E96 Extreme ECW Live Cast - HCTV 208-210: April 15, 22, & 29, 1997

It's a new year stuff. Oh, my God. I've traveled with this guy. I've trained with them, I've broken bread with them. And I choked him out. The final battle between Raven and Tommy Dreamer. You did your job and ran the fuckers off. Look at that. From the twisted steel section of Dudleyville. It's over. It's over. He did it. Extreme Championship Wrestling has been thrown into disarray. This, my friends, is E C W.

Welcome to the extreme ECW live cast. And this week we are back with ECW hardcore TV covering Eastwood, Hawker TV 208 through 210. And that's April 15th, 22nd, 29th of 1997. Yeah, I slowed it down because that's a lot of episodes 18, 22nd and 29th of 1997. I'm Mike Pru along with JV and Rick B.B. rick B.B. how you doing?

Doing pretty good, brother. How you doing?

I'm doing what I'm doing. How you guys? Doing good, bruh.

Doing good, bro.

Hey, we're always doing good here and I'm glad to have you guys here because now we are beyond barely legal. We're beyond finally pretty good. Oh, we'll see.

We'll see.

Maybe it's not that good.

Things got to be up from here.

We'll figure it out. But at least we're beyond this point at this point. So, yeah, thanks, guys for being back with us. Give us a follow on X Twitter. We're at Extreme Cast. At Extreme cast. Me like PR MPRU 83@MPRU 83. JV, is that John Van Damage? He has, you know, he has the stud name at John Van Damage. And then you got Rick BB at Leo Wyatt 805. 85, yeah. Leo White, 85. Sweet name there. Also check out JV and I on the Bottom Line Resting cast the career of Stone Cold Steve Austin. We covered the entire crap. Stone Cold Steve Austin. And hey, people are starting to try to do that. We already did it. So them we cover the whole. Listen to us first. We did it the right way. Just telling you. Check it out at Bottom Line Cast. I don't want to be a about it, but yeah, check out our podcast. We put like years into it, people, all of a sudden, oh, yeah, we're gonna do. We're gonna stop covering this stuff. Okay, fine. Hey, jv, I don't know if you noticed, our numbers have jumped up big time.

Yeah, you told me that. You showed me that screenshot.

Yeah. Since the Mr. McMahon thing came out, skyrocketing people Checking out this podcast that we had many years ago. It's pretty good.

Yeah.

How long ago was it that we started?

Now, not to do my own horn, but what's that, jv?

How long ago did we start? What year did we start again?

18.

20.

18. Wow.

September 18th. Yeah.

And we still got the episode I.

Got to put out, right? Oh, yeah, we have episodes in the bank. Yeah, yeah, we're doing Stomach Steve Austin. So, yeah, that's coming up. We slowed it down. We were doing something, Steve, like, week after week, you know, but now taking a little break and slowing it down. But anyway, let's get back to this episode. Rick, Bibi.

What'S up?

Thank you. All right, so, Rick, you've been in charge of our QCCs for a long time, quality control centers. And, you know, that's why you're here. You're. You've got. You've got us in order. JV and I, we're always around, and Rick is all you. You've always been Johnny on the spot, just like, hey, this is how things are. This is how things been. And we always said, all right, you tell us what the hell's going wrong with this episode. But now we're gonna do a live one, right?

Yeah. For the most part. I'm not gonna. It's not gonna have the same gloss and sheen, you know, any cool editing, but hey, it's raw, baby.

Yeah. And all we want from you at this point is what happened on that episode of ECW, Hot Girl TV from April 25th. April 15th, right?

No.

April 15th. Yeah. Two days after barely Legal.

Right, Right after. It's just like a recap episode.

Yeah. And it's a recap. That's why we're not covering it, like, exactly. Watch along style.

Right. So if you can, Rick, you'd cover it in your old school style that you've done for year, like over a year and a half at this point. That's another crazy thing. The fact that Rick has been doing side commentary and being part of the show for so long. I know time's just flying by.

Tell me about it.

Yeah.

How long have you been on the show now?

I started, like, actually on. On actual on air, like, with you guys. Not just doing the QCCs was March of 23, but I started doing the QCCs in, like, December of 22. So it's been. It's been almost two years since the people started to hear the dulcetones of me on. On this podcast.

I love that word.

The dulcet tones of Hot Barty Hopper.

Exactly. Father James Mitchell's illegitimate son.

Oh, Rick, what was the line that you said? You sent it to me in some text or some way.

Well, what was it concerning?

It was in regards to, like.

Am.

