jacked for that. For the title change, though.

Stevie should have been the champion the whole time.

Yeah, I agree.

Now. Now we're back to Sandman because they knew Raven sucked. Oh, let me talk about that. Talks about. Talks about nothing.

Let me talk about how depressed I am.

Part of me is like, am I thinking, like, retrospectively? Like, do I think it sucks now? Because I'm not into that. I don't think so. I think it sucked in general. Like, they should have just had the same man be the champion the whole time.

But, I mean, it gives them. It gives them a feud to not distract, because obviously you still got the Tommy Raven thing going. But, you know, it. It gives a little. Give us a little break from that so it doesn't get monotonous.

Yeah. I mean, a lot the good stuff, and it's fun.

Yeah.

Well, all his was built around, like, oh, these girls have titties and they're around me.

Yeah.

You know what I mean? Like, come on. Actually, if anything, Shane Douglas should have been around, been champ.

Yeah.

And the fact that when he comes back, he's just TV champion the whole time is annoying to me too. But I get what they're doing.

Yeah.

They want to set up a separate division.

Yeah. And, you know, they're working. They're getting. Not that Shane needs to be built back up again, but they're using him for his. How good he is to kind of fortify the. The mid card, you know?

Yeah.

Right before they elevate them again to. To be in the main event.

Which is smart. I agree with that type of booking.

Yeah.

Yep. All right, so I had this plane, so we're overrunning, right?

Yeah.

Okay. All right, so where should I edit this? Here. All right, jv, I'll just start, like. And we're back. You figure it out. Right? What?

Oh, that's right. We gotta take a break here.

Yeah. So you want me to just say, all right, we're back, and.

Yeah.

Yeah, take a break. We'll come right back. My bad.

You want to break?

I just started watching the next episode.

All right. Yeah, I was talking. I was like, I think we're into the next episode.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I paused my. I paused mine so that it didn't keep going, but.

All right, so we'll take a break. All right.

Yep.

Good. Then we'll start with October 15, 1996.

Sounds good.

Me every time all the redheads said you shred the cello and I'm jello, baby two won't talk, won't look, won't think of me I'm the epitome of Public enemy why you want to go and do me like that? Come down on the street and dance with me I'm a God like you so please I know I'm here, I'm waiting I think I'd be good for you and you'd be good for me. I asked you to go to the Green Day concert. You said, you know, never heard of them. How cool is that? So I went to your room and read your diary. Watching grunge leg drop New Jack through a press table. And then my heart stopped. Listening to Cho Cho San fall in love all over again. I'm a guy like you. Maybe you just don't know what to do. Then maybe you're scared to say I'm falling for you. I wish I could get my head out of the sand. Cause I think we'd make a good team. And you would keep my fingernails clean. But that's just a stupid dream that I won't realize. Cause I can't even look in your room without shaking. And I ain't baking. I'll bring home the turkey and you'll bring home the bacon. I'm alone like you? So please, I know I'm here. I'm waiting, Waiting? I think I return for you and you begun for me.

All right, we're back. Now for the next episode of Easter to be hardcore TV. It's easy to be hardcore TV. Episode 182. And we are covering Easter Be Hard TV from October 15th of 1996. This is the second episode of coverage of the Ultimate Jeopardy episode. And we got some good matches coming up. We got Taz versus Johnny Smith. We got the Eliminates versus the Gangsta Party. And Shane Douglas is back. Shane Douglas versus the Pitbull Number two. And this is a big one. And, man, I'm glad we're here to watch this. I'm glad JV is here to check this out.

Yes, sir.

No big one here. So Ultimate Jeopardy 96. Let's check this out. You guys are ready?

Yep, ready.

All right. We're watching this on the Internet Archive. So please, if you're gonna watch along with us, I'll give you a countdown three down to one. When I say play, we all click play. Three, two, one, play. Oh, my God. Holy.

Right into the.

Right into it, man. God damn. This is an high incident. Is this high incident, Rick, or is this.

No, this is the Prelude incident.

Okay.

Yeah, it's not like a high incident incident.

It seemed like a high incident to me.

Yeah, a.

Yeah, I guess high incident is usually because like. Like, Rob Van Dam was high or something.

Yeah. Or the scaffold match.

Yeah, well, that too, but.

