Just being in this miserable piece of. Oh, my. We're not a wrestling organization anymore. We're the world's damn biggest puppet show. I don't need a weapon.

My hands are my weapon. Weapons.

Quote to Raven.

Nevermore. I'm pregnant.

The era of the ecw. I have something to say to you. Welcome to the Extreme ECW Live cast. And we are back and we are covering ECW hardcore TV episodes 185 and 186 from November 5th and November 12th of 1996. I'm Mike Prue, joined this Week with Rick BB. Rick. BB how you doing, man?

Pretty good, Prue. How you doing?

Good. Hanging in there. We are now into November, and, man, it's a November to remember in 1996.

Certainly is.

And I'm gonna have a whole lot of Guns and Roses singing come and go over the next few episodes.

Yeah, especially. Especially given when we get to November to remember.

Well, we're gonna hear. We're gonna hear the song over and over again throughout these episodes.

Yeah, Right. Yeah.

Sorry. That's it.

It's okay.

I'm gonna hold. I'm gonna. I told. I told this. I told the whole crew. I told you I'm gonna hold off on saying the songs. No.

Yeah. You said you were gonna do the William, right?

Yeah. When I look into you. Yeah. So now I'm gonna do. When I look into your eye. Yay. Yes, I can see you lonely. Whatever the.

Yeah.

Anyway. But yes, we're in November. It's November to remember. And, hey, we just left November. Here we are in December, covering this here in 2023. And I hope you all had a great Thanksgiving. Rick, you had a great Thanksgiving, right? We just popped off offline here.

Yes, I did. I did. We. We did. We did discuss how our Thanksgivings went and other. Other things going on in our lives.

That's right. You know, which in itself could be its own podcast. Sure.

Yeah. It should have been a mini episode.

We're gonna have like a Patreon. Patreon Plus. If you want the plus of Extreme Life Gas, then. Yeah. Yeah. You gotta pay an extra dollar.

Right.

You gotta. Because we've had some over the. Over the past year, and that's something. Rick.

Yeah.

This is almost a year for you.

I know this. It was. But it was just about a year ago that you guys were. Hey, you know, you can always record something for the. The qc. You know, create a qcc. Record it instead of just tweeting us.

Right? Yeah. That started with the start of 1996.

Yeah.

So we're almost wrapping up 96 and. All right. So anyway, you guys, thanks for coming back. Btt, army and future listeners listening on the free feed a year later, which makes no sense to everything we just talked about about Thanksgiving or whatnot. But yeah, thanks for coming back, guys, and glad to have Rick on here. JV is taking, taking the episode off here. JV is going to be back and he's going to be covering November to remember coming up on the next couple episodes. So it's me and Rick here and we got you covered here for some great action covering November 5th and 12th, 1996, leading up to November to remember. And let's just get right into it, like. And this is like, seems like a new segment. It's almost like you reckon in the previous episodes where Rick always had like comments or statements to make and now we got Ben Martin.

We do.

Ben Martin has some questions and we love that. That's what we want. Like we could have a whole segment on questions and whatnot. So we're always happy.

That'll be part of the Patreon. Plus there's a whole, whole segment of questions.

So Ben Martin reached out last week and you know, previous weeks and we always like to respond to anybody that has a question. And Ben Martin has been a great follower, great listener. And Rick, he, he sent you something direct.

So he did. First, first, first let that, that the question that we had answered last week. Well, last episode was not last week. He had, he kind of clarified after the fact, after listening to it, about what he meant in terms of if ECW in 95, 96 had been able to get on cable, things might have been different or whatever. And what he had been meaning is that as some of you may or may not know, in 1999, ECW gets on TNN for about a year. But what ends up happening is that they have to kind of tone it. Excuse me, tone it down a lot in terms of some of the things that they do. So he was meaning, like the stuff that would have been on cable would have been toned down compared to the hardcore TV that you and I watched at 1:00 in the morning. And I think it, to an extent, yes, maybe that would have, it would have been different, but I don't know that the different would have been good because part of you can agree or disagree with me on this, but part of the, the allure of ECW was it was different from WWF and WCW at the time. You know, you didn't have in well, and I guess in WWF at this time, like November of 96, you had sunny, you know, the. Soon to be going to jail Sunny and long time. Yes, long time and well deserved. But anyways, she, you know, you had her and Sable and, you know, like hot girls, but you didn't have, you know, Beulah and Francine, and they're especially Francine out there, you know, half naked. You didn't have that on. On the mainstream wrestling. And that's kind of the allure of DCW was that you had, you know, half naked women and crazy violence and rock music.

Rock and roll, right.

Yeah. Sex, drugs and rock and roll. And if you had to. If you had to put it on, you know, USA or TBS or whatever network in 1995, 1996, and. And strip all that of you, you'd have. You'd have 1993 ECW from the Cabrini Field House at Cabrini College. You know, that kind of stuff where it would just be so neutered, as you said, or so sanitized that it wouldn't. It wouldn't be fun. You know, you wouldn't. You wouldn't have that. Like, it wouldn't. It wouldn't work. And that's my opinion. But, you know, that's what he asked for, so. But in. Yeah. So Ben today, earlier today, sent me a message asking if I listened to a certain podcast. It's Live and In Living Color or Live and in Color by Wolfie D. Wolfie D from PG13. You. You want to explain PG13? Pru.

Okay, yeah, well, PG13 was a tag team that was from the USWA United States Wrestling Association. Right. Is that what it's called?

Yeah. Also known as Memphis.

Yeah, right. Memphis Wrestling. It was.

Yeah.

Not getting into the whole history of Continental whatever the. But yeah, so Jerry Lawler, blah, blah, blah, Jarrett's. And PG13 was made up of Wolfie D and JC Ice, and JC Ice was the son of Bill Dundee. And then you had Wolfie D, which I always. Which always tricked me because I thought, oh, he's Wolfie D. He's got to be Dundee's kid. Right?

Right.

But no, wrong. I was wrong there. And they were kind of like just, you know, the white boy rappers.

They were. They were Enemy before Public Enemy was Public Enemy. Yeah, well, in a way.

Same time. Same time.

Yeah. It was 90. 93 is when they formed. When PG 13 formed, but basically, same time. Yeah.

Yeah. Public enemies 93 as well.

Was it 93? I thought they thought they were 94.

Late 93.

Okay. All right. So. Yeah, so, yeah, yeah, about the same time. And very, very similar gimmicks too. Right?

It makes sense.

Like rap and act. Act like different.

Rap is cool. Rap is cool. White people like rap. So. Hey, we're gonna make a white rapping tag team. Yeah. So.

Yep. You better watch out or they'll bum rush your mother.

Hey, you snuck it in too early.

Damn it.

We're gonna save that for some nation of domination. Nation of domination talk there.

Yeah.

All right. Anyway. You bum rush to joke, man. Come on.

I did bum rush to the jokes. Sorry, I was a little too eager for that.

All right. Yeah, well, no, you didn't, because we don't talk about anything before the show starts.

Yeah, it's true.

Script in here. Yeah. But I did want to say above Russian mother. Nation domination. Rick stole my joke, man. What the hell's going on here? Well, all right. Anyway, you are.

You are free to sing a little bit of November Rain and. And, you know, punish me for that.

So. Do you mean I can look into your eyes?

Sure.

No, I don't want to do that either.

Yeah, that's. That's weird.

That's weird.

Yeah. I might have to stop being on the show. All right. No, so. Yeah, sorry, sorry.

All right, so that's PG13. They're in USWA, the tag team. White rappers.

Yeah. They show up in WWF a couple of times and they'll eventually. Well, in about a year. They're not in a year, but next year 97, they show up in ECW. And that leads into what Ben's question was, is.

Oh, go ahead, imagine nation domination. Well, we didn't explain that they were actually the fucking hype boys for.

Yeah, they were. Yeah, they were the very. The very first incarnation of the nation of domination. They were part of it for, I don't know, a couple of months or something until they realized that we probably shouldn't have a militant Islamic, you know, black Muslim group with two white guys in it.

I think that made them, like, you know, accepting.

Well, yeah, no, I'm not. I'm not disagreeing.

But is that eventually Owen Hawks in the damn nation?

Well, that's. And actually, wait a minute. That. That's true because they had. They had Crush and Savio Vega in there. Right? So.

Okay, well, I. I understand Savio, but I don't know about Crush.

Yeah, he's. He's Hawaiian Brahman.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Because Hawaiian's big minority, you know, was Brian Adams.

No, Adams. Right, yeah.

Brian Adams.

Yeah. Was he really Even from Hawaii?

I don't believe so. I think he was. I honestly, I feel like he was from Florida. I don't know why that makes sense. I'm gonna look it up. I know one fun fact, so to speak. Brian Adams was trained by Antonio Inoki.

Oh, well, yeah. No, he must not give a. About training.

No, probably not. I'm trying to. I'm trying to look it up real quick to see Brian Adams. If he. Where he was from. He is from. Oh, no, actually, I'm sorry, I apologize. He. He was born in Hawaii.

Oh, okay. So he's from Kona.

He was from Kona. Yeah. So he actually is from. Well, I'm gonna say he's Hawaiian because he was born there. I don't know if his ancestry is Hawaiian or not, but very least they.

Weren'T military brat, probably, right?

They. They weren't kayfabe in the. That he was actually from Hawaii, so.

All right, all right, well enough.

Yeah. Getting. Getting back to Ben's question. So Bennett. Bennett said that because as we mentioned, well, Prue mentioned last episode there was talks of the Rock and Roll Express, Ricky Morton, Robert Gibson being brought in to feud with the gangsters into ECW. And he came up with the idea of, because PG13 will be in ECW next year, what if they had come over a year earlier in 96 and feuded with the gangsters? Like, what, what, what, what? What do we think of that? And I like it, but at the same time, I also kind of worry a little bit that it might have been a little too much too soon. And almost like it would. Depending on. Well, I guess depending on when they would have brought them in, it might have been seen as like they're trying to replace the Public Enemy with these guys because they kind of have the same shtick. And. And honestly, in uswa they actually use the same music that Public Enemy came into. So. Yeah.

Yeah.

But. Yeah, and that's a kick ass song. Yeah.

Use something different.

You're right. And that's why they do. I forget what they use, but it's not. It's not the same song in ECW.

And let me just bring up the name of PG13 too.

Yeah.

Even as a kid, I was like, PG13. That means you're not even cool. Like. Yeah, yeah, you're okay for kids to see, right?

Yeah, you're okay, right? It's like, it's like the name is cool itself.

But then when you think about the name, it's like, yeah, I want to be Triple X or Something, you know, like.

Right.

If you're gonna go with movie type, like, movie ratings.

Yeah. The rated R superstar worked great for Edge, because that's all right. I'm gonna. This girl live on RAW and show her titties off. But yeah, so I. I feel like, in terms of PG13 coming in, like, they can do brawls. You know, the. I mean, one of their big things that they. They would bring a hubcap to the ring and usually hit somebody with it. So it's not like the. The idea of a brawl, you know, with weapons was a foreign concept. I mean, even Memphis in general, that's where a lot of brawl and stuff happened. You know, the concession stand brawl from, like, was it 78 or whatever? So it's not that the PG13 couldn't have done a brawl with. With the gangsters or anybody, really. It's just a case of, like, Public Enemy was doing similarities. Yeah. And now you got these guys who are arguably more talented in terms of ability in the ring than Public Enemy. Not that I'm saying Public Enemy was bad, but as we've noted, they. They didn't work out too well in the other two because they weren't. They seemed better than they were in ECW. So I think if you brought Wolfie and J.C. eisenhower, it's an easy fit. It would have fit, but at the same time, how would the crowd have reacted? And I don't. I don't know.