I. I mean, you said to me, it's like, oh.

I'm scroll. I'm scrolling back through my text message.

Yeah, no, don't worry about it. But it was. It was in regards to like, oh, you said this about me. Like, it's just appreciative of you.

Like, oh, all right.

Well, yeah, we'll figure it out.

We'll figure it out. Yeah.

But anyway, Rick's gonna give us a little breakdown of this episode of Extreme. You see the behind TV. Take it away.

All right, so hardcore TV 208, April 15, 1997. If you want to watch it on Peacock, it is season five, episode 16. It is. Is essentially. It's a recap episode. It's almost like a preview episode for Barely Legal as well. Even though it aired two days after the Pay per View. I guess it's one of those things where if you in fewer in America and got ecw, Hardcore tv, but were some of the unlucky few that did not have the pay per view available kind of previews it, but it also reviews it in a. So that you can be hyped about it and also find out what happened. I. I don't know. Like, I. I don't get Paul's mindset on that. But it opens up with Terry Promo. Terry Funk cutting a promo at his appreciation banquet. As we noted on one of the previous two episodes, the night before Barely Legal, they did Terry Funk Appreciation Banquet. It's available out there on YouTube and on archive.org and essentially it was just them kind of paying tribute to Terry Funk for all that he's done. A. For ecw, but also for the wrestling. You know, the wrestling business in general. And it's. It's a real heartfelt, in my opinion, kind of a thing. It's not just, oh, we're doing this to make ourselves look good. It's. They actually mean it like they really were. Paul realizes that if it wasn't for Terry Funk, ECW never would have made it to pay per View, even though he had really nothing to do with, like, the later stuff. They wouldn't have kind of got it off the ground if there wasn't Terry Funk there to be like, hey, these guys are legit. You know, I'm giving them my support and my blessing almost. So they. They air the. The promo from, from him. He doesn't say much, but it's just, it's, it's always cool to hear Terry Funk talk. My opinion. Then they move on to highlighting the, the long running feud between Shane Douglas and the Pit Bulls, including Gary Wolf's neck being broken, Shane Douglas throwing him around by the halo brace, threatening to snap Gary Wolf's neck and Anthony Durante's neck. All that, you know, everything that happened, we, they show it every episode basically that we've seen. So it's something that if you've been following, following us or watched it at the time, you, you know, all the ins and outs. And then they showed.

Yeah, go ahead, let's speed it up then if you want. I'm sorry.

Oh, it's fine. So then they showed some highlights of that match and then we all know that Rick Rude, if you were listening, came back. Not came back, but he came out and beat the out of Shane Douglas. He's been harassing him for the whole year. But he finally on Unmasked, even though it really wasn't him behind the mask, he was one of the Riot Cops spoilers. And then he cuts a promo and then they, for some reason they show another video package of the Dudley Boys and the Eliminators feud. Like, I don't know why they didn't go in order, but whatever. Very uneventful. You know, Deadly Boys, the Eliminators, they put on an okay match. It was mostly a highlight for the Eliminators and that's why you get photo highlights, then you get highlights of the main event, the triple threat triangle match, whatever they choose to call it this week that leads into Terry Funk facing Raven for the title. Then there's the highlight package of the. The real big feud, actually. Taz and Sabu. And again, if you've been following us and if you know anything about ECW, this was like the marquee feud of 1995. Well, the end of 95 into 97, TAZ versus SABU. And they show highlights of that and then you get a whole bunch of promos. Fonzie, Taz. And then it ends with Paul Heyman saying thank you to everybody for being supportive, for coming out, for basically, you know, making ECW popular enough that they managed to get pay per view. Because that's what he always wanted was to get, you know, get ECW on pay per view. And he got it. And so it's just a thank you to the fans, which is obviously nice. You know, the real question is, did any of the wrestlers get paid For Barely Legal.

Yeah.

But, yeah, that was. That was basically that episode. It was. It's one of those things that if you've watched any of the stuff we've covered, you've seen half of it because it's just highlights and promo, you know, recap packages of feuds and then just the promos at the end after Barely Legal, where it's, you know, it's fun to watch, but it's not worth watching an entire episode just to get five minutes of promos.

Right. I mean, it's a typical episode for anybody that would watch ECW at the time. It's like, oh, right.

That's cool.

Yeah.

Yeah. For the sake of us covering ECW like we are. Yeah. It's a thing.

Right? It's. It's just all recaps.

And that's why you. You covered it, and you did a great job covering it.

Thank you.

And thank you very much for doing that.

You're welcome.

You know, just for continuity purposes, Rick PB is always Johnny on spot for doing this. Always.