No, I like your answer better.

Oh, nice. Ddt. Now we just watch that. And Stevie is the best. Throw him out there. I don't care. I'll. I'll die on the hill. Man.

He's gotta be. You could argue he's the most well rounded guy in ecw.

He is.

He definitely is.

Steve Rich is the most underrated wrestler in ECW history. Down on the hill. Dude still wrestles. Still a badass. I saw him when I went down to Louisiana to meet with the Book of Territory guys.

Oh, he wrestled it all with all that?

Yep. And he was awesome. He's still in great shape. Awesome.

Guy with a Patriots jacket on.

Where I missed it. Where was it?

Behind the Sandman. So he's, you know, on the opposite side of the right hand side. Yeah, he's. He probably is like right behind the Sandman. But you can't really see it because of the angle. But he's, he's very visible. He's wearing a. Yep, he's right there. You can't really see. Yeah, it's like a dark, the dark blue.

I had that one, the kids version.

Yeah, it has the. The word mark across the chest. Yep.

My time is all up, I guess.

Of course Mike doesn't already play.

I play. Yeah, good one, jv. I like it. Yeah, those make sense because I'm off timing. All right, fine. Oh, all right. So can you tell me what time?

306. 307. 308. 309. I'm at 312.

I'm like dead on with work again.

13, 14.

All right, I'm five seconds then.

Jesus.

What do you mean, Jesus?

Well, first you were like 20 seconds behind, now you're five seconds ahead.

Yeah, that wasn't a different episode.

Okay, right.

Sorry. Hey, look at this guy.

He's in Boston.

Same man, looked like he was like. I'm about be a quarterback for the next show here.

Now, Ms. Fullington, man, I've got to ask you, I don't.

Mean to get personal, but Joe's afraid to talk to Ms. F. Raven.

You're alone again.

Oh, scratching herself like she's Philly Kidman Feening. Yeah.

Ms. Fullington. Lauren, maybe this needs to be made simple.

Raven left, just took off because he sucks. Raven never lost a title.

The Sandman is once again the world heavyweight champion. Raven is gone. I mean it's over.

Every time. Every time. The Sandman and gets closer to achieving his own personal nirvana, I'm going to take it away, away, away from him.

Let's try it another. Now that Raven has taken.

What the. Was that you and your 7 year.

Old son Tyler are On your own again. You're alone. I mean, will Stevie Richards be your new project?

No, I'm afraid to say what I want because you guys. Ah, you at the wrong time.

No, go ahead, say it. Pr. Go ahead.

It sucks. Look at this.

No, it does. This is an awful segment.

That's horrible. Like Gollum.

My precious.

My precious lost.

She doesn't. She doesn't play a convincing junkie slash psychopath.

Joey's not very sympathetic at all.

No.

Memes is. Raven has left his life behind. He's gone away. He's gone over.

This is like a bad horror movie.

Yeah, it's like Shutter Island. Oh, yeah, yeah.

That is whatever. I was trying to think of a movie that's a good one.

He's taking Tyler with him. And I'll take advantage of that if I could. Hey, you. I'll go back to Precious and wcw. I keep it se. How sh. That a serpent. Okay, never mind.

That Raven shirt is cool.

It is badass. Called the Raven. Never more Raven. Like the last fashion.

Meeting. This Friday night. Rage in the cage.

The Sandman will defend kids inside the.

Confines of the steel cage.

Lul Temple. Hey, Rick, that's your favorite place, man. Lulu Temple.

The Lulu. Yeah. I mean, I've never been there, but I like the name.

It is a cool name.

Okay.

It's like the best name. Sounds like the Kowloon in Boston.

August.

Yep. Closing down in a couple years.

Apparently they're closing soon.

Yeah, 20, 25.

Hey, we gotta figure out a time to go out, by the way. Yeah, throw it out there.

I'm like second, third week of December.

Third week of the summer. Yeah, sometime in December.

Yeah, yeah, that works.

I will talk about it.

The Boston media.

Yeah. I don't think the Boston Globe or the Boston Herald was no gives a.

Sand that has left the country. And he's just walked off from the press conference.

He didn't walk off. He. He was walked off. He was walked off. He didn't walk off. He got walked off.

He was escorted off by Todd the.