Same all, like, right? Yeah, yeah, that's what it is. Like, I rather have the. You know, the Eliminators, like, something a little different. We don't need to have gangsta rappers against gangsta rappers, whatever the. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, that was the whole vibe of it. Like, oh, it's Public Enemy and the gangsters using a white wannabe rappers versus the gangsters, the black rappers, not even if they were rappers, but east. Yeah, that kind of.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's funny you bring up the Eliminators, because one of the things I was after Ben sent me the question, I was like, all right, I want to look at some PG13 just to kind of get. Get some ideas or, you know, kind of refresh my memory on them. And one of the matches I found was PG 13 versus the eliminators from, like, 1994. Oh, for that. For the USWA tag titles at, like, some. Some high school gym or whatever. Like, you know, it was like a. Like it wasn't their Saturday morning, you know, TV show. Actually, it might have been. Now that I think about it. It might have been at the Mid South Coliseum and it was just like empty, you know, like there was like very few people there in 1994.

That makes sense.

Yeah, but, but it was like, you know, the early Eliminators when, you know, Saturn had hair and Cronus had like that weird wallet with the side shaved.

Yep.

Yeah, but, but yeah, so thank you Ben, for, for your, your question or. And also for plugging our show because he did said that he sent in this question to Wolfie Deezer podcast and he plugged our show. Yeah. You know, in the email. So.

Right. So hopefully they take his question and then also mention the podcast as well. Not sure if that'll happen though. But hey, I appreciate the effort.

Yeah, exactly. Grassroots man.

Yes, thank you, Ben. And that's always been. Just keep, keep giving us those questions. We appreciate it.

Oh, we really do youo basically just.

Took over the whole opening segment so keep doing it, man. Helps us out. All right, with that said, we get some stuff to cover here, so let's get into it before we do that though. But the plugs, get the plugs on the X. Okay, next, Twitter Follow us at Extreme Cast Follow me Mike Pru at NPR U83 follow JV at John Van Damage and follow Rick BB at Leo Wyatt 85. Leo White 85. Also check out the Bottom Line Wrestling Cast, the Crib, Stone Cold Steve Austin, JV and I've been doing that for five years and at this point we're on a little hiatus, we're taking a little break, but it's intentional. We just wrapped up the Stunning Steve Austin first part. We did a little series of Stunning Steve Austin from his initial run starting in the wwe. I sound like Bret Hart in the.

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And once I, as I said last episode, once I finish 93 and pancreas, which is two more episodes, then I'm gonna do a little rewind and go back to 1984 and kind of actually we might even go past 1984 and go earlier and get some background on how, how the like shoot fighting, you know, hybrid wrestling, whatever you want to call it, revolution, so to speak, kind of kicked off like things that led up to it and a little background on it. It'll be a multiple part thing because as much as, as much as I'm sure you all love hearing me talk, I, I don't expect anybody to sit through four hours of me talking about, you know, Japanese Pro wrestling from 1960, 1970, you know, all in all in one, one fell swoop. But yeah, so that's, that's what we're looking at. You can follow me on X at Hybrid underscore cast.

Sorry to give it that plug on the X the X Twitter hybrid underscore cast. But man, I'm interested into that. I wanna, I want to hear about the 60s and 70s.

Damn sure. Yeah, yeah, it goes, it, it actually little teaser here. It goes back to Enoki and Giant Baba believe it or not. Like not really, but kinda. And how. Because them splitting off and forming New Japan and all Japan and just the difference in styles kind of guides us towards where we end up in 84 when certain people leave New Japan to, to form the UWF for the first time. Because there was two, maybe three if you want to count uf, UWFI as an incarnation of it. But also UWF caused all these splinter promotions that leads us to Pancras. So it's a long journey but like I said, I'm excited about it honestly. That's, you know, as much as I do love talking about Pancreas and doing a watch along, you know, for those of you that have listened to my, my QCCs, you can tell that I really enjoy doing research on wrestling. So I'm looking forward to having a nice, you know, Nice. Look through all this different historical stuff and, you know, obviously we'll highlight some matches and stuff, but yeah, I'm. I'm excited.

Oh, yeah, yeah, I'm excited. And I hope everybody else excited, please check out Rick's great work. You know, he does great work. So go over there and check out hybrid wrestling. But let's get into ecw. Hardcore tv. You ready, Rick?

I am ready.

All right, so we're gonna do November 5, 1996, and we are checking this out on the Internet Archive. So just go search Internet Archive and you'll find it. I don't want to run through the whole thing, but you can find it if you want to watch along with us. And if not, watch along. Well, listen along and we got the audio in the background. I think it works just fine that way too, sometimes.

It definitely does.

So. All right, let's get right into it. I'll give a countdown. Three down to one. I'll say play. When I say play, we all click play. 3, 2, 1, play.

All right.

All right.

Well, getting a recap of the end. Excuse me. The end of the show from last week, or, you know, last week, last episode, whatever.

Was Episode. Yep.

Yeah, yeah, yep.

So same man gave a hug to his boy Tyler, and then Raven comes in like a jerk off, nails him with a cane and ddt.

Right on the belt. Yep. And then this will lead, although they won't show it, this is eventually going to lead to the crucifixion angle that. So you can see Meanie going under the ring.

Right?

Yeah, it leads to the crucifixion. But they're not gonna show it.

Right. We talked briefly about that last episode as well.

Yeah. The footage out there.

Yes, the footage is out there.

Yeah. I haven't been able to find it, like, completely uncut, but I've seen video of the. Of them tying him to the cr. The cross, and then the barbed wire, thorns and all that, you know, so it's out there if you really want to see it. Yeah, it's for our sake.

We don't need to look.

Yeah, it's more of the controversy of it than. Than it really being, like, worth seeing. But, yeah, historically, it's. It's kind of interesting.

Yeah. Definitely worth taking a look.

Yeah.

So, all right, Raven's talking. Should we lay out or is this gonna be a thing?

I feel like it's gonna be one of those things. If we lay out, we're gonna lay out, and then he's just gonna end it.

Seconds. Yeah. All right. So they got Raven here cutting the promo.

They're working on their video editing and putting the sepia tone over it.

I was gonna say. Yeah. They got the sepia to possess another man's child. Raven thinks he's, like, the best stepdad of the year over here.

Yeah.

Yeah. I'm gonna raise your kid, dude. Do you want that role? Like, who wants to be the stepdad? I don't. Girl needs to have good enough, I guess.

Yeah.

It's part of the gimmick of the extreme cast. Sorry.

Yeah.

Hey, I've been in a role where I was potential stepfather. Yeah. I dated a girl. She had a kid already. That was interesting. Good stuff. But I'm glad it didn't work out.

Yeah. Yeah. I never. I never. I've never dated a girl with kids. Not. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Yeah. It's not that opportunity.

I'm glad I was like, all right, fine. I went on and another woman had my own family.

Right.

It's admirable for a man to take on another woman's kid.

Oh, absolutely.

Or for a woman to do the same for another man, I guess.

Yeah, I think. I think it's admirable as long as you. As long as there's, like, you know, everybody's comfortable with it.

Right. All right, here we are. We'll move away from family ship. You got Joey Styles here, so we.

Got JV right here.

And they're in Middletown, so. Yeah. This is one of the points I wanted to make here is that a lot of these matches are going to be from Middletown, New York, from the November 2, 1996 show. Basically a little house show. But they. They recorded a lot of matches that they're gonna use during the next two episodes. Rick, did you take a look at any of the observer notes today?

No, I have not. I. I tend to not do that beforehand because I kind of like, not be surprised, but, you know. All right.

I just wanted to.

Yeah.

Check in on it because then I'll. I'll bust out some information later. All right, so Shane Douglas has a bounty on pit bull number two. Why can't he go just him up? Not strong enough.

No kidding.

All right, this is the Pittsburgh Steel Team. And prior to the episode starting, I talked to Rick. I was like, who the. The Pittsburgh Steel team? It's like, I don't know.

Yeah.

So who the. Out. The. Nobody's right people? Number two is just.

They don't look like anybody that I know.

They look better than some guys that were working WWF at the time.

Oh, yeah.

At least they're thick bodied. Oh. They said they care so much about this match that Francine's titties pop in and Shane Douglas starts talking.

I didn't even know Shane was talking.

I know.

Look at that tummy too. That thing's flat.

Which one? Shane's. I'm looking at.

Oh, I, I now, now that you mention it, yes. Shane isn't a, is a very fit man. But I was, I was, I was looking at Francine's.

I know. I'm just in love with Shane. Sorry.

Yeah, there you go. You, you can be in love with Shane. I, I'll keep my love of Francine. And we're all, we're both happy. She just.

Look at Joey. Look at Joey's face, though. Look at.

He's disgusted. He's disgusted, but every time he turns away, it's like, I'm trying to look at her tits, but I don't, I don't want her to catch me.

It's like, what would be great is she just motivates them. Ah.

Then grabs it and grabs his face and just. Oh, see, he just pulled her so her tits went right into his arm.

Yep. Joey's like, whacking off later. Anyway, sorry.

Hey, that, like you said, that's the gimmick of the extreme live. We say a whole bunch of horny, perverted stuff. Because that's exactly what you and I were probably thinking in 1996 when we were watching this.

Right? Exactly. Yeah. It's funny. We can go from, like, such mature adult conversations before the podcast and then start talking like maniacs.

Yeah, right. We just degenerate into being, like, 12 again.

Right. That's why. You see, Let me. Dusty. It does.

Fart jokes and boobies is basically what, what makes you laugh when you watch ecw.

All right, so his Brian Lee. What the hell, man? Brian Lee's up. Pitbull too. Shane Douglas. Shane Douglas wearing his tassels to cover up his shitty ass.

Calves tassels in the massive knee pad that. It's like a knee and calf pad.

Is sack too.

I wasn't looking that closely, but okay.

Well, I'm just continuing on with my Shane Douglas love right now.

Oh, yeah, apparently nothing wrong with that.

Seinfeld episode. Something wrong with that.

Oh, remember, remember those chairs, Pru, when you go, like, to someplace and they had those. They're the flimsy, shitty metal ones with the plastic that, like, you feel like you're gonna break them when you sit down on them. Even Though you weigh about like a hundred pounds.

Like that one right there, that's folded up.

Yes.

A little shitty yellow chair.

Yep. Oh, the orange one right there, that comes into view. Yeah. Random box trucks. And inside.

That's why nobody. That's why nobody sat in the chairs.

Right.

They're all just there.

Now he's bleeding on the side of that truck.

We got a truck in the building?

Yep.

Hey, What? The blue meanie come out of nowhere?

Yeah, he did. Why. Why are they all together like. They're not if the franchise is affiliated with Raven. Now give me the starter jacket.

All right, we're going up to the Eagles Nest. Apparently, Eagles Nest, it's not even top of a truck.

Yeah, I was gonna say it's. It's that giant fan.

They got a production truck in the building.

Yep.

Makes sense, though, because if you look to the left, that's a garage.

Yeah. Yeah, you're right.

Garage door.

Yep. Oh, Nova's down there, too.

Oh, man, we got some crazy.

Oh.

Oh, my God. Here comes Brian Lee, the Pitbull. Top of the production truck. We got tables set up. Down through three tables. Who set up the tables?

Somebody threw a drink on it.

Yeah. Pitbull 2 goes through the tables, and then a dude just throws his whole bear in his face. Hey, how do you like that? It's some insult or injury.

Yeah.

Hey, Shane Douglas is actually checking on.

Yeah, he is. He's making sure he's okay.

Yeah, yeah, but now he's putting on the phone. Nelson. All right, I gotcha. These referees are tripping over each other.

Yeah.

Oh, Tommy. Here comes Tommy all of a sudden. Tommy has always just looked like his whole time wrestling other than actually when he had the. The Shitty Chippendales outfit. He actually looked like a wrestler back then, but from after that, he just looked like he was an agent all the time.

Oh, for sure. Yeah.

This comes running upstate New York. All right, so we're getting some ads here.

Yeah, they're advertising Extreme Warfare, Volume one.

Oh, God. Who's the best one? Yeah, who's the one that shows the. The asses.

Yep.

Kimona's ass.

Yeah, but this. This one does show this. The cat fight.

Oh, the cat fight. Oh, yeah.

Francine and her. Her pink panties.

