It's a new year stuff.

Oh, my God.

I travel with this guy. I've trained with them. I've broken bread with them and I choked them out.

The final battle between Raven and Tommy Dreamer.

You did your job and ran the fuckers off.

Look at that.

From the twisted steel section of Dudleyville.

Extreme Championship Wrestling has been thrown into disarray. This, my friends, is E, C, W.

Welcome to the extreme ECW live cast. And this is episode 99. And we are covering ECW hardcore TV episodes 215 and 216. June 3rd and June 10th, 1997. I'm Mike Prue, along with JV and Rick Beebe.

That's me.

Welcome back, guys. How you doing? Good. How about you, bro?

Good, man. How you doing?

Awesome.

Merry Christmas. Happy New Year.

Yes.

Merry Christmas. Happy New Year.

Happy everything. Happy holidays.

Happy Kwanzaa. Yeah.

Yeah. As you're hearing this, this is the end of the year. And, hey, they're continuing on in June of 1997. Dang. This is the. This is JB's birthday week, by the way. I won't give it away, but it's in the. It's in this week. June 3rd through June 9th. 10th. Sorry. 1997 almost gave that away. Okay, so anyway, yeah, so Here we are. JV's turning, what, 13 years old?

Thirteen.

Thirteen. Yeah, 13. During this time. And here we are, we're gonna move on. And we got some action from Waltham, right? Walt. Damn. I always ask this Walton.

Is it Waltham?

Waltham.

Waltham.

I want to go. Rick lives more north than we do. That's more.

Yes, I know. And I brought this up so many times, like. Yeah, I'm just gonna say. And hope I'm right.

It's one of those. It's one of the few towns and I obviously can't think of them. Is. Is right. Right. Okay. I was gonna say. Yeah. Framingham. Waltham. And I think that's.

Oh, you're saying Walth. You're saying Waltham.

No, Wal.

Don't even argue with. He says milk.

Got it. Got it. That's true.

I do say milk.

Yeah, I do. That's the way it is. It's milk.

Milk.

Milk.

Milk.

Milk.

I'm going to call it Milk.

Those.

Milk.

Oh, I'm gonna milk those balls. No, they say, I want to milk those balls.

No one says that.

Some girls do not milk.

They say milk. Mike Prude will milk your balls.

Somebody isolate that.

We're off.

Okay.

Anyway, that. All right. You can follow us on X. I Guess at Extreme Cast, whoever is lost.

You lost control of it already. You don't even know what you're saying.

We're at Sky Blue, baby.

At Extreme Mastodon.

Sky. Whatever the. All right, so anyway, yeah. Follows wherever at Extreme Cast. Follow me, my crew at npru.

If we're promoting on Blue Sky, I quit.

We're not really on there. I'm just kidding. Throwing it out there. You can follow me at Milk Pro. Milk Pro 83. That's my new name. Paul JV at John Van Damage. And follow Rick BB at Leo Y85. And also check out JV and I on the Bottom Line Wrestling cast, the career of Stone Cold Steve Austin. We are currently covering the career of Stunning Steve Austin. And we are just into 1994, January of 1994, so please check that out. And we have a whole career covered already. So cold from December 95 all the way through 2003 in special appearances after that. And now we're going retro into his WCW days. We did the Hollywood Blondes and now covering Stunning Steve every once in a while. So check us out at the Bottom Line Wrestling cast. All right, so like we said, we have some ECW here. We're gonna get into June 3, 1997. I still got all that milk and Milk on my mind. But yes, yes, here we are. It's ECW hardcore TV215, June 3, 1997. If you're gonna watch this along with us, it's on the Internet Archive. You can find it there. Watch On a peacock. It's season five, episode 23. It's pretty similar, just slightly different timing. Might be just a little off if you wanted to watch a long style.

You know what? I got a wonderful.

What's that?

It was not so much when this episode is coming out, because whatever, that's not a problem. But for the people that are going to be listening after the beginning of the new year. Will this be on Peacock?

Yes, yes, it still will.

WWE Network just is going to Netflix, right?

Okay. I wasn't sure if they were switching everything over to. To Netflix somehow or if it was wrong.

Only internationally. WWE Network or whatever the it is at this point.

Right.

Will be on Netflix internationally. So all the other stuff will like all the old shows, whatever, that would be on Netflix across the other countries.

Okay.

But in the United States, they got to stay with Peacock until I think it's a whole year still.

Okay.

It's all the. The pay per views will still be on Peacock. All the live events, whatever the. They're called Please. Premium live events. They'll still be on Peacock and all this stuff. Wwe. ECW. Point to bring that up.

Yeah, Just looking out for our listeners, especially the people that may hear this in, like, a year on the free feed, you know.

Yeah. And like I said, it's a good thing to bring up because there is a lot of confusion with that. I talked to some people, like, oh, it's going to. Everything's on Netflix. Like, no, no, no, not really. Not everything's just Raw here in the United States. Just a Raw. I'm sure they'll start to get more content gradually, but it's. It's still on Peacock. They have the rights to it.

Well, they've paid that big contract.

Yeah, they had that huge deal. So they still.

Once that's up, it'll go back to bidding. And if Netflix wants the entire catalog, they'll get that.

Right. Or WWE can just bring their network back to the usa, because it still exists in other places. But like I said, Netflix is, I think, consuming that. So Netflix is kind of like going to be doing what Peacock is doing here in the US but they'll be doing it in other countries.

Or they'll just. Starting next year, they'll all cart their business and just cash in instead of, like.

I don't know.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

Who wants to bid on Smackdown? Who wants to bid on the network?

Right?

Like the.

The sum of the parts.

Yeah, Yep. Yeah, very true. Anyway, for the time being, you can watch ECW on Peacock still, I think at this point, the time of hearing this. Hey, but if you're listening to this in a year, I don't know the. Is going on. Yeah, so whatever. All right, so we're gonna get right.

Like, it's owned by Saudi aramco Now, dear. 20, 30.

Yep. Yeah, exactly. That's why it's like, are you supposed to talk about anything current in podcasts? It's just gonna be nonsense eventually. Or it becomes history. It's like, oh, that's a historical opinion of the time. That's how people thought at that moment. All right, anyway, let's get to this show. June 3rd, 1997. Runtime 53, 29. I'll give a countdown three down to one, then say play. When I say play, we all click play. 3, 2, 1, play.

Here we go.

Joey's using his serious, serious voice.

Yes. We got a serious injury. It's one of our favorites.

ECW has been thrown into disarray.

Stevie Richards is injured. Disarray.

Although, is he really Interested?

He's a big guy.

Yes.

Yes, he is.

Yeah.

We got any background on that? Yeah, we do.

Yeah. It's a neck injury, if I remember correctly.

No idea what he says there.

I don't think Rob Zombie quite knows what he says there.

Probably not. 1960. All right, so Stevie Richards re injured his neck with cervical sprain. This happened during a match on May 30. Hazleton, Pennsylvania, is expected to miss six to eight weeks, and he was originally scheduled to face Terry Funk for the title on June 7th. So Terry Physics, this is. Yep. The Fizz Uncle. So, yeah, a week after this, he was supposed to get a title match with Terry Funk.

That's how I dress for the gym.

Champion.

Just do it.

Oh, it's funny what I was talking to you about with the WWE vault with Rick Rude throwing the cantaloupe and ripping the phone book. Yeah. He's wearing this exact same outfit.

So it was the same show.

It was from this night. Yeah, he had that same Nike sweatshirt, same Nike hat.

They filmed the promos, and then he decides to go out and challenge whoever to throw cantaloupes. That's awesome.

It's funny, though. They were, like, in, like, someone's house.

Yeah, it's probably. Like I said, they're probably in the basement right now. That was nice.

I believe Candido.

I should say Candido.

That probably sounded a hell of a lot better in his head.

Yeah, I know, because that was not good.

No, just. Just blow a kiss. Rick.

Look at this.

That's a great shot of the Sandman. He looks boss with the lights behind him.

You never know what they're gonna do.

This.

This matchup has made this event.

They still playing the Rick Rude music. Hello.

That hat and that sweatshirt looks like Rick Rude just got it for, like, Christmas. Like. I know, I know it's not Christmas at that point, you know, I mean, this was June, but he just got the outfit.

Yeah. The ultimate. It's the ultimate, dad.

It was his birthday. It was his birthday like, a week.

Before he got him a JCPenney. Yeah.

Second floor, sports section.

There you go.

What's our crew's birthday? His birthday is right before Christmas, so that still doesn't work.