Sandman hasn't done one interview. He's avoided the media completely and just concentrated on wrestling. And I mean, three time ECW World Heavy Champion should be the greatest moment.

In the career and maybe even it should be. But he sucks.

I mean, Raven's not even here. He's not even in this country.

And Raven sucks too.

Meanwhile, while Raven's other arch is Tommy.

Dreamer.

What was a near tragedy once again at the hands of prime time. Brian Lee being prime time. Slam.

Oh my God. Look at that.

It's even worse seeing it in slow motion.

Yeah, it is.

You see the tables just fall on top of them.

October 26th.

It's even worse than prime time. Brian Lee, the man you suck under.

Faker.

Right.

You saw gas. Who's that in my window?

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You know that ECW1 2 sucks.

Saturn of the eliminators goes one on one with everyone's favorite underdog, Mikey Whitreck. Pitbull number two collides with the bulldozer. Prime time. Brian Lee. Shane Douglas, the most hated man in pro sports along with Francis.

All right, so speaking of Shane Douglas, Rick, I don't know if you know Shane Douglas has a new podcast and he's done that numerous times, but are you aware was new podcast?

Yeah, I was aware that it's like. Yeah. His third or fourth podcast.

Yeah. Have you given the listen.

No.

Rebrand existing broadcast or just stop from scratch each time.

That's. I mean, basically it's just like you get the new host and they ask him the same that's always asked.

Yeah.

Just recycling material.

Yeah. But he's so honest. I. I love it. Like, he's so cool about what his character was as well. Like, he totally admits, like, Jane Douglas is not Troy Martin, who he is.

Right.

And I love that. It's like that was a character that I created and Yeah, I sometimes I grimace and I hate that character from for what I said. That's what I had to do to get over. Who knows if that's totally the truth and what he's saying, but I like it.

I respect it though. Yeah. Like, yeah, you got some wrestlers that don't know the difference.

Right. And he always sticks by. He is a teacher. Like, that's what he wanted to do. He wanted to be a teacher, but he went into wrestling because he loved that as well. There's great stories of him. I'm glad he's back with another podcast. He's pulling some out.

I'll have to give it a listen.

He got over by the Click too.

Yeah.

And that's. That's well documented, I think.

But that sucks though. Just be held back, held on the water, basically.

Yeah.

He said his worst time in wrestling ever was in WWF for those like five, six months when he came in as like he could have been a star and he got that gimmick and he has to just be a jerk off because other people didn't like that there. He was a good wrestler. Anyway, we got Bill Alfonso. Don't know what he does here in the ring. Taz is a badass here in the corner. Yep.

It just stands there looking ominous.

Fonzie swallows, apparently.

Apparently, huh?

I don't know what he swallows, but.

Some people wish he swallowed that whistle.

That's a good one. Here we go. We got the human Suplex machine. We got Taz, we got JV in the ring right here.

I aspire to be like Taz. My new role model.

Tez is a man that was my favorite wrestler.

Like his son went to NXT already or he's going to nxt. I thought I read Hook was leaving for nxt.

Yeah, I didn't. I didn't hear. I mean I know he was in. Aw.

Well, Taz is going to up Johnny Smith, right?

Pretty much.

Donnie Smith, the out of here. No, don't get me wrong. I love Bill Alfonso, but shut the off of the whistle. What do you think you coach John Tolos 91. Get out of here with a whistle, man. Shut up. Look at that takedown.

Oh, that was slick.

That was great. What a transition that Taz made over these years. Like out of any. I don't know guys, think out of any character who made a better transition from something to what they became other than Taz.

Taz announcer.

No, it's just like something that was not like eh, then Holy shit, man.

Gimmick. When he was more like a right.

Like Taz was the wild man. Now is this. Is there anybody else that you can think of that was big, I think J.T.

Smith. Oh, I guess I'm not sure what you mean by big. Like since.

Yeah, whatever you think. Yeah, whatever you think. In ecw, I think better.

But Taz is definitely. He's his glow up, as they say, is better.

I mean I. You could argue that the Sandman.

Yes, I knew. I knew you're gonna say Sandman.

Yeah, you know, got not. I say better, but I mean at least he was more authentic instead of being a beach bumper.

Right?

And he's had success.

