Worry. Worry extra. Oh, my God.

They can all kiss my ass.

A day.

Thank you, sir. May I have another culture raven never more. This ain't WCW. This ain't Monday night, Raw. This ain't SmackDown. This ain't even WWE. This, my friend, is.

Welcome to the Extreme Ecw Live cast. And this week we are doing a supercut special. It's our Ecw Supercut special number ten. And it's Hostile City showdown from 1995. It's april 15, 1995. I'm Mike Brew along with JV, as always. And we are back with the extreme ecw live cast. JV, how are you doing?

I'm doing well, man. Good to be back at it.

Here we are back at it. We are back with a supercard special. It's been a while since we've done one. The last one we done was The Return of the Funker, which was a hell of a show. I think that was one of our best supercards that we've done. So now we got hostile city showdown. 95. We're going to see how it compares. Bula. Come on, bueller. Goddamn. So, yeah, we got bueller. And there's a lot more to talk about. But before we get to that, thank you as always, Btt Army, for being subscribers to the Btt Patreon, being on the $5 tier so you can get this Extreme Ecw Livecast. And also, thank you, Btt, JV, Goon Squad members who are the special niche group that are part of this ecw Extreme Livecast and also part of the WCCW Livecast. Not the live cast, but their fucking show and then the NWA show. So, yeah, Goon Squad, thanks for all your support, checking us out here on the Extreme Ucw Livecast. And we've been at it for over two years here. It's 1995. We started all the way back in 93. JV back with the super destroys. You know that shit.

Oh, yeah.

And here we are with fucking one of the good shows, one of the breakout shows for early ecw Hostile City Showdown 95. All right, but before we get into all of this great goodness we have for you, we got to remind you, check us out on Twitter. Follow us on Twitter at extremecast at extremecast. Follow me. Mike Pru at npru 83. And follow JV at John Van Damage. But then also, you got to give some love and you got to check out JV and I show that we do week after week after week for over three years. It's called the bottom line. Wrestling cast the career of stone cold Steve Austin. We are 132 episodes in chronological covering the career of Stone Cold Steve Austin's career starting in December of 95, all the way up to where we are now in August. We're heading into August of 2003, August 2003. And we've done many other episodes. Watch along special Countdown episodes covering his years, 9697-98, 99, 20 00 20 01 We've covered all that on The Bottom Line Wrestling cast. So check us out over there. You can follow us on Twitter at bottom line. Cast all right. But again, before we get to the show, we do have a couple of shout outs. And these shoutouts are for Rick Biebee. Rick Beebe did hit us up at Extremecast on Twitter and on our last episode was the debut of Bula Mcgillicuddy. And Rick Beebie gave us some great information, not only for me, not only for JV, but for everyone out there. And I figured we got to share it. If you love Bueller Mcgillicuddy, Rick Bieber let us know that there is an adult film, also known as a porno, called Daydreaming with Amanda Day. I haven't seen it. I didn't check it out. When he posted it, I said thank you, but I didn't look it up yet because I had to think, like, how am I going to look this up? I don't want to put this on a certain search engine. So I hadn't done it yet. I believe him. It's out there. Daydreaming with Amanda day. I'm definitely going to have to check it out. JV, do you know anything about this Daydreaming with a man today?

No, I don't.

All right. I thought I was pretty good with porn, and I always looked at JV because he's pretty good with porn.

This kind of predates it, though. 95 is a little early.

Yeah, 95 is early. So that would be some fucking old school.

It wasn't as available. Like, I couldn't get into, like, a store and get a video.

And I'm going to say hard.

Once the Internet popped, though, that's when my really started to build an archive and a database full of useless porn knowledge.

Yeah. And you were the first in the neighborhood to have Internet. I always consider you to be the first to know porn. Yeah.

Even before that. I remember going to BCC, my aunt.

Yeah. Printed out Pam Lane.

Printed out black and white pictures of like, Pam Anderson and Jenny McCarthy. McCarthy I printed, and I would just go and I still feel the nervousness now that I think about that.

I would have waited run to that.

For that thing for those to come out.

Oh, shit. Good old days. To think, here 95 Amanda Day, just barren titsall. Imagine having that printing out PCC library running to get those things.

95. 94 was probably around the time that I was going to BCC.

Shit, that's pretty early. Yeah. 95, 94, I was what? 995? 94? I was no, 95.

94 was 1110.

Yeah, I was twelve and 95. I don't think I was looking for porn yet. I was almost there, though.

Yeah, I was definitely looking for naked chicks like Pam Anderson and Jenny McCarthy.

Right. Porn. Okay.

That was the equivalent of porn at the age I was.

Okay, so 1995 was WrestleMania eleven. WrestleMania Eleven was when Jenny McCarthy and Pamela Anderson were there with Sean Michaels and Diesel. And I was definitely looking at those tatas. I was totally in tune to that. So I think maybe, like, right after that, I was like, I want to see what's behind that dress. That was the first time I was thinking, I want to see that. It's not like back in 1990 or 89 when I saw Miss Elizabeth, I was like, I want to see behind that. I was like, oh, she's a pretty woman. But I wasn't thinking, let me see those tits.

Yeah.

When it was Pam Anderson, Jenny McCarthy that I was like, I want to see those tits. Yeah.

I mean, dude, it was like 93 that I was probably because it was right around the time that Jenny McCarthy was playing it of the year. And that was in 93.

So yeah, it does add up around that time. All right. So. Anyway, we haven't seen Daydreaming with Amanda. Day? We'll look for it. We'll find it. I'm just thinking, though, at this time, daydreaming with Amanda Day in 94 because she's not in until 95. So maybe it was early 95, 94. I'm thinking there's a bush there. And I wasn't into that.

Probably.

Yeah.

Dreaming with Amanda Day.

But if there was a bush there, that would probably been a good time period because Gavin Rosdale bush was a fucking cool thing at the time.

I don't know if it was a real porn.

No, you look it up. Yeah.

I'm not getting any hits. Amanda Day, 90s porn.

All right, Rick. BB. Prove us wrong. Prove JV wrong. Find it. Find the porn. Don't send us any viruses. All right. Also, another thing Rick BB did message because I did put out a tweet like, hey, we're going to record tonight hostile City Showdown. So Rick did send a little tweet about hostile city showdown. He said, I believe this is where dreamer Raven Bueller's backstory is revealed, kicking off two straight years of amazing storyline and a rivalry that defines ecw. And that is true. What we're going to see a little bit later is really a great storyline and helps kick off this feud that's going to go on for a couple of years. So good shit there real quick.

So I googled Amanda Day 90s porn. The top hit was a Twitter 90s lesbian seduction. Porn at 90s Lesbian Destruction.

Destruction.

Seduction. Okay. Internet is wild. Okay.

All right. One more thing before we get into the show proper, which is Hostile City Showdown from April 15, 1995, I do want to bring up a show that was the night before on April 14 in Jim Thorpe, Pennsylvania, with a crowd of only 350 people. This was the rundown of the card. So you had Taz defeating Stevie Richards. Dean Malinko defeated Mikey Whipwreck. He had a tag team title match. Public Enemy defeated the Pit Bulls, which is going to be a main match on the next show. I don't know why they did it the night before. And then another match that's going to be on this show. Coming up on Hostile City showdown is Ian Rotten defeats Axeron in a strap match this time. And these motherfucking brothers just keep going at each other, stipulation match after stipulation match, and that continues to go on. We also get Tommy Dreamer versus Raven. Another big match that we're going to see here on Hostile City Showdown. And here at Jim Thorpe, Pennsylvania, tommy Dreamer defeats Raven. Now I'm going to bring up right now that this whole storyline, Raven versus Tommy Dreamer goes on for a long time. And a main part of that story, the main part of the story is that Tommy Dreamer never beats Raven. Raven always beats Tommy Dreamer. But here on April 14 in Jim Thorpe, Pennsylvania, tommy Dreamer beats Raven. And then that never gets acknowledged ever again. So at first they were like, okay, yeah, on the house shows and all these shows, tom Dream is going to beat Raven. But then Paulie probably thought, all right, that would be cool if Tommy Dream never beats Raven. Raven always just beats Sass, always wins. Tommy Dream is always looking to beat Raven. So that's what they ended up doing. But here's one example of Tommy Dreamer actually beating Raven, which would probably never happen again until the end of the feud. So I just wanted to point that out to you guys. Then in the main event you have Shane Douglas and Cactus Jack defeating Ron Simmons and Sandman. So that's what happened the night before hostile city showdown. And from there now let's get to it and I'll give you a little preview. We're going to break this down as we always do. We're going to watch one half of the show, take a break and then watch the second half of the show. So what we have on the first half of the show for Hostile City Showdown is going to be Mikey Whiprack versus Stevie Richards, subo Gingen versus Tony Stetson. In the third match we're going to have Axel Rotten versus Ian Rotten. Our fourth match will be Raven versus Tommy Dreamer. And then our first half main event will be for the Ecw TV Championship. JV this is a good one. Eddie Guerrero versus Dean Malenko.

Oh yeah.

So that's what we have in the first half. And then we're going to have a good amount of matches in the second half. So let's get started with the first half of Hostile City Showdown. And again, if you're listening to us right now, you have access or you have potential for access to the Ecw folder in the Btt drive. And if you don't have access to it yet and you're listening to us now, then email book into [email protected]. Ask Mike Mills for access to the drive, go to Ecw folder. You can go to hostile city showdown. Watch Along With US you don't have to watch along with us because we provide the commentary we get the audio in the background, so you get the full effect if you just listen to us. But if you want to watch it, it's available in the drive. Just ask for access, booking the [email protected]. All right, so we're going to start off right at the start of the show. JV, you got your stuff ready to go?

Yes. 158 38, right?

Right. That's the length of the show, 158 38. We're going to start. We're going to watch the first 1 hour and two minutes, okay? So I'll give a countdown, as we usually do here. Three down to one. Then I'll say play, and when I say play, we all click play and get started here. Here we go. Three, two, one, play. All right, so we get the countdown going here. Blank screen. And now we got something here. It says Ecw Arena. April 15, 1995. Hostile City showdown. JV, you have that on your screen? Yes. All right, what do you got for time? Might as well do that now while nothing's going on. 25, 26, 27. Spot on. Here we go. Oh, we got some subliminal messages going on. Fuck. What was that? It was a bunch of words that just showed up on the screen. All right, I got to fix my audio so I can hear. All right, so we got Mikey Whiprack versus Stevie Richards in here. For Ecw fans. This is the debut of Stevie Richards wearing his little short shorts and his cut off his little belly shirt, which will become a staple of his character from that point on. This is the debut of that. Here we go. Stevie versus Mikey. Hey, I'm ruined for Mikey here. Fuck Stevie.

Yeah, I never really liked him.

Stevie Richards.

Mikey whiprack on his handsome man.

Mikey Whiprack is the man. Mikey Whipper throwing punches right away.

Mikey whiprack beats Richard to the punch. And Mikey Flores.

We got the crowd. Chan beat his ass. Mike, kick his ass.

How much bigger is Daniel Bryan than.

Mikey?

Yeah, probably not much.

Probably, like, two inches.

And Mikey Wisely rolls out.

Mikey's not happy. He went to the back. He got tripped by Raven. Raven's out there. Mikey got tripped. He's like, Fuck this. I'm out of here. This isn't fair. This is shenanigans. This is bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. So he's coming back. He's got Hack Myers, Shaw, Cha, and there's Yule from Breaking Bad. And the crowd is saying shaw. Hack Myers.