I'm just gonna buckle my seat belt, sit back and watch what happens. Stevie Richards will watch as well.

Snapmare on Stevie.

Oh.

Oh, it does.

That was a rude awakening.

Was the mother funker.

Daisy dukes. Daisy dukes.

Stevie's all taped up. Did they mention when this match was? Because I don't have that. I know.

No, I don't think.

Exactly. What he's made of tonight, he just keeps.

Yeah. And I mean, in the notes that you wrote down, it literally just says highlights package. Stevie Richmond. Yeah.

That'S what it was.

Super kick is.

No, no, no. But that's what I'm saying is that. Yeah, there's no mention of what it's from.

Let me show you what a real.

Super kick looks like.

Lights went out.

I mean, my guess is it's from the April 25th Waltham Show.

It looks like he's the arena.

Well, no, no, no, no. I meant the. I meant the Stevie verse.

Oh, okay. All right. Yeah. Maybe.

Stevie Richards or knuckle junction.

Oh, this is right here. Is.

That's the golden dome. Yeah.

Monaka. Yeah, Monaka.

Monaka. Yeah.

Not Monica. Monica like Denzel Washington. Monaka Training day. If you get it, you get it.

I just don't want to push the limit on that one.

Epcot is where they're at right here.

Looks like it for sure.

They're in the Epcot Center. Yeah. I didn't know we're gonna get a prolonged Stevie Terry funk match. I thought this was the match that I wasn't able to appear in.

Unless. Unless this was. Let's say, unless this was part of the, like, the elimination, you know. No, actually. Actually, maybe. Oh, no, no, no. The one he got injured in. It was a tag match.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And it was a tag match against the Eliminators.

Eliminators. Yeah.

Is this outside? No, it's just a weird backdrop.

They're. They're in the golden dome. So it looks like. Yeah, that's what I say.

Looks like Epcot Center.

Yeah. But, yeah, I can see because the video quality is a little low. It almost looks like they're in, like, a stadium.

Yeah, this match is definitely an older match from, like, April or something.

Yeah.

Well, that. That's an easy lookup, actually. We just check them on Mon Monica.

Yeah, but see, now it looks like the arena.

Splicing.

He's given Funk a taste of his own medicine.

Headbutt right to the face.

What the was that? What are they doing? It's me and my brother wrestling.

That's. I've seen. I've seen people pull that move off, and it actually looks cool if you can keep it going in a fluid motion. But it looks kind of dumb if, like, we saw, you know, if. If you can't get a fluid motion going.

Any of the matchup, the fourth one may be off for the.

You're going to have to do more than that to keep Terry's punk down.

Yeah. Now we're back. The Golden Dome. What the displacing this.

Yeah, it's all split.

Yeah.

But it's. Yeah, so it is. Like I said, it's just highlights.

Two different matches.

Yes. Yeah. First time he hit him. Terry Funkos you because of the chop. Go on. Sorry.

On. On May 2nd at Asbury Park, New Jersey, Terry Funk defeated Stevie Richards as well. Oh, they just said Buffalo, New York.

The.

Okay. But this is Sandman versus Stevie and. And Terry.

Oh.

Oh, that was nice.

Wasn't looking at the video. This was in May. May 10th. ECW Arena. That look right? Yeah. All right.

Yeah.

It was a triple threat match. Funk. Fatal Fall away. Funk, Raven, Sandman, Stevie. All right, so they're just highlighting the feud between Stevie and Terry Funk in the match that was to come, but didn't come.

There's Raven wearing the Crimson Mask.

And Raven's gone soon. Yep.

In fact, the next episode that we'll be watching tonight is going to be spoilers. Last match of Raven.

Last one.

Last one. Last of his ECW run. Is going to WCW like two days after the match.

Have Ravens flock.

Yep.

Opening package here.

Yeah.

This is stupid and it's just nonsense. Just all over the place.

All right.

Like at least throw is the dates on this.

Yeah. For real.

Right?

Don't keep cutting between four different matches.

Over the course of two months.

What kind of is this? Back in the Golden Dome.

Golden Epcot Center. Cleaning hose.

Oh, big left hand. Oh, Ms. Steve King.

Oh, right on the point of the jaw.

All right.

Finally. Rick Rood looks like the most. He's having the most miserable day, doesn't he?

He couldn't rip up that. That phone book.

Yeah.

There.

Able to win that World Heavyweight title.

Last week here on this television program we saw a whole new side.

Have you seen that wrestler that he comes out to? Even Flow and all the lyrical. Never mind.

Yeah, let's listen to Stevie. I bring.

A whole world of pain.

That I'm gonna unleash on you.

And.

I'm going to pin you on June 7th and fulfill my dream of becoming.

The World Heavyweight Champion in my home town.

A series of injuries.

Stevie Rich is wearing glasses to look serious out of here.

Instead, 25 year old Chris Candido, same age as Stevie. Former NWA world heavyweight champion, former WW tag team champion. Says he'll need no gimmicks.

What were you saying about the guy that comes out to the ring with even flow?

There's an indie wrestler he comes out to even. His name's Stephen Flow. And the lyrics to the entire Steven Flow. And the crowd sings it and that is epic. It was on the Bill Burr podcast.

Was it really?

Yeah. Bill Burr talks about Bill Burr. When is with his interview with I think Adam Ray.

Oh, I didn't listen to the whole thing yet. Okay. Oh, cool. I listened to like the first half of it.

I like Adam Ray, he's funny.

He's the guy that does the Dr. Phil. Right? We'll be right back.

You know what?

It would never even happen if I wasn't here. If I had not come to ecw, this place would have been. The doors have been closed a long time ago and the pay per view comes and all I get do to be on it. No, because my arm isn't swinging. Did anybody shed a tear for me? Nobody cared about me. So why should we care about you, Steve Richards?

Huh?

What have you ever done in your lousy thing? You follow around Raven. Some stupid idiot wants to stand here talking about all kind of people. I just follow them around. You're a complete. You're a joke. You don't even know a pair of wrestling tight D. Richards. You do not belong in a world title match. But now you're not going to be cuz you're. And I'm going to be there. I'm going to take on Terry Funk.

You know, okayo got the spot in that match.

I'm going to get back what I should have have gotten a Barely legal. I should have gotten a world title shot that night, not you. It should have been my shot because I made this place when it first opened and I came back Suicide Blonde. So Terry, I'm gonna come back and I'm gonna take what's rightfully mine. And I'm gonna take you out. Simply because of Barely Legal I wasn't able to wrestle. I'm gonna get you back, Terry Funk. Because a long time ago you made me.

The June 7 show was Wrestle Palooza. Okay?

He's so tired right now, Popey.

Chuck Richards at Mad Square Garden. I was crying that night because he's.

Tired from the promo.

He run out of steam me out.

Of that building cuz I was only two years old.

Terry Funk.

I'm also here to prove that you. You're not the same man that you were in 1975 when you beat Jack Brisco. That probably, I might add, was on a fluke because they thought Dory was going to be there. But Dory couldn't make it. So you, you came there, Jack ready for you and you slipped.

Is Chris Candido like, is this him or is Brian Christopher. The real Chris Candido, and Chris Candido ripped him off.

You make a very valid point.

This was Brian Christopher style promo in uswa.

Well, I mean, Candido was in USWA at some point too. So. Yeah, who know, he might have ripped him off, is my point.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Was around in Smoky Mountain before.

Yeah.

Well, think about it, Dr. Tom. You ever hear Dr. Tom do cut a promo? He sounds like Rod.

Then he can lay. Oh, you got beat by an old guy. You got beat by a smuggle, Terry. I'm gonna break that rule. You're a broken down old crippled piece.

Yeah, there it is. No gimmicks needed.

No gimmicks needed.

It needs to lay into that a little bit more. No gimmicks. All right, so get a video tape. The videotape barely illegal. The videotape. Can own it. Cheaper than it was on pay per view probably.

So I just did a little research because you mentioned something about Terry Funk beating his grandfather at Madison Square Garden. February 26, 1973. Terry Funk defeats Chuck Richards at Madison Square Garden. In 10 minutes and 55 seconds too. So it wasn't, it wasn't a squash. It was a fairly decent length match.

Where was it on the card? Based on those results doesn't mean they were accurate.

Fourth. Fourth match out of 10. Hang on. 1, 2, 3, 4, 9. 4. 4 out of 9. So basically it's like maybe before intermission. Yeah, before. Right before intermission.

That's a good spot. Right before intermission.

Yeah.