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. But somebody like Sandman, he was a champ already as that shitty gimmick.

That is true.

And then became champ again. Like Taz was just who the this a wild man. Right. Teaming up with Snooker. I'll team it up with Kevin Selling. Right. And now he's this guy that's different. Yeah, that's what I'm looking for. I was like, is there anybody that pops out like that? Tommy Dreamer, maybe?

Yeah.

Or is that more like Sandman?

Well, yeah. Well, I mean, I guess you could say, because Dreamer did win the. The tag titles when he was the Chippendales guy, you know?

Yeah.

With Johnny Gunn. South Sincere.

Yes, John. And we've been through so many wrestlers over these years. Now we're watching Taz, Johnny Smith, and we're at the pyro. We're not even, like, caring about fucking Taz up this dude.

Yeah. This holds no weight.

Like, Taz, I want you to up Sabo. When's it coming? When's it coming, man? And with that said, JB called. Prozac is about to take on Zabu soon. You're gonna watch that with us, right?

Which who?

Taz and Zabu.

When?

December 2, April 13, 1997 at the ECW Arena.

Oh, I'll be back by then for.

Barely Legal Pay per view.

I'll definitely be back by then. We're in October.

Yeah, I know. Just watch the pay per views with us, please. Ah, hook him.

Look.

Look at that.

Oh, freestyle.

He's done. Where's the reference?

What do you mean, where's the ref?

Oh, Jamal's right there. Where? Oh, now he's there. Yeah, yeah, now he's there.

He was checking the submission panne critique of referees.

Yeah, that's what I'd like to do.

Classic Prue. Just, you know, pick on the reference.

Yeah.

I mean, while Alfonso's kicking the table outside.

What do you want me to say? That's my gimmick.

Yeah, it's my gimmick.

You want to be that police officer out there? I'll be that guy. Okay. Hey, the. You got Billy out there.

Billy.

Hey, Billy. Hey. Bill Alfonso is one of the most underrated dudes ever.

I love Billy. Bill Alfonso is the man.

But what he did in WWF WCW here, underrated man.

Have you guys ever heard the story of him and Giant Gonzalez in wwf?

Giant Gonzalez?

What, did grab his dick or something?

No. No. Okay, so he was like. He was like Giant Gonzalez's traveling companion. Yeah, his hand.

He's the tim. Wife for Andre.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And one night they were at some hotel, and Fonzie's in his room, and he gets a call from. From Gonzalez. Hey, can you come to my room? Fonzie goes, okay. And he goes down, knocks on the door. Gonzalez opens the door, butt, ass naked. And There's a. There's a woman on the bed behind him. And he basically says to Fonzie, I'm too big to fit her. Fit in her. Can you warm her up?

Oh, yeah.

And so Fonzie goes, okay, Daddy goes in proceeds to have the time of his life with this girl. After checking, he did check to make sure it was cool with her. And then the Giant Gonzalez, you know, went to town. Fonzie had had to be the. The warm up man, you know.

Not bad.

Yeah.

No sloppy seconds for Billy.

That's a good job, huh? Yeah.

Pin me, pay me.

Med. Oh, my God. Giant Gonzalez banging somebody. What the.

Just Andre the Giant banging somebody.

It's never the same. Imagine if they just. They were just like regular. How weird that would look. Just go regular size. Average old dicks. That'd be funny.

7 foot 24 inch penis.

Yeah, it's like a baby's thumb.

Foreign.

Like that height. It's got to be like 4ft that tall to look like proportion, right?

Negative 6ft tall. 3 inch penis. The opposite.

Yeah.

Well then. Well then you.

I've seen some. I've seen like a dwarf porn time. Little dude was hung like a.

That's what I was just gonna say. It was the. There's the story of. I think it's Cowboy Lang, who's a famous wrestler. And according to legend, that dude was a tripod.

Dick. Dick. Looking like kickstand.

Yeah, he had a kickstand and he was very proud of it. You know, walking around naked in the.

Locker room, it's like Austin Powers me.

Yeah. He takes his hands out. He's.

Yeah.

Balancing.

Taz just this dude up already. Come on.

There we go. That's over.

We're talking about penises. Talking about midges. Kill this dude already. Johnny Smith. You already kicked his ass last week. The we doing rematch with this Taz. You gotta up sabo. Or what? You're gonna up these fake British wrestlers?