They're gonna say something else.

Well, there's some other pink stuff there, too, but they. They don't. They don't show that on the home video.

All right, so, ECW, November 15th, as JV would say, is going to be at the Lulu Tempo.

You want.

Duck sauce?

Return challenge Chris Candito versus Spike Dudley.

November tomorrow, the fourth annual 93. 94. 9596.

Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, didn't edit this.

Nope.

All right. Every new for that ass. 1, 2, 3. I'm singing I gotta shut up. I gotta get down Tonight the line was crossed. 94. We're going back to 94.

Yep.

This.

See, they're looking for people to buy the video so that they can have money history. Yeah.

They were like, oh, this is how he started. Oh yeah, they know what they're doing.

Yeah.

Yeah. Buy this old.

Mike. Awesome. Damn near breaks J.T. smith in half.

Yeah. Almost broke himself in half too.

Yep.

Fat Chick thriller.

Yeah. The career. Yep. Yeah, he was, he was the career killer and then he became the Fat Chick thriller. Yep. And he was also that 70s guy.

Yeah, that 70s guy. Well, that 70s guy was the Fat chick thriller. Right, Same thing.

Yeah. Yeah, I think. Well, it was one of those things. I didn't watch WCW religiously at that point, but I feel like it was like one week he was the fat chick thriller and the. And the next week he was that 70s guy or vice versa. Like they're. Yeah, like they're just throwing at the wall.

Hey, good for him.

Hey, I'm sure he made good money. So he's dead now, but. Well, think of wcw. They were. They were signing guys to this million dollar contracts for no. No reason. You know.

Shane and Francine doing here. Joe is all worked up looking at ambulance. Yeah. Pit bull sucked. Always get up.

And as we've noted before, they're really not going to do too much after this, unfortunately. I mean, they'll still be around because.

In reality they weren't that good.

No, they're. Yeah, it's like you can say about a lot of people from ecw. Paul knew how to hide their weaknesses.

Yes. Public Enemy program in middle leagues above them. It's not bad. It's like they're fine. They're. They're, they're staying in ECW is just fine. Yeah, they're not that really good.

No, they're. They're good at what. They're good at what they can do.

Right. I feel the same thing with a gangsters gang. It's a sock too.

Yeah, they are. They're not, they're not great. They're. They're good at what they do. They're. New Jack is good for brawling. I mean, I'm not saying New Jack.

Couldn'T use a good brawler because I watch a match with him. It's like I don't know the. He's even doing. He's not doing anything. He's not doing any wrestling.

He's good at hitting people with weapons. How's that sound?

Yeah, that's it.

Yeah. Mustafa is good at the power stuff. Like, you know, I mean, we talked about that running power slam he does to set up the diving headbutt. That's a beautiful thing. Like, he's really good at it. He knows exactly how to do it, but other than that, he's just kind of there.

Right?

Look. Looking crazy.

I was. I was gonna say a phrase. Yeah. I don't even think it's impolite, but I think it is pretty disrespectful for how I'm gonna use it. The gangsters are just noise, if you get what I mean. Yeah, just noise. They're just taking up space, you know what I mean?

Yeah.

Like.

Yeah.

I. I think I said it in a previous episode. They were good in Smokey Mountain. They weren't good in ecw.

Right, right. But I mean, part of the allure of them in. Not allure, but part of the thing of Smoky Mountain is not only did they have good teams to wrestle, you know, the Heavenly Bodies, the Rock and Roll Express, there were outsiders, but they also had the heat that right there. They don't have to have five star matches because the heat on it is just going to be off the charts and it's going to make the match feel more important than it actually was. Or good.

Right?

Better than it actually was.

Right. They don't have the same heat in ecw because Philadelphia. Yeah, we know black people. Black tax team's not something new. I mean.

Yeah, yeah, there's, there's, there's more black people in Philadelphia than there was in, you know, like, what's. Oh, what's that place in West Virginia they used to. The Smoky Mountain used to go.

I don't know.

Beckley. Beckley, West Virginia. Yeah.

And obviously. Yeah, Beckley, West Virginia.

Yeah. So the, the idea of two black guys coming in to the ring and beating up two white guys was not a foreign concept in Philadelphia.

Right.

Yeah. That was a nice spine buster by Luis Bacoli.

Yeah. And that's. I wanted to transition to that, but we got a damn good match here.

Furness tried to do a kip up and kind of it up, but versus McCauley. Yeah.

Hey, Paulie must have loved Spicoli because he's just spotlighting him every episode.

Huh?

Every episode Spicoli has been. Is on in, like, the last four weeks.

Yeah. And the thing with Spicoli, as mentioned before, he's good. Like, he's, he's much, he's much better than most of the guys that are in this. He doesn't look it, like, look wise. He's just kind of bland. He's kind of pudgy, you know, looks like his hairline's receding, but he, he can go.

He's just shitting all over him.

Hey, I'm doing this. Yeah, I'm doing the Stewie. The Stewie Griffin compliment sandwich. All right.

Finish this sandwich.

He's a, he's a very, he's a very good wrestler. He doesn't look like he would be. He looks like he would just be the chubby jobber.

But the mustard. Where's the mayo? Give it to me.

But what ends up happening is when he gets in the ring, he, he's, it's like, holy shit, this guy can go. You know, he's, he's, he knows exactly what he's doing. He knows to be in the right place at the right time.

He's a pro.

Yeah, he's a pro.

And I mean, he's a pro amongst non pros, really.

Right. And at this point, he'd been, he'd been wrestling for.

Since he was 18. Yeah, I was gonna say he wrestled since 1989.

Yeah, I was gonna. He'd been wrestling for like seven, eight years. So he been doing this on a, a non national level. And then he did the Rad Radford thing, but he wasn't, you know, the Click didn't like him, among other things, because he had, you know, well, he had drug problems and stuff too, so we won't complain.

I wonder how much his problems were in wwf. I, I probably had him at that time.

Yeah. Because the way, the way that I've always heard it is that he had them in wwf and that's part of the reason why he, what, he ended up leaving wwf. And then he comes here and he. It. It's a, it is a problem. It will be a problem. But he's still, I mean, he's still around into 97, like, not trying to spoil anything, but there he goes.

Wcw and yeah, he's in the Larry's.

Abisco cleans himself up a little bit in WCW and then falls off the wagon and dies. So I hate that we have to say that. You know, I know that I, it always has to end with. And then he died. It's. And, and sadly that's not. He's not going to be the only one that we say that about, unfortunately. I mean, if we're being honest, John Finnegan is the only guy in the ring right now that's still alive. And that's not to say that Doug Furnace died a horrible. You know, he wasn't Louis Piccoli overdosing, you know, choking on his vomit in his sleep.

Well, he. He shouldn't be dead at this point.

Right. And well, Doug Furness ended up getting dementia or Alzheimer's and had a heart condition too, I believe. So way too young for any of that.

Right. All that sounds absolutely ridiculous. Happened, right. The age that he was.

Yeah.

Dementia. Jesus.

Yeah, or something like. Something like that.

Well, it's wrestling, man. Right?

Yeah.

Oh, oh, there it is. McCauley hits the.

That was. That was like a Randy Orton Death Valley.

Death Valley driver out of nowhere.

Yeah. Then he collapses on some guy's lap.

Dvd, dvd. How come that never get over dvd?

Do not know. Should have. Going back to the Lulu again. That would be a. Oh, that would be a good match. France franchise versus Louie.

Oh, yeah, I want to see that. Yeah, we need to go to Lulu Temple.

November 15, seven years ago.

Give me some petroleum. No, not petroleum. Give some plutonium.

Petroleum.

Petroleum. Yeah.

Give some gas. You're getting ready for a date there. Proof.

Give me some petrol.

Yeah.

I was trying to do a back to the future joke that I already.

Yeah.

Quote the Raven. Never more raven. What a lame ass. I hate that. So stupid. Raven.

Oh, did I tell you? Did I tell you? I've. I've been looking for that SABU shirt. You know the. Yeah, I found. I found $1,200. I'm not kidding, I'm not kidding. It was on ebay.

Oh, good.

It was 1200. All. I'm like, it's a 27 year old T shirt that God knows where it's been. I'm not about anywhere near twelve hundred dollars for that fucking shirt.

Right?

I don't care if it would guarantee that I'd get laid. Like, that's way too much money.

I can guarantee you won't get laid wearing that shirt.

Right.

You're better off looking like Joe Gartner right now. Getting laid. Like, yeah, walk up like, you probably get real cred from a girl like, oh, that guy has the balls to just wear a suit jacket with no shirt underneath and a bow tie. I'll bang him. He's got confidence. Yeah, but we're in that SABU shirt. Nobody wants to you.

Nope.

No, like I said, Last episode I have. I'm gonna get that shirt made for us.

Oh, yeah.

I got the screenshots for both front and back. You can make your own shirts. Whatever. I'll do it that way. I'm not paying. Who the would pay $1200 for some raggedy ass shirt?

Not me. Because it's not even like it's a collectible thing. Like, it wasn't like Sabu wore it or something.

Oh, right. Just make a replica of it.

Yeah, yeah. I found somebody on Etsy was making replica BWO shirts, but they only had like one. Like. Like you can't just make them on demand, you know, Only have one.

What the. You mean?

It's like. It's a simple design.

Unless they only have the one shirt itself.

Yeah, but I mean, I don't know. I swear it was. Well, but I would think this is me. I would think that if you had an original BWO shirt, that you wouldn't be charging like 20 bucks for it or 25 bucks for it, you know, to sell it. Like it. That's why I'm assuming that it's reproductions. Oh, he. We just missed some poetry, I think.

Yeah, we did.

Yeah.

And Joe Gurner starting to spit here.

Yep, he's spit. He's spitting rhymes and bragging.

Joey's like this guy.

Yeah, Joey's no selling it.

Yeah, him two's gone to the hospital.

Immediately. Given an mri. We hope to have an update.

Rick, don't be proud of me because I never jumped into that. Guns N Roses.

Yeah, I noticed that.

Joey, what's your disdain for everything? A boy on commentary. So mad about everything. Yo, I'm so mad when wrestlers are mad about things.

Yeah, he's.

He's a. He's a champ. He's long time champion. I hate him.

He's a reprehensible human being. Okay.

So jealous of him being able to have Francine's titties.

Right?

They could. They could have been sued for that.

Oh, they absolutely could have, but they didn't give a. I mean, they're. They got. They're playing just like with the music. They're playing licensed music without license. Right? Being like, whatever.

What are commercials? We gonna get here before I know. Available soon from their merchandise calendar. Pit bull T shirts, pimple T shirts.

Official. No, they misspelled official.

Official. I saw the last second official. Oh, attention. Worked right in. Also, they're just doing. Going back to 94. This is good. Ron Simmons, Shane Douglas.

Damn.

Damn. Oh, here we go. Now we're back to modern day.

Yeah.

Hey, Pitbull, how's your neck? Joey, go yourself. Shane Douglas is the man.

Yep.

And damn, is the Francine. And she's walking. Yeah, she's walking. I'm walking here. I'm walking here.

Her legs are so skinny. That's. Wow.

Yeah, she's. Well, she's thin.

Yeah. No, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it. I'm just making an observation of how. How thin her legs are. No, that's a nice ass.

I hate to objectify women.

Right.

I guess. Well, we're talking about a wrestling podcast here.

And. And we've mentioned this before. Like, this is just. We're getting in our mindset. Well, we're getting in tune of how it would have been in 1996. Like, you would have been slightly objectifying her. And that was the point, you know, that she's out there dressed like that. That was kind of expected, you know, and it. And by no means will be trying to be disrespectful to. To Francine by saying anything she is today.

Right, right. Who she is today has nothing to do with what we're talking about right now.

Right, right. And who. Who she is as an actual person as opposed to.

Right.

The character.

Character.

Right, right. Say in the same way that any of them, like we're saying, you know, Tommy Dreamer sucks. Well, I'm sure Tommy Dreamer, the person, is actually a decent person. Cool dude.