W. Big ass Hulk Hogan used to do that spot a bunch too. Right before intermission. That's when his match was. Then people would have the break and then they announced, Hulk Hogan's coming back. It'll be back later.

Back. Ticket sales are going up, baby. Welcome for the house.

Be back next month.

Welcome for the house, brother.

She's hardcore. She's hardcore.

Take your panties off and show them in the dark. Remix. Kind of unimpressed time. Brian Lee.

I'm unimpressed. And something I, I remember now because like 96, late 96, early 97, it was these same promos over and over again of all these video clips. Oh, and I finally remember at the time, but now I'm sick of it.

They, they, they don't promos House like forever. See this, you will see this until 99 on hardcore TV. And how do I know? Because I was watching 99 and that's where I got the. The night. Because I heard that thing so much you.

And I heard so much in 96 and 97.

Right.

This goes on and on.

Yes. Yes, it does.

I mean, that's. If you're gonna play any promo, I guess that's the one you keep playing.

Yeah.

Extreme Warfare Volume 2 must have had the most sales of any videotape that they sold.

I wouldn't be surprised if it did. Fans, they shilled it enough.

Eagerly anticipated the explosion, the one on one meeting of Sabu and Taz. And it happened at ECW's very first pay per view, Barely Legal, on Sunday night, April 13th. End of that matchup, Taz choked Sabo out. No excuses. Taz choked Sabu out, period. But Taz's manager, Bill Alfonso, had bet all his cash on Sabu before the matchup. And then infuriated.

You're gonna need cash, dog.

Cash rules everything around me. Remember the Public Enemy started quoting that in the promos.

I missed them.

Yeah.

I don't even know what the I even like about what's going on right now. I guess I like Stevie Richards.

It will not be.

Yeah.

On Sunday night, August 17, you will.

See they're coming off just having their first pay per view, but it's almost like a transition period out of, like, their biggest stars.

Yeah.

And now they're building the new big stars. Like, Taz is becoming to be a big star now, even though he's been around.

Right. But he's. He's definitely getting a big. I mean, not that he wasn't getting a push to begin with, but he's getting an even bigger push now.

Right?

The Dudley boys are on the rise, too.

Same as the first. A little bit bloodier and a little bit worse. I. I don't know what's going to happen this time, Joey, and I don't think you do either.

I don't. But the Human Suplex machine has some ideas of his own. He is more miserable than ever since winning the biggest matchup of his life. And that's a shoot. And if you think I'm kidding, he's standing by with these comments.

This Saturday night, Sabu, you and me, one on one, one more time. The first time. They wanted to see who the better man was. There was no need for it. I knew who the better man was. And you knew. And I showed you and everybody else I was the better man. I choked you out. I made you quit. You were done. I beat you at barely legal dead center in the middle of that ring, smack dab. In the middle of the ring. Now, this Saturday, it's gonna happen again. But you see, Sabu, I don't care about winning or losing no more, brother. I'm just gonna choke your scrawny out because I want to and because I can. And because you need it. I stuck my hand out to shake yours. Stupid move on my part. Oh, Saturday, brother, the only hand shaking is gonna be when the ref goes to check you as I have you hooked up in the kataha jame. It's ass kicking time, Sabu and Fonzie. You too, brother. I'm choking you out. Saturday night. I'mma choke your ass out. You swerved me. You done me wrong. Imma do you wrong now, Cebu. The point now is me hurting you. The point now is me busting you up your damaged goods. Anyway, brother, you're sitting in Japan supposedly making fat paychecks. Well, maybe if you showed some loyalty to this company, you'd make a fat paycheck here.

Doubt it.

You got no respect.

Yeah, like that, bro.

And after Saturday night, you ain't gonna have no breath. Cause I'm choking you out. I guarantee it. Imma choke you out. I'm gonna choke you out and I'm gonna beat your ass, Fonzie. I'm not even sure if I can choke you out. Cause you got a neck like a stack of dimes, brother. But I'll tell you what. I'm gonna hook you up and I'mma choke you out too. And I'm gonna lay both of your miserable bodies on top of each other. Come to the ECW arena and watch the path of rage go through Sabu.

You know what I don't want.

All right?

One critique of that. He's like, I don't care about winning or losing. All I care about is choking you out. If you choke him out, you're gonna win.

Yeah, it would have made more sense if he's like, I don't care about doing it in the ring. I will choke you out at some point. Like you don't know when it's coming. I'll do it in the alley, in the supermarket at church. You know? Like that would make more sense. It doesn't even have to be in an actual contest. I. I just want to choke you out.

Yeah, like a random Sabu match, he just comes up.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Or like he jumps him in the park or something.

Yeah, yeah.

Y going back to Ag Hall.

They're way out of the head here. Beach party 97.

Only the first 1000 people will be allowed in. That's assuming a thousand people are going to show up. Own your copy of Barely Legal. Isolate that. You know, could could mean something completely different.

Number on your screen now and order your copy. Because in celebration of the video's release, the main event from that pay per view will be rematched this Saturday. Saturday night at Wrestle Palooza. It's Saboo versus Taz Number two. And for you fans who can't get to Philadelphia on time, complete results of Wrestlepalooza 97 will be on the ECW hardcore hotline after midnight Eastern time.

Imagine that. Staying up after midnight. I get. I gotta hear these results. $4aminute payment beside City of Brotherly Love999.0 for ECW's gonna eat some of these Cracker Jacks.

Probably Francine.

He's like Cracker Jacks.

Pass Sabo 2. Here's a preview of the action you will see Saturday night. A recent six man tag team matchup. Mess.

A recent tag team matchup. That means it's like from a month ago probably. And it's clear it is. It's from April 25th.

So from a month and a half ago. Yeah.

Yeah. The eliminators and Taz vs. Dudleys and no Devon. RVD and Sad Boy. Oh, oh, is that.

Who the.

Is that? Big Dick? Big Dick or is that okay. Oh, Big Dick just landed on his. He did look like 911 though. Is that 91 1?

You like to have to step in the ring against that threesome Joey.

A lot of sexual innuendo here.

Yeah, well, that's what he loves to do.

T and Saturn have cornered the market on being miserable and is just out of his mind. Then again Sao and Rob Van Dam just as willing as the Eliminators to throw Cross into the window.

All right, I'm gonna give a little show results as this match kicks off here from April 25th. Gonna give some show results for that Monica show. Monaka. It was considered to be among the best ECW shows with the hot crowd and hard hit in action open the match had the Pit Bulls defeating. The FBI has interrupted and choked out Chris Chetty and Morrison. Who the Morrison is Chris Candida defeated Wolfie D who's wearing a mask. He was going on the name of Wolf Junior. I didn't know that. I didn't know Wolfie D was under a mask in ECW. Had Big Dick and D Von defeat Spike Dudley and Mikey Whipreck. He had a postmatch brawl with Balls Mahoney, Sandman, Tommy Dream and Terry Funk, Steve Richards, everybody around there. New Jack defeated Axel Rotten. Tommy Drew defeated Lis. Terry Funk retained the ECW Championship after defeating Stevie Richards. Shane Douglas defeated Raven, who was, you know, Shane Douglas, local guy in this match in Pennsylvania. Closer to the end, the West Coast, Pennsylvania. West. Western Pennsylvania.

West Coast, Yeah. I was gonna say the western side of Pennsylvania had a coast.

Yeah, West Coast. West coast eliminated. Has retained the tag team titles against Big Dick Devon in a weapons match. Another thing that we're not going to see, which I would love to see. I've seen. May 25th in West Liberty, West Virginia. Raven broke character and wrestled Stevie Richards as Johnny Polo. And he. And he had Stevie Richards beat Johnny Polo.

Yeah, I'd love to see that.

That would be cool. There's only 200 fans in attendance for it.

So he was basically on the character, like letting him. Right?

Yeah, yeah.

And he was wrapping up like, because he's. He's leaving.

Saturn made a major mistake by throwing.

Apparently the negotiations for Raven going to wcw. Paul Heyman wanted Eric Bischoff to allow Raven to return at the Hardcore Heaven pay per view on August 17th and lose to Tommy Dreamer. But Eric Bischoff said, nah, that, that's not happening. I'm not gonna get this guy. Then he's gonna go back to you and lose somebody on one of your pay per views. Smart move by Eric Bischoff that.

Yeah, he ain't dumb.

It's funny that Heyman. Heyman knows better, but he still had to try.

Yeah.

No, you don't have any control at this point. Get the out of here.

Mr. Monday night makes the save and gets tagged in.

All right. Yeah. That's all the news I have for now.

Till next time.