What's sad is we still have.

Tell me I'm wrong. Tell me I'm wrong with these things.

No, you're not. You're not wrong. The. The thing is, like I said, we're still six months away from them fighting.

It's coming though.

It is.

Hey, Kiss. At least we got kiss, right?

Yes.

Yeah. Oh, guys, I want parents. It's the best thing all night was kissing. Now you want to shut it off.

Take it away from us.

That sucked. Test. You should have shut up and let your music play.

Who wants to fight? Draw the battle lines.

All right. Shut up. Fonzie.

Yeah.

Oh, it's all the way live temple.

The Lulu Tempo. Welcome to the Lulu Tempo.

I love that little T bottle. Welcome.

You want egg?

Well, speaking of the kow.

You won't beef chow me.

You want carbon?

You want.

Yeah, you do it so much better than I do.

Fire.

We can watch it, I guess. Oh, we can't get into the mall this early.

Loitering. Loitering. Freaking rules.

Think you tough. Think you back.

Come out here behind this Bradley's invader. Can you join it?

We go to came.

Yeah, I think so.

Amax.

I'm gonna fight you outside. Ames.

Ames. Yeah, Ames outside man.

Different out here, boy.

You me back door of Calor.

Calor. That's right. Who are the crit deals you go to Calors?

After my shift to Child World. I'm totally kicking your ass, dude.

Child World?

Yeah, actually, I don't know. I don't know. They might have had child worlds around the country. I'm not sure.

Oh, they didn't even go to. That's what I was waiting for.

It's nice and crisp video though.

That is nice and clean. Saturn looks clean as.

Yeah.

Hey, even cars looks pretty good. Like crap. Ola.

Yeah.

Big daddy's false Big daddy. Man, I just wanted to vibe with that music.

One of them's wearing sneakers and the other one's wearing like nice shoes.

Yeah. A slow daddy smoke. Whatever the he's called. You know what I mean? That's.

No, that is awesome. That's like. That's like your gimmick. You just gotta give them a made up name.

That's what he was like, ah, I'm wearing these shoes or whatever.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whereas a out of here, whatever the other guy's name is. He's wearing like Reeboks. Yeah.

Asics.

Yeah. LA Knight. Yes.

Hey, I love my LA night.

British Night. That's what I was thinking of.

Yeah. My British Knights.

Yeah.

Like nine.

Yeah, I was a cheapo one too when I was nine. No, I wasn't cheap. My mom was cheap. That's fine. But I had the LA nights that were. The pumps.

Yeah.

What were they called? Jv, you know.

No, I don't remember.

You remember the pumps?

The LA Knight pumps. No.

Don'T even.

I've seen them, but I don't remember what they were called. So like I know they existed. You know what I mean?

Really? I thought you'd be on there. Yeah. No, let's see. Oh yeah.

British Night sneakers.

Sorry, sorry.

I know those.

Yeah, they're Colleagues regulators.

Yeah, that sounds right.

Regulators.

Yeah. British knight regulators or the LA gear.

LA gear.

LA gear regulators. Yeah.

Yeah.

Those are the ones with the pumps.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

Two. Both. Gotta keep a zipper in. Good.

Keep written.

JB doesn't know about the la. Yeah. Hey, when I was growing up, JB was like the rich kid kind of. But he wasn't. I know, I know. That's my perspective, though.

I just had, like, two working parents, which was different.

Yeah. And I had one working parent. Yeah.

Most of our friends.

I was like, wow, JB has a whole family. Yeah.

I have two incomes.

You have a mom and a dad.

Oh, blowy.

What the is going on here? Yeah.

What the hell just happened? The meth kicked in.

The rap music game is off the hook on the ship, by the way.

Like, so make ccw. Is the music the music?

Always. All right, so timestamp. Can I get a time stamp here?

33. 30, 31.

Got it. I'm on time. Yeah.

Welcome.

Oh, my boy. Boom. Break this guy's neck. Boom. Right on the bel.

It's a lot of.

Oh, my God.

Coming. It's a wrestling buck.

I'm coming.

Look at those things bounce.

Oh.

Oh, God. That stands test of time.