Dude tell over every time he comes on, right?

Hacked up haircut. Myers gets the pop. Oh, what was he be looking at? What are you waiting for?

See, the only one that didn't know.

They were there, I guess he was just talking to Raven and turned around and got smacked the fuck up. Cover. Weak cover.

You got a raven never moha.

Come on, Mikey. You got to wrap the leg there. Oh, nice drop kick.

Beautiful drop kick.

Really great.

Richards buys it back to again. Arm drag takeover.

Nice arm drag takeover. And Mikey's in control. Stevie's down on the mat. I think John Finnegan is the referee here. Yeah, this is John Finnegan. I know the difference. Now. John Finnegan looks more bummy than Jim Molina.

Yeah, he does. A little bit more put together.

Yeah. And I think that's because Jim Molina is a follower of addict streamcast on Twitter.

Yeah. We're totally not biased people here.

Yeah. Finnegan is not.

Finnegan probably doesn't even have Twitter.

All right. The crowd is just channing. Mikey, Mikey, Mikey. And we got a little wrestling match here.

This collegiate.

That's not wrestling. This is wrestling.

Have you watched the South Park episode yet, dude?

We haven't. We've been building it up.

We're going to watch long for that, right?

Yeah, I've been waiting to do it. Every time that I scroll through the cable, the guide, and I see South Park, I look, I see, oh, is the wrestling one on? And then if it is, I'm like, Shit, I can't watch it. I know I can't watch it. I got to wait for JV and I to do it for the extreme ecw live cast as a little bonus. So what we'll have to do is we'll have to do, like, our regular episode, then at the end, that'll be a bonus at the end. Is that how we should do it? No, do it as it stand alone.

Do its own thing. Yeah.

And just, like, put it out there. Yeah. What's?

It like 45 minutes?

Probably not even it's not long. Probably only 20 minutes.

The audio in the background.

Yeah. And then talk about it. Good.

And Richard's crying out in pain.

Yeah. I'm looking forward to that. Yeah.

I'm going to get so stones for that. I haven't watched it in a while either, so it's going to be.

It'S.

Supposed to be a big special coming out on Thanksgiving for South Park on Paramount. Plus, that's where they are now. All right. Mikey goes for a cover. Only a two count. They've been working in the middle of the ring. They're working arm locks. Yeah.

This is not what I expected.

Yeah. This is not monkey flips. All right. This is not the style we expect from Mikey Whiprack. I guess it comes down to Stevie Richards not being that not experienced at this point. It is the opening match, so just trying to get the crowd going here. Yeah. The crowd chanting, Daisy Dukes. Daisy Duke. Daisy Duke. Because of Stevie Richards. Little Daisy Dukes he's got going on. Stevie Richards is a heat seeker right here, though, back in 1995, a dude wearing Daisy Dukes and a little belly shirt.

One, two and Richard rolls out again.

You know what happened if you wore that in 1995, you'd just be called gay. And that's the bottom line.

Yeah.

And that's what they're alluding to here at this point. Yeah. You're gay. You're gay.

But in, like, the late 80s, early 90s. It didn't have that stigma.

No, not with athletes.

Well, I mean, he's a wrestler.

No, I mean more like football. Like, oh, I got my football jersey on practices. Yeah. And I got my short shorts because.

That'S Wesley Snipes, I think, wore one. And white man can't jump.

He's Wesley Snipes.

Takedown. And again, Raven trips up Mikey.

Everyone's probably wondering how come his cox and I hanging out on those shots. They have special underwear in the 80s for basketball players. I'm not really asking you, JB.

I don't know why I felt like.

I needed to answer that.

I had an opinion on it. I was going to come up with something.

Oh, shit. Nice spot by Steve Richards. Throwing Mikey up. Throws Mikey up. Mikey lands on his stomach, but then he's selling the crotch. Like, hey, good for Mikey. He's selling that. He had a big dick. Oh, yeah, my big dick hit the fucking mat. Hurts. Here we go. Scott Levy outside of the ring. Raven there looking on with his little perm here. It's so cool to see Raven knowing what he went through in WCW and WWF.

Yeah.

Being this brilliant, great mind of a person who in WWF. Not only was he Johnny Polo, but he was an active writer and an important person backstage for a while because of how brilliant he is. They gave him that opportunity now, right? Yeah. He's out of the industry now. Mikey gets the win, but he pulls off the win like he usually does. But right away Raven heads into the ring. But Hack Myers is there. Go. Right after Raven. We got the Shaw got the shot chance. Well, now we got the pit bulls.

The cluster fucking.

Yeah, we get the cluster fuck going on. So the pit bulls are here to help out Raven. Apparently Stevie goes after Hack pit bulls after. I'm going to guess we're going to get the Public Enemy coming, right? There they go.

There they are, the Nick's gear.

Yeah, they got their next gear going. Public Enemy is there to battle with the pit bulls who they have a match with later in the show, which I don't like. If they have a match later in the show, let's fucking wait till later in the show to see them face off. Couldn't this match just be between Mikey and Stevie? Yeah, have Raven involved because Raven is connected with Stevie. But why the fuck are the pit bulls involved in this? That's how we start off. Hostile city showdown. Mikey gets a little win against Stevie. We get some build up to the tag team match. And Public Enemy is talking here. Yeah. We never know what they're saying. Yeah, who knows what the fuck they're saying? All right, so it looks like we're joining a match in progress. Tony Stetson hitman against Tisubo or subo ginjin. So it looks like this dude, I don't even think he's Japanese his name is Tsubo Ginjin. He just looks like a stripper, like a fucking white dude from New Jersey stripper. That's what he looks like. With face paint on and like Jimmy Snooker tights. Does this guy look Japanese to you, JV?

No, not at all.

No.

I thought it was Cody Rhodes. I thought it was Stardust.

His face paint is stardust. His hair looks like Cody Rhodes, but he's tan. Get a nice tan. This dude is not fucking Japanese. Maybe he is, but I've never seen a tan Japanese guy like this. Give me a close up of this guy's face. Whatever he did, he fucking did a leg drop on Tony Stetson. Got the win. Now he's pegging off the crowd. Oh, now Tony Stetson is going to get his heat back. Oh, yeah. I'm going to double axe handle you and beating you up outside the ring now. Like anybody gives a fuck about Tony Stetson. What? They showed us 2 seconds of that. Now they cut to the third match. All right, so what do we got here? We got Axel rotten. All right, let's try to lay out and see what he has to say.

It's like Fat Bobby.

Ian fat Bobby.

Looks like the guy that ate Bobby.

I look like Bobby. No, Bobby and is in shape. You're not bobby eating too much. Actually.

Trinkets. Who says that? Nobody.

Trinkets what is this, Christmas time of the fuck it all right, so in the front row, we got a sign says, Viewers Choice axel versus Ian. And what Axel is saying is, what do you want, and? I quit. Match. You want to lose or leave town? Yeah, I want a loser leaves town. Both of you fucking losers leave town.

Ian and Axel, how confidently do you think he bought that skull shirt he's wearing? Do you think he was like, I'm getting this.

I'm wearing this?

Host of city showdown.

Oh, yeah, that's my shirt.

Fucking eight.

Fucking Hot Topic. I'm wearing it.

Save one of those fucking Halloween tablecloth that he just cut. There we go. Some badass weapons, though.

He raises the bat bob wire. Hey, guess what? We already saw a bob wire match back at Return of the Funker, and that's what they root for again.

The what?

Oh, he's saying this is going to be a bad breed death match. Everything that's in that trash barrel is going to be used. So there's a shit ton of bullshit weapons in that barrel. Oh, here comes Ian double axe handles at a back. Fuck you, Axle. Ian fucking shaved his head. He looks better than his brother Singapore Kane.

He looks like DAX Hardwood. Is that his name?

DAX Harwood?

Yeah, the dude from FDR. Yeah, that's the one with the mustache.

And the ball head, right? Yeah. Fuck him up.

There we go. That's what we want to see. Oh, hit him like a bitch. There you go.

So it looks like we're just going to get a fucking shitty blood bath here. Let's see what kind of brutality we get.

That jersey in the crowd. Grimson. Who the fuck was grimson?

Grimson. Take a look. What team was it?

Couldn't tell. It looked like a Cleveland Browns jersey.

Yeah. This would have been before Baltimore, right? Yeah, close.

Actually, Baltimore was what, 96?

Yeah. Oh, man. Just fucking Axle with w a bat swing and just bounced off his brother's belly. Now he's just grinding it on Ian's head outside the ring. Joey Styles. Otherwise, this is not on the Disney Channel. On the family channel. It has nothing to do with this being hardcore. Disney Channel would never fucking blink an eye at you.

Ecw and Disney's Channel doesn't air wrestling. Yeah, fuck what they want. Ecw not in their business model. That's why, like, fucking Home Depot doesn't sell toys. Star wars action figures.

You go to the toy section at Home Depot.

Home Depot's. Next commercial.

Yeah. You'll never see nerdy ass Star Wars toys like that.

Like, you see a toys for US.

He wrapping a cord. Yeah, he's got a chain in his hands now. So Ian's got chains now. He's got the bob wire mat. Now he's wrapping the bat and the wire all around. His brother Axel just tossed him into the corner of the ring. So this has not just become a Bob Dwyer bat match. This has just become a Bob Dwyer match. Oh, my God. Just pulling at him, pulling that bob wire through his shirt, ripping it. And we've said this before when we've covered these matches, that this is really, at the time in the magazines, the Pwi inside wrestling, those types of magazines, they would spotlight Ian and Axel Rotten every once in a while. And that is what many people knew of Ecw, was, all these guys, they're bloody bob wire bats and blah, blah, blah. So this is really was the early image for many people that were wrestling fans around 95 into 96 of what Ecw was.

I see what you're saying. That's a good point.

Because they weren't always highlighting Eddie Guerrero versus Dean Malinko. Right. Like, this would be the COVID story.

We're only emphasizing on those guys because we know what they've become, right? Yeah, that's a good perspective.

I wasn't thinking of this is what was highlighted as being, oh, shit, or Saboo going through a table, things like that. It wasn't all the good matches. It would take somebody to actually watch the show, to say, oh, shit, there actually is good wrestling other than this crazy stuff. And that's when you really become a fan, is you see this. You're interested because, oh, let me check that crazy stuff out. But then you actually see good wrestling, and it's like, oh, shit, it's really good. And people are like, no, that's just fucking bob wire and bullshit. No, there's good wrestling. Eddie Guerrero, di Malinko. Who the fuck is that? You'll see that kind of thing, boy, will you see. And it was true. But this right here, what we're seeing, this bullshit is crap. And I believe it's crap. In my opinion. I don't like it.

As an adult, I don't.

Yeah, as an adult, I don't.

But maybe this does nothing. When I was younger, it was cool. I think it was cool because I wasn't supposed to be watching it. Yeah. Like, I knew it wasn't for kids, so I was like, this is cool because I'm not supposed to be watching it. But as an adult, like, death matches and shit, some of them are good, but this is not one of them.

The earliest cCW that I did see and when I did see tapes of 1995 Ecw, this stuff wasn't included. And we talked about that in the weeks prior that Axel Ron, Ian Ron matches were never on Ecw TV. They were always just on the tapes you had to buy. So when I watch Ecw TV programming, you would never see Ian versus Axelon. So I didn't see this brutal shit. Most of the programming is not like this.