Right?

Yeah.

Right. Just.

The character sucks.

Yeah. I mean, we've been doing this long enough. I. But sometimes I like, ah. I feel like for whatever reason, I need to put a disclaimer, but. No, we. No, I don't know what I'm thinking. Shouldn't have to. We know what we're doing here. We're around. We're watching wrestling.

Yeah. Plus any. Anybody that. That's been listening to you guys, you know, since before I was on the show, they know that this is all just in fun. It's, you know, it's just for entertainment purposes. It's part of the gimmick.

Yeah.

This is not gonna feel good. I can guarantee you. Him getting him hitting that chair.

Oh, looks like it's set up pretty shittily.

Yep.

Probably gonna fall off before he even goes for the spot here.

Yep.

Oh, he nails it.

Yeah.

Baseball slide. No, that's not a baseball slide. That's a drop kick.

Yep. That was a low drop kick.

Baseball slide would have been if it was the lower level of the ring there.

Oh.

Oh, Francine. Oh, run away.

You Know what I just realized, Prue?

Yes.

You know where they are? Is Middle Town realized. Middletown. No, Middletown, New York. Right.

Yeah.

Notice what's not on the floor.

Oh, there's no.

There's no match.

Yeah.

Yep. Despite the fact the New York State Athletic Commission says there should be mats.

Right.

So good catch. Yeah. Apparently Middletown don't give a fuck. Oh, hello.

Nice.

Oh, that was. That was good. That. Yeah, that was good.

No, I was good. Shane Douglas.

Yeah, he sells it, right? He.

Yeah, he went complete full back drop. Boom. May look good.

Douglas for the ride.

Hey, but Tommy did a good job on that one too. Yeah, Shane just had a swing in that breakout. Right on the chair.

Right on the chair. Yeah.

Hey, I like to hear Francine actually giving some direction. She actually told Shane, hey, come on, let's go.

Oh, that was a beautiful pile driver too.

I was.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I don't think Tommy's incapable of. No, like, he's not a bad wrestler.

It's okay.

Yeah, he's just, he's. He's not, he's not capable of carrying somebody else to a really good match.

But come on, like, think Tommy Dreamer, Shane Douglas, like, Tommy Dream is lucky to be working with Shane Douglas.

Oh, yeah.

I don't know what Shane would think with that comment. He probably. Well, you. He was good worker or whatever. I don't know. But. But from my context, like, Shane Douglas has been everywhere. Wwf, wcw, work with Ricky Steamboat, work with Steve Austin. Like, this dude is a pro.

Yeah, he was in Mid south, right? Or the uwf, whatever you want to say.

And Tommy Dreamer's done, right?

Tommy Dreamer. Tommy Dreamer worked in New England as 1 1/2. 1/2 of a tag team that was two Chippendales guys with GQ Madison and he was TD Madison.

We haven't mentioned much from the observer and I'm just kind of scrolling through, there's not much to even really mention. No, I don't know, it's just kind of recaps of what happened on the shows. Yeah, we'll see. Maybe I'll look through something out there. Nothing special. I do like this match going on in the ring, though.

Yeah, it's. It's a good match, but then again, it's a Shane Douglas match, so.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Shane goes off the top of the rope, just goes up in the air. Yeah. Terrible drop kick from Tommy. Goes for a cover, gets two, sets up a chair. I was gonna do another. What is this? What's up with this shitty chair in the ring? The whole Match, like all their big spots is just. I'm gonna throw you on this chair. We got this ref here, Peewee.

That's Peewee. Yeah. John Peewee Moore. That wouldn't even hurt doing it on a chair. The guy doesn't make contact. His ass makes contact with the chair.

Oh, my. But hurts, right?

Yeah.

All right, so we're gonna interfere in this match. Hold on.

God willing.

Because this is Dragon. Why. Why was the Francine reaching out for Douglas there? Yeah, I was telling a letter. Have the hot tag want to come in? I'll Paul drive you.

Yeah.

Tombstone style.

Show off the panties.

Oh, it's Bueller. That's what we're waiting for. Yeah, look at France. I mean, look at Bueller's outfit, though.

I know. I see some cheeks just ahead of.

Her time with those shorts. I've said it before. Who?

Bu. Yeah, yeah.

She was wearing some nice shorts before they were in vogue.

Oh, yeah, there you go. You got your tombstone there. Proof.

Yeah, but I wanted like. I know your girl's face and a penis. Yeah, whatever.

Yeah.

Hey, I watch wrestling, so I get a lot of guys faces and penises, so.

Yeah.

Oh, Brian Lee's down here now. Oh, it's over. Single arm ddt. Tommy no cells gets right the up. Here comes Brian Lee. Oh, yeah. Whoa, Cool, Shane.

That was a good belly to belly on the ref.

Yeah, I was gonna say though, like, Brian Lee nails the spot. They did it, like, in tandem. Brian Lee hits Tommy Dreamer. Then Shane Douglas is nailing Peewee with a belly to belly, like. All right. Jane, you look so cool. You just beat up a little dude. All right. Prime time. He's got Bueller by the neck. Oh, Shane Doug was like, don't do it. Puts her in a full nelson.

Oh, look at. Look at those boots, too. I like those boots.

Yeah. Like I said, she's a man. You got hot. Better off it than Francine. Looks good as well. This is Mikey Mike. Get the out of here. Choke slam. Choke slam by faker taker.

Devin Storm.

Yep, Storm's over.

Oh, she just kicked him in the head with those heels on, Francine.

Yeah, Francine kicked Tommy to the head.

Here comes the Pit Bull Cream Team or whatever they're called.

The Pittsburgh Steel Crew.

Yeah, whatever.

It's like my silky Smoke.

Yeah.

What's his name?

All right, I gotta look it up because it was. That was like it. Oh, Slick Daddy Smoke.

Slick Daddy Smoke. Yeah. And that was Roman Reigns.

No. Yeah, yeah.

No, the other one.

Was. It was. That.

Was that Samu Yeah, his name was Silky Silk or something like that.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Soak the shocker. No, no, I know that. It was Sammy. Sammy the.

Wonder why I came up with the name I came up with.

Yeah, Slick Daddy Smoke sounds a lot better.

Slick Daddy Smoke. All right, so we just had a big show there, but fun nonetheless.

I think that was fun.

Yeah, the match sucked, Tommy.

It had its moments, but.

Yeah, it had its moments.

Yeah.

I'm actually surprised the match lasted that long. That's what happens when Shane Douglas is in the ring. He can make a match actually come to fruition. But we were right. People came in and put an end to that.

Yeah.

You know, Tommy's never gonna lose. What's the deal with that?

You gotta protect Tommy.

I don't know. Why?

I don't know.

Oh, they're building up Terry Funk.

Yeah. And. Yeah, because we're gonna have a barbed wire match soon. No, but Terry Funk as well. You're right.

And Terry's gonna be back by the new year. Oh, the original Bueller. Francine look that we just saw. Oh, Francine in that front row.

Those shorts. Shorts. Oh, there we go.

That was a good match.

Yeah.

Public Enemy and the Gangsters. I'm fine with that match. That's cool. My Uncle Rick.

Yeah.

Ted Petty.

Yeah. Yeah. I think it's. Honestly, it's a shame to me, it's a shame that that's what people remember for the most part of Ted Petty, because there's not a bunch of Cheetah Kid footage out there.

True, right? Oh, bug.

Plan of the franchise. Shane Douglas has become apparent. He's trying to break people's necks. Brian Lee. The fourth annual November to Remember. Saturday night, November 16, at the ECW arena in South Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, will feature a dream partner tag team match. It'll be the franchise and his new bounty hunter and collector, primetime Brian Lee against Tommy Dreamer. Now the game plan is apparent. There's only one man left that Tommy can call Sandman.

There he is.

Well, no, it's either Sandman or it's Terry Funk.

Terrafunk. Yeah. It's gonna be terrifying.

I think it's Terry Funk.

Definitely. That was so funny, though. They. They show Sandman. You got this, dude. It looks like he's wearing pajamas, but he's got a championship belt around his waist.

Yeah, he's got a. Yeah. With a butt in his mouth and a beer in his hand.

Like he just woke up. I'm a champion here.

Yeah.

Oh, man. Oh, Candido man. Nice. Love that move.

And then he does the push ups.

Yep, the body down of push ups. Oh, we're gonna get to that soon. Two parts we're breaking it up into, though.

Oh, yeah, yeah. It's a long show.

It's an extravaganza.

It's a happening.

It's happening. It's happening.

Jess, they're literally hanging from the rafters. No, no, they're not. Gorilla.

I'm going. Just give a shout out to Terry Tyrell and Jade.

Yeah. Catch the very first matchup between the.

Pit Bulls and the Eliminators. And these November to RS have been great.

Yeah.

Like this one and 95. And 95 is just available on the free feed. I mean, obviously if you listen to this, you've probably already listened to that, but if not, go back on the free feed.

Yeah. Or hell, even if you have, listen to it again. It's a good show.

We did it in two parts. That was the first episode we did in two parts for a supercar.

Yeah.

It's 95. Taz is gonna up tag on. Yeah, baby. I can't wait for more test. You'll learn a Taz. My favorite. As time goes on.

Ra.

Or I don't know, maybe I'll have a change of mind. Maybe I'll start saying he's a little bully or something. I don't know. I used to think I like Saboo, but that changed. They told me. I love how Shane Douglas never changed though.

Strongest wrestling.

All right, we got Shane Douglas talking to Francine. Let's take a listen here. Oh, never mind. Let's not take a listen. It's time for some Pulp Fiction promos.

Going under the bleachers. Yeah. Raven.

Ah, Raven and cpa. If your capacity for inter intellectual pursuit.

Was half as great as it is.

For alcohol, you would understand.

Okay, that was a good line.

That was a good one.

Rules and responsibilities.

These are the ties that bind us.

We do what we do reading from a comic book because of who we are.

Yeah. What the is that? V for Vendetta.

I was thinking it. I honestly, I was thinking it was Neil Gaiman. Sandman or gman. I don't know how you say his name. JV would know.

What is it?

Say it again. It's okay. I. Okay, the guy's name is. His first name is Neil and his last name is G A I M A N. I don't know if it's Gaiman or Gaiman.

I think it's Gaiman.

Gaiman. Okay, so Neil Gaiman's Sandman.

Oh, Sam. Yeah, yeah. That would make sense. That'd be cool. Yeah.

Yeah.

I think it's Gaiman.

Okay. Yeah.

JV would know better.

I don't think.

JV and Red. Same man. He would know.

Yeah.

Instead, look at the eliminates here. High school gym. You're welcome.

Cronus gonna cackle like Humarus.

Funny that. He becomes the Saturn, becomes the. You're welcome. And then Cronus was always the.

Yeah.

I just think they were just there from the beginning. Just goofs. That would suck.

Yeah. Like, he looks like a killer right there.

Right?

Somerville, Massachusetts. Says on Saturn's shirt.

Oh, yeah. Somerville Lumber.

Yeah, we measure up.

That's awesome.

It's something nobody's gonna get.

Yeah. We miss Europe.

Just like I doubt it.

You got to go through the Eliminators to get to us. As much as I should on New Jack, I want to listen to him. We hope the Eliminators win. Because you see, Eliminators, we owe you something. We do. We owe you a couple of receipts, son. You go this November, the gangster's gonna be here. Last November, we got suspended. This is gonna be one that everybody will remember. It could be our last match. But either way it goes, trust me, Eliminators, we gonna put something on you at this time. And I might kill Big fat kid next month. Going to be in jail after we get through dropping your ass down at the arena. ECW style. They might want to take us back.

This might be our last match. Yeah. If things go differently, it is going to be.

Control yourself, man.

Yeah.

Gangsters going to be standing up and eliminated. Going to be laying down counting lights in the ceiling.

We going to kick your ass. We going to kick your ass. It's going to be our night. You got Mustafa just going. Yeah.

So bow down. Oh, cuz, we're going to finish you off. Know what kind of conversation you can have with Safa.