Oh, my. And we know this is one of our favorite songs ever. Perfect Changes.

I don't want to be a stranger to those things. They are perfect.

Rick likey.

Yeah. What can I say?

Hey, how about Joel Gertner here? This is new to JV because you missed an episode. Look at this guy.

He just said masturbatory fantasies.

Masturbatory.

I swear to God. He just said masturbatory fantasies.

I bet he didn't.

You can get away with every a lot more at 1 o'clock in the morning, you know.

Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, what's this? I'm vibing with this.

Yeah, it's a good song.

Just slaps.

Oh. What the. Is this a fake song?

Well, if. If it's not, this should be our outro.

Yeah. Let's figure it out.

Find it.

I can't understand the words.

I don't need the words. That's that beat.

Just need the beat. The piano taps.

Louie and Mikey. Louie and Mikey are teaming up. I want to see that match. All right, so we got big show, kind of High Incident. Oh, there. They just mentioned it right there. High Incident. I never heard that song, but I like it. Oh, yes. One of my favorite matches ever. Right here. Douglas and Pitbull. Number two, Anthony Durant. Jv, we wanted you here for this match.

All right, I'm watching. He's gonna wrestle with the belts on the whole time.

No. All right.

So I actually, I just learned something new about Shane Douglas that I didn't realize and. Okay, Rick, I don't know if you know about it. Maybe you do. So I'll just phrase the question to you. Why does Shane Douglas have tassels on his boots?

I do not know. Why does Shane Douglas tassels on his boots?

He. He ended up wearing tassels on his boots because he was not confident in his knees and his. His lower. His legs.

To take the attention off it that his legs were small. Right.

He. Right. He said, I. I work my legs all the time and I can't do anything. No matter what it is, I can't get any progress on my leg.

So it's a legit struggle.

I'm gonna wear. I'm gonna wear the tassels to just distract from it.

That makes sense.

Yeah.

That's a legit struggle.

Instead. I didn't quit doing it.

It's just harder for him.

Doesn't do anything.

Yeah. He can't get any gains.

No gains.

He's like. Yeah, No, I mean, Rick Flynn did the same thing. He wore his knee pads on his. On his.

Oh, break his neck.

His calves.

On his calves. Right.

This guy with the broken neck.

Very wolves. What do you say? Gary Wolf for.

They just showed Gary Wolf.

Yeah.

Instead frame with his halo.

It's like a. What were they called?

Seites Cebite.

Ceb.

Yep. I feel like that it's a. I mean, it's a known movie, but I feel like a lot of people overlook it.

Which one? Right here.

Hellraiser.

Oh, yeah.

It's like Pandora's box.

Yes. Yeah. That's the whole team of El Reza.

Yep.

Yeah.

Oh, thanks. Do not want that monster doing that.

Yeah, that's.

And Pitfall 2 targeting the neck of the franchise. Shane Douglas.

Oh, he took that hard on this. His pectoral there.

Starting first. I'm going right after I care. Oh, stomping on him. Hurry up. I had to notice the pit bull one out there. Bandana in the halo. Hey, Halo. Halo. Hey. Hey.

Really? You didn't think you could twist that far can break them, do you know that? Oh, old school neck hang.

Yeah. Hey, no, what's great about this match? You know, for those of us that know what's coming in, Shane has taken the beating this whole match.

Oh, yeah.

So the way that it's going to end. That's fine.

That was a nice pile Driver.

That was a good one. Nice spot there, Joey. Throwing some shade to G. Yep. This is great. Oh, thank you. I would, I would. I like the titties, don't get me wrong, but I'd rather see that full moving. I'd rather see that full.

Yeah, the blade vertical suplex.

Yes, the full vertical suplex drop like instead of cutting away to Francine, then.

You can show the titties again.

Yeah. Do it later. We are only men Like, I'd like.

To do her later.

All night long all night People on the street if we haven't played that song, I would request it again.

All night long.

Yes.

Lionel Richie.

We have played it. That's one of the songs that's just gets me going.

Front of Gary.

That is a cultural song. That song brings people together on that loss. A. Douglas, you, you're working like a chump here against this guy.

He's just a punching bag.

Yeah. Football two is getting way too much work and all right, there we go. That's something. Swinging neck break. Man, he's selling too much.