So you're telling me this becomes a theme for these two guys?

For them, it goes on for a little bit longer, yeah.

No shit.

These guys have been going back and forth. The last match that we watched, I believe Ian won, and then before that was Axel. I think they just take turns winning matches that in reality, don't mean shit other than just to get the crowd hype because they're not building anything.

Like amateur.

No, I agree. I totally agree with that. This is amateur because there is no psychology to this other than, I'm going to beat your ass. There's no story. Where's the story? Where's the promos that always favored you? That kind of shit? I always protected you and you never fucking appreciated anything.

You took all the good candy out of my bag for Halloween.

Yeah, it I was trying to watch Skinner Max and you fucking ratted me out. Something as much as brothers can get into arguments, I don't think you go on, like, a tour of bloodbath matches.

No, me and my brother have gotten into plenty of arguments. We'll probably get into arguments of the day we die, but we would never have a death match. My brother and I are arguing isn't like, unhealthy argument. I guess you have to have a brother to understand.

Yeah, I have a younger brother, but.

I don't have well, I'm just speaking.

I'm around him to listeners. Yeah. Considering the time of this feud in 1995, you know, they're playing off of Brett versus Owen in 94. You know what I mean? I guess. Yeah. It has to be because that was a huge feud on the biggest stage. Owen and Brett, and they were legit brothers. These guys are not legit brothers. No, they were just a fucking tag team. The bad breed. That kind of looked like fucking shitty, Nasty Boys. And they said, oh, let's have a feud, brother versus brother because we suck at wrestling. The only thing we can do is just be fucking brutal. And here we go. We got ian Rotten gets the pinfall over Axle Rotten. But I think the reality of this feud is let's be the extreme Brett versus Owen feud and have no psychology to it at all other than let's just keep fighting back and forth, different stipulation every week, every month, whatever the fuck.

I'm buying that take. I think that's a good take.

And my final word on it oh, Bueller. But my final word on that feud is I'm sick of it. Can it fucking end? I know there's supposed to be some great match coming up between them, and we'll see about that. But right now it sucks. All right, we got a little promo here. Stevie Richards back out there looking healthy even though he just got beat. And he's with Joey Raven and Bueller. Let's listen to what they have going on here.

What a beautiful day it is. What a beautiful day it is. But you know what, Joey Styles? I don't think everybody is on cloud nine like Steven Richards. You know who I'm talking about, right? Tommy Dreamer. Now, I don't think there's a person on this planet that is crazier than Tommy Dreamer. You want to know why? I'll tell you. Number one in a Generation X gauntlet match. Yes, Tommy Dreamer did defeat Johnny. Hop on Tony STATSON. Remember that. But that softened him up and Raven DDT him on the floor and destroyed him. Then number two, Dreamer, comes out again and wants a match with my man Raven Banks. Fat Boom DDT on the floor again. One, two, three. Wasn't that number three? Dreamer is so crazy, he wants a third match against my man Raven. Damn right he does. Damn right he does. Only he is going to get everything he deserved. Because way back when, Tommy Dreamer, people in Philadelphia, tommy Dreamer is not the nice guy that you all think he is. There was a certain young lady back in summer camp by the name of Bula Mcgillicotti. This young lady here, believe it or not, used to be about, I guess, £320. And she used to be a dermatologist dream. Dermatologist. Used to they used to get houseboats and everything just off of her because she had so many zits on her face and everything. However, Tommy Dreamer treated this girl like a piece of crap. The only man that were treated her with respect was my man Raven. M you. Anyway, today, as you can see out there, no zip face, no fat slop. She is she is pure penthouse centerfall. And tonight, Tommy Dreamer once again, with all this around you, the Raven will crucify you.

Pretty good.

That was good. Good from Stevie Richards, man.

Definitely.

That should have been a promo that was Raven cutting, but Stevie did it. Stevie put the story over. Bueller was a fat pig covered in zits. Tommy dream was an asshole. Jock treated her like shit. And Raven was the guy that was nice to her, which totally makes sense when you think back to childhood. It's always like that girl Raven wasting no time.

Dreamer face first into the Turnbull.

Somebody treat their nice. Asshole doesn't treat her nice. The asshole ends up growing up. And everybody loves the asshole.

What's your timestamp? My shit froze real quick.

Okay, I got a 27 57, 2 seconds behind nine.

Let me know when you get to 28 38, 30.

Okay, 20 seconds away from that.

That's fine. I won't miss too much.

All right, so right now what's going on is they're battling around the Eagles Nest. They went into an area that said no admittance, which is pretty cool. So we didn't know what was going on there. They were probably just going over the match like, yeah, we got to do this, we got to do that. Now they're battling back over again right below Joey Styles and Eagles Nest, where the tables are usually set up. Ravens got Tommy Dreamer set up for a back. He's going for driver back. Body drop, JV, I'm at 28 46 47.

Yeah, you're a little late.

50. Hang on, because I was holding the match. You are 29 four now. Yes. All right, so right now, Raven is laid out on the table and we got 29, two, three, four. And Tommy camera just nails Raven in the head.

That shot of his bloody face.

We got a shot from the Eagles Nest, right? Is that what you have? Yeah. Go for a suplex. Yes.

We're down.

Dream has got the suplex. Boom. Suplex on the stage. All right, dream. Alyssa's, arm up. Yeah, he is busted open. He didn't look as busted open a second ago when you said that, but yeah, when he looked up, like fucking Harvey Too face.

That guy's just like a candy cane in the ground.

A few weeks back, Dreamer and Raven went to summer camp together. They were rivals as children.

Oh, shit. Almost broke the wall. Throwing Raven into that wall. Yeah, the sheet rock sucked up. Dream is down. I mean, Raven's down on the ground and Tommy Dream has the fucking sink. Where'd that come from? They don't have a fucking kitchen in the back. All right, so he nailed Raven with the sink and now he's grabbing them, going down the aisle, tossed them right into the ring post. Tommy's saluting the crowd. He's got that sink still. Raven went over the railing and boom, a shot. Kitchen sink to Raven's head one time, two times.

That looked like there's no forgiveness on.

That fucking yeah, there's no give on that shit. That's right out of fucking house.

Pick my chair.

Yeah, this is my chair. I paid for this. You take it oh, fucking Raven just dove into Tommy Dreaming's nutsack 15 minutes later.

You know, I wish I really give my chair away.

Yeah, I need that hour and a.

Half left in the show.

Yeah, there's a long time to go in this show. Standing up sucks. Oh, fuck. Raven just nailed Tommy in the head with it. They're just going from side to side. No, back into the ring. All right, so Raven throws Tommy in the ring and the referee finally gets into the ring. It's funny how the ref is not in the ring. It's like, yeah, I'm not counting you guys out, so I don't need to be in the ring. Huge dreamer in sign. Guy in the front row. Ecw ain't summer camp. That guy's in tune with the storylines. Big time. Bula was in summer camp. Tommy wanted to see that guy's.

Chance is politically incorrect on something.

Well, look at this. All right, I was going to talk about summer camp, but fuck this. Tommy Dreamer's got a dinosaur.

Reptar.

Reptar was this fucking rugrats Reptar. He fucking just smashed Ravens balls with a dinosaur and now birthday cake. The fuck is that? No, that was eggs. It was a carton of eggs. He just slammed on the Raven's head. Who the fuck brought in twelve eggs? Carton of eggs? Yeah. He had to wait that long to give the eggs anything.

Break any of them.

What the fuck?

That's a whole lot of responsibility.

That's pretty good that they didn't break them within that 1st 45 minutes of the show. All right, so we're in the ring. Raven is going for DDT. Boom. DDT, which will become known as the even flow. Tommy Dreamer is down the center of the ring. Stevie Richards is talking to Bueller. Bueller doesn't know what the fuck is going on. She's acting like she knows what's going on. Raven sticking his two arms out. Classic Raven pose as it will come to be. Crucified Tommy, and he's going to go for another DDT. Boom. Second DDT. That's it, man. Come on. Pin him. Pin him. Raven not choosing to pin Tommy dreamer. I think we got a mistake here.

Third lazy pin, though. Yes, very lazy pin. You're trying to win the match, buddy? Are you just trying to get a photo?

Photo up. If Grilla Monsoon was calling this match, she'd be flipping out. There's no way you can win a match like this without covering.

Just a disgrace.

You got to hook the leg. Oh, now Ravens going for a DDT outside. No, Tommy blocks it on the outside. Tommy hits a DDT on the concrete. Oh, my God. Joey hasn't been saying that yet. The fuck? Come on.

When does he start doing it?

He did it already, but it's not part of his regular routine yet. Richards is in there. Joey Styles just said, where's the disqualification? Maybe, where's the disqualification in that case? Tommy Dream had just fucking DDT the ref. Now Bueller. Bueller is hitting fucking Tommy in the back. Tommy grabs Bueller by the head. Oh, he sat her up. He sets her up. A pile. Driver. He's got that box in his face, man. In the box. Boom. Foul. Driver classic Ecw moment right here. Oh, Tommy's got the pose. He's doing the raven pose. Trolling. Raven took out Bueller. The crowd, right? And this is the spot where many say is when the Ecw crowd accepted Tommy Dreamer. I think that happened a while ago. We talked about that. I think that happened when he took the lashing from Sandman. That's the moment when the Ecw crowd loves Sandman. But this also gets mentioned as being the time where the crowd really thought Tommy Dreamer became hardcore. I think that's more like revisionist history.

Yeah, because what about all the shit with Sandman?

Exactly. And I think that's a Paul pick.

This wide within the crowd.

I think that's a Paul Heyman thing because Paul Heyman was always trying to get Tommy Dreamer over. And I think this is a time where he realized that Tommy Dreamer finally did really get over. So they used this as the moment when it happened, but it was really taking the lashings from Sandman that the crowd was like, okay, this guy's badass. All right. But now here we go. The shooter. This is the big match shooter. This show. Hostile city showdown. Of all the matches on this show, this is the match that is most remembered and recognized as being a game changing match in US wrestling in 1995. Eddie Guerrero versus Dean Melinko for the first time in the United States. And here we are in April of 95, and we will see this match, eddie Guerrero, Dean Malinko, numerous times again in Ecw, but we will see it again on WCW Nitro at the end of 1995. And this is basically what gets them on the radar to be in WCW. Eddie Guerrero, dean Melinko. And here we are, Matt wrestling Guerrero. Eddie Guerrero, dean Malinko Malenko into a hammerlock. Look at his hammerlock reversals.

Well, we just watched Guerrero and hoopnoiro.

We saw Guerrero and Tuco scorpio.

And that match was phenomenal, which was fucking great. And this is better than that.

And this is supposed to be better than that. From what I've read, this is supposed to be the greatest match in Ecw history to this point. So let's watch it. How can you deny it? Melinko and Guerrero. We know what these guys can do. But what I'm interested in seeing is how this crowd is going to react to this.

Yeah, well, we're going to see how they evolve because they're pretty dead right now, right?

This crowd is dead right now. This crowd has been used to watching bullshit brawl matches all night. So let's see if they can settle down and watch some wrestling right now. It's kind of slow in terms of this audience.

Guerrero goes for Snap two. Plus, it is blocked.