Yeah.

Raven. What the.

Laying in the chairs with a trash can next to him I already.

Fragile soul but understand this, Sandman. I found redemption and salvation Move the arms of your son Tyler. Go ahead. Late at night hey, me child support demons come. You want to raise my kid. Do you dream of playing ball with Tyler? Of days past when the two of you would go fishing, we'd ride the swings at the park. Just hold each other in each other's arms.

At this point, Sandman, I guess you're.

Never sure if the nightmare is real. You cane yourself. But the memories are all that you feel.

He's not saying anything.

I know. I'm so sick of it. I'M trying to make sense of it. Like, okay, like, yeah, you. You want to raise your kid? Ah. You want to play ball? What are you talking about? The. Am I watching right now? What is this?

Is this, like, did somebody tape over the end of the show with, like, a Skinimax Soft Corp movie? I know that's Lori. Yes.

Laurie. Yeah. But it looks like she just took heroin or something.

Yeah, Raven with his hair net.

And.

All it cost us is a couple of dollars.

Tommy Dreamer. Oh, it's Undertaker. Breaking Badass. You know, they said Terry Gordy comeback.

Could not be stopped. Prime time.

Brian Lee took his ass out. They said the Pit Bull was indestructible. Sorry. Like, I had a tick.

I thought you were just trying to time it with the song.

I was.

Oh, okay.

I just want to explain, though. That's better than this Brian Lee shitty promo. All right, back to the titties. Oh, Shane. I mean, my game plan has been played to perfection. Francine's got an early poof going on there.

I was just thinking the same thing, dude. I. I love it. She's like the. The prototype Jersey Girl.

Oh, yeah.

The poof, the nails, the boom, the.

Bada bing, the balloon.

Yeah. The pl.

The raspy voice.

Yeah.

All the things we like. Because I've watched you from day one in ECW so long ago. I know the shining star that you set out to follow, Tommy Dreamer, the man whose footsteps you planned to follow. And you've done just that. You are reincarnation of this old man from 20 years ago. That's why Tommy Dreamer, you come into play into part three of my master plan. You see, Tommy Dreamer, that's the way I planned it from day one. Since I've returned, Shane Douglas is jacked as a right now.

Yeah, he is swole man.

Yeah, he's big.

He's bordering on having no neck right there.

Yeah, I know. I was like, what's going on? This hair is getting long too. So.

Yeah, I don't know.

He's just looking thick and full. There's no problem with that.

Yeah, he looks good because he's still good. He's still cut like he does. He's not bloated.

He's killing it on the mic. On getting this belt and holding this belt, on getting this girl and having her by my side, Dave.

And every stinking night. And one other thing.

Tommy dreamed that his heart haunted me as the man that you. There's no reason they as a tandem couldn't have gone into WWE two years later.

Yep. Shane Douglas and Francine and the Attitude era would have fit perfectly.

The key, Tommy Dreamer for November to Remember. You unlocked the door. Tommy Dreamer, but you unlock the door. I'll say it. Triple H was the problem. Triple H wanted to be that character. Unlock the door.

Yeah.

And that's why Shane never got a chance. At that point, Triple H just ripped off the character as the game franchise. The game. Look at that. Yeah. Cell phone cord. Cord. Cell phone.

Yep.

Oh, it's called Double Cross Ranch. Oh, I didn't know that was a place you could just call.

Yeah, I figured it would be unlisted. Double Cross ran Double Cross Ranch.

Oh, wow. That was an episode that was jam packed, man.

Yeah, the Pit bulls.

The pits. The Pit Bull. The Pit Bull versus a pit steel team, whatever the they were.

Yeah.

But good Louis McCauley match. Then we got the Shane Douglas, Tommy Dreamer. Yeah. Good match overall.

Yeah, it was decent storytelling.

Good stuff going on. Like a lot of front ends with Brian Lane. Then we got the Bull of Francine. I think my favorite part was just the. Those end promos. Yeah, that was pretty damn good. Yeah. So that wraps up the first episode here of ECW Hardcore TV185 from November 5, 1996. And we'll take a little break. Hey, we didn't think of any music, so. MUSIC breaks.

No, we didn't, because the thing is.

A lot of new.

Yeah, I was gonna say a lot of the stuff is either we've already played it, or I mean it. Like they played November Rain, like you say, like four times.

Yeah. And I don't want to look into.

Right.

Say that over and over again. Even though we're gonna have two episodes coming up with November Rain, I think we have to play it eventually.

But nothing lasts forever.

So. Yeah, I guess we'll come up with something.

Oh, yeah.

And yeah, take a listen to whatever the we come up with, and we'll be back with Easter. Be hardcore TV186. November 12th of 1996. Take a listen and we'll be right back. Yeah. You know what I like to play? No Dick, no doubt. Play on, play, play on play at your trade drop reverse it's going down Face a black streak the homies got at me Collaboration creations Bump like agony no doubt I put it down never slouch as long as my credit can vouch that dog couldn't catch me ass out Help me. Who could stop with Dre? Making moves attracting honeys like a magnet Giving them eargasms with my mellow accent still moving this flavor with the homies Black street and Teddy the original rough shaker down Good luck baby got them open all over town Strictly don't play around cover much grounds, got game by the town Getting paid is a forte each and every day truth play away I can't get her out of my mind. I think about the girl all the time, east side to the west side pushing fat rides it's no surprise she got tricks in the stash Stacking up the cash fast when it comes to the gas by no means average is on what she's got to have it baby you're perfect 10 I want to get in, can I get down so I I like the way you work kid no diggity I thought to bag it up. I like the way you work here no digging I thought bag it up I like the way you work it no diggity I thought the bag it up I like the where you work kid no digging I got to bag it up. She's got classes now she knowledge by the time baby never act wild very low key on the profile Catching feelings is a no Let me tell you how it goes. Curves the word spins the verb lovers it comes so freak what your heart do rolling with the fatness you don't even know what the half is you got to pay to play just for sure they bang bang to look away. I like the way you're working. Drop tight all day every day you're blowing my mind Maybe in time baby I can get you in my ride. I like the way you working.

No diggity I thought the baggage I.

Like the way you work kids I like the way you working.

No diggity I got to bag it up.

I like the way you working first.

Class from New York City to black street. What you know about me now? The same Cartier wooded frame sported by.

My shorty act for me.

Icy gleaming pinky diamond ring we beast about this click up on this scene. Ain't you getting bored with these fake ass broads?

Hot shows improves no doubt I predict the soul.

Please excuse if I come across rude that's just me and that's how a player's got to be Stay kicking game.

With a capital G Ask the peoples.

On my block, I'm as real as can be Word is born making moves never been my thing. So Teddy, pass the word to your chauncey I'll be sending the call let's say around 3:30, Queen pending.

Yeah, come on. But the rain Play on play, play on play on play on play On. Cause I like it.

No bigot. No doubt.

Black street production.

We out.

We out.

We out.

All right, we're back now for the next episode of ECW Hardcore TV. And it's ECW Hardcore TV episode 186 covering November 12th of 1996. And we got a run time of 57 minutes, 34 seconds. And Rick and I are going to be back at it and we're going to be covering matches from Ultimate Jeopardy and matches from Middletown, New York High incident. We got a mixed bag of here and I'm looking forward to it because got some good stuff on here just as we did on the previous episode. So good back to back episodes here leading up to November to remember. Rick, you ready to get into it?

Yes, sir.

You all set up on your Internet Archive?

Mm.

All right. Hopefully everybody else, you get ready on the Internet archive. You watch along with us. We are watching from the Internet archive. It's ECW TV again. One more time. Episode 186 from November 12, 1996. I'll give a countdown, as always, three down to one and say play. When I say play, we all click play. 3, 2, 1, play. All right, so we're right in here. Joey going at it. I'll lay out so I can hear what the you're saying. Joey's hyped up.

He is a dream partner of his choice. Pitbull number two has already chosen his launch time friend, Tommy Dreamer. Shane Douglas has put out a bounty and undisclosed amount of money to anyone who can take out Pitbull number two. And that man will be.

Shane has a bounty. Okay. Oh, this is. I'll recap.

Yeah, we're recapping. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, and let's see. You're gonna show.

And there's a beer. A little splash of bear. The insult injury. Oh, did you see on the truck that that belonged to Ted Petty?

Yeah.

You didn't mention that earlier, did you?

No, I didn't.

Yeah, yeah, that. That's his truck.

It's Rocco's truck. Your Uncle Rick's truck. Like you said, all the refs are just tripping over each other.

Only old school listeners of the podcast will understand. Rocco, Rick and Uncle Rick.

Y Grandpa Pru.

Grandpa pro. My grandpa PR do funk.

Yeah.

Me up. All right, so again, recaps here of what we had previously seen. Oh, let's do this in tandem. Let me beat up this little guy. And you can. It just seems so funny to me. Brian Lee is actually up a wrestler and Shane's like, ah, I'll beat up this referee, right?

I'm gonna beat up. I'm gonna beat up the referee that's nicknamed Peewee.

Yeah. Oh, that was. Oh, did he see that?

Yeah, that was a solid shot.

Here's the beautiful Nelson smacking. Oh, I didn't see that. I didn't see that Ash on the last episode.

Yeah. Oh, yep, there's that.

Oh, that's it. Almost popping out.

Yeah, yeah, they didn't show that. I don't think it was a different angle.

Yeah, different angle.

Joey's like, man, they couldn't have popped it out. What the hell?

That's Brian Lee again, like I said previously, looking like the Undertaker.

Yeah, he does look like the biker taker.

Yes. Mark Cow is friends with Brian, Leo's pro. Like, hey, dude, you stole my gimmick. I'm gonna take yours right now. Gonna make money with it.

Well, do you know. Do you know the story of Brian Lee getting arrested and telling. Telling the cops he was the Undertaker?

No.

Yeah, well, he got pulled over for something. We'll say it was like a DUI type thing. I don't know what it was, but it was something like that. And he told the cops that he was the Undertaker. And the Undertaker found out about it and was. Was a little less than thrilled that his. One of his friends had. Had put him in. In, you know, basically said that he got arrested finally.

Wasn't lying though.

No, he. He, look, he was the Undertaker.

He was the Undertaker.

He just didn't specify that he was the fake one from Summerslam94.

Well, he was the Undertaker for a few months before that.

Well, that's true. Yeah. Yeah.

That's funny though.

Yeah.

When would you. Where'd you get that story? Oh, like.

I've heard it, but I heard it. Oh, within the past year or so.

Oh, okay. Yeah, I don't know if it's like something new that came up because I haven't heard that. That's funny. Yeah.

I don't remember where I heard it, but it was within the past year or so and it was someplace reputable. It wasn't like, you know, Joe's wrestling page on GeoCities.

No, I'm not putting you on the spot. Yeah, who's your. Who's your sources?

Right. Yeah.

You'Re the Johnny on a spot here with the information, so I'm not questioning you.

They're playing Desperado.

Well, we got the Terry Funk video package going on.

Yep.

And hey, they should be playing a song like this for him. And if there was an ECW hall of Fame, he's the number one inductee. Why don't you come to your sins and I'll. Men and fences. I'm singing. Sorry.

Well, no, I'm singing, too, so it's okay.

All right. We can do duet. Let's do it.

I don't actually don't know most of the words to this song anyways, but. The Eagles, right?

Yes. Yeah. One of my favorite, favorite bands.

Yeah.

Beatles is my favorite. Like, many people probably. I don't know. They're my favorite. Eagles are right there.

Mm. Where's Weezer Rank?

It's like a different type of ranking category. I gotta put them in.

Gotcha.

You know what I mean?

Yeah. It's Grandpa Peru.

Hey, there he is. Desperado. What? You know, with that Weasley category.

Yeah.

Above Weasel would be Beast Boys, number one.

Oh, yeah.

For me, love the Beast Boys. That was the first group that I got into. Shouldn't have been listening to it when I did. It's kind of like Kiss, right? Like Kiss. I put Kiss in a different category. I don't put Kiss in the Beastie Boys, Weezer. I don't put Kiss with Eagles, Beatles, like, You know what I mean?