I mean, to his credit, he has taken an ass kick in this whole match. So he's, he's selling at least you know, he's not just popping.

No, I know. He's selling so much. So.

Right. I get, I get what you're saying though.

The title for the franchise, Shane Douglas, it would be doubly as sweet because that's what would hurt the franchise the most. He lives and dies for a goal for his all encompassing ego. And that ego.

It's fine that he's selling, but Joey's not really putting him over at all in this match.

No, it's not.

I don't think that's one of his strengths on commentary though, is it?

Yeah, I, I, he's, he's more the storyteller.

Yeah, he's a storyteller, but he, sometimes he does miss on getting people over.

Yeah, it's more the storytelling and the snarky comments.

Right. I think it's his story tells more reactionary rather than.

Right.

Actually telling the story of who's should win or who's gonna win, which is not a bad thing. But I say right there. Oh, he drops a little ball.

He's definitely shocked.

That's big. Yeah, that's shocking.

Spaghetti hair. Noodle got noodle hairs.

Noodle here got 88 jersey in the middle. Is that Michael Irvin?

Is that, is that a Cowboys jersey or.

Looks like a Cowboys jersey. 88. It was 88 JV for who? Cowboys.

Was Michael Irvin, I think Michael Irvin, Right.

I thought, oh, we got a 32. Eagles jersey.

Eagles jersey, yeah.

Ricky Waters. Oh, I had that jersey.

You had that one?

Yep.

In this time period, like 96.

Yep.

Nice.

Had it. Middle school had a Ricky Waters. I remember I got a Ricky Waters jersey. Mark Brunel and I think Kerry Collins, I think. All for the same Christmas. Or not for Christmas, but like over the year.

Yeah.

My favorite jersey was Barry Sanders that I had.

Yeah, it's classic. Classic.

Right. A bright spot on an otherwise dull Detroit Lions roster. Who is. Who is their quarterback at that point?

Who?

The lions.

Oh, God, six.

Yeah.

Right?

No, no, like 2002.

Yeah.

Oh, I don't know.

It was a. Wasn't a quarterback, right? Who, Chris?

No, he was. I think he played defense.

Okay. Because I. I think he was on the lines in the mid-90s too, I believe.

Yeah, he was. Yeah.

But.

Yeah, he was. He was.

They had what's name. Herman Moore, too.

Oh, yeah.

And he's good. He was good. They had no. I can't think of.

Damn.

They think of football, video games.

Yeah. Remember Rodney Pete and the Lions at. Rodney Pete?

Yeah. That's who drafted him. No, Rodney Pete was like big coming out of college. And then who'd they have after that? Joey Harrington was later. Harrington. Yeah. Who the was in the middle?

They had like, Kent Graham.

Oh, it was Scott Mitchell. That's right.

Yes. I'm at Joe. Yes. Scott Mitchell.

And it was Charlie Batch.

Charlie. Ah, Charlie bat. Charlie Batch was on the rate. I mean, Steelers.

Yeah. And with Rodney Pete, Scott Mitchell, then Charlie Batch for a few years, then Joey Harrington, John Kitna, Dan or Veloski. Then Matt Stafford and now Jared Goff.

That sucked. P. Number two, Douglas, wants to finish off both pitfalls. There's the full. Oh, this is a big spot here coming up.

Yep.

Shane's like this. I'm this dude up. Hey. And I agree with him. You things been busting his ass not getting any championship matches. He's dealing with tag team guys.

Here we go. True.

Yeah, here we go. Hey, football knows better he get the off the apron. All right, jb, give us. Give us your raw thought on this, please, while you're watching on this. We're just gonna. We're gonna lay out. You tell us what's going on.

I think it's entertaining. I mean, this cripple's about to get in the ring with his hands in his pocket.

All right, watch it.

That was dumb. Hits him with his durag, I think. Oh, geez, oh, wait, he's still really hurt, right?

Yeah.

Yeah, that's a real halo brace still drilled directly into his skull.

Oh, man.

Dude, that's the.

The crowd is pissed there, people.

Dude, jv, this is what we were talking about. The crowd is.

That's why we wanted your reaction on this. Like, this is crazy. This is huge.

Watch the crowd as they try to get Francine and Shane out. People are spitting on them. They're throwing stuff at them. They're jumping the barricades.