Milk. Brew. Milky.

Pru.

In the house. Milky. Is it Milky Cabrera or Milky Cabrera?

Milky.

So, yes. Okay. So that's how I need to remember how to say mo. Oh, milk.

You said it though. You just said milky. You said milky, not milky. So you said it, right?

I said both. I said, is that milky or milky? You said milky. Milky with an e. All right, it. Whatever.

Shows incredible agility.

The only times I have to like second guess myself when I'm talking to like, kids, like my classes, I say milk. Milk. I'm like, there's certain words like, you know, you. Ah. I used to hate saying specifically what.

Because I say pacifically.

Because I would always like slip up and say pacifically, like Pacific Ocean.

Let me ask you guys.

Yeah. X can ask you a question.

Specifically. Specifically.

I ask you that.

Or you can be like, ace veteran and say. Can I ask you a question?

Learned that in Brooklyn as well. Maybe Devon was his letter carry.

Look at that guy in the front row with the hat. He's. He's getting a kick out of it.

Oh, yeah.

Big Dick's working over Saturn. Working over Saturn.

He has fun saying that.

Who wouldn't? Oh, let's see Sabu up. I love how sad. Just kicked him. I just kicked him in the ass.

That would have. That would have looked much more impressive if it wasn't Saboo trying to do the move.

Oh, we got an elbow drop.

I was gonna say we're gonna get a Saturn elbow drop.

Oh, no, Robert. Dave comes in with a kick.

What was that? That RVD was way too early for that.

There he was.

That was nice, though. No hands. Plancha.

That dude in the front. I don't know. He's not even in the front row. He's just at ringside. Look like you in a straight jacket shaking. Oh, that was a good spot by Sabu.

That. That was nice.

Yeah, he landed that, but comes in. There's no referee even bothering to count.

Nope.

I mean, he's in. He's in there, but he doesn't give a. He's like, I'm not counting anything.

He's gonna count Cronus. This is ECW proof. There are no rules. There's no such thing as a legal man. Unless it makes the story work better.

Exactly.

The.

Great spot. Great move there. Dragon sweep kicks. Double dragon. That's what it should have been called. Double dragon sweep. What's up with these kicks in the ass? Like, Big Dick's taking them down big. The big dick just came all over. Came all over there.

Yeah.

The big dick cometh.

Oh, Sabu, the camera totally missed that.

Yeah.

I just did that little move where I try to look over the ring just by reaching out my neck a little bit. Like, I can see over.

Yeah, right, because you can look into the monitor. Yeah.

Just means I'm into the action.

Overhead. Belly to belly.

Or if I was high, it would be even better, right?

Yes.

Come on, Taz. There we go. Oh, nutshot. Oh, there we go. Suplex. Oh, he's busting.

Oh, that was actually.

Oh, has no cell.

Yeah, I was like, what the hell? On the suplexes. Suplex.

Let me show you how to do it.

I give suplexes. Suplexes don't hurt me. That's my superpower. That's my video game power. You could hurt me with my own powers.

Yeah, like Like Jimmy Snooker having a hard head so you can't hit. You can't do anything to it. Yeah, that's his superpower.

Hey, Taz, go up Fonzie like you said you would. Even though this was a month and a half ago.

Yeah, we're being a bro them up.

Cronus with a RVD style kick to rvd. They're exchanging superpowers. Oh, here we go. Devon's getting choked out. Yeah. Caught the Hajime.

Oh, no. That came real close to hitting Devon's head too, though.

It did.

Elimination.

There it is. 1, 2, 3. Cronus gets the pin over D. Von Poor. Devon's taking all the bumps. Pay your dues. The. That Mikey Whipreck in the corner with a sling.

No, it's Candido.

Oh, it's Candido. Yeah. Okay. Those jean shorts. Candido's rocking of the time, I guess. Of the time.

97. Yeah. Yeah.

For adults.

Yeah, like the. Yeah, like dad shorts, you know, like.

Yeah.

Wearing them on the weekends.

Oh, they're already promoting Hao Heaven.

Thanks. So it's happening in two months.

Two months? Yeah. That's our next pay per view to cover. We'll get to that.

Sorry, Vincent. Eric, but we had to do it.

What are we gonna get to that? I have it mentioned in our schedule, even though that kind of goes off track at times.

We'll see. Yeah.

Currently it's supposed hardcore heaven 97. Right now we're projected to have it out in March. Three months, which is not too far off from, like, the pace of where we're at. If we're on time, we'll. We'll have it in three months.

Yeah.

April 8th, 1995. Wow. Throw back here. And Stevie, too, at first. Hat guy. We haven't seen Hat guy in a while.

I know.

Has he been. I thought he was around always. He gave up in 97.

He. He has. I don't think he travels. And I think the fact that we've been going like Monaca and Asbury park and stuff.

That's true. April 15, 1997. Two years ago. You can find that in archives as well. What was the episodes that you first started being regular on? 96. Beginning of 96. I. January 96, I think.

I believe it was January 96. It might have been December 95. I mean, I was definitely doing the QCCS.

Yeah, you're already doing QCCS.

There you go.

At least through mid 95.

Yeah. But yeah, I want to say it was 96 when, like January 96, when I started actually being live. With you guys? Yeah.

We play the song yet? Sorry, probably. I don't think we have.

Yeah, I don't think so.

Really?

Never mind. Smells Like Teen Spirit. Yeah, I don't think we played Smells Like Teen Spar.

I mean, I can't think of a time that we would have.

Yeah. Entertainers. All right. It's going in.

Skid Row Blew me away. That's what Stevie Shirt says.

I always thought he said I'm. Is it. What does he say? Does he say I'm mulatto?

I thought that's what he said.

A mulatto? Yeah.

I'm a lotto. I'm albino. I'm a skater.

Yeah.

Raven, you are not Kurt Kobe. A farewell to Raven. Tommy Dream is a little pee pee. I hate that picture.

Yeah, it shows off his mushroom head a little too well. Like right there.

Oh.

Hell.

To hit him with.

He didn't. He broke his fingers. Snapped his fingers.

Oh, I love that Everlast outfit that Bueller had on.

Yes.

Remember that. Oh, there's Luna too. She'll take it. Ddt. Even flow.

Tommy. Tommy bladed his hand.

Now, for all the times that we on Raven, he did make a great impact.

Yes.

Now that. Now that we're losing him and this, like. Yeah, he was. He had a good impact.

That was a nice impact on his skull, too.

His promos weren't always the best.

Those promos were very, very hit or miss. But I mean, not. Not that Tommy's were any better.

No, no, I'm not saying that at all. Because, yeah, I've never really been impressed with Tommy. He's just an ECW guy. Whatever. I get it.

I mean, one. One thing I can say. Oh, go ahead.

I was gonna say, like, take your favorite. Like, I don't know, just think of, like, us being Boston Red Sox. This might be, I don't know, controversial, but it's kind of like just like the. Dustin Pedroia. Yeah, he's good for our team. He, like. He put up good numbers or whatever.

He's.

But who the fuck knows? Many more.

Yeah, right.

You know. Yeah, he was big for the organization.

Right. Mean, one. One thing I can honestly say is, you know, obviously when this was all going on, I'd seen it and I remember it being so awesome and like, oh, you know, Tommy, he's so cool. And Raven, like, you know, whatever. Watching it back now as an adult, I view it totally differently. And I realized, like, Raven's a whiny bitch. I know we've said this before. Yeah, he's such A whiny that can't do anything for himself. He just relies on everybody else. And Tommy's not exactly that cool.

Oh, yeah, Rick, this is one of the first episodes you would have been on with us.

Yeah.

Is this. That was cool. That's a moment.

Then he goes and gets the pie and eats. Eats it and then pile drives Raven on it. Did we see this in Tokyo? Kirk and Kurakin Hall. It's a crossover to my other. To cross over to my other. Yeah, my other show. Oh, yeah, because I remember seeing she has the cast on and we, we made a joke about how she gave out too many hand jobs or something. The flight, the flight was long, so the hand, the hand jobs got. Got too excessive or something.

This is a highlight filled episode, huh?

Yeah, they. They clearly did not have much faith in whatever they had filmed.

Well, it seems like it was one of those in between weeks because next they're going to be coming back with like loaded. A loaded show with matches from Wrestle Palooza.

Palooza. Yeah.

Yeah. So this was kind of just a weak week.

A week week.

Oh, yeah. So they have the Jerry Lawler going on still at this point with Tommy Dreamer.

Extremely crappy wrestling. Have you heard that before?

I don't think I have.