Yeah.

I don't know. It's hard to rank your music.

It really is. Yeah. That's. That's it always, like, what's your top five best bands or favorite bands? And it's like, I can't do that, man.

I got. I gotta break it up into different, like, eras of my life or music I like, Like.

Yeah.

Genres and, you know.

Yeah.

Movie is a little different. Like, if somebody asked me, what's your favorite movie? Boom. I know. Like, no question. Ever mentioned it on the podcast. My favorite movie.

I don't. I don't know. What is it?

Back to the Future. My favorite movie.

Okay. I mean, it's a good choice. It's a real good choice.

I'm not saying it's the best movie. I'm saying it's just.

No, it's your favorite movie.

Yeah.

Well, I always say my favorite movie is the Breakfast Club.

Well, that's in my top five, definitely.

Yeah.

Yep.

Not saying. Not saying.

I probably watch that just as much as Back to the Future.

Oh, definitely.

It's. It's neck and neck. I love it, man.

Yep.

Dude, if we watch that movie together, we'd just go line by line, I bet.

Oh, I can guarantee you we would. Yeah.

That might be a special episode. Let's watch back.

Breakfast, Breakfast Club.

What? Nice tribute to Terry Funk.

Yeah, that was about Back to the.

Future and what I liked not about Terry Funk. Oh, here's another. Extreme Warfare, Volume 1. So what's your favorite movie? Right. Breakfast Club. That's your number one.

I would say. I would say Breakfast Club. Yeah. I mean, I like Fight Club.

You love clubs.

Yeah.

Sorry.

I mean, if.

If it was easy, it.

What movie that will always have a special place in my heart is the. The very first Ninja Turtles movie from when I was five. Yeah, yeah.

89 movie.

It was 89 or 90. Whatever.

Yeah, whatever it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The first.

The live. Yeah, the live action one. Yeah. That'll always have a special place in my heart because I saw it in theaters. You know, the first movie I can remember seeing in theaters, you know all that. So first.

Okay, it's great. They bring that up. So I'll share. The first movie I remember going to and, like, being brought to that I wanted to see was Batman.

Oh, there you go.

In 1989.

Yeah.

First movie I did see in theaters, which is crazy. It's a memory that I just have. And I remember seeing it and then I had to, like, piece it together years later, like, oh, that's what I saw. My mother used to work at a drive in movie theater, and I was just brought there because she was working and I just had to be, you know. You know, it was Platoon. Yeah.

You would have been like, what, four?

Four. Yeah, yeah, four or five. Like. Yeah, yeah, four. Maybe five.

That's the kind of movie you want a four or five year old.

Yeah. So I'm sitting in the car, I'm looking at. It was a war.

Yeah.

And then I pieced together, like, oh, my mom was working at the drive in 1987 and platoon came out. That's what I saw. And I remember I was like, I'm watching this war movie.

Yeah. Sean Penn. Right.

So that's really.

No, no, Charlie Sheen. Okay.

So I was watching that. It's like, okay, all right, what now.

It'S gonna bug me. What's the move? The war movie with Sean Penn in it.

Sean Penn, war movie. Oh, Alaya. Like, much later, I think he was in a wall movie.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm like, what. What movie am I.

Oh, no, no, it's not that much later. It was a couple years later. Casualties of War.

Casualties of War.

You go with Michael J. Fox.

With Michael J. Fox. Okay. Yep.

John Lake was on.

Yes, yes.

Oh, yeah, that's. That's a good one too. Brian The Palmer is right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

John C. Riley was in that.

He was. I didn't know that.

I gotta watch that again. That was a Vietnam War movie. Yeah, maybe my whole. Maybe I was watching Casualties of War at the driving.

Yeah. Still not the kind of movie you want a kid watching.

Yeah. Hey, that's parenting in the 80s. Oh.

Yeah.

It doesn't know what the. Going on. Just sit there. I'm almost out of work.

Yeah.

Not that I would have complained. I was watching Freddy Krueger like the next year, so.

Oh, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. My, My cousin, she. She was big into Freddy Krueger. She's, I don't know, six, seven years older than me. And so she, we go over my grandma's house and she'd be watching it and gave my sisters nightmares. But I was all like, that's cool. Like, I like this, you know?

She gave nightmares.

Yeah, well, my, I mean, okay, you gotta remember, like, we're talking, like. Okay, I was probably 5, 6 at the time, so my sisters would have been like 4 and 2.

Okay.

So, I mean, seeing that, you know, some of that freak freaks you out even now. So when you're like two.

Oh. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. Okay.

Yeah.

Oh, it's crazy. I, I think back to myself, like, I was watching that at such a young age. Like, where I shouldn't have been, probably. Sure, yeah. But whatever. It was the 80s, early 90s, totally different time.

Well, I can remember.

And then I think to my, to my. Like, I don't want my own kids to see it now.

No, no, no, no.

My kids are older than I was when I started watching the stuff. And I'm like, trying to protect them from it.

Right.

Like, what am I. It's almost like I, I, I'm protecting it from them so I don't have people, like, questioning me like, you, you suck as a parent.

Did you see that? Axel just hawked the loogie, spit it up in the air and it literally arced and landed right on Big Dick's head.

What do you have Big dick doing? Is big dep on the top rope.

He's going to the top rope. Yep.

Here we go. In sync here. Wow.

Oh.

Big dick.

That was a big dick salt.

Big dick salt. Big dick. Doubly salt. Joey says, hey, I think Rick BB called it better than you, Joey.

Yeah.

Dick salt.

A dick salt.

Yeah, salty dick.

A salty dick.

It work it out. It's funnier every time, you know?

Yeah, like, like, like I said, fart jokes and titties that's the jokes you make when you're 12 and, you know, just getting to say dick a lot. You know.

We don't stop making dick jokes and titty jokes.

Oh, God, no.

That's how boys do. You know, that's the funny thing about being a teacher is that I have to act like I'm mad about stuff that kids say in class.

Right?

Yeah.

I'm sure you laugh at a lot of the stuff, but you can't laugh at it. But you want to so bad.

But I'm just gonna be, like, the person in control.

Yep.

What I really don't like. Yeah, it's kids. Kids are kids. What are you gonna do?

Yep.

But I. I handle it well. But I'm sure you can understand. So many teachers don't know how to. They take it so personal.

Oh, yeah.

Like they're the reason why kids are being kids. Chill the out.

Kids are kids, man.

The kids take it. The thing is, like, you can't be, like, it's all cool because it's not. They're gonna know it's not. Okay. You can't just behave however the you want to behave.

Right.

You're not trying to be friends with kids, but you need to be cool with kids, Right? Yeah.

Yeah. Because you want that. You want the kids to, like, trust you.

Right. You. If they think you. If they believe you care about them and support them, then they're gonna be good.

Yeah.

And you're gonna let them be kids. I don't know. I'm talking about my philosophy of teaching right now.

I don't know. Yeah, that. That.

That.

That's on our. Our other pre show podcast.

Yeah.

Teacher talk with Prue and jv.

Yes. I like this. Axel's Marilyn Manson chat. I always love that shirt.

His Marilyn Mason shirt, according to Dave Melton.

Yeah. Marilyn Mason. Joe Gartner. Put a T shirt on, remember?

It's not a gay gimmick, Prue.

Yes. It's not gay.

Dave Melser. It's not a gay gimmick. Nobody ever said it once.

Yes. We didn't say it was.

Yeah.

Smart man. What's your measure of revenge?

I have come up with another idea.

I say that we press charges. Let's Joe Girtner the lawyer now. What's going on, Joe G. Like the referee of the ring announcer version of Paulie who these Rick Rude.

No, that is okay.

The.

The dude that's standing up tall, that's still next to Devon. I should say he is. I forget his name. I'll look it up. But he's the head of Atlas Security, so he's like, you're gonna see him a lot over the coming years because he'll be the guy when they go into the. When they go into the crowd and the camera follows, he'll be one of the guys that's, like, pushing the fans back, keeping everybody.

I think I do recognize him now.

I want to say is. I want to say his name's Ronnie.

Oh, yes, that sounds right.

Yeah. Yeah. My. When I was growing up, I had a friend, Mike, and, you know, too many mics and that. Like, swear to God, his dad looked a lot. Looked identical to that dude. Like, same same, you know, mullet type of hairdo. Same same, like, handlebar, Fu Manchu mustache. Like, it was. It's. It's uncanny that he looked like. They look like they could be brothers, you know?

It seemed like a typical look of the time, though.

Oh, right. Yeah. Oh, this is like, Even his face. Oh, yeah. We should use this one.

Have we played this?

Was it.

Yeah, we played it.

Sad but true.

Yeah, sad but true. Definitely.

Yeah.

Yeah.

During the. During the break, I was looking up songs for.

From time.

From the time. And you know what the number one song was during this week of. In 1996.

90. November. 96. No.

All right, so if you talk about the. The week that ended November 2, it was the Macarena.

That one. I'll play that.

No, I. Oh, I know. And then the week after. It was. The week after it was no Diggity by Black street featuring Dr. Dre.

Okay, that's good. Break. Break song. No diggity.

Yeah, Break song. No diggity.

All right.

J.T. smith.

Is it the Dr. Dre one?

Yeah, it says it's Black street featuring Dr. Dre.

Okay. Because there is a separate version, I think.

Yeah, I believe you're right.

I like the way you work it.

No diggity.

No doubt. J got F shoes. Been the worst. Been the verbs.

Like pr. Shut the up.

You don't know what you're saying. No diggity. No doubt. All right, so let's play no Doubt, then. No Doubt. Don't speak.

Yeah, no diggity. And end with no doubt. That works.

No diggity. No doubt. Don't speak.

Yeah.

When did. When did that song come out?

That's what. I was just looking it up.

Most of them around the same time.

Right. Don't Speak.

If it's close enough.

Yeah. Don't. Okay. Don't Speak is on Tragic Kingdom, which is 95, and it it was released of April of 96, so it would have been around.

All right, we're playing it.

Yep.

No doubt. Don't speak. And her voice is great in that song.

It's not just her voice, man.

Oh, she's awesome. Hey, we gotta give some respect to the ladies.

Yes.

Since we've been womanizing Francine.

Yeah. Speaking of. Speaking of woman.

Oh. Oh, I love those shots.

Look at that ass.

Oh, my God. When I'm looking to that. Yes. I could see. Oh, same man looking like he's going to a bar mitzvah there.

Yeah.

Go to a funeral.

Oh, oh.

Know what that. Know what that did right there? That spawn SAU up to be a better wrestler.

Yeah.

Stop working like an idiot. Stop working like a wrestler. And then he got better.

He did.

Oh, this is one of my favorite songs.

Elastica, right?

Yep.

Oh, this sounds like a club song. Oh, yeah.

And we got over out Club Eastward. Sorry, that's so annoying to people. I love this girl's voice, though. It's so great.

It is. She's very talented. I don't know her name, but she's very talented.

Yeah, forget it. Forget it.

More human than human.

Oh, yeah. The Doc and Doc connection.

Yeah, Doc and Gordy. The miracle violence connection.

That's right. Yeah. Doc and. What the am I talking about? This girl's getting pounded.

She is. They have a couple of songs that have a female moaning in him.

I don't know how I never brought that up before. After all these episodes, you can always come up with some new perverted to say. Oh, yeah, how it is here on the Extreme Live guest.

All right, so the. This is highlight clips up right on the cement. Highlight clips of here's the album.

Oh, that was great.

Yep.

I wish I played the whole song. I can't help myself with singing. My gimmick, I guess.

No, it is your gimmick.

I am a shitty singer. I'm gonna sing. I don't give a what you think. Yeah, yeah.

According. According to JV, that's been your gimmick for, like 30 years.

That's true.

Singing, not knowing the words, just making.

Oh, you're right. I love how. You know all those things that we talked about.

Like. Like JV's.

That's why you're on the show. What's that? What are you saying?