Clutch Daddy.

He always covers the shit episodes we're not gonna watch.

I'm sure in the future there will be more. I. As I said, off air. I know there's another one that. I definitely know exactly when it is, that it will be a. Well, okay, so that this is what they covered. You're gonna get two minutes of me going, okay, there was this and this and this. All right, next episode. Yeah. No. Well, any other. Any of the Supercard specials if we didn't do a Supercard special on it? There was always an episode or two episodes going, like, all right, this is what happened.

Yeah, yeah. Like in the middle of the show.

Right. And if it was something that we covered, the COVID you know, we watched the Supercard. What's the point of watching two recap episodes when we just saw the same stuff?

Right. All right, so we're gonna continue on, and we're gonna get right into some actual action. Two new episodes we're gonna cover April 22nd and April 29th feature hardcore TV. All right, we're back now for the next episode. We're covering ECW, hardcore TV episode 209 from April 22, 1997. And if you're checking this out on Peacock, it's season five, episode 17, whatever the. That might mean nothing very soon, but it's April 22, 1997, and in some cases, it's April 24, 1997. But we're covering April 22, 1997. Hate to make this confusing. But hey, that's what I do. And we're gonna check this out on the Internet Archive because they've done a great job with having these episodes available. So we're going to check out there and if you want to watch along with us, go over there to the Internet Archive. Just find this episode. April 22, 1997. And this is from Pennsylvania. Matches were taped and recorded on March 30, 1997. And it's mostly promos, a couple matches, but this is right after Barely Legal. So we're gonna get Spike Dudley and Chris Candido. Chris. Chris Chetty. Rather. Teaming up with each other to take on the Full Blooded Italians. Tracy's mother is Little Guido. Hey, yo. In Monaco of Monica, I think Manaka.

I thought it was like. Like Banaka, but with an M.

Whatever the. Yeah, I can't get it right.

That's what I'm saying. Yeah, it's. No, it's M, O, N, A C A Mona. Monaca.

Monaca.

Yeah. I don't know.

Yeah, it's Monaca. It's gotta be a Monaco. Yeah, whatever. Whatever the. As Tony Soprano would say, whatever the. Oh, yeah. And then we got Bos Mahoney and Corporal Punishment. Rick will probably talk about that.

Corporal Punishment.

Yep.

All right, so get that going on. So get it going here. So I'll give a countdown three down to one. I'll say play. When I say play, we all click play. Everybody ready? Yes, Ready. Three, two, one, play. Here's the mustache.

Land some place over the rainbow. Then enter Wicked Witch of the West, AKA Ravishing Rick R. The triple threat.

Is I'm on a Lord's of London deal.

Brian Lee has the hots for Francine and vice versa.

I think he thinks, he thinks, he thinks.

In this Never Never land, you can't. Can't click your heels together three times.

I was gonna say, is he in Wonderland? Is he in the hell's he talking about?

There's no great and powerful O get you.

He is in the world of O.

It goes like this. You're a 200.

Oh, goes like this. Like Shane Deis talk goes like this.

And me, I'm 215 pounds of oxy 5. You figure it out.

Oxy 5.

Cocky now. Rick Rude's badass, but every time he blows the kiss, it's like, ah, you up?

Yeah, Right?

Like, why? You don't need to do that anymore.

Yeah, it's like someone should have told them that already.

You're done. You're cool enough to not blow kisses.

At Pick something else. Reinvent yourself. Those chairs. Back when chairs are made of like solid material, right?

Hello.

Joey.

Joey Forehead.

Hey, he's got a. He's got a third eye right in the middle of his forehead.

Everyone, including and especially the franchise Shane Douglas here in ECW, especially after what happened at ECW's historic very first pay per view, Barely Legal bulldozer Brian Lee, a member of Douglas Triple Threat, was shown the money by Rick Rude, who apparently found the weakness in the Triple Threat, the Bulldozer's love of money. The Bulldozer, a hired gun, so to speak, for both the franchise and the former world Heavyweight champion Raven, one of the most dangerous men in this sport, said all along, I'll take anybody out. Show me the money. And Ravishing Rick Rude did. And the triple.

Mary J. Blige.

Speaking of the Triple Threat, Chris Candido had a problem earlier this evening. We hope to bring you highlights of this incident provided our attorneys tell us we can show the footage. Not yet.

Okay.

We may be able to show you that incident. I certainly cannot discuss who is in the footage. All right, back to the Triple Threat. Back to Ravishing Rick Rude. Back to Candido, back to Brian Lee. Yeah, back to the franchise.