Yeah, he's on Raw. He keeps referring to it as extremely crappy wrestling. And probably that's another thing to bring.

Up is that, you know, during this time there are episodes of Raw where Jerry Law is just talking about ECW the whole time. Not that we need to cover that. But one thing that I did not see, I saw this looking at the notes, is that this Jerry Lawler Tommy Dreamer feud also made its way into uswa.

Yes, yes, it did as well.

And I haven't seen any of that footage. So I think before the next episode I'm gonna have to watch some of that.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I've seen it. I've seen it on online somewhere.

It's definitely gonna be out there.

Yeah.

The total elimination shirt sucks. Yeah, it's a graphic of. Of them doing that move.

I hate dreaming.

Oh, that's that old promo.

Our feud comes to an end. If you're man enough to step into the ring with me, I'm man enough to take you out this Saturday night. Our lifelong hatred.

Looks like he's reading off a cue card.

What the is this is the most cut show ever.

And it shows because we're talking about everything but the show.

Yeah, I mean, that happens often, but.

Right, right. But it's.

It but we're finding ways to talk about something else.

Right? That's what I'm saying. It's like sometimes there's just times where it's like the match is dragging on and we get off on a tangent. This is like none of these. There's no matches to drag on. It's just all cut. Cut footage from the past two years of Tommy and Raven.

This had to be in Florida, right?

Believe so, yeah. That weird grass over there, the.

What was the name of that channel down there?

Oh, Sunshine Network.

Sunshine Network.

Yeah.

This is Japan.

That's Japan. Yep.

Yeah, you can. You can tell by the. The ring.

The postcards, people.

Well, no. Yes, that too. But I was. I was meaning by the turn pads or one long pad.

Right? Yeah, the. I guess the turnbuckle itself is extended.

Yeah.

Compared to in the US where it's more against the pole. Oh, I remember this.

Y. Yeah. Honest out in the snow.

Look at the snow.

They almost get hit by a car or something. I might be wrong.

Wait, so this was recorded in April?

No, no, no.

I don't know.

This was probably like 95.

Yeah, this is like in the winter. This might have been like December. 95, January and February. 96.

Yeah, they're just showing a bunch of random in regards to their fe.

There's been too much pain, enough bloodshed, too many people involved, and too many innocent victims. This Saturday night, Raven, it's me and you. I'm gonna run your out of ecw. I can live with that and you can't. But that's your burden. Your cross.

Is Raven even at Wrestle Palooza? Is that what he's talking about?

Yeah.

Okay.

Yeah, that's the. That's the loser leaves town match we're gonna see next episode.

All right, all right, so that concludes that episode. And get the height. Building up to Wrestlepalooza, which is what we're about to get into in just a little bit. But we're gonna take a quick little break and we'll be right back.

Sa. To pretend she.

Right now. Entertainers. Here we are now Entertainers. I'm stupid. Here we are now. Rain through. Us Here we are now Entertain us. It. And I forget just why to listen.

Yeah Guess it makes me smile I.

Found it hard it's hard to find a. Well, whatever.

Never mind.

All right, we're back now for the next episode of ECW Hardcore TV. And it's ECW Hardcore TV TV, episode 216. It's June 10, 1997, and we're continuing on and now we're at wrestle palooza. It's June 7, 1997, where we're gonna get all this action. We're gonna get a few big matches. We're gonna get Tommy Dreamer versus Raven. You know, big match that they were just building up on the last episode. All those clips of old Raven and old Tommy Dreamer. So we're gonna get that big match. We're gonna get Sabu versus Taz and we're also gonna get Shane Douglas versus Taz. Oh, holy man. We got.

We.

I think we're getting the mother load here on this episode. These seem like all the big matches.

So. Yeah, they're going all out on, trying to, trying to, you know, show off Russell Palooza.

Yeah, well they borders and probably many others to sleep at 3:00am yeah, on that last episode, people staying up, they had to go through all these promo packages of Stevie Richards and Tommy Dream and then Raven and then get an old match from April of 97.

Yeah. 1212 year old me sitting there going, why the did I stay up again? Yeah, they really chugging my Mountain Dew to trying to stay awake.

Yeah, they, they came back with a big one, it seems like. We'll see. So let's, let's check it out. I'll give a countdown three down to one, then say play. When I say play, we all click play. 3, 2, 1, play.

Standard Joey in the ring intro.

This is how he's kicking it off. We've done special Supercard specials of Wrestle Palooza in the past.

Well, now that we're, now that we're.

In the pay per view era though, we got to save it for pay per views. Otherwise we'll never get through the weekly episodes.

No.

That'S probably why, you know, we are still where we're at is because we did so many Super Cod specials previously.

Right.

Instead of just going week to week. But the old week to weeks didn't cover matches from the Super Cards.

Yeah, they, they occasionally would show something, but it wasn't. It wasn't a lot and, and I mean half the time it would be you. The matches that you'd want to see, they wouldn't show you because they're trying to sell the videotape. Like I bring it up again. High Incident, the scaffold match.

Yes.

That we never saw.

Yeah, we still didn't say that.

Nope.

Rick Ruder's Canadian tuxedo.

Yeah, he's trying, trying to get Joey to do the. The hip swivel.

Come on Joey, do the hit swivel. Cutting off Joey Style. He's back, he's back, baby.

Sick.

John Cronus looking like the lead singer of Living Color. Corey Glover.

A white version. Yeah.

A white Corey Glover. Yeah.

Kind of looks like very sad.

Y. He decides to start licking Cronus.

He looks.

Lance, right?

He starts licking Lance, right?

Lance right. Has like Jameson suit on. Oh, Joey, style has the Jameson suit on.

Yeah, he does a little big on him. Rick Rude wearing a Calvin Klein shirt, fractured kneecap.

And we will show you that.

Maybe it's not Calvin Klein. Never mind.

I don't know. I see the K. Is that. Is there a C in there?

I thought so, but I'm. I can't quite tell because of the, the video quality, you know.

But I can see why he said that. I'm not sure either.

Just a couple of miles away.

Oh man. Seen him in a little bit. Well, well, okay, let me get this.

Absolutely perfectly straight, Joey. I've got no. Styles is going to do the pelvic thrust that I made famous oh so many years ago with who I would and I should. But we have more important business to attend to. Namely the fact that I am here a few miles.

Oh shit.

One short cab ride or one minor carjacking incident away from the ECW Arena. Standing beside me, the humongously phallic Big Dick Dudley. Put that rock down.

Hugo.

And his half brothers, the former and future ECW tag team heavyweight champions.

Of the world.

D. Von and Bubba Ray, the Dudley Boys. Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I have compassion for brother Perry Saturn. Blessed is he who risk life, limb and salvation to cast the Dudley boys into total elimination.

Yeah, total elimination.

Yeah, total elimination, Big Dick, that is false elimination. Too bad you boys can't hit your move, Terry Saturn, you about as useless as a one legged man in an ass kicking contest.

What a dick.

Come to think of it, that's exactly what you are boy. Useless.

Because come time when we step in the ring, the Dudley boys, we're gonna hand your asses to you and we're gonna take those belts back for the second time. Big Dick, go steal us a Buick, Dirt. Close this up. Let's get out of here. Thank you for watching the extremely championship bound Dudleys. We now return you to the more mundane portion of this program.

All right, so here we are. Oh, chastity, chastity. All right, so that restful loser. We get the big match here. Tommy Dreamer versus Raven. Raven's last match. I'm gonna say though, crazy big Dick Dudley. And you know Joe Gardner. Giving the big hype, you know, extremely phallic. Big Dick Dudley. Big Dick. Dudley has such a big dick. What the is he mad about all the time? Be gleeful all the time.

It's got a lot of little dick energy for a guy with a big dick.

Yeah, you don't know.

Maybe so big, it's up his ass.

Well, I was gonna say, maybe he has to, you know, get creative with the way he, you know, wraps it around his leg or whatever so it doesn't stick out of the jean shorts.

Maybe it just doesn't get hard. Maybe it's just like a. Oh, that's it.

Or maybe, maybe, maybe if he does get hard, it, like, makes him pass out because there's so much dick to fill with blood, you know, that his brain doesn't. Doesn't function.

Yeah.

So that's why I was like.

I'm getting lightheaded.

Cause my dick's hard.

What's. What's. What's funny is that this is probably the exact conversation we would have had in 1997 if we were all sitting on the couch, probably. Big dick. His dick's so big. What the.

Why is this?

Oh, that's why. Never mind.

Okay, this is why I'm not gonna pass out, though. Because it's not that big.