I said like. Like JV's slicked back hair song.

Yes, right. You mentioned last time.

Yeah.

You know right away what I was saying.

Furnace.

Oh, man. At the time when he came down, came up with That I was like, dude, that needs to be a song.

How old were you guys when he came up with that? Like, high school?

Ah, no, we were a little older.

Okay.

Probably like 20, 21. Because his brother was in high school and his friend would come over the house, and so it was like his brother, like his younger brother Pat and his buddy. And JB was coming up with that and making them laugh.

Ah, yeah.

JV used to have another thing with. With hair. Comb your hair. Comb your hair. Now this is based on a movie, Thinner by Stephen. Stephen King wrote a book. Okay, better.

Was it a theatrical movie that they. Yeah, it was like a TV movie.

No, it was a full theatrical. Okay, better. And in the movie, whatever. Like, the premise is a guy. He's a lawyer. He's an. He. He runs over somebody and he gets cursed by some, like, voodoo lady.

Ah.

And the guys are like a big fat guy, so she curses them. Yeah, I curse you. And then he starts losing weight. He thinks his life is great because now he's losing weight, but then he keeps just losing weight and then he dies.

Oh, okay, that. That sounds pretty. Like a pretty good movie.

Yeah, that was a great start.

Yeah.

But anyway, JV used to take your hair, comb your hair, like anybody that had, like, up here, like in school and.

Yeah.

Or go up to being that. Comb your hair and do like, you have to see, like, the. The trailer because the lady, like, puts her hand up, like, come your hair. Totally deep dive. Inside jokes.

Yeah, inside jokes are the best, though.

Yeah.

It's not a Japanese sleeper. That's a cobra clutch. Come on.

A Japanese sleeper. That's racist. That's what kids would say today. That's racist. Japanese. Sleep.

Well.

What do we got here? Scaffolds? Where are we here?

This is that high incident.

Oh, yes. Okay. Yep. Be done talking about my. Yeah, this one's a mick bag here. Like I said earlier, we got.

They jump around.

Get some high instant stuff. We're gonna get too cold. Versus a surprise person, apparently.

Yeah.

I only know his name is DD J or David Morton. Tyler Jericho.

Yep.

I haven't watched a match, so I don't know who the it is, but Rick knows.

I do.

As always.

I do. You. You. I. I'm. I'm gonna see if you can. If he, like, if you can pick him out, like, oh, I know who that is just by looking at him. And then I'll. I'll tell you in the audience.

Pick him up from the audience.

No, no, no, no, no, no. I'll let You. And then I'll tell you and the. The listeners. Oh, okay. The listeners. Yeah.

Okay. Do you think I'll know you?

Have you seen all of ecw? Like, you watched it till the end?

I dropped out like, 99. 2000, 2001.

Okay. You might. You might not know him then, but we'll. We'll see. All right, He. He ends up in wwf, wwe, after ecw.

All right, So I should be familiar enough to know who the he looks like.

I can guarantee you've heard the name. It's just if you've seen him or not, you know.

Okay. All right, I'll take the test.

Okay, now it's not test.

Good. So Van Dam and a Sabu. Is this the first time Van Damme and Sabu teamed up?

No, no, because this is a rematch from. Oh, this is a rematch. Yeah, yeah.

Remember, against the same team.

Yeah.

Crawford looking like a dad right now.

Yeah.

Looking like young Stu Hart.

Yes. All right.

That hurt my throat. And nobody else wants. I'm pretty sure all I do is do things that nobody wants to hear at this point.

No, no, that was a good. I will say that's a good Stu. Hard impression.

Thanks. Oh, you gave me. You gave me problems on an impression last episode, too.

Yeah. What was it?

I forget, but it was good.

Yeah, no, I. You say. I'm like, I remember it was good. I just can't remember what it was.

Yeah, I don't remember.

Was it us doing Beavis and Butthead impressions?

No, no, no. It was a wrestler.

He's a wrestler. Okay.

Rob Van Dam going for a double underhook. Oh, nice double hook. First face Buster.

Yeah. He didn't hook the leg.

Yeah.

You're not gonna beat a guy like Dan Crawford without hooking the leg.

Come on, Joey. Oh.

Oh.

Waiting for that clothesline.

That was a good clothesline. That's a good sell by Van Damme, right?

Yeah, that's the thing with clotheslines. It depends on who's selling it.

Yeah, but I mean, it looked like. Like Crawfit threw that.

Yeah. With deadly driving.

Yeah.

Yep. That was a well timed spot because they both connected with it.

Brother on brother violence here.

Yeah. There you go. There's the brothers. Right. If it. If he just put on the little pajama pants, they'd be the Arabian busters. It be one jump ahead of the bread line, two steps ahead of the crowd. I take only one I can't afford. That's everything. Sorry, I gotta stop singing. Oh, that was a great spot.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, double Drop. I say I'm not gonna sing, and I stop breaking out into a musical.

Yeah.

That'S because I have young kids and they like musicals, and I have Disney plus.

Yep.

All right. Gotta shut the up.

Have you. Did you watch Aladdin recently? Is that.

Why am I running? Yeah, well, I'm thinking of Aladdin because Sa's pants, that's why.

No, I know that, but. But, like, you knew the words to the song.

Oh, Aladdin was one of my favorite movies as a kid.

Oh, okay.

But, yeah, they've watched it in the past year or so.

There you go. The original. Not the. Not the live action one with Will Smith as a genie.

We've seen it. Some of it's good, some of it's not. Yeah, whatever. What, are they gonna remake everything already? Can we just, like, play the. That was already made. Like, this is Aladdin. We don't need no Aladdin.

Right. And like you said, you got Disney Plus. It's not like you don't have access to it.

Right.

It's not like when you and I were growing up that. Oh, it's in the vault.

Yeah. We can't buy this until, like, five years until it comes out again.

Yeah. Till 2002 for the 10th anniversary.

You can't buy Cinderella for 20 years. It's finally out of the vault. Disney's buy me like that. Well, that's good.

It's good marketing.

Yeah, Good marketing. That's what I was looking for. Yeah. Oh, it's only available now. It's like. It's kind of like a fast food restaurant. It's like McDonald's like. Oh, the MC is available.

Yeah.

Limited time only.

Same wavelength.

I guess we've been.

Doing this for too long. Yeah.

Yeah. Look at these guys just setting up for a big feud right there.

Yep.

RVD and sab. Oh, that's what you said I had a good. Good impression on. Was my Paulie.

That's right. Yeah.

I don't think it was that good, actually. Maybe not now. Maybe. Maybe last time.

Yeah. Pac Myers, Hack the Sack. Yeah. Hacked Haircut Myers, as you used to call them.

The reason why I said that is because of the. The one time that I had a hacked haircut.

Right.

And cried about my haircut.

Was that around school picture day, or am I just mistaken?

Yeah, it wasn't a. No, it wasn't school picture, actually. No, it was my. It was. It was legit. Was.

Yeah. See, I remember. I remember the dumb.

Oh, man. I. I think it was my sophomore year.

Oh, geez.

I Was like, what the, man? It wasn't even like a big picture. It wasn't like a solo picture of me. You know what I mean? Like a regular. It was a shot picture. So it was a group.

Yeah. Yeah. But you still were like, I'm gonna look like an idiot.

Yeah. Ah, I guess I'll send you the picture.

Nice.

It probably won't even look that bad, but to me, I was like, off. This is way too high of a fade. Like, it was shaved all the way up top. Like I was in the military or something.

Oh, geez.

I always hated that.

If I. If I. If I can find my high school yearbook, I'll send you the. The picture of the me I was voted most likely to come back to the school as a teacher. So I'll have to send you the picture for the superlative for that.

Oh, that's awesome.

Yeah.

I would have been the least likely to be a teacher.

Well, the funny thing is, is I never had any ambitions to be a teacher, so it was just kind of like, why'd you pick me for this one? But at the same time, it was nice to be selected for something, so.

Yeah.

All right, so here we go. There it is. David Tyler, Jericho Morton. Whatever.

All right, let me see this. I can't see him because the. Keeps getting.

Yeah. Because it's hit. Right.

All right. But they're flopping. They're in some good spots early on there.

Yeah.

Now they gotta stand off. Let me see who the. This is, though. It's like knockoff Jericho and Ricky Morton.

Yeah, hence. Hence why he is. It's the name David Tyler Morton Jericho.

Well, this guy was in ECW and wwf.

Yep.

Check.

Yep.

Did he have shorter hair?

Nope. In WWE he might have, but in ECW, he didn't. And he is a future ECW television champion.

What year? 2000.

Yeah, I think it's 2000. In fact, I know it's 2000 because it's not. It's not. Nine hundred and ninety nine and.

All right, give it. Give it up.

That is Kid Cash.

Oh, okay. All right. That makes sense.

The Kid Rock look alike.

Yeah. Hey, we're talking about. That makes perfect sense. Kid Cash started off as a rock and roll.

Yep. He's trained by Ricky Morton, hence why he's got the Morton name. But he also kind of left Jericho, so.

Right. I seen his names different ways, though. I've seen, like, DD Martin and then the longest name that we have here.

Yeah. They call him Davey. Davey Morton. At one point. I think he's Dave Cash. Because his name actually is David Cash. Like.

Oh, yes. Yeah, I saw that. To David Cash.

Yeah.

All right, we're going tumbleweed. Whatever. The 450 splash. Although. All right.

Our Scorpio Splash. Whatever. The. The Flash. The Flash Funk special. Whatever.

Showing up, Kid Cash. We'll see more of you in a few years. I'll see more of him on the tn. Tnn. Ecw. Right?

Yes, yes, I believe so.

Oh, Taz. Kata ch him Out Flash Funk. Get the out Flash you so funky.

Flash. Some kiss.

No, I love it. Wanna fight the hand of Feed joke. Shut up, Bill. No, he's talking to the crowd. But that was funny. You can go with Bill. Shut up, Bill. I don't want to hear you either. I have done everything acting like Coach.

Was John to. Did he manage the Beverly Brothers too? Or was it just the Genius?

Beverly Brothers.

Yeah, that's what I thought. Because he. With Mr. Perfect. I know, but yeah, he man, is.

Beverly Brothers and Mr. Perfect.

Yeah.

And then Genius took over Beverly Brothers after. Right? Beverly Brothers. Underrated.

Yeah, well, shitty, shitty gimmick. That's the thing.

Yeah. Shitty gear, shitty name, shitty music. I like that music. Kind of like ironic. I don't know.

I feel like they had. They had one theme that was good and then one theme that was kind of crap.

Yeah, they had two themes.

Yeah.

But, like, now he wants his music back.

Yeah, the. The gimmick of the Beverly brothers, where they're like, kind of supposed to be pansies, you know? Yeah.

I don't know what the gimmick was supposed to be like. They were rich boys, like.

Yeah, but they were also supposed to be kind of like their.

Their badasses.

Yeah, but. Yeah, but if you look at them and like.

Well, I don't know, what's the good point with the Genius? They seem more.

Okay, maybe that's what I'm thinking of, because genius is a. Yeah, but. Yeah, because if you. If you've ever seen any of their stuff before wwf, when they were in awa, as. It's a destruction crew.

Right.

You know. You know, some bloom. They. They were just, you know, like you say, like they were just badasses. They just wrecked people, you know?

Well, yeah, that's why I say, even as the Beverly brothers.

Yeah.

Watch those squash matches that they had, they just like, kill.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like that one guy that dropped right on his head like, every match.

Yeah, I. I've. I've just been recently watching superstars, like, throughout 91 dead. They just killing people.

Nice. I mean, Not. Not that I. I remember watching like that, but.

No, I know. No, but what I mean is that, like, I thought it was, like, happenstance, like. Oh, that was one episode.

Yeah.

Randomly. Or. I seen a clip of that before, but it's like week after week, they are legit being tough on these people. And this is still on the. The time where they were with a coach.

Oh, okay.

Not even genius yet.

Yeah. I'll have to go back and watch it then.