Actually, they have attorneys.

Yeah, yeah. Really?

Attorney said this man.

You gotta review the footage. Like. No, that the footage was already cleared. Oh, hello.

Damn.

Nobody's seen the footage. Take a look.

Rick Rude. It's something you love to have, but you're no longer man enough to take.

Take a look.

Rick Rude.

It's something you once had. That's something you're not man enough to show anymore. Take a look. Rick Rud a franchise. It's something you once were.

Why is Rick Root out of shape?

Rick Rude at this point hadn't been actively wrestling for like three years. Right. He hurt his back in Japan and Lloyds of London policy paid paid him handsomely enough that he didn't need to wrestle.

Is that why he's wearing like sweaters and probably.

I mean, I'm not gonna say he's flabby, but he's probably not as ripped as he used to be.

He's not supposed to be touched in the ring.

Yeah.

So the time that he was in WWF wcw, yeah, it was like all around the same time. He wasn't supposed to be touched because of the lloyds of one deal that he had signed which allowed him to get paid but not be touched.

Essentially you're stepping up to the plate and you're sending people to do your dirty work.

And there Was one occasion that.

I.

Think was bad blood in October of 97 where he did get touched. He knows me. It was like, get the away from me because you can't touch me because I'm not supposed to be working. I'm just hearing like head. When an be a manager, leave me alone.

See, it's simple.

What you're looking at is a man.

What you see when you look in.

The mirror.

Is the same thing as woman. Good for nothing.

What a line.

Yeah.

From Douglas. And there's still hyping extreme warfare number one here.

Yep. And they're still showing Benoit bring. And breaking Sabu's neck.

Tampa, Florida explodes as the gangsters collide with Public Enemy. Upstate New York comes alive as the Steiner brothers make their ECW debut. The sand man and Cat is Jack tear down Fort Lauderdale, Florida and each other. It's a barbed wire matchup. Plus first time anywhere in its entirety, the now infamous cat fight between France.

Have we seen. We haven't seen the entirety of that.

We've seen all this.

Yeah, we have.

Oh, this is. They're still on the.

Never mind. Yeah, we've seen. We've seen that going down.

They're saying it's.

I want to see it again.

Bring it to VHS.

Right.

Official souvenir program.

800-854-5831. Better hurry. Supplies are limited.

Team Taz Dojo the path of rage.

Is my path of rage. Oh, Francine Osbula. That's Bueller. Oh, I want that BW shirt.

So they were real, huh?

I want.

Oh, for sure.

They haven't been advertising merchandise like this.

Well, they have.

This seems aggressive.

Yeah, well, now they have hottest stars at this point. Well, they were pumping out that stupid Sabu shirt for a long time. Remember that?

Yeah, the one that he looks like a GI Joe on. There's like whole upper. His upper body is all jacked.

Yeah, I just meant the slit. That was like a lot of product they just pushed. I don't remember them doing that. Like, it would be like here and there, I think. I don't know.

You're right. Yeah. They're pumping new products out. Pay per view just happened, so.

And that was big for them.

Right? Deal.

So now they got to try and sell to those eyes.

But now it's a. It's lame old. Like, look at this Billy Legal poster. Who the wants that?

Hey, it's signed by Taz Sabu.

People had posters. You had posters, bro. You would have bought it. You always.

I was trying to save your ass and you bust My balls. Yeah. But yeah, I had posters all over the place. I know. Poster boy. Poster boy.

Mike Pro.

Dude, I had a poster. Oh my.

The Batman poster.

Didn't you? Yeah, of course I did. Batman, yeah. Which one?

The movie.

Yeah, Batman, 1989. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

The original.

Yeah, yeah.

I don't know if I told this story, so. So Joey Styles right now. I don't think I ever told this.

Hairline.

Whatever. Did I ever talk about the full Joker poster that I have?

I don't think so.

Okay. You might know this. I don't know. I don't think I talked about on a podcast. I had a full door poster.

Raven, the former.

All right. J's not here.

No, I'm here. Tell your story. I don't want to interrupt you.

Oh, I was trying to ask you, do you know about this full Joker poster?

I feel like I remember it.

All right. Oh, well, Raven's talking. Right, everybody? Raven? Yeah.

Shitty promo.

Let's listen to this.

It's crazy how he looks like he's in recovery.

Well, yes, I guess. Is there recovery from being abused by his mom?

Is it that like the. The withdrawal flu?

I don't know what that is, but makes sense. What's a withdrawal? All right, he's not saying anything. I'll shut up.

No.

All right, jv, pump up the volume on this.