Yeah, I'm not passing out. I want to see this match. I've been waiting for this match.

Life. Milky Dick Pruski. Sorry. Trying to come up with a new name.

You said Milky. Good job there.

Yeah. She's got that milky white dress on. Outfit on. Oh, yeah, she got me talking straight. These ladies in the house. Who the is on the ground over there?

I was just wondering. Oh, was that. Is that a blow up dog?

Yeah, We got the Howard Stern guy. Where's hat guy? He's wearing a different hat now. What's going on? He should be here.

That guy's right there. He's behind. He's behind y' all there.

Yep, I see him. Yep. Very good.

Even wearing a Neil Gaiman Gaiman Sandman shirt.

Yep. Isn't it ironic.

Chanting you sold out? Yeah.

I need get paid.

Gonna pay me, deadbeat. Oh, look at that.

Paulie hasn't paid me in, like, six months.

Where's the white part? Where's the white after party? 200.

200.

200 pounds.

About 252. My man eating a box. We're gonna use this blow up doll in this match, All right?

Standard wrestling trope. If there's a trophy, if somebody's getting hit with it, there's a blow up doll. Someone's going into it.

Now. This is the last match for Raven. But Raven does come back, right?

Yes. Yeah, he'll be there. Yeah, yeah, he'll be. He'll be back. And then he'll leave the Raven again.

Imagine he went goth. He'd be goth in 2024.

I mean, he kind of was goth in TNA.

Was he?

Yeah, he had like the eye makeup.

And see much of it, but. Yeah.

Yeah.

Just a reminder, right? Like, just trying to remind myself. Tommy Dream has never pinned Raven. Right.

In canon. Yes. He has never pinned Raven. Realistically storyline. Yeah, he. He. Yeah, in the story. Yeah, in the storyline, he has never pinned Raven. In reality, he had pinned him a few times, but they were all like before. Before the feud really took off. Yeah.

This is your chance to own a piece of extreme history. It's the official.

Poster.

Movie theater size.

Supplies are Limited. Only 1000 of these collector's editions.

It used to be a big thing back then, though, to get like a movie theater poster. At least I thought it was cool.

Yeah, they were cool.

Yeah. So I can see why.

Not from like.

Right, right.

You got one that was actually in the movie theater or one from a video store that was the movie theater.

Yeah, like this. The standees or whatever.

Yeah, yeah. Even the standings or even the ones that were the same kind of poster they had in the theater. But they had them in the video store too, right?

Yeah, the videos. The video store advertisement posters.

I always got the scream ones. I just wanted scream, Scream one, Scream two, Glory hole over there. Tommy Dream is looking out of Imagine. Dude stuck his dick out.

They're not just thought to jerk it off.

Not thinking that it was being recorded. Just like you.

Extreme wrestling.

Extremely cocky wrestling.

Some dude in a wheelchair. That poor bastard's gonna get run over.

We're going out in the wheelchair is gonna get run over. I'm not gonna run everybody over, Tommy.

Well, Tommy came running past him and then had to like, stop to avoid him because the guy couldn't get out of the way and time.

I just thought the. The phrasing of what you said was funny.

No, I know. As soon as. As soon as it came out of my mouth, I was like. That just sounded weird.

Like, dude in the wheelchair is getting run over.

Yeah.

This crowd's hot.

First time. He's gonna drag him all over the building.

Some old lady in the crowd.

I didn't see it. Him with a Powerade.

Yeah.

That dude looks. You don't want to deal with that dude no, you know what I'm talking about.

Yep. Yeah. Not the kind of dude you want to with.

He did not belong there. He might have some girls in his basement.

This match doesn't count. Oh, don't count.

Match don't count.

Yeah, good old Philly grammar. I think the guy's wearing a Bruins jersey, which makes me feel. Feel sad.

This match do not count. Do not count. This match.

This match do not count.

If you can't get along, you got to get it on.

Oh, oh, oh. That was. If you can't get along, get it. What was it? What do you say, Jimmy?

You can't get along, you gotta get it on.

Yeah. Classic line. Look at that dude dressed as Raven. Right on the side of Raven. Yep. He's got the shorts, he's got the shirt hanging. I think he even has knee pads on. He does.

And a leather jacket.

Funny thing is, he looks. The funny thing is though, he looks like Tommy Dreamer. Yeah, he had a Tommy Dreamer haircut and like a goatee. All right, this is the kind of match I want to see. Not that the fans in. In the front row are happy about it, but hey, too bad we paid.

$30 for these seats. And I. I ain't seen dick yet.

Old school. The other eagles nest.

Yeah.

Got a vip up there.

P. Driver here on the table.

Nope.

A reversal. Yep, reversal. Table didn't break though.

The table didn't even break. The leg buckled.

A little nightmare stiff.

Yeah, it bent the table leg now, so it's kind of lopsided.

Gonna have to jump off something to break it.

Yep.

Oh, Tommy does the spot though. He dives through that. Hurts for a splash. Raven moved. Oh, yeah, he definitely hurt himself there.

Yeah, he. His elbow up.

No way you don't hurt yourself on that. This is jack off with the khaki shots. Posing next to Shane Douglas. Look like an old school Patriots jersey over there.

Yeah, it did. Yeah.

Look at these 10 year olds.

There. Jesus. And then this. Some.

Some they got that backpacks on.

Yeah, like, hey, a fake.

Little fake. Little. Yeah, little meanie. This up guy in the blue. You see him, his hair all straggling. He's like trying to avoid getting hit.

Yeah, he. He definitely has some girl in the basement.

Back to ring S. Oh, there's the MSG guy. Vladimir's buddy. Yep, I like that guy. WWE had a little segment on him on the network at one time. It was like an eight minute thing talking about his adventures going to the Mass Square Garden shows and.

Oh, no kidding.

Yeah, this was before that Vladimir. There's Vladimir, right?

Yeah. Super fan Vladimir.

Yeah, yeah. And that was before the dude documentary. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

John LeClaire jersey. Flyers.

Yep.

John LeClaire.

Yep. That's what the guy in the Flyers jersey has on. It's a John LeClaire jersey. He's got a.

You're always there breaking. Oh, because Jerry Lawler was there that night.

Kay Fabe.

Yes, I know. There you go. Yeah, I should have, should have held off on that one. Is that a vault? This? Oh it is. Is it?

Cast iron vending machine is what Joey said. The they selling snack bar is the snack bars right there so. Oh, that didn't look fun. There's a Coke Eric Lindross jersey too.

Season. If they fight as hard as these two guys, they may actually beat the Cowboys.

I wouldn't bet on that.

I wouldn't bet on that.

He's talking about the Eagles betting advice.

Yeah, Eagles, Cowboys. Cowboys, yeah.

In June.

Yeah.

We're months away from that. Intense.

I don't think they care.

Oh, that, that would be a memory. Like to be at one of these shows, but.

Oh, Raven grabbed the chair, I stuck out.

I would love it.

Yeah, no, I would.

Say this match has been all over the place. Now it's back in the ring. But the thing the whole time, these jack offs like Cassidy Bulla, they're just at ringside the whole time, just hanging out, waiting.

Yeah.

You know, they're not getting involved.

Which.

In a way is a good thing. Like hey, let them fight it out.

Right? Keep it, keep it one on one.

Now we got another one of these shitty plastic chairs. The worst ones.

I don't know what Raven has in mind, but if Dreamer takes another blow to the head like the last one.

This fight might suplex into this chair. Belly to belly. What do we think? Tommy's fighting him off.

Oh.

He broke that chair.

Oh my God.

What do they call it? A rocket launcher?

Yeah, yeah, I guess, kinda, I mean.

Yes.

Midnight Express Rocket launchers, sort of that, but.

The screaming like that. Hear that? Yeah, that's nuts.

Not exactly a big building either.

Oh, we gotta stop sign. Right.

Take out the ref.

Finnegan dead y. Do Not Enter. Oh, not a stop sign. We already stole the shop sign and they haven't replaced it so we had to, we had to take the Do Not Enter from down the street. Yeah. Oh, pile driver on the Do Not Enter.

That was beautiful.

Is that poetic? Do Not Enter. Paul driving through.

Yeah.

Do Not Enter. Wcw.

Look at this.

Jack off. Who the is this? Lupus this is Lupus.

That's Lupus.

DDT sucked, but hey, good. Good enough. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Give it to me, baby.

This is like pandemonium.

Dreamer.

It's organized chaos.

Yeah, it's cool. I like it. Yeah, just.

Just untie that. Just. Just pull that piece of clothing.