Then after coach, you got the genius and they get into a bushwackers feud.

Yeah.

Stupid y. It was. It was just in a bad position for them. They had no chance because there were other good teams. LOD was there at the time. Power and Glory should have had a tag title run, but yeah, man, LOD came in as well.

They're under. They're underrated, too.

The Rockers should have had a run.

Yep.

But same thing. LLD came in and that screwed up there chance. All right, so what do we get now? A little recap of Taz and SAU feud.

I believe so. Yeah.

Special edition here with Paulie giving some narration.

Championship wrestling.

The November drew the Sabu T shirt.

I mean, he did a bunch of the T shirts, so it wouldn't be surprising if he did.

That would be cool.

Yeah.

Cool little factoid. The big feud. Taz is the one that drew that shirt. We're getting those damn shirts.

Yes.

Well, tonight I'm here to set the record straight because there was one man that I consulted before bringing Sabu back to ecw. One man who I went. That one man was Taz. Look at that wig he has on.

Yeah, that. That's. That's a terrible wig. I think that's why he's, like, in the shadow, is Try to. Try to cover it up a little bit, but it. It doesn't work.

Yeah. Like, dude, we don't need to think. You have long hair. Swear your hat. He'd always leave Sabu alone. He gave me his word as a friend, as a man. Sabu gave me the same promise. He would forget about Taz.

He would put it behind him.

He would let the past, your friend, be the past. I. You. He gave me his word as a man, as a man of honor. He gave me his word as my friend. For one year, Taz has called Sabu out to the ring because Taz has known for one year that Sabu will not answer the challenge. He cannot answer the challenge because he gave me his word. Because for one year, Javu has been a man of. I Feel like I'm being triggered every time this song comes on.

Yeah.

Here, here it is. Oh, I used to like this song. I don't like it anymore.

No, it's just. I will say it's. It. It's overplayed. And obviously now that we're watching this, it's very much overplayed.

Yes. I can still appreciate it if I try to remove myself from every wrestling thing, you know?

Yeah, thank. Thankfully soon we won't have to hear it over and over again.

Plus, Axel Rose sucks now.

Yeah, change it. Change it.

Yeah. Can we have a Beavis and Butthead making fun of this video right now? All right, so what I'll do here is give some rundown of house show results. Another backdrop of November rain. On November 1, Staten island had Bubba Ray and Spike defeat Devon and Rick Rage. Who the Rick Rage? Yeah. Got any answer on that one?

No clue, but let's welcome. Yeah, let's just say it was some jobber. Oh, you know what? I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go to a limit. Say he was one of the Pittsburgh Steel Crew.

Oh, okay. Well, that's probably. Probably spot on. Guess. All right, then from there we got people number two defeating Devin Storm. Mikey Whipwreck in David Cash. David Jericho, David Tyler, man of multi names. They defeated the Erotic Experience.

The Erotic Experience.

I'd like to have one of those. Bill Alfonso defeated Todd Gordon, Sand Island. How'd Gordon working the show, huh? Dr. Death defeated too Cool Scorpio doing some jobs as he's heading out to be funky. And then we got Shane Douglas defeating Lucy Goalie just says no contest. I don't know how that wrapped up, but no contest between Shane Douglas and Lewis Coley. The Eliminators also defeated Sabu and Randam in the main event. Had a cage match, Tommy Dreamer and the Sandman defeating Brian Lee and Raven. That was in front of 400 people in Staten Island, New York. The next day on November 2nd in Middletown, which we've seen numerous matches from, it's 700 people in attendance. Lucy Coley defeated Stevie Richards and a handicap match, the Erotic Experience getting defeated by Big Dick Dudley swinging that thing. Tuko Scorpio, as we just saw, defeated David Cash. Kid Cash. And we have Bubba Ray and Spike defeating Axel. Ron Devon defeated Brian Lee. I like that. Brian Lee getting his ass beat after being a little, little bully.

All right, so I did a little research while you were talking. Yeah, so Rick Rage, he came in, he's independent wrestler, but he came in with Kid Cash and they Stick around for a little while and then he leaves. And Kid Cash stays, at least temporarily. I mean, he. He will leave and then come back, but beside the point.

Does Rick Rage go on to do anything?

No. Oh, like indie stuff? Nothing.

No. In ecw, I mean.

Oh, no, no. He's on house shows. He was a bounty hunter for Shane Douglas. Trying to break, you know, basically break Pitbull Timber 2's neck.

Yeah.

You know, get the bounty. That's about it. Like, nothing. Nothing of note. And then as far as the erotic experience, the erotic experience is another future ECW star one. Christopher Chetty. Yeah. Chris Chetty under the. Under the name GQ Gorgeous with a guy named Pat Day. Yep. They make a few appearances, and that's. But basically their enhancement talent.

Yeah. That's sad for ecw. Yeah. Enhance. Yeah.

Yep.

All right. Good research there.

Yeah.

I knew you'd be a johnny on the spot right there, Ricky. On the spot.

Yeah. Well, I mean, I had to look it up because.

Yeah.

Now I'm like, oh, yeah, Chris Chetty, you know, we're gonna see a lot more of him.

Makes sense.

Especially. Especially in, like, 98, 99.

Right. Like, just like Kid Cash, Chris Chetty. And they're coming in.

Yeah. I mean, Spike came in.

Right. I mean, like, seems more obvious to me from what I watched. But it makes sense, though, because people that are big now here in 96 came in in, like, 94. Right now you have people creeping in 96 that become big in, like, late 98.

Yeah.

99. Mm. Like I said, I was kind of out at that point because I was just watching wwf because I blew up.

Oh, yeah.

Now I was like, all right, ECW, go yourself. @ this point, I don't care anymore. I watch ECW 95, 96. Because the other WWF and WW was kind of shitty.

Yeah.

All right. So another match that happened in Middletown that I was surprised by. Mikey Whipwreck beat Raven. Pitbull number two beat the Pittsburgh Steel team. As we saw Shane Douglas defeated Tommy Dreamer in a match that we saw. Gonna ECW TV ECW championship match rather. And same man's gonna beat Tuko Scorpio. And then tag team title matches. We got the gangsters winning against Sabu and RA Van Dam in the Eliminators in Middletown, New York. And those are the big shows that are on these episodes. Little note about Kurt Angle. So we talked a little about Kurt Angle before and how pissed off he was about the crucifixion and all that. Kurt Angle was almost clueless. On commentary during the Taz vs Little Guido match, they tried to put it over like both where WCW and WWF wanted him to be there and the results were. You know, most reports said that they all have a real reason for an apology by Raven after the crucifixion Angle because Kern Angle is so upset because he does so much to work with the community and has a certain image that he felt he had to reflect on. Right. Yeah, we already know that. The.

Yeah, as I, as I said in the last episode. Yeah, you said that about how Raven comes out and he basically gives a very insincere apology.

Yeah. Instant. Yeah. And it's the same makeup.

Yeah. You know, like it's. He says I'm sorry, but you can tell it's kind of like Paul and Todd told me to come out here and say I'm sorry. And because you people have kind of respected me when I disappeared from my own personal reasons, I'll, I'll respect you. Your, you know, your religious beliefs. Sorry. Kind of a thing like.

Right.

Half assed at best. But it, but it worked because it's within the Raven character, you know, that he's gonna be an.

About it. Yeah, well. And he was bringing out his own personality though, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He made mention of I'm Scott Levy. Like he doesn't say I'm Scott Levy, but he makes mention of Scott Levy. So it's like he's, he's just creating a differentiation between the character and his. Himself. But at the same time it, it, it comes off as fairly disingenuous.

Yeah. I didn't realize that from what I had read and known that I felt like came out as. Oh, I'm just trying to help cover this up a little bit. Yeah, but, but yeah, it makes more sense what you're saying that that's what he did. Yeah, like, yeah, let me just. Half ass. Half asses. Because I have to.

Right.

You know. All right, so we just wrapped things up there and hey, wouldn't have to listen to that whole song because I spoke over it and I didn't sing. So that, that's a good thing. But damn, I did in the background when I. Going through those household results that information. That song is good.

Well, the thing is, is if you, if you watch the video with that like the highlight clips, it's like it gets you hyped for, for November to remember. And that's, I mean that's the point of.

Yeah, I am hyped for it.

But I mean you also want to Sing it.

Yeah, and I don't want to sing it because I don't want to. Everybody up. All right, so that's it. And we can. We're done with this already.

Yeah, that. That episode flew by.

Yeah. Terry Funk back. And I mean, they're calling Terry Funk up so we know he's coming back.

Yep.

Elbows Will and cheers at each other.

Yep.

Sabu and RVD versus the Connection there. Yeah. Profit and Furnace, Taboo versus Sabu.

Yeah.

And then Too Cold versus Kid Cash, man. All right, so good stuff there. And back in just a moment with the ECW Live cast wrap up. All right, we're back now for the extreme ECW Live cast wrap up. And we'll be back in two weeks with our next super cut special. And obviously, you know what it is? It's November to remember 1996. And we're gonna break this down into two parts. We'll do part one coming up. Do half the show, man. It's a big ass show. It's like three hours. So we're definitely gonna have to break this up. And it'll be me, Rick, JV back on for this big super card. It's what Dave Meltzer said at the time, this is the biggest ECW show of all time. And I think it's true. I think.

Oh, it definitely is.

And I think it is up until the pay per views. This is the biggest one, right?

Yeah, yeah, it's definitely.

I mean, this one, even in comparison to some of the pay per views, is bigger.

Oh, yeah. Yes. I'm. I can tell you right off the bat, the second pay per view that they do, November to remember, blows it out of the water. Yeah, but that's. That's a story for about. I don't know.

We'll get to it. Yeah.

Eight months from now, a year from now. Whatever it is.

Whatever it is.

When we get there.

Because we will get there.

Yes.

All right, so like I said, we'll be back in two weeks for that, and then two weeks after that we'll have part two. Then we'll get back on track with some hardcore TV episodes heading into 1997. What? 1997. ECW, man. I say I feel like we've been doing this forever, but kind of has been.

Yeah, it's been, what, four and a half years? Five years, something like that?

Five years. Yeah. Yeah. And I love it.

Oh, yeah.

Awesome.

All right, so do this if you didn't love it.

That's right. All right, so we'll be back with that also, please, again. Once again, check out bottom line, rest cast, the career of Stone Cold Steve Austin. And me and jv, we are covering currently the career of stunning Steve Austin in the Hollywood Blondes and keep checking that out. We drop episodes every two weeks now. Please continue to check that out. Enough. The whole career of Stone Cold Steve Austin is available. Whatever part of his career that you like, just go into the archives and find it because it's there and we covered it and we had a good time talking about it. So check it out. And please again reach out to us on Twitter, on X, whatever, the Facebook, Instagram. Follow me Mike Crew at NPRU 83. Call JV at John Van Damage. Follow Rick BB at Leowia85. Also here on the Extreme Cast. Thank you, BTT Goon Squad, BTT Patreon members, thank you for all your support. And also please share and follow us on Twitter at extremecast. That's all I gotta say, Rick. Anything else?

Nope. We got nothing.

All right, so that's perfect because now we got Gwen Stefani about to sing. Don't speak so you don't have anything to say? I don't have anything to say. We're out of here. No doubt. There's nothing else to say other than don't speak. See you guys in two weeks. So long.

You and me we used.

To be together every day together always.

I really feel that I'm losing my.

Best friend I can't believe this could be the end it looks you're letting go and if it's real I don't want to know don't make me not what you don't think I know what you're thinking I don't need your reasons don't tell because all memories.

They can.

Be inviting but some are all together mighty writing no, don't speak I know what you're thinking and I don't need your reasons don't tell me who we are you and me I can see.

Us dying all.

Free and know it's what you say so please stop exc. Don't tell me cu. No, no don't be I know what you it again and I don't need your reason don't tell because don't tell.

Because.

I know what you're saying don't please stop explaining don't be don't think don't think sing and I don't need your reasons I know you're good I know you're good I know you're real good.