Except to take Terry Funk and Tommy Dreamer with me.

Quote for brief.

Stevie Richards, come back. Stevie Richards.

No.

Stevie Richards.

Super.

Kick your ass.

You're welcome.

You up?

You're wanted. I'm proud of you, Stevie. You earned your keep. It's time for one final mission. To burn this place to the ground. To take the Funker out. To kill the dream. Stevie Richards.

All is forgiven.

It's time to come home. I miss you, Stevie. It's okay. All is forgiven. All is forgiven. All is forgiven. Quote, you brother forevermore.

Yeah, kind of suck, I guess.

I don't like.

Yeah, well, we always talk about not liking Raven, but we like Stevie.

Yeah, definitely.

But this, this is not good though. I want to talk about the Joker, but hey, whatever.

All right, so continue on.

Yeah.

Should I score? Yeah. Okay.

The more you stall, the more.

All right, so anyway, Batman, 1989. I loved it. Of course, grew up during that time. And I got this poser. My mom bought it for me. Put it on my door. I put it on the wrong side of the door though, because whatever reason scared the out of her. It was a life size poster of Jack Nicholson as the Joker.

Yeah. All right. Yes. Was It. The door that went to, like, that other room.

It was if. If you remember going to my house, it was the upstairs all the way down the hallway.

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about, that area.

Yeah.

Because upstairs, you went upstairs and then it was your bedroom and then there was that hallway into like another room or something.

The hallway.

The hallway to the back room. To the back of the house.

Right, right. The whole way to the back of the house. Yeah.

Yeah, I do remember this post. I do. All right. So I. I wasn't sure if I was making up the memory because you just started talking about, you know, it happens.

People do that.

And. No, I remember that poster.

So I had. I had that joker poster. And it was on the outside door that wasn't on the inside. But when I was in there, the door was. I swing it on the inside. For whatever reason, my mom came to check on me and the door was like, swung in and she freaked out. She saw a joker. She lost her mind. And that was one of the, I don't know, craziest moments. I think it still affects her to this day.

Traumatized.

Yeah, she's traumatized. There was another time where we lost power in the house for a moment. And she went to. She was in the bathroom and I snuggle behind her with a scream mask. That wasn't nice. I shouldn't have done that. That was terrible. But I had a scream mask on. And she looked up in the mirror in the bathroom and saw my scream mask.

Oh, no.

And she freaked out and she beat the. Out of me.

It.

Yeah, I did deserve it. Now to bring it full circle, I. Within the last year, I bought the joker poster, the wall poster, the door, like, full poster. I have it right now in my room. I'm looking at. I can see it. It's in the tube. I bought it. It costs like 200. I have it.

Keep it in the tube for that price.

Yeah, I'm keeping it in the tube. But should I send it to my mom?

Get her like a small reproduction?

I know she'll remember the whole joke of it.

I'll just take a picture and say, that's creepy, though. Hey, mom, there's a picture.

I don't know. I want to keep it for my own sake because that was my poster. But I wanted to be like, oh, yeah, that's right.

She's really, like, still traumatized her and just rips it.

Yeah.

With the notes.

I don't know. That's funny, though.

You got a tough predicament There.

I think I'll just keep it. I'll probably just send my mom a picture. Hey, I got this.

She comes. Next time she comes over. She kicks your ass again.

Yeah, yeah.

The thing is, my mom lives in North Carolina now.

I know that's.

That's why it's ironic is a Full blooded.

You'd have to send a picture. Like, it's.

I know.

Would you. How would you mail it, though? Just as a surprise or you let her know what's coming?

I don't know. I could just be like, hey, you remember this? Then send it to her. Yeah. Issue your members. Just.

Hey, Happy Halloween.

All right, so I took up a lot of time. What's going on here?

We got. We got Spike Dudley trying to get some sort of disease by licking the ropes. Chetty's like, giving him a pat down, I guess. I don't know. Tommy Rich. They're kissing each other.

We got an Italian grinder over there.

Yep.

Farmer jeans, bro. What a.

What a.

What a. What a moment. What a moment in time. That farmer jeans were popular.

Were they though?

Were they ever cool? Well, they're cool for chicks, I guess, right?

They weren't cool, but they were popular.

And crisscross.

You had farma jeans.

No, I had Farma jeans, yeah. No way. I had carpenter jeans. Remember that?

Yeah.

Copper jeans you never had in like first or second grade?

No.

First or second grade, maybe.

Oh, yeah. Jv. You. You're right.

Yeah. No, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. And you had them too. So that's why you said.