Oh, yes.

Just.

Oh, really?

Two.

Ah, only two A.

That would have been cool.

Oh, spray. Is that hairspray?

Yeah, spray.

Drop kick. One, one, two, Kick out.

Aquanet in the face.

Oh, bu. Is gonna up. Chastity.

Cat fight.

Here we go. Cat fight. Go that pitch now. Look at those ass.

Yes.

Oh.

Whoa.

Record's talking dirty. They had to beef him out.

Yep. O. I thought this was America.

This is miracle, people. Oh, nut shot.

Nice.

And a ddt over 1, 2.

No way.

This guy cena.

Oh, rough up now. What now.

Be funny if he just kicked out anyway.

Yeah, it's Louie.

Oh, Spicoli. Dressed like Tom and Dreamer. Boom.

While he's wearing the Buella T shirt.

Wake him up.

Think the snake is all pissed off this night. All these DDTs.

Let's go, Tommy.

Everyone's kicking out. Oh, DVD coming. Oh, ddt.

That looks stiff. That where that land. Steven flow.

Steven, flow.

You gotta watch that video.

All right. That would have been badass if Stevie Richards would have done that gimmick years ago. Oh, that valley driver dvd got ddts and DVDs. DVDs before they were popular. Yeah, DVDs didn't really take off until like, 98, right?

Yeah, yeah, in America. Yeah.

Yeah, in America. I don't think I got my first DVD play until 99. Yeah, it was 99.

Korean one. He did it.

Nice.

Nice. He got the win. Hell of a match.

Wow. That was actually a really good match.

It was.

That was one of the more.

Finally.

That might be my top five.

That was awesome.

Watch.

So far. It didn't overstay its welcome, right?

No.

Chaotic, but it. That was the blow off.

Sorry.

It's got a good. A little crazy.

A big story behind it.

All the lights went out something.

Oh, take her. Who the here? Oh, rv. RVD has come in.

And up Tommy wearing a Monday Night Raw T shirt.

All right, so we have somebody.

Lou's got. Got a Beulah in the corner.

Oh, Tommy fighting back against rvd. Give him a nutshot. Light's about to go out again.

Lights are out again. Lighter.

Yep. I'd be burning my finger if I was doing that if, you know. That's it. Sabu Chucks the chair. Tom and Dreamer. What the RV Dean said boo. Going to town on Tommy. Raven's like, okay, cool.

Raven's like, no, no, no.

I'm out of here. Lucy Coley molesting Bueller. Yep. No, we need. We need Taz choking Alfonsi.

Yep. All right, come on. Lets her out for a third time.

It's gotta be Taz now.

Gotta be.

It's gotta be Taz. Come on, come on. Oh, oh, it's Jerry Lawler. Lawler. Wow. All right, Jerry Law is there now. He's got the mic and you can't hear a damn. I can't hear. Come on. We need Taz out here still. So we get all the scrubs out now. Little Guido Axle.

It's not even Little Guido.

Who the Is that?

Chris Chetty? Maybe I didn't get a good look out. They just laying waste.

Jerk off. Well, that was. I love Lola as a real hill.

Minute. But.

But nothing in there but Mr.

Right here, baby. Hey, what about.

The team up? I never. We never wanted.

Yeah, It's a funny bill. Hey, let me. Let me say something. I'm immediately thinking J all I was like, what the you want, dude?

One guy's a crown. Yeah. From a bar. Apps and taps. Giveaway. Oh, getting up.

Who's that?

Is that a fan?

It's JV's favorite jack. Yeah.

Oh, look how pumped Villafonzo gets.

He's on the good stuff.

These guys are insane.

All the gangsters, not just new Jack N. Mustafa's here.

Jack, man. Mustafa.

He's not in jail today.

Calling out. Calling him out is like calling out like a kill streak in like Call of Duty. All right, comes out new Jack. He just kills everyone in the ring.

Surprised they stopped the music so quick.

You listen like a scissor hold.

Look at this, look at this.

Wow.

Oh, Tommy tackles Jerry Lawler. We'll talk about my slot like that.

This rules.

This is awesome. It is great match leading into this great aftermatch.

The great aches, a great angle. The end to end one feud and start a whole new.

Build a new one.

Yep. Still over 20 minutes left in this episode too. Like.

We got more matches and the.

Thing we just like 33 minutes in.

It's just been this kind of ironing board.

Awesome.

Just the top part, man.

Oh, Sandman's here. Now what?

The Sandman takes out his knees.

So he just starts beating him with the.

Wow. Oh, what a kick from Robin Dan to knock Sandman down. This is wild, guys. If you're not watching along with this, you need to watch it.

Yeah, this is a classic episode.

That's 30 minutes of ECW.

Yeah. This is some of the best stuff. Yeah. Always seen in a while, in my opinion. For sure. This is a great 34 minutes.

16, 34 minutes.

That rent. I don't know.

I don't know what that was supposed to be.

Yes.

525, 600 minutes.

Yeah, that's close.

Going for like those.

I do.

Yeah. Doesn't stop here. All right. Does Luis Macaulay have a boner? That was. Oh, here he comes. T's like, I don't need the lights off. I'm coming out right now.

Bill Alfonso's like, yo, this is Taz. He gonna everybody up. He might even rape your mother. Like, you know, like, he's just getting. He's just getting hyped.

Well, Jerry Law will probably call him A, though.

Yeah, I know.

You're only five, ten.

See, this is how you put over somebody. You. You have them lay waste to your entire locker room except the one guy that comes out last.

Yeah. And have them run over like we're.

All scared shitless of love.

Yeah, that's great.

Yeah.

And right into the break here with Tazish T shirt. Oh, man, they're hyping him up big time now. For sure.

Of course, you know this means war.

Ec, F and W. It's not for everybody. For everyone. Offer the faint of hearted 854-5831. Feels like my old phone number. Some similar to my number.

Yeah, that number does sound familiar.

I remember this. Yeah, now we're even getting old.

Yeah, this is from like a year ago.

Just the Aragom. Yeah, probably.

Well, it's hard. I believe it said it was hardcore. Heaven 96. Yeah.

And that was it. It's last summer.

Hey, Tags, calm down there. Human suplex machine. You did your job and ran the off.

You ran the off.

Calm the down.

Hey, Shane, Wait. Hold up, hold up. Shane.

Listen, brother. Don't you ever interrupt me while I'm talking.

Don't think I'm tight with you.

Yeah, yeah, like that yourself.

Just find your P and Q's and go.

That little rat.

You little rat. Oh, that's a good one. Yeah, I love Francine, but I can see why he might call her a rat.

Come.

There's the teeth. Another commercial that's pretty badass. And then they go right to a commercial. So ag haul coming up on June 13th. Taz is challenging Shane Douglas on this show right there, right?

Yep. Well, he's taking on Sabu first.

Tim Douglas gonna take on Sabo Yeah.

No, no, Taz is taking on.

No Taz is gonna take on Cyber. Pain is temporary. Pride is forever. Seven. All right, so based on what I'm looking at in the notes here, we have cross promotion angles, like I said, with a Lawler and Tommy Dreamer. There's some going on uswa, but it's looking like there's gonna be a Tommy Dreamer versus Jerry Lawler match scheduled for June 14th in Memphis. I don't know if that actually came to fruition at all. Check into that. But that'd be interesting to see if they actually had a match over there too, you know, over that. Rick. They actually have a match or.

I think they do not look it up, but. June 14th, is that what it.

Yeah, Fonzie. Oh, there we go. FY getting it. Dad's like, I'm not. I don't want to hurt you. So let me wait till Cyber gets here.

Yeah.

Of course.

Sabu takes too long to get there. All right, we got the match. Taz vs Sabu part 2. All in the same episode as what we've just been watching.

Oh, nice takedown.

This episode's like a pay per view.

Yeah.

So it's all the best we've been wanting to see.

So I looked it up and yes, on June 14th of 97, Tommy Dreamer and Jerry Lawler have a match.

In Memphis.

In Memphis. Yep, yep. For the, uh, the USWA Unified World Heavyweight Title.

Oh.

And let me see if it tells me where it is. It doesn't even say where it is. It just. It just says event. And then there will be another. There will be another match. Dreamers involved in two more matches in Uswa in 97. One in July and one in August.

Alonso wears a Monday night raw hat to the ECW Arena.

Got no class whatsoever.

Tip up. And Taz counter. Now it's Taz putting the boot to Sabu.

It doesn't take Taz. Anytime they even up the score, does it?