Now, keep in mind, this is Eddie Guerrero is new to the USA. A lot of things he's going to do in the ring are going to be new to the audience. Things they have never seen.

Block the second time. Close line. Miss by Guerrero. Roll up by Role.

Wow.

At the same time.

Oh, I love that. I love the standoffs. They both impress each other and it's.

Like, hey, man, they're just so crisp. I love how methodical Dimalenco always is. He'll hit you with a good move, and then he'll just like, pace around you, stare at you.

He'll slow down. I'm going to set you up this spot right now, like this. Power bomb. But Eddie Guerrero turns a Powell bomb into an arm drag. Holy shit. Scissors. Hurricane Rana. Eddie backs out of it, though. Eddie Graham hits that scissors, but Malik goes back up. No drop kick. Wow, another standoff. Look at it. Look at the crowd sharing out. Fucking whoa. Holy shit. This is wrestling. This is wrestling.

It's not going to happen.

Is appropriate at this point. This is wrestling. And now back down on the mat. Wait, pulling back on the foot. I think someone in the crowd just said, this is boring. The crowd's chanting something.

Is this in order of what we just watched? So what they just saw? Yeah, this is following up the Tommy Dream match, right?

Yeah, the whole show is in order. All right, so somebody was saying, this is boring. And now the crowd is telling that preston, shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. So the crowd is fucking arguing with each other right now about this match.

Those fucking stops are nice.

Oh, yeah. But yeah, the action in the ring is still great, but the crowd is fucking fighting each other right now. Shut the fuck up. No, this is good. Watch it. Watch this fucking match.

This ain't extreme. Throw him out. Chance. That's a first. Yeah, they're telling I've never heard that.

Throw out the fucking asshole. That's turned over by Guerrero. And then just keep going. Here. Good. Matt. Wrestling going on in the ring. Eddie Grove, the scissors lock now with an ombar. Get a shooter. The Ice Man Cometh sign in the front row for Dean Malinko. This is only Eddie Guerrero's second match, and Dean Malinko has been around a lot longer, so the crowd is more familiar with Dean. They're going to fucking fall in love with Eddie. So far. Eddie Guerrero has one win against Tuco Scorpio, roman Knuckle and a test of strength. Dimelinko has a series of wins, but mostly tag team wrestling he's been doing with Chris Benoit.

Guerrero with the advantage, but a great bridge by Malinko.

Oh, nice bridge by Di Malinko. While the crowd is continuing to fuck with the jihad in the audience that's not happy with this match. Crowd is kind of taken away from a good match. Right now. Oh, nuragani. What the fuck is it called? The Samoa Joe move. But that's what it was.

I don't know.

Like a urigani. I'm fucking pronouncing it wrong, I know that.

But I don't think I know that move. I don't think I know what you're talking about.

It's like a side slam, basically. Some moan side slam.

I don't think this is better than the Tuko Scorpio match so far, but we'll see.

No, I don't think so yet either. And I think that has a lot to do with the crowd distracting me from paying attention to the match. But this is a slow style match. Back and forth.

Referee Jim Moloto checking to make sure it is not a joke. It is not.

I feel like once, I don't know, maybe they're still planning out the match, but it is kind of at a stalemate right now.

It is. And we got to see what kind of match this is going to be because it could be building up to something. All right, so Maliko is going to break the hold, smashing Eddie into the corner now, throwing some elbows in. So he's starting to get a little frustrated, getting a little rough with Eddie. Going for a double arm on the suplex. Pinfall only gets two. Nice under arm suplex. We're still working on the mat here. Lincoln has an arm lock.

Guerrero wisely, although in great pain, keeping his shoulders.

I think Guerrero is tight, man, that was funny. USA. I'm USA all the way So is.

He trying to get over as being American? I wonder if he was worried about his heritage.

Maybe? I'm Texan. I'm from Texas. El Paso. Mexican Heritage. But I'm a USA.

Look like he fucking legit hurt his knee.

Yeah. No, I did. It looked like it. Dimelinko drop kicked the knee. And now Eddie is either his knees hurt or this is part of the story. And Dimelinko is going to work the knee for the remainder of the match. Yeah, this is going to hurt. So, yeah, this is probably part of the story because he's immediately doing a move that works the knee. So he hit the drop kick.

Go. Fast move.

Yeah, this is awesome. So he hit the drop kick on the knee and now he's got a nice finisher. That also can be a pinfall attempt because Eddie's shoulders are down on the mat. It looked like he was going to go for the cloverleaf, but he went for something different that I don't even know what to call it's. Like a fucking pretzel.

Guerrero screaming out in pain.

All right, they're working in the middle. Maliko gives up the hold, and Maliko goes right for the knee again. All right, so JV, you're onto something with that with that drop kick? Yeah. So this is part of the story then. All right, so the story is Dean Melinko is going to work Eddie Guerrero's knee. Now Eddie's selling his knee and Dean is going to continue to work on it. Dean is a man of a thousand holds of his opponent. He's going to work that knee now, and that's why he is submission style.

He will pick a body part.

And he's grabbing Eddie. Eddie. Eddie gets to the ropes, though. He's got to break it. Oh, Dean being an asshole, continues to work the knee.

Well, that is the technical prowess of Dimelinko methodical is the iceman work on that knee. See, this ain't boring now because he's wrestling with, like, intent.

Right? There's a story. Yeah, there's something to follow and I like it. So far we know Eddie's hurt and Dimlinko is just attacking. And what we're hoping for is what you would be hoping for is an Eddie comeback eventually. Well, let's see. Maybe there's not going to be right now they're outside the ring and Dean LINKo is just going right after Eddie. Eddie got away and he's back in the ring. But Dean lengtho is right behind him. Eddie Greg gets a punch in. Lake grabs Eddie by the leg and tosses them down. Now he's working on the ankle.

Want to trade punches with Guerrero instead? Stuck to his well calculated game plan and refocused his attention on the knee and the leg of the television champion.

Fucking getting crazy. Oh, shit. He just whacked the back of his leg a few times. Back of Eddie's leg a few times and just snapped on a leg hold. And Eddie gro fought his way back to the rope to break that.

The shooter driving a pair of knees into that of Guerrero.

And Dean still going for that knee with some leg from knee drops, rather. Eddie Greg hasn't got much offense in at all in the last four minutes or so. That's nice. Oh, I love that knee.

Transitions into a stretch.

Eddie kicks files how soft Eddie is.

Considering how jacked he gets in WWE. Even in WCW, he's a little bit more physically fit, at least in appearance.

Yeah. Right now there's not much definition to Eddie's body. He's got the fluffy hair and the fluffy mustache.

And the fluffy teddies.

It looks like you'll work on your plumbing right now. Celtics win, 130 to 108. Throw that out there. Get out of knees.

Nice kicks. All right. Is he going to work his knee now, too?

Malinko is working on the knee, but Eddie's breaking out of it with some oh, no, Melinko turned it around, though. It looks like he's STF. He's got an STF on Eddie. Guerrero. Close to the ropes, though, so Eddie might get to those ropes. Let's see. Yeah. Eddie's Reaching. Eddie got the rope. Okay, eddie got the bottom. Rope is not breaking. All right. Maliko breaks Eddie's back up. The crowd seems attentive, but they're not really chanting much at this point. It's like they're kind of in awe. What's going to happen here?

Well, like you said, they just saw this big, hardcore fucking berserker death match. They're thinking, probably thinking they're going to get a lot more of that with the show. And now they're hitting them with really sound technical wrestling match.

Right? Something they have to pay attention to, which is good. Right?

Wrestling show should be all right.

Little mix. So Eddie was able to fight off Malinko there. And Eddie's going to go for a Powell bomb or a Powell driver. Nice power bomb. Into a pin. One, two. Only two. There Eddie's fighting back. He looks weak still. The crowd clapping for him. So it looks like they're into Eddie, more so than Dean. All right, Eddie's going to the top rope. He's got Malinko. He's on the second rope.

We have seen that before.

Yeah, but he's going to go for, like, a spinning DDT off the second rope. And he nails it. He hits it. Eddie hits the spinning DDT from the second rope. The crowd's chair and jumping. One, two. Only two again. Only two. And he covers them again. Malinko kicks out Eddie's relentless. He won't give up, Dean. Maliko won't fucking be down for him. He's up. Dean's holding his neck right now. Eddie grabs him, sets him up on the top rope. Looks like he's going to go for off the top rope. But Eddie is still selling that knee.

He can't go for the pinned up, right?

He can't capitalize and get that pinfall. His knees hurt. Only a two. Again, that story is Eddie's knees hurt, which is hindering him.

Is he going to repeat the move that Maliko did to him?

Oh, shit. How do you do this move when your knee hurts? I think this is the lasso from El Paso.

Really?

Is what I'll end up calling yeah, this is what he ends up calling it later. Blasso from El Paso. It's like a reverse Boston Crab as.

Well as the leg.

Oh, now an STF. All right, so these guys are exchanging hold. They're doing the same moves to each other during this match, as we have documented. Both men well traveled, just pretty damn badass.

Both men with so much wrestling knowledge.

Is that not a pin? Oh, never mind.

Yeah, they're on the stomach. Someone in the crowd's like, yeah. What are you Yan about this beer? I like the uppercut from Eddie. Oh, another one. Dim Maliko in the corner. Dimeligo kicks back, slams Eddie into the top turnbuckle. Ten count we go. 1234 spine buster. Only five.

Setting them up.

Eddie grabs them. Yeah, on the side of the section. Side of the top row. Pushes them off. But a little hurricane rana. And Eddie is out to the godrail Melinko's down the concrete.

Both men now on the outside.

John Finnegan jumps down and jumps back in. I got to be back in the ring. Eddie rolls back in. Malinko's on the outside, still for the maneuver. Come on, Molinko, get back in there. Like a man combination to put their opponent away.

What will it take?

Now, how we know this is a good match? We're not talking about any other bullshit right now.

I'm pretty focused on we're talking about this match.

Fucking Suplex from Molinko. Guerrero outside of the ring.

It's a nice reversal.

Yeah, that was a great reversal.

That was cool.

Goes from plunging. Eddie just walks away. And he just walked away. Now Eddie's on the top row.

That's some G shit right there.

That was awesome. Is Eddie going to hit a fucking spot on Demelinko right now, though? Body press. Oh, he goes for a body press, but Melinko tosses them to the ground. Now they're both down on the ground. As Joey Styles just said, both on the concrete floor. They're both down. All right, Malinko is the first to make a move. Back up. He's going to grab Eddie by the hair, look to be hurt badly. These guys have fucking been going for a while. JV back in the champion. And how fucking long is this?

They definitely that's a beautiful brain buster. Held him up in the air, let the brain rush the blood rush, and then snapped it down.

Come on, hook a leg. Get a fucking pinfall. What are you doing?

I mean, the guy could barely move.

Right? Lay down, go for the bed. Both competitors get a body bag.

Malenko trying to pick Guerrero up again. Guerrero blocking it with everything he has.

Is Malinko going for another one? Oh, reversal. Guerrero going for a brain buster. Guerrero with a brain buster.

Not as good as Team Melinko.

No, melinkos was better. This is awesome. This is awesome. All right. Guerrero setting up molenko for a frog splash. It's got to be a frog splash. Boom. Frog splash. One, two. What? Molinko kicks out. Molinko kicks out of the fucking frog splash. Now the crowd is loving it. One, two. Melinko kicks out again. Eddie's frustrated. Yeah, this is better than too cold. Guerrero.