Said I didn't set those up. No, because I said, you ever have farmer jeans? And you're like, no.

And it's like, yeah, yeah.

You had to.

Yeah, we did.

We definitely like a staple for a kids art.

Yeah. We all look like the kid from Tow's Play. Andy.

Andy. Yeah, yeah.

Andy had.

Chucky. Doesn't Chucky is Chucky rock Farmer jeans. Are those considered.

F jeans?

Little kids still. I'm talking about now. Remember when teenagers were wearing farmer jeans? That's when we were younger.

Girls wearing.

We were little kids.

I remember dudes wearing them.

Well, not many dudes, man. You know what I mean?

I don't know. I thought it was like a. Like a cultural hip hop thing.

Yeah, it was a hip hop thing.

Yeah.

It wasn't us.

No, no.

Because we were kids. I'm saying, like, the. The kids older than us were wearing that. You know, I remember that. I remember thinking like, wow, he's.

Oh, give me a name.

I don't know. A Name. Older. Older. Upperclassmen.

Older people.

Okay. How old. How old were you?

Third grade.

Okay. All right. Do you, like, eight?

Yeah.

All right.

Yeah, it's like an early 90s. So the teenagers in the early.

Right. They were. They were in there. No, there's no crisscross. And.

I remember kids at CUS wearing former jeans and thinking like, wow. No, it's crazy. Some people didn't have the strap down. And instead of both.

Yeah, yeah, some people did.

I mean, women look hot.

The girls mostly did.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I remember a girl named Tara. Tara Walsh. Put it out there. She had it. She had a red pair. How crazy. How crazy is my memory? Oh, my God. Yeah. Tara Walsh. She had a red pair of.

Now, now you're saying that I'm going like, Okay, I. I can picture a couple of. Couple of girls.

Yeah.

In, like, middle school wearing. Wearing the overalls, you know, the farmer jeans. You know, whatever.

One hook off.

One right. One hook off.

Snaps the arm over the top rope. Nicely done by Spike Dudley. In comes Chetty. Takes over where Spike Dudley left off. And thus far, pretty cohesive unit of Chetty and Spike Dudley. Making quick tags, income, Tracy Smothers, Drop to hold.

I just looked up a pair of farmer jeans. It's mad funny that they have, like, bibs built into them.

They have what?

Something like. Like the. The chest patch on the top part of the farmer Jeep is so funny. It's like pockets. I don't remember that.

What? A pocket right in the chest.

Yeah.

I feel like I remember there was.

Always a pocket in the middle.

Yeah, I forgot about that. That's not how I was picturing them.

Yeah.

Like on the chest, you guys, it's.

The same as Chucky, dude.

You have to see how it's marketed on Amazon. When you go through the pictures, the picture, different ways you can wear it.

They'Re showing you. You can wear it this way or this way. Yeah. Or maybe even this way.

You can wear it with the straps totally down or just hanging.

This guy must wear it with a shirt. You can wear it without a shirt.

How the can I get used this.

Screenshot, and that's not even like a big deal. Like, dude, there are people, girls that wear jeans. They're wearing jeans, and the jeans are totally cut the up.

There's. There's. There's. There's less material than an actual pair of jeans should have.

Yeah. There's nothing. It's like they're wearing rip holy ripped jeans. I know. When we were younger. Yeah, you had ripped jeans. You had little cuts and you need jeans and whatnot.

Yeah, the knees was like.

These are ripped.

They just strips of denim.

Right? Why the you even wearing it? Hey, what the is this?

I'm sharing this.

A girl's just wearing ripped jeans, like ripped legs. Her legs are just hanging out. It's like, what's the point of this other material around you stupid. All right, jb, what are you gonna say?

Hey, check. I. I just tagged you. Look at the cuffs on the bottom of this guy's farma jeans I just tagged. I just shared it with both you guys.

All right, let me see.

He has like size 46 inch length VA jeans on.

There.

Oh, man.

Too high for this. Did you guys see it yet?

No, man, I don't think you sent it. Yeah, I did.

I shared it with you on the drive. Google Drive.

Oh, Google Drive. Okay. It's a chat, man.

The Skype. Because I'm doing it from my phone.

Going to the drive.

I'm not. I don't. I don't think I have Skype on my phone either, so. Big Body slam by Little Guido.

Yeah, Big body slam by Little Guido on Little Spike.

Ooh, these guys got some. Got some chemistry.

Yeah.

Yeah, It's a good team. Oh, he just. I haven't watched wrestling in like two hours.

Oh, I. I caught some of it today.

I meant ecw, checking.

Oh, you were today.