T has got to stay one step ahead of Taboo because his former manager, Phil Alonso, who knows many of his training secrets, is now in the corner of SAU.

And SAO's getting dominated here in this match.

Yeah, this is so far very one sided. Just a matte wrestling is just like.

Wow, that's locked. What do they call that? The red. Red hook lock.

Yeah, I've never heard that before. So this must be one of those things that we're gonna try to get over. And then they were like, no, we'll just. Just keep them. Yeah, we'll just keep him. Doing the. The slightly more safe suplexes.

Yeah, that looked like it was hurting Taz pretty. Pretty damn bad. His neck was, like, pretty up. Taz was the one that submitted on that.

Yeah.

He's like, yeah, this brother.

They wanted to get it on here tonight at Wrestle Palooza. Drop kick to the knee.

That was a smart move by Sabu, taking big Taz off his feet.

The new buckles, he can't pull those T. Exactly.

With no knee, he has no balance. With no balance, he has no leverage. And leverage and balance are the two most important things to a mat wrestler like Cass.

Has. Trying to walk it off on the outside. Takes a baseball slide to the chest.

He almost that one up.

That's a high risk maneuver. Why is so much room at ringside? Jesus Christ. About to punch a fan in the crowd.

Yeah, that looked a little aggressive going for the pin.

Something it knows about New Jack.

Yeah. Jumps the barricade to confirm. Confront the fan or something. I don't know if. I don't know if he actually assaulted the fan or just, you know, said all kinds of bad words to him, but.

Yeah, which is definitely not surprising. No, no, that seems, you know, status quo.

I mean, I think it's fairly safe to say he said a lot of bad words to him, but whether he physically touched him, too, I don't. I don't know.

Holding on for dear life.

This is an uninspired match.

Yeah, this is.

Nothing is happening. I mean. I mean, it's doing spots, but the. The story. All right, Taz says he's gonna take him out now. Doesn't look that great. He didn't even look that confident doing in the first place. Sabbath's fighting his way out.

All right.

S Flex, only two nice Northern Lights.

Duplex right there. Or taspl.

I like lis piccolo's northern lights better than taz's.

Yeah.

By the way.

The was that.

T's like, I'm not selling that. That sucked. Whoa, whoa.

Air Taz.

Air Taz. Yeah. What the was. He went up to the top row by accident. Nice leg drop by Sabu. Taz on the top rope. Like in a wrestling video game. You hit the buttons and you go up the top row by accident.

Yeah, it's mad annoying when that happens. Like, and you got to finish the whole animation.

You just have to jump off and fall on the ground. That's what Tes did.

Fonto like Apollo.

Creep, creep. All right, Sab and Taz up on a table very close to the corner. Well, this doesn't look good. Okay. I can't that up.

I guess that worked.

Did a little splash.

Yeah.

Did like a drop kick splash.

Yeah.

Oh, okay. He left him. He let himself open to. Oh, then no, that's. Taz got pinned. That was only a 2.

Now the refs, I think saying it's a. That was a three.

What the. So T jumped up from behind him, got him a thing. Sabu able to get his shoulders down. Ref counted three, right?

Yeah.

Yeah. All right, so Sav did get the three count. P is pissed off. So now he's going to. Everybody up with the choke out. The ref has mission. How dumb was Sabu though, to like. I mean, he ultimately won, so I guess it worked out for him. But he was just like sitting there like with his arms up with Taz behind him. What do you think is gonna happen? Right then of course, Taz jumped up behind Sabu or just got up, put him in the Hajime. Which remind me of like Jason V as a kid, jumping out of the water, grabbing the girl in part one, dragging her into the water. That's what he look like.

Yeah.

What the is this Micro Machines Joey?

What's going on here for 45 days?

Okay, I don't know what the that was about. All right, the Wrestle Paloa videotape is available. What a way to sell it, though. Give them. Give the people watching right now all that awesome and say, hey, order it right now. You can buy this tape right now. You're drunk and high right now. For 34 bucks, I'd be. I'd be on the phone, dude, I'm gonna get this first blues. This was awesome.

I think it's worth noting that this happened. This event was on June 7th. It was a Saturday, June 9th. Monday. Raven shows up on Monday. Nitro. So that's how. That's how quickly he left. He walked out the door, and two days later, he was on. On Nitro.

I'm gonna watch that Nitro.

Which one? What's your name on it?

6-9-97.

Okay.

We know what that day is. The Wonderland Greyhound Revere Mass show. Oh, they're still trying to get rid of those Raven shirts. Yeah, this is our last chance to get rid of these Raven shirts.

They're probably half price at this point. Buy one, get two free.

Yeah.

Cyber Slam.

What the was on cyber slam? 97. When the hell was that?

February.

February. Okay, I was right.

Wasn't that halftime of the Super Bowl?

What do you mean? No, you're thinking halftime Heat.

Oh, that's something Going to Be it.

Yeah. That was 99o.

She got a jumper on. She wearing styling. All right, so Kaz got another match. He's going for the gold. He wants the gold.

Minutes. He wants the gold.

I saw a leprechaun in the tree. Was Taz.

Who has seen the leprechaun say, yeah, yeah. And then he gives us look like Z. I told you.

Yeah, exactly. And I'm about to get a backhoe and uproot the tree.

This. This flute was handed down by my great grandfather who is Irish. He's holding a lead pipe.

It's the best.

Yeah. Gets down.

Douglas, that was dumb ass decision to go three minutes, Taz.

Now, Shane Douglas has been the TV. Has been the TV champion since heat wave 96, which was July of 96y so he's almost a year. He's had this for 11 months over 300 days.

One of the longest rainy up to that point.

I think so. Yeah.

Mel.

Y longing. 329 days.

329 days.

All right, wait, hold on. Yeah.

Tmission.

It's gone.

It's on.

It's on good too.

Yeah. He's got it locked in.

Well done. Over.

Douglas's legs are not long enough. He cannot reach the ropes. Less than one minute to go. Can the franchise hang up? Can he fight off the counter?

Shane Douglas has to feel that title belt slipping from his grasp as every second ticks off the clock.

30 seconds left, grandma. Franchise keeps trying to hook that leg. The franchise keep kicking it away.

He's back up to his feet. He's fighting off pretty good.

All right.

He. Oh, good. Good spot.

Yeah.

Shane Douglas went for that like that Brett Hart spot when Roddy Piper had the sleeper on him or when Stone.

Cold had had the dream.

But he just didn't get enough leverage when he kicked off the ropes. He got stuck in a cut that Res has wins the gold.

That was a nice finish.

And yeah, amazing. And how great was this episode?

Holy.

It's a great episode.

This. It's tough not to say this is not one of the top five episodes.

I think it is.

It definitely is one of the top five.

A complete episode of. Oh, my God.

That segment at the beginning might have been my favorite yet.

Which one?

32 minutes.

Oh, okay. The. The match and match and then the post.

Yeah, amazing. Great. I want to see more of the show. I don't know what. I don't know what's coming up on the next episode, but man, it's probably going to be a letdown compared to this. Yeah, man, they gave us all the good from Wrestle Palooza 97, I think. Tommy versus Raven Sabu Taz. Then Taz winning the title from Shane Douglas. Jesus Christ. Jerry Lawler. The whole post match we're talking about, man. Hell of an episode. So yeah, that was June 7, 1997. And if you weren't watching along with us, watch that episode, the June 10, June 10, 1997 episode. If you're watching it on Internet Archive, I think it's labeled June 10th as well on Peacock. Yeah, I can check it out. Watch that and. All right, well, we'll be right back with Dark Stream live cast wrap up. All right, we'll be back next time with more ECW hardcore TV. And guys, it's episode 100 of Extreme Live cast. Episodes.

Holy.

We've done many more with, you know, supercard specials and all that. But of just hardcore TV. It's episode 100.

Crazy.

We are episode 100. And we'll be covering hardcore TV 217 and 218 from June 17th and 24th of 1997. Okay, so that's that. That's what's coming up in a couple weeks. And on the bottom line, wrestling cast, we'll be covering late January 1994 for stunning Steve Austin. And then February of 94 on episode 21, covering the Thundercage match, selling Steve Austin. And other than that, we're just getting some plugs real quick here. And you follow me on X at MPRUA 3. Call JV at John Van Damage, follow Rick BB at Leo Y85 and also follows at Extreme Cast. Man, what a great episode, guys. Anything you want to say before we head on out?

I got nothing.

Baby. No, I'm good, I'm good.

All right.

All right, guys, listen, this Happy New Year. See you in a couple weeks. So long.

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