I don't think it's better so far.

You don't think so?

No, I think that's good.

Like Malinko more than scorpio. Maybe that's why oh, what a northern lights. Northern light. Suplex with the bridge. Eddie kicks out.

We were inches away from crowding. Dean Malenko as a television champion once.

Again, I think this is where shit's going to stop to get hot back and forth. Now, consider this, Jamie, and we're talking historically about ecw. This is the first match between these guys in the USA. And this is probably one of the first matches of this style that will become the norm style that still exists today. So this is a groundbreaking match.

Historically, it's a great match.

Just want to point that out. Like, historically, since we're covering this, is that this is a game changer match. Wrestlers are going to try to do this style of match over and over again from this point. This is not happening anywhere else on TV.

On American TV.

Double on power bomb. And Malika was going to go for a cloverleaf. Then Eddie Gray went for a roll up. That looked like it was going to be the win, but it was only two count now. Both down on the mat again. Eddie and Dean down on the mat. I thought it was over there.

Taking a walk around the ropes. That was beautiful. Yeah, it feels like it's.

Picking up Frankenstein. One, two. Lincoln kicks out of another Frankenstein from Edigro. Look great. Bouncing off that second rope. Crowds chanting Eddie, which makes sense because Dean's been a heel the whole time. Eddie's got the fucking USA types on. It's easy to call him the baby face with the waist lock, but Malayko, I don't think either of them is I don't think Dean's really working as a heel at all. He's just wrestling.

I want to pick a heel.

I don't know.

It'd be hard for me to pick a heel.

I just think it's even. Two guys wrestling once again, had a back breaker there. And Dean will go kicked out of it. Eddie tries again. Eddie tried to put all his weight on that pinfall. And Dean still kicked out. All right, he's going to keep going at it. Now he's picking Dean up. Going to set him up for another Powell bomb.

No. What is this hell is this?

Fuck is this move.

Backslide?

Kind of like a backslide LINKo. Flips them, goes for two. Eddie back two.

That was awesome.

A reversal. Two from Dean. Teddy. Oh, my God. What an exchange of pinfall attempts. And the crowd is upstanding. Loving it.

Preservingly so. That was sick.

That was great. This is like fucking golf clap. Like, oh, yeah. You guys are fucking great.

Yeah.

In the crowd. Ecw chant. Oh, fuck. Inside cradle kicks out on two. Eddie goes right back at it. Body slam, rather. Eddie's going back now, watching Dean. Dean's right behind him. Eddie set up on the top rope. Dean is up on the second rope. The fuck is going on here? Oh, Eddie spins around, slams him down into the ring for a pinfall attempt. Only gets two. How the hell did he do that? Shit. This is the kind of match I need to pause, rewind and see what the hell happened. Again, some of these moves are too quick to call. Got a bill? What's going on?

Was there a time limit?

The crowd standing. Looks like we got a time limit draw.

I don't like that.

Slaughtered so long.

What do you say for the reason?

Time limit draw. 20 a 30 minutes draw. 30 minutes draw. Eddie Guerrero retains the TV title. So it's a TV title match. So 30 minutes time limit for a TV title match. Dimelingo is pissed. Dimelingo wants another shot at the title. Hey, this is their first match. The crowd loves it. Obviously, we don't get definitive finish. Nobody won, but they both. Looked great. And it looks like we're probably going to get a rematch between the two guys eventually. So that'll be something to look forward to, I guess. That kind of is a little disappointing. You want a definitive winner if this is going to go on to be.

A few I don't see how that was better than the Tuco Scorpio had some pretty amazing moves.

I don't know. Yeah, there was a lot more.

I felt like that the Tuco Scorpio match was a lot I think it.

Was a lot better. I think I'm on your side on that one, too, because there were a lot better high flying moves, and I like that. And they did a great job. Eddie and Tuko did a great job with that. This match, though, the story was Eddie's injured, so Eddie's not able to do what he usually would do against dimelinko. So it became more of a dimelinko match where it's matt, wrestling and reversals of hold and shit, which is good for that style. But, yeah, I think there was more excitement with the Eddie and Two cold match from the previous show. So, yeah, I would agree with you. But I think this is a great beginning of Eddie versus Dean, and the way this was as a finish, a draw, it just means we're going to see more of it. So it'd be interesting to see how the matches progress.

I'm looking forward to seeing those style of matches, though. For sure.

Yeah. All right.

This should be a good one.

Look at Hewell.

That's him.

You still have it on? I paused. Oh, that's right.

We still stop at 102 seconds.

Yeah, we're going to stop, take a little break, and then continue on with the second half of Hostile City Showdown. But before we do that, what we usually do in our supercar shows, just run down and like to see what JV thinks for star ratings for matches as compared to the wrestling observer. And I don't even know if the Wrestling Observer ratings are from Dave Meltzer or just people that wrote into them, but we'll go with what was in the observer. JV. The first match, Mikey Whipwreck versus Stevie Richards. What do you give it, one out of five stars or zero out of five stars? What do you give it?

Two stars.

Two stars. You're right on that's. What I got two stars.

Okay.

Two stars. All right. Second match, and we didn't see much of the match because it was cut, and we only get to see the finish, really was Subo Gingen the Japanese or one New Jersey boy.

Stardust.

Yes. Stardust versus Tony Stetson. You give it one star and it got one star, man, you're fucking undefeated at this point. All right, the Ecw viewers choice barbed wire match, ian Rotten defeating Axel Rotten. You're not going to get this right.

Which I was going to say four stars.

You give it four stars, or are you guessing four stars?

I'm guessing four stars.

Okay. I want to know what you think, though, too.

I think I would give that one four stars.

Okay. All right.

I mean, considering the time period.

Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. All right. So we got three and a quarter star. Three and a quarter star. All right. So you're close there. Raven versus Tommy Dreamer.

I mean, I'd like I like that one better. I take back my rotten score. I'm going to make that one three and a half. This one's four stars.

Four stars. Okay. It got three stars.

Okay.

Now the big match we just watched, Eddie versus Dean, four stars. Four stars. They gave four and three quarter stars. So nearly five star match.

Damn.

We just talked about how we liked Eddie versus Too Cold better than this. I think they're both four star level matches. I would say that's a four star match. Eddie versus Dean and get four and a half to two cold in Eddie. That's what I would give. All right. So that's what the first half of Hostile City Showdown had for us. And we got four more matches coming up in the second half. We're going to take a little break. We got a break song. And this song is requested by Rick Bibi. He requested this like a month ago. And he said, oh, this song came out in June of 95. I just want to get it in now. And I figured, hey, fuck it. We'll just fucking use it now.

Yeah, why not?

All right. It's not too long off. This is April 95.

Running low on ideas anyway, right?

And the song was released in June. But the song had been played by the band. It's you two. They've been singing a song since 1993. They just didn't release it mainstream until June of 95. So fuck it. It's Hold Me, Kiss Me, Thrill Me from the Batman Forever soundtrack. It's a fucking badass song. It's underrated YouTube song. And they just kind of like, in the past, within the past five, six years or whatever, kind of taken a liking to it again and started to play it on tour again. And they never did for years. And hell of a song. It's about heroes coming up and rising up and cool ass song. Cool ass video, too. I remember this video being released in 1995. And I loved it because there was a lot of clips from Batman Forever.

Exactly.

And it was a lot of clips where they had footage of two faced, like, here we go. Like stupid little clips and the Riddler in his little apartment as a little weirdo and then becoming the Riddler and all that bullshit. I was like, oh, shit, this is so cool. You get so many clips from the movie and hell of a song. Rick BB. Great request. We'll play it now. Batman Forever soundtrack was released on June 5, 1995. And I was totally into that shit at the time. 1995, I was in I think I was in 6th grade or 7th grade. And one thing I remember about the lead up to Batman Forever was getting the Glass Cups. You remember the glass? I'll have them, yeah.

My mom repackaged them as a Christmas gift for me, like, three or four years ago.

Really?

Yeah, she found them and she repackaged them. It was pretty cool.

Did you have all of them?

All of them?

Yes. Was there four?

I'd have to look.

I know it had to be, like five, right? Because it was Batman.

It was Batman. Riddler.

Riddler.

Robin.

Robin. No, there's no background.

No background? No.

How was that for right?

The toothpaced one was my favorite because the handle was like the coins.

Oh, yeah, I still have those.

I still have them.

I had the Riddler, which was the question mark is the handle. And it was like a little roundish one. The Batman one was more of like a half. It was like the taller one, but not that tall. Anyway, I had the Batman, Riddler and Robin. I didn't have two Face, though. Fuck, I wish I had that two face one.

That was the best one, in my opinion.

Yeah, that was cool. Shit. All right, so we're going to take our break. Take a listen to you two holding me. Kiss me, drill me. Then we'll be back with the second half of Hostile City Showdown. You know how you just know what you got in the headlight all stretch your dark like your sister living like it must be hard. You you can shout, you don't have to go back home late. You don't know just know you want to, but in yourself you were like, just close the cry. Holy can't sleep you. But if you alive, we are crucifix down. All right, we're back now for the second half of Ecw hostile city showdown 95. And we got four more matches. And what we have coming up is the Ecw world heavyweight championship match. Shane Douglas versus the Sandman. And then we have the Ecw World Tag Team championship match. Public enemy versus the pit bulls. Got ron Simmons versus 911. And then in the main event, we got Cactus Jack versus Terry Funk. So that's what we have coming up here. Let's get into it. If you're going to watch along with us, continue watching along on the BTC Drive Hostile City Showdown. JV and I are going to start off at 1 hour, two minutes and 49 seconds. If you get yourself set up there, you should see the Sandman holding up his Kendall stick or his Singapore cane. And some admiring fans in the front row checking him out, smoke his cigarette. So if you're there, JV, you're all set up, right? Yes. All right. So as always, I'll give the countdown. Three down to one. I'll say play when I say play, we'll get started. All right, here we go. Three, two, one, play.

Here we go.

All right. Yeah. He's got his Metallica playing and still got his American pants on. Rex Quando style. You don't want to take a roundhouse kick with one of these bad boys on. Oh, he's even got a chair set up. He's going to stand right in the fucking front. So Sandman here is baby face, right? Who the fuck knows in Ecw who's Baby Face and who's a heel? I don't even think it matters. Does it really matter, JV?

No, I feel like it doesn't matter here. Assholes. Want us to root for assholes?

Let him, right? If you think he's an asshole today, he's a heel. If you like him, he's a baby face. Oh, yeah. Perfect strangers. Shane Douglas my man, and he's got woman by his side. Now that's my Shane Douglas impersonation. Remember my name as a song. Love this song. I would play if if I was a producer like you are. I would just put this song on every episode. I can. Shane Douglas has a podcast or he had a podcast for a while within the past couple of years. This was his opening music. It was mixed in badass. Awesome. I love this thing. I love this song. Band's fucking great. Daniel, remember.

This should be a brutal match.

Now, JV, we did see this match last episode.

We had aii saw this already.

Yeah, we saw this already.

I already forgot who wins.

That's good. But we saw back to back, it was three way dance. It was Shane Douglas versus Sandman. And that's when woman turned on sandman. So now we're here at Hostile City showdown. Woman's now with Shane Douglas. And it's the Reno.

I remember now.

Yeah.

We can spoil it, right?

No, we don't have to. Because some people might be just checking this episode out because it's Hostile City Showdown focused on you know what I mean? But for our loyal listeners, you know what happens. But for people that maybe just want to check out the super shows, we'll keep our mouth shut for a little bit. I know you're watching me from Dunyan. Yum, yum. Ya. I was kind of right. You hear it? I know you all want. Okay. Anyway, I don't want to be annoying because people are actually hearing that in their headphones right now.

Yeah, I hear it. And it was funny the first couple of times.

I only did it twice. Fuck off. Yeah, so it's funny both times then. All right, I can't do it a third time. Third time, strike out.

It was less funny the second time.

Still funny. Everything's less funny the second time. That's why I'm self deprecating. I know it wasn't funny anymore, so I have to bring it up myself so I don't feel bad. All right, so we got Shane Douglas. He's in the corner. He's got one by his side. Big time match. Here Sandman standing in the middle of the ring with his Kendall stick, acting like it's his big hot boner. This is a big time match. There it is. And keep in mind, here's a little reminder to everybody. Shane Douglas won the Ecw championship, the Eastern Championship, wrestling heavyweight title in March 1994 at Ultimate Jeopardy. This is 13 months later. Shane Douglas has been the champion since March 94. This is April 15 over a year. Being champion in August of 94, that's when he declared himself the Extreme Champion. So he's only been the extreme championship wrestling heavyweight championships. August. But really, he's been the championship since March of 94.

Indefinitely, the man.

Indefinitely be the man. Best promos. Yes, for a year, with the exception of Cactus Jack coming in and fucking being the man, terry Funk here and there. Other than that, Shane Douglas been carrying this company as the man. Now here he is defending this championship against this drunkard Sandman Rex Kwondo. Shot in Rex.

Don't know, wonder if the guy that created that from the movie must have to be a wrestling fan.

Yeah, anybody that creates a movie called Napoleon Dynamite, that's a wrestling fan.

Thus far, the matchup is all Shane Douglas.

I don't know how much good wrestling we're going to get here other than Shane Douglas trying to do his thing. Well, we got a nice suplex from Shane to Sandman.

Well, Sam man will get some entertaining. He's entertaining bullshit in.

Yeah, he'll get his chair shots and.

Cane shots and whatnot, bleeding from the scar tissue on his forehead.

Yeah, exactly. Got a roster firing dude in the front row there. The fuck did he come from?

Douglas the wrestler.

Those are people you see in a movie. Douglas possibly not in real life. Like those Rastafarian dudes, like white dudes with dreadlocks.

Douglas yeah, it's rare to see. Yeah, they're definitely like, come on, real life.

That's how you are.

It's not common. I've seen them. Douglas fully realizes it's the same reaction.

Really? That's real. All right. Shane goes for another suplex and just dropped Sam in on the top rope. Shane Douglas has got to be thinking, can I wrestle? Like, how come I can't wrestle Eddie Guerrero? How come I can't wrestle Tuko Scorpio? Like, why the fuck do I got to wrestle Sandman Terry Funk? It's a good point, Cactus Jack. Can I wrestle wrestlers if I didn't want to? No. Maybe out it. Maybe Paulie just wanted those wrestles to be like a different level, you know what I mean? Not going for the world title. Yeah.

Cover one. Only woman is loving it, and she.

Is now in the possession of the Sandman. Shane's totally in control of this match at this point. Now Sandman's fighting back with his high top sneakers, tosses Shane out of the ring. It's funny we haven't mentioned this, but the world title, the heavyweight title is never the main event on these shows. Yeah.

That's weird.

It is never there is always like there's always a special match that is the main attraction. Yes. Which is kind of cool. Like the main event is something different, something special that you don't see usually. So it's not always every month. It's, oh, Shane Douglas in the main event in this because he's the champion. It's whatever special going on at the time is the main event. I kind of like that.

I like it, too. I mean, the belt sells itself, right. You can have the other attraction. You know there's going to be a title match that's an attraction.

Right. What's the main attraction going on other than the world title? Yeah. Sometimes the world title might be the best thing, but not always.

Right? And here's the thing. They don't treat the world title as the best thing 100% of the time. So the title shouldn't be the headline or attraction of an event 100% of the time.

Right? Yeah. And they did a great job with that. I think that would be a great thing for AEW to do.

Yeah.

Well.

Even their booking I like because they'll put on the match, you want to see which is the attraction. Sometimes it's not the belt and they'll start the show off with it, or it's like the second or third match of the night. That's good.

No, that is a good move, too, because you can do that and then you can build throughout the show and talk more about what happened. And it could lead to what's going to be on next week. Instead of ending the show and be like, we got to go. We'll see what happens next week. If you start the show with it, you can be like, all right, let's build this up more throughout the show. We got some good action, though. And go fucking topay from Shane Douglas outside of the ring onto Sandman. But the referee should be focusing on the champion. Was the referee that's what the referee was down about? No, that was fucking thousand striped pants. Sandman is getting some offense in. I don't know. It's kind of a miracle. How he's doing it?

I got to grieve you there.

Douglas rolled back in.

Get this man a beer.

Yeah. He needs a bear. It's like Popeye. Give him his fucking spinach. They get some extra power. Now. What I don't like is you have Woman on the outside. She has the Singapore cane she apparently took from Sandman. That's sandman's weapon. So Sandman is without his weapon because Woman took it. The woman is now aligned with Shane Douglas, but she's already turned on in the past. Multiple times. Douglas whipped in and hard Route 94. But you know, men, they always just fall for the woman again. Yes.

Scoop and a slam by the Sandman.

Oh, yeah. You sucked my dick good that time. I'll go back to you. Yeah. Another girl can do the same exact thing and you won't know the difference.

No.

Leg drop off the top rope by Sandman. And he misses, as he should. Look like he fucking split his pants. But you couldn't tell with these gear on.

Going for the gut. That's one way to get the wind out of Shane.

Yeah, shots to the gun, that sucked. And that's not Shane Douglas's fault. Shane Douglas went for a back breaker, but he couldn't lift Sandman up because Sandman couldn't help lift them up. Yeah, I'm standing. Drop kicking your ass into the corner right now. Now Shane's working on Sandman in the corner.

Tough. The guy to wrestle with. It's very limited.

Sandman is the shittiest wrestler that we've watched for the past two years. Probably guaranteed Douglas chicken. He's just a gimmick, that's all he is. And I don't know if you think he's that good of a gimmick.

All character.

Yeah, that's right. All right, that was pretty shitty. So we got the weak cane shot from Woman to Shane. Shane had a crossface chicken wing on Sandman. Woman hit Shane in the back of the leg. So shane Fell. He fell on his back. So his shoulders are down. Sandman lands on top of Shane. One, two, three. Shane loses the title after 13 months to Sandman. And Woman was on Sandman's side the whole time. Women tricked Shane Douglas at three way dance to make him think she was on his side the whole time. It's a trap to fool him. For him to take her on his side for this match only for her to screw him and take the title away. Shane is pissed. He's throwing tables around. We talked about this on the last episode, but if you didn't check out the last episode shane Douglas here now grabs a T shirt from a fan in the audience. And it's a Monday night raw T shirt. This is April of 95, Shane. Wern WWF. Look at the fans throwing shit. They're like, waving bye bye. Bye bye. How do they turn on the fucking guy that made this company? Just like that?

Joined Vince.

That's how. All right, let's fucking hear Shane. Shane grabbed the mic. Let's hear what he has to say again.

Wrestle.

I'm gonna go somewhere where I can wrestle and you can all kiss my ass. It's funny, like, because this is the best place where you can wrestle. Because, like we said, there's Tuko Scorpio, Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit going to WWF. Yeah, you're not going to wrestle much, but what's the difference here? He has to fucking fight Sandman. He can't wrestle here either. Yeah, as a champion.

At least he's got some safety, right?

At least he can go wrestle trained wrestlers and make real money.

Yeah, that he's fucking risk ruining his whole career.

Right? Like, Shane Douglas is a pro wrestler. Sandman's a fucking bullshit fucked drunk wrestler. And here we go. We got the Nana NA bullshit going on. This guy's smoking a cigarette in the middle of and can't even stand up. Ecw Champion.

This is the last time. He's not leaving yet. Still a couple of months away, right?

He's not gone yet. Well, this is the beginning of him going. And here we go. This is the first person to win the Ecw Extreme Ecw Championship. Shane Douglas proclaimed himself the Extreme Championship Wrestler wrestling champion after he threw down the NWA title. But now Sandman is the first to ever win it. So that's a historic moment there, Bcw. And now we move on to the tag team championship match. We got public enemy coming out. We got the fucking hands going back and forth. We got the lyrical gangsters out there. They got their titles on backwards. Johnny Grunge got his belt on backwards like he's crisscross. And they're going up against the pit bulls. Pitbull number one and two. Bang, bang, bang.

I don't know the lyrics of the song. I just say sounds.

Yeah, but I'll be like.

Keep living like that.

I'm a little girl gangster.

We've seen this, too, right?

No, I think we saw clips. Yeah, we saw some clips. I think we didn't see the whole match, though. All right. And even this match, it looks like it's clipped because we didn't see any entrance for the pit bulls, and we just get to random spots on top of the match. But the interesting thing here is this match is starting off like a regular tag team match. There's wrestlers in the corner waiting for tags. They're not just in there doing whatever the fuck they want, like, normally going through tables and bullshit. That's pretty interesting. We got a tag team match here, JV. How long do you think that's going to last? What, like a legit style tag team match? Like it looks right now, two and a half minutes. All right. Two and a half minutes. All right, so we're at 1 hour, 21 40. We'll go by 123. It'll be a shit show. Let me keep an eye on it. I have a feeling you're going to be right. Davy.

Pitbull goes downstairs on Rocco Rock.

All right, so we got pitbull number one, Rocco Rock in the ring, going back and forth. Oh, shoulder block by pitbull number one. Now he's showing off to the crowd. Yeah, look at me. I did a shoulder block. I wrestled.

It was a nice shoulder block, though. It was textbook.

Yeah. We got to give Gary Wolf his props. Hey, follower of that extreme cast, Gary Wolf.

What are they saying?

Boy toy? Pitbull number one just closed line the fuck out of Rock and Rock out of the ring. Okay, we're at almost 123. Let's see if it turns into a shit show within the next 10 seconds. All right, so we got a table being set up outside the ring. That's the beginning of a shit show. Pitbull number two, body slams, rock or Rock we're at 123. Let's see if JV is right with this match becoming a shit show.

Rock shot it again.

All right. Gorilla Press Rock or Rock through a table. JV, you spot on. You called it.

I'm a little scared.

I got that. You are right on. Only took two minutes until like fuck that regular tag team rules. We're throwing a guy through a table, johnny grunges defending his brother. Rock a rock. And going right after the pit bulls, kicking them in the nuts. Back and forth punches, back and forth. Double naganaka. Oh, it didn't matter to the pit bulls. They nailed a double naganaka to the single head of Johnny Grunge. And he is down.

Double nagging knocker. That's funny.

Why the fuck is Stevie Richards outside still like what?

Stone?

He's their fucking manager, too. What happened to Jason? Where's Jason Knight? Bullshit. I want Jason Knight with the pit bulls. Stevie Richards. Double suplex. Crunch kicking out at two. All right, so it looks like we're back to a semi wrestling tag team match. Rocco is back in. Johnny just got tossed out. So I guess Rocco is now the legal man because he's in the ring. That doesn't matter. It doesn't matter who the legal man is as long as somebody's in the ring. Wrestling. Yeah, that's how wrestling works. Whoever gets in the ring is legal. If you leave the ring, you're not legal anymore. Johnny Grunge was a legal man. He got tossed out of the ring. Now he's on the apron. Amateur.

Johnny Rudd.

All right, so they're hyping the crowd up. Rocco is going to come back against pitbull number one, Gary Wolf. And another shoulder block that time. Not as good as the first one, JV, right? I don't think so.

Screaming in the front row.

Which guy?

Like cowboy hat. That guy.

Oh, hat guy.

He just randomly gets up and is like he almost looks like a video game character. He just has a job and he does it.

He's programmed to do that. All right, we got Gary Durant, pit bull number two, going for a power slam like he's warlord. Oh, shit. It was a power slam, but it looked like he's just slamming him on his head because he sucks. That was brutal, man. Check that out. Go back, guys. That's 1 hour, 25 minutes and 58 seconds. Check that out. Slammed Rock a rock on his head. This feud is annoying, too, because public enemies already beat the pit bulls in the past. Why the pit bulls get to have.

Another title shot because there's no other legit tag team.

That's probably exactly what it is.

A little limited.

There no tag teams to face the public enemy, so we got to go pit bulls again. The fact the pit bulls haven't even been the champions yet. The pit bulls should be the champions at some point as a heel.

They haven't had the titles yet.

No, they've never won the titles yet. They should be the champions. You should have public enemy chasing them. The Pit Bulls, I'm pretty sure, will be champions at some point soon. But another team coming in, JV, which is going to shake things up, will be champions also. That'll change this whole tag team division along with Public Enemy being there is the gangsters, new Jack and Mustafa until they come in soon, take Death Mash.

To another level.

And then we get to hear some fucking Snoop Dogg. Yes, murder was the case that they gave me. I think that sound pretty good.

Not bad.

It's Gaga. They call me Gaga.

I was actually listening to the Snoop Doggs. He's like a head executive at Def Jam Records. He released a new album today.

And.

It'S like his first venture as like, this creative executive.

Oh, really?

Yeah, and it's got, like, some new music from him and then like, newer artists on it. It's pretty cool. Like 20 tracks.

Where'D you listen to it.

YouTube music.

Okay.

It's called algorithm.

The name of the algorithm?

Yeah.

Rocco Rock, johnny Grunge.

Holy shit. Johnny Grunge. Just fucking I don't know if that did anything, but it looked funny just tapping the shit out of the zebra hats.

The hats those guys had on.

I didn't see the hat.

You'll see like, Zubar style hat.

Pit Bull number two is busted open. So is Johnny Grunge. Now I'm looking for these zubaz hats. Okay, I see the hat. Honey is a name for those hats. Yeah, it's basically Zubaz style hat. But the NFL had those style hats for a while. I remember more specifically, I remember, like, the Raiders hat and the Bengals hat. That style. We had like, the white and the orange for the Bengals. Obviously, the silver and the black for the Raiders. And it would just say, like, Los Angeles Raiders, but then have that style Zubaz shit across the hat. You remember. I'm talking about the Dolphins one, too.

I'm looking them up right now. They were called, like, wave hats or something, right?

I think they were from New Era, maybe that was what they were called. But I think those were early New Era hats before they were even like, no shit popular. I could be wrong.

Here we go. Loud ecw champ. They like what they're seeing.

They love it.

We got cops outside.

This match is going on for a fucking while and there's basically nothing happening other than Eddie Guerrero Di Malinko. This has just been a brawl show. Like, let's fight with weapons and fight outside the ring. Go in the crowd. And I guess that's what the thousand people in attendance wanted for the most part. Think capacity is 1200 at this point. Oh, fucking we got some bullshit going on the front row. Rocco Rock and Gary Wolf.

That was the most pussy hit I've ever seen.

Yeah, all these shots with top of the trash can lid are pussy. Shots. All right, pitbull tool set up on the table. grunges just pounding away on him. Looks like he's going to go to the top and hit the finisher. Going to the second rope, not top. Going for a vader bomb. Yeah. So whatever.

A plus. Celebration. That was cool. Decent move. Way better.

Beta bomb. I don't know what they call it themselves, but smash. Pitbull number two through the table. Crowd loves it. Should have went for a pinfall there. Now he just takes them. Tosses him out of the out of the ring. Now Grunge is going after pitbull number two. Rocco is chasing Stevie riches around the ring. And Rocco grabs Stevie and throws them over the guardrail. No, Johnny grabbed them. Now Rocco is beating Stevie with the fucking top of the trash can. Trash lid, rather pile driver. Pitbull number two to Johnny Grunge. On the outside of the ring, we got Stevie and Rocco fighting in the crowd. This is a fuck show.

One going to the aid of his manager.

There's more fighting in the crowd. Stevie Rich is just bouncing around. JV, ideally, what would you want to happen in this match as a finish?

I don't know, dude.

I don't know.

They go anywhere with it?

Yeah, I'm kind of the same. Dumb question. Do you want a tough question? Yeah, I'm kind of the same thought. Who's going to win? Who's going to be the champion?

Why? I'm not a Booker.

Why would anybody become the champion? What are we building to don't know. This feud has already been going on for a while. Why are we going to keep dragging this feud out? And you said it perfectly, there's nobody else out there for them to fight. They should just fucking put Ian and Axeron back together and be a tag team.

They'll probably do a draw, but I think another table move would be a good fit. I mean, these guys fucking the Crimson is wild.

What would have been good for this match is to make it a table match. First fucking people through a table lose. I hate that.

Yeah. Table matches to just mean you can use tables. They're legal. Not if you put a guy through a table. They win. No, I hate that. I hate those. I hate those. Like, you hit a guy with a chair, you in first. I don't like that shit.

No, I think it builds a suspense, like, oh, shit, he went through the table.

I think Dudley boys ruin that for everybody.

Yeah, well, once you do something over and over again, it's like you can't make it that simple. That's the first through a table.

We've seen those, too. And it's like, I remember Kane was in one one time, and he legit, like, fell into the table and they were like, you lost.

Right? Yeah. It can be tough after it's been done.

What the fuck?

Here, maybe have, like, a dog collar match. Or something with these guys. All right? This is their finisher. This is pit bull's finisher right here.

Slow motion.

That sucked. Hey. What's?

Fucking I would have been cool with the victory there.

That should have been the victory, but pit bull number one was, like, looking like he didn't know what was going on. He's right. There clothesline. All right, things look sloppy. Things are sloppy at this point.

What is going on here?

Rocco should have had the win with that.

Guys are exhausted.

Yeah. Everybody looks tight as fuck. Johnny Gun.

Johnny Gun than everybody in the building.

Fill the block from pitbull number one.

Set his fifth one.

Yeah. No shit. That's all he does.

It's fucking Lawrence Taylor.

All right, johnny Garn's got a pit bull chain. Knocks Durant pitbull number two out of the ring. Nails Wolf. All right, looks like they're going to set up for their finisher. Johnny Grunge. Here's the reverse. DDT now they're going for the drive by. He misses. Rocco misses. Somebody going to pin Rocco. Rocco while he just missed a fucking move. What's going on.

Mr. Super Bob Public Enemy?

Hey, JV. This match fell apart.

This is pathetic. This is like watching children.

Oh, my God. Rock or rock roll?

Can you finish the match?

Oh, my God. That was horrible. Tough to describe in words, but rock or rock? Missed a drive by and sat around for a while and then rolled up pipple number one, like, 30 seconds later. Got the wins. Are acting like they can't believe why they lost. Stevie Richards isn't there. Bitching. Like, we didn't even know you were their fucking manager. What the fuck are you doing in there? Holy shit. That was too long. Okay, that's over with. All right, so now we're joining a match in progress. It looks like it's 911 versus Ron Simmons.

There was a little bit of build to this one.

Yeah, there was build to this, because on the last show, Ron Simmons beat the fuck out of 911. The first person to beat the fuck out of 911. So now we got the match that was not a choke slam from the top rope. What the fuck was that? Good thing this match was fucking cut short, because that sucked dick. Ron Simmons had 911 on the top rope, and then they just tried to tell us that there was a choke slam from 911 to Ron Simmons off the top rope, and 911 just pinned them that the man was horrible. But, yes. Now it's time for the main event, and we get Terry Funk head into the ring. And also, a couple of episodes back, we were wondering what this entrance music was. And Sean Malt said, tweeted out to us and let us know. This was Emerson Lake and Palmer fanfare for the common man. And this is the classic song. You probably heard this in sporting events. Yes, in sporting video highlights and shit.

It's cool. When you can learn the name of an iconic song you've heard, like your whole life, right?

This is like from NFL films and shit, that kind of thing. Or it's like from, I don't know, British golf or something. Like from the 80s. Something we definitely heard in sports. So that's what it was. Terry Funk came out to it, and we're going to play that at the end of the show. That's going to be our outro music. And now we got Cactus Jack head into the ring with Born to be Wild.

Is Terry Funk talking shit the whole time, too?

Yes, Terry Funk's talking shit. The cactus. Jack Terry Funk is back after a while. It's been a few months since he's been around, and the promos building up to this match have been fucking amazing.

Cactus with a flaming branding iron.

Yeah. And we had Terry Funk with his branding iron recently. We got to watch out for that. The back of Terry Funk shirt says, cactus, my ass.

Good idea. But there's one full thing wrong with this picture. It's the ring, you see. I don't want here 102, come out here.

All right. Cactus Jack is challenging Terry Funk to go into the crowd to fight him, not in the ring. If Terry accepts the challenge.

What's the crowd? I'm confused. Oh, there. It's Cactus Jack. All right, I see him now.

Yeah. Cactus down. Terry Funk fight me in the crowd. Let's go.

No, but I lost them for a second. Getting through the crowd.

Over here.

Love how Terry Funk shits on Cactus Jack like he's some kind of idiot.

There's the bell.

Bell rings. What's Terry Funk going to do? What's Cactus going to do? Hostile city showdown, the main event. Here we go. Cactus, my ass. Harry Funk with his striped tights.

The cops got a headset on.

Yeah. What the fuck's? The cop got a headset on. Who's he listening to? Joey Styles on the mic.

Here comes Cactus right after him.

All right, so they go into the crowd via the hard cam, which is from the eagles nest. And they fight right to the Eagles Nest. They're at the top of the back of the bleachers.

Okay. Crawling.

Yeah, they're both crawling to the area where everyone fights, where there's always a table set up.

Cactus Jack.

Holy shit. What? A chair shot from Terry Funk to cactus. Three chair shots in a row, right to the back. God damn. People throwing shit at them. Hey. Climbing up to the eagles nest position.

I'm not getting anywhere near this. Face first, cactus.

Holy shit. Terry Fungus throwing chairs at Cactus Jack's head dude in the back.

Seeing the crowd like that.

Oh, yeah.

Angle perspective.

Yeah, it's nice. They're all looking up too, like attentive yeah, like, oh, what's happening? All right, Terry Funk just laid down on the on the table. He's laying down like he's about to get a massage, though. He's relaxing. Got his arms behind his head. Oh, what? Cactus jag goes for elbow drop. But there's obviously nobody on the fucking table. You see that, JV? There was nobody there.

I feel like I've seen him do that before in like WWF.

Terry Funk wasn't even a second. Wasn't even there for a second. It's not like he just rolled out as Jack was midair, Terry Funk was already off. And Cactus jumps and goes right through the table. What the fuck? But now Cactus is making his way back down the bleachers. And Terry Funk is following him with the steel chair. Cactus at the garde with an open chair. Open chair shot to the head. Holy fuck. Jack flips over more chair shots. Another chair shot. Terry Funk going crazy with these chair shots. Jack. Cactus fighting back. He's got the looks like in a cookie sheet. Got a cookie sheet beating the fuck out of Terry frying pan.

Go get that fucking Fisher Price frying pan.

Hey, we got somebody holding up like caricatures of Terry Funkin.

That's way ahead of its time.

That's awesome. There's a little like Terry Funk caricature and a cactus jack on. They look like little puppets. Yeah, that's badass. They look fucking well done. That's awesome. I like it. All right. So it's still fighting surround ringside area. Terry Funk just tossed Cactus back into the ring. And Terry's going to grab a table and toss that into the rink.

Having a hard time.

There it is. Yeah, he's having a hard time because the legs are already open. Just slide it in.

I mean, he's tall, but that's high. Top pro.

All right. Targets in a ring. And Cactus takes a few shots at him with his forearm. Throws them into the table. Doesn't break it, but just tosses them.

Into.

Set it up.

You take it.

So right now Cactus Jack just set up the table into the corner. Let's see if that rings true. Is Cactus Jack going to break the table? Terry Funk just got bumped into it. We'll see what happens with that table in due time. Cactus Jack is going behind the table onto the second rope. Now Terry Funk is just Terry Funk, just like JV said, suplex the table onto Cactus shack and it bounced out of the ring. Probably hit somebody in the fucking front row. Cactus shack limping around. Little drop kick. Terry Funk outside of the ring. We got somebody with a fucking top of a toilet bowl. Did you see that? There's a toilet lid hanging around there. Oh, there it is. Cactus grabbed it. He puts the toilet lid around Terry Funk's neck, choking him out with the shitter. Boom. Shot to the head.

Hammering. Funk, I believe, is wearing a toilet seat. Think of being in the toilet right now. I bet Terry Funk wishes he was back in WCW.

All right. Joey Style saying Terry Funk wishes he's back in WCW. Or Cactus Jack wishes he back in WCW These toilet lids into a chair paycheck is probably a little better, but more freedom of expression in Ecw.

Oh, yeah.

Terry Funk just nailed Cactus. Cactus was about to go to second rope.

Unforgiven on that floor.

Wow. Terry Funk. Just bodies. Flame. Cactus jack onto the fucking cement as Cactus was going on to the second rope. They're both down now. Is both these guys taking a toll on it? This is a good match, JV. Of all the hardcore type matches we've won, I like it dropped this night. I think this is one of the better ones, definitely. It's more subtle, too. It's not so crazy like Ian and Axel or even Raven versus Tommy Dreamer. And it's Terry Funk. We don't see him a whole lot. He comes and he shows up. He performs. Where they going? Cactus has taken Terry Funk all the way back to the main entrance. They're fighting in the open area. Cactus just grabbed the trash barrel.

Garbage pail.

Plastic out. Garbage pail. Probably nothing in it. Let's see if anything falls out.

Looks like there's nothing in it.

Yeah, there's some shit in it. We got some shit in there.

Oh, fucking nail trash helped make that look so much cooler.

Yeah, because the ship flies out of it. Bang, bang. Oh, Terry Funk has a beer bottle. Three shots on the head. Oh, my God. Look at that. It's a glass beer bottle. And it didn't break on his head three times. That hurt like a motherfucker.

I will say, so far, this is the best card we've covered.

You think it's the best one?

I think it has to be.

I think that's what we said about the last one. Return of the Funker supercard Nine upgraded. And yeah, it has to do with this match in Eddie Guerrero versus Dean Lenko. I think I think this is one of the game changing super shows for Ecw. When you look at the card, it really is what Ecw becomes. The main wrestlers title changes. Sandman becomes a champ. Oh, fuck, man. He just brutally cut him with glass.

He's hit it all right. I couldn't tell.

He's cutting him with the fucking the glass beer bottle.

Bottle.

Yeah. Fuck. You doing, like, scarring them up? I don't know how I got these scars. Fuck. Kicked out ahead. This is brutal. The crowd is loving it. Yeah, funk just smacking back and forth, back and forth. Cactus jack as he lays on the bottom rope. Fucking Terry Funk just playing with the crowd. What's he going to say? What do you say? Give him a nose job?

Think so.

Terry Funk talking shit.

The audio is low when they get the mic right.

Oh, fuck. Mikey. Whipwreck. See you later. Mikey's trying to save his buddy, gets tossed the fuck out of the ring. Terry Funk is now fucking up. Mikey toss him over the top, over the guardrail. Now we got Hack Myers. Terry funk's fucking up. Hack Myers throws him over the goderail Terry Funk's like fucking Hulk Hogan right now, beating everybody up. He's unstoppable Terry Funk. All right. Now he's going back after Cactus with the steel chair. Oh, working that leg. Slamming that chair into the leg. What the fuck is going to happen here?

He's dragging them. Figure four.

Dewey is next. Who's Dewey? Dewey is Cactus Jack's three year old son. Oh, wow. Dewey next. That's bullshit. And there's another sign. I don't know if it's on this show, but it's sign that says Cane Dewey. And that's going to lead to a big promo in a few months where Cactus Jack uses that as motivation to help him turn heel against the Ecw audience. So that sign is part of this build up to him turning against Ecw before he becomes mankind when he goes to WWF. Oh, all right. Shit. We had a bell just before that. Oh, shit. Yes. Sandman came in. Sandman came in and whacked Cactus Jack but missed. He went to go hit Cactus Jack. Hit Terry Funk. The bell rang. And then Cactus Jack covered Terry Funk and got the one, two, three. And then another bell rang.

So what's he win by here?

So I don't know. Does he win? Was it a DQ? Or does he end up winning? The bell keeps ringing. There's no announcement at this point. But we have salmon in here pouring beer on Cactus Jack. I'm going to say Cactus Jack one because we got a one, two, three from the ref. Sandman, who is now the Ecw champion, is a heel. Apparently he's the heel. And it looks like we're building to.

Cactus Jack versus Sandman.

Sandman feud, which is a pretty good thing because we've seen Cactus Jack versus Sandman before and those are decent matches. And it could be a good start to Sandman's title in to go against. Holy shit. Shit.

Was this fucking tomb raider.

Flaming fucking Brandon iron. Sandman was pouring apparently lighter fluid on Cactus Jack. And now Terry Funk is back with a Brandon iron to fucking set on fire. Holy shit. Cactus Jack shirt just fucking lit on fire. And he rolled out of the ring and it went out. This is fucking dangerous, man. What the fuck? This is too close to the crowd. Get that shit out of there, man.

Look at these guys. Don't give a fuck.

They don't give a fuck. They want to fucking get burnt.

Like, dude, that's real fire.

Oh, fuck. A cactus has it. A cactus. Cactus is chasing Terry with the Brandon iron.

Definitely the best hot crow match yet tonight.

Oh my god.

Fucking fire.

This is crazy.

How crazy Terry Funk look though, walking that to the ring with that in his hand. That's what got me.

What was that?

How crazy did Terry Funk look just walk into the ring with it though?

Oh my god. Yeah, he looked ridiculous in Cactus Jack taking it from him and chasing him. That flame is still going as the show comes to an end. Holy moly. All right, looks like the show is wrapped up. We got the credits going. You said w Arena April 15, 1995 JV, you think this is the best supercard that we've covered?

I think so. I think so.

Yeah.

Three big, heavy hitters on this card.

Yeah. Big matches and all important shit going on. We'll run through it one more time just to kind of recap, but, man, what a fucking hell of a show. Let's do what we did for the first half of the show. I'll go through the matches, you tell me what you think star ratings were.

Okay?

All right. Sandman versus Shane Douglas. Sandman wins the title from Shane Douglas. What do you got? What do you think the rating was? Because that's what you're doing, right?

I'd say that was three and a half stars.

All right, you say it was three and a half stars. They gave it star and three quarters.

Jeez, it wasn't that bad.

No, it wasn't that bad.

Three and a half was kind of high, though.

Shane Douglas carried that match. Same man didn't do much, but it's a story kind of match.

Same man won the title predicting what the stars are, right?

Yeah. Okay. That's what you said. Yeah, so we'll go with that. How about public enemy versus the pit bulls? Four. Yeah, four. Four is what I got. Four stars. Now, we didn't see much of this match. 911 versus Ron Simmons. One and a half. One and a half. You got it. Shit, man, you're pretty damn good with this. And then the main event. Cactus Jack versus Terry Funk.

Four and a half.

He gave it four. That's it.

He gave the other one four and three quarters. The Eddie Guerrero match, right?

Eddie Guerrero got four and three quarters. Do you think Cactus Jack versus Terry Funk is better than Eddie and Dean?

I like the show better.

Yeah, you like that one better?

Yeah.

All right, so just to run through one more time, I think Jamie and I both agreement this is probably the best supercard that we've watched. Hostile showdown. 95. And I would say a close second is just the one we just did prior to this, a few months back was supercard number nine, Return of the Funker. We had high praise for that one, but I think this one just kind of edges it out. You get Raven versus Tommy Dreamer in that whole storyline. Eddie Guerrero. Dean Malinko Sandman. Shane Douglas. Shane Douglas loses the title after having it for over a year. You get the Public Enemy and the Pit Bulls in a crazy match. And then a great main event, cactus Jack and Terry Funk. So fucking hell of a show. Enjoyed it, JV, you enjoyed it? Good time.

Definitely.

So that was supercard special number ten, and we're going to be back in two weeks. And we're going to continue on and check out ecw hardcore TV episodes 105 and 106 from April 25 and May 2, 95. So that'll be coming in a couple of weeks. And also check out JV and I on the bottom line. Wrestling cast the career of stone cold Steve Austin. Our most recent episode is episode 132, physically Provoked. And we covered July into August of 2003. Check us out. We're getting to the end, very end of Stone Cold Steve Austin's career. So not much left to go with that. But check us out there. And also, you want to relive the career Stone Cold Steve Austin, we got you covered. We got all those episodes in our archive over at Bottom Line Wrestling cast. Again, guys, thanks for listening. Follows on Twitter. Follow me, Mike Pru at npru 83. Follow JV at John Van Damage and follow that extremecast on Twitter. And share this to your friends. Let your friends know there's this podcast covering Ecw hardcore TV and the Supercards Watch Along style. They'll love it. Share it with them. Tell them, Patreon. Spend fucking 5-5-A month. It's like dollars a week. That's it. It's nothing fucking less than $2 a week. All right? Try it out for a month. If you like it, tell your friends. All right, so that'll be it for us this week, guys. Thanks for listening, as always. Btt army and Btt JV Goon squad. JV, any final words before we head on out of here?

No, sir.

All right, guys. So we're going to play out with Sean Olsteb's recommendation to give us that Terry Funk song that we talked about before. Emerson Lake and Palmer fanfare for the common man. Take a listen to that and we'll see you in two weeks.