No, I'm saying I didn't watch any of this that we're covering, cuz we're just talking. But I did want to watch Bad Blood without Double D from WWF or WWE at this time. I don't know what happened, but.

Just.

My random stupid guess as a random wrestling fan watching Roman Reigns. He's gonna turn on Cody Rhodes during a tag team match against.

No, he doesn't. Spoiler.

No, he doesn't.

Okay, no, but Mark Mero shows up as Johnny B. Bad.

Hey, it can't be Bad Blood without Johnny Be Bad without.

Without the bad man.

I'm a bad man.

Johnny Be Bad. That guy's smile was huge.

Everybody thought he was black.

Yeah, we all did.

Yeah, he was just a white dude.

He was just an Italian. Yeah, from New York. Not making Georgia.

You see the way Guido held on to Spike Utley after he tagged in Smothers? He is being schooled very, very well by Tracy Smothers and Tommy Rich.

God, Tracy Smothers is such a. Such a great wrestler.

He is. Oh, we're talking here.

That's something you can't say on TV nowadays.

Can't say, I don't know if this would be an insult to you, Rick, but you are Spike Dudley of Wrestling Podcast.

All right. How so?

I just think. Ah, you like Spike Dudley?

I'll take that.

I don't know why he was a trainer.

Yeah, you don't do the wrestling moves, you know.

You know the. Was that Chris Chetty?

Oh.

Did you guys see that?

I saw the flip over the top.

Yeah. He was nowhere near Tracy Smothers.

Oh, this was a up spot too. The doy do.

Yeah. Redneck Karate.

That was not a jaw jacker.

There's K Gr.

C gr.

And there's a fist in the back of the neck of Chetty. Chetty gets the boots up, Guido. But Wildfire still hanging on to the rookie. Chris Chetty smothers back, drop to the outside. Wildfire brought into the ring. Wildfire closed like.

And this match is getting some excitement here.

Yeah, this is actually a really good match.

Oh, and it's over.

Oh, that was good. I don't care. That was good wrestling.

It was.

That was a good ending.

Chris Chetty. Chris Chetty is a cousin of Taz, right?

Correct.

Brothers. Despite the outside interference from Wildfire, Tommy.

Rich.

Way to hell.

So La Vendetta Smothers and Rich can look that up. Continues between Chetty and the full blooded Italians. And I'm now being told that when we come back, we will be able to to show you that controversial footage involving Chris Candido and a member from his personal life. Now, another great moment in a legendary career. One of my memories here at Extreme championship wrestling and 1. Cactus Jack will never forget the return of the Funker. Another headbutt by Cat is the Sandman Stagger. Remember?

Remember?

All right, so what do we got going on here?

Just great moments in a legendary career.

So all of a sudden they give a about Cactus Jack. Pisses me off. It's like the MLB all of a sudden giving a about Pete Rose.

Right.

I know he died.

Oh, all these great things go yourself.

Basically ruined his life.

You made him an like, all he was trying to do the rest of his life was try to stay relevant because you didn't let him be relevant. And even with one of the promotional shows for the playoffs, like, oh, who's this? And it was all like snarky off. This is the best baseball player ever. Like, really ever. I don't want to get into the weeds about it, but he is the best baseball player ever.

Yeah.

Based on stats, based on everything. Nobody's ever gonna beat his records either. That's how good he is, but because of some. We're not gonna let him in now. Now. Oh, we're gonna be nice to him Yourself, right? It's a lifetime band. Lifetime band. So of course now they'll let him in, right? Because he's dead, right?

Because he's not alive.

Right.

They don't have to share any money with him, right?

That too, yeah.

They better help his family out some. Like, otherwise, you. Pete Rose doesn't need to be in a hall of fame because he's better than the hall of fame. How can you be the guy with the most hits ever?

Yeah.

And one of his things was like, he mentioned something about hard too, right? He mentioned another thing. Maybe it was Derek Jeter, I think. Oh, you. You might have a lot of base hits, but those hits don't matter. Like, like.

Yeah, who said that?

P. Rose said something to like Derek Jeter about. Yeah, you have a lot of singles as hits, but they don't matter. Something to that effect where it was like, yeah, those hits don't count.

How many singles did Pete Rose have?

Oh, he probably had a ton too. But that's, that's just his attitude. You know what I mean?

Right? He's just, he's just like, singles don't count.

It's Barely legal.

Hey, jv.

And he was probably being self deprecating too, like, yeah, that's shitty. A single is a shitty hit.

I still don't think he's better than Barry Bonds.

I mean, well, they belong. They're in the same category, these guys.

Yeah, they're both getting. But one's the real greatest player of all time.

Well, Pete Rose is the greatest player. No. All right, Pete, Roses you can have.

I will. I'll take Barrett Bonds all day.

Oh, dude.

Yeah. 99.9.

Totally different baseball.

This evening, Mr. Candido was entering the building. The member of his personal life. This was caught on tape, this incident.

Perhaps Mr. All right, Rick, were you asking something?

Hadn't been caught on tape because he was with his.

Oh, that's my question. No, we haven't heard this.

No, I wasn't asking JV a question. I was just saying I found the. I got that picture that he sent of the farmer jeans.

Oh, yeah, Forgot I sent that.

Oh, hey, it's Tammy.

Oh, look at Tammy. Tammy looks cute here.

She does.

I like her in the little jeans.

And a. Yeah, the hair pulled back.

What's going on, my life. Well, you're getting double teamed and Rob Van Damon just pinched your girl's ass.

Check.

She was about to take down that rvd.

Yeah, yeah, she had that rvd.

Randick.

Yeah, exactly.

I was trying to come up with something better, but.

Since this program began.

The franchise, she'd probably bang Joey Styles.

I don't know, dude. Missy.

No, Sonny's more. Well, you're right, Rick, because.

Yeah.

What'S her name? Wyatt. She being Wayne.

Yeah, Wayne Arnold.

And he's a midget.

Yeah, he is.

A big bushy. Here.

Yeah.

Do the Hound. I guess anybody that was semi famous, let me attach myself to this guy.

Yeah.

Oh, but he stuck around too, because he apparently became like, Eric Bischoff's partner.

Yeah, he's got that Wonder Years money.

Wonder Years money.

Not quite you money, but, you know.

Why would you do.

I mean, you know, to going back to Missy. She. She did do a segment on WCW TV called Missy does the Mail.

The one male.

Yeah.

Who's the. Who's the male?

Well, whoever. Whoever was that week. Oh, that was gorgeous. That back. That suplex. He. He took a great bump on that. Oh, no, not so much.

Well, of course, because he sucks all the time, right? But even in this little shitty thing, like, he can't have a good spot. It's like. Oh, man. And why, like, what is this? We're gonna wear matching clothes here? Like Tazwear and plaid shorts. You see this? Sabu has matching shorts.

No, he doesn't. He's got his. He's got like, sparkly pants.

Okay.

Yeah, he's got like. Like wizard of Oz emerald green pants.

All right. Yeah, I see it now. What the up with Taz's shorts there?

Yeah, those are funny. Like, golf shorts.

I was just gonna say that. It looks like he. It looks like he's on his way to his tea time.

Taboo has not forgotten about his broken nose, courtesy of Taz.

All right, so this is one of the new occasions where we have Golfonzo with Ravin Dam and Sabo since fairly legal, it is. With a bunch of jerk offs.

Yeah.

And now we get another jerk off in the ring here. Oh, we gotta give him a takedown right here. Break his arm.

Northern Lights T. No bridge. All impact. I love that.

No bridge. Great line. Candido's here too.

Yeah, it's bleach blonde.

Like, totally striped, too.

Yeah, they look like they're in an air. An airline hanger. You know, an aircraft hanger.

Yeah. Taz is ready to jet Set is out. Marty here. I got a flight. It's my comfy shorts.

Those do look like comfy shorts.

They do.

I want to be that kind of.

Something like that. Chris Candido being a boy. I love it. Boy. Jamie, is that the line from penguin?

Will you be a pussy boy?

I don't know. Maybe I don't remember penguins. All right, let's listen to this.

Just like I don't need anybody else. I don't need you. I don't need Team Taz, I don't need the wrestlers to support me, and I sure as hell don't need to fan hands. I need some hokey baby face that's looking for support. Why in the world.

Get your booty on the floor. Got a call up. Get down. All right, so yeah, you just heard me talk nonsense there. That was coolio. Joey Styles is talking. Apparently we don't give a what he's.

Saying every day to begin with, but.

Jimmy, do you remember in the penguin episode when his mother was calling him.

A. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. Okay, that's it.

You little boy. You watched the second episode. It was good.

Yes, I watched both.

I haven't seen it yet.

Oh, you haven't? I'll be watching tomorrow.

I gotta watch it tomorrow. Alex hasn't been able to watch it yet cuz they got to watch Big Brother. All these stupid reality shows. That's the thing, like being married is like, you gotta like make time to watch shows. It's like part of the schedule. Who's this? Rick. Rick, what's this?

All right, so Corporal