Shane's running out of there. They want to kill Shane.

Yep.

Shane's got heat, man, because they love Pitbull number one.

How do you rehearse that, too? Not up his.

Very carefully.

Yeah.

They thought Shane was the biggest heel ever.

That's a very heel thing to do, dude.

Awesome.

It's not like that's a staged injury, like. Like Rick just said those. That's in his skull.

Yep. And you can tell it's real because look, you got Devin Storm and Hack Myers and Mikey all hanging out.

Yeah.

You know, loose P's right there.

Joe G. Like, shut the. Like, shut the up.

Yeah. Look at this crowd, man.

It's awesome. This is Ultimate Jeopardy 96, right?

Yep.

Oh, we're going live. Fan cam here.

Yep. No, no, Shane was not in the back seat. Shane was in the trunk, I believe, at that point. And now Paulie's kicking his ass.

What the. What a Joe.

Yep.

No, it's a great show. Not a show. It's a great show.

Peewee's about to take a swing at him.

This is wrestling right here. Yeah. You have it in the ring, and then you take it out of the ring. So good.

So good.

Little recap here now.

I think it just replayed in the next episode.

Yeah. No, let me let you guys in on a little secret. All right? So Gary's neck was totally healed at that point.

Yes. I knew that.

Okay. That was still a real halo brace that was screwed into his skull. That was not a lie. However, his. His neck was healed by that point, and he had told. I think it was Paulie, that, hey, I'm gonna. I'm getting the halo brace off. And Paulie was like, can you wait a week? You know, can you keep it on for another week? Because I got this idea, and that was his idea, was to have Shane grab him by the halo and throw him down. And obviously, as you can see, it, it worked pretty well because Shane almost got murdered by the crowd.

That was brilliant.

Yeah, but it was still. I mean, that's that's legit.

He.

Yeah, yeah, that's like old school, you know, Southern town. You need the cops to escort you out because the crowd's about to stab you kind of heat.

Exactly.

Yeah.

All right. So, man, no, great. That was a fun episode, if you.

Wanted my honest opinion on that. I thought it was really good. I think it was great booking at the end. It kind of repositions Shane as a. As like the top heel now, right? I guess.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, I would say that's. They certainly succeeded in accomplishing that.

Perfect. Yeah, that's exactly what happened. And Shane Douglas just. Just keeps getting better from that point. And. And then you got Taz. Yeah, we're goofing on Taz. Like all these. Johnny. Johnny, whatever the. His name is still wrestling him. But we're building up the Taz and Sabu still. And just so much good stuff going on.

We're building towards a pay per view.

Yeah, the first pay per view ever of VCW is coming, man. So shit's getting great and it's fun. It's fun to talk about this. And guys, I enjoyed it. I hope you enjoyed it. I was all over the place at some point. The.

We talked about a lot of random in that first episode.

Yeah, we did.

Yeah.

That first episode. All over the place. Fun as.

Yeah.

Anyway, thank you for joining us and listening and with that said, let's kind of wrap things up now. I want to wrap things up, but we don't have anything to say. Do we have anything to say?

So you can just wrap it up because it's 12:30 in the morning.

Okay, well, you get what I'm saying though.

You get what I'm saying?

I know what you're saying. I just want to double check. Okay. All right, so please check us out. We'll be back in a couple weeks with the next episode of ecw, the extreme set of live cast. It will be covering easily hardcore TV episodes 183 and 184 from October 22 and October 29 of 1996. Please also check out JV and I on the Bottom Line wrestling cast. And we have just recently covered Stone Cold Steve Austin back when he was stunning Steve Austin on episode 16, Sonic Steve. And that was planned to change September through October of 1992. And he's making a change there. He's going from a singles wrestler. He's about to be a tag team wrestler. Please check that out. And continuing episodes from there covering stunning Steve Austin and the Hollywood Blonde on the Bottom Line Wrestling cast Also please check us out on Twitter x whatever the it's called. Follow me Mike Pru, MPRU 83 Follow JV @ John Van Damage Follow Rick BB @ Leo Wyatt 85 Please check us out on Twitter x at Extreme Cast thank you for listening. Thank you for being part of this podcast and listen to all our thank you. We don't do this without you. So long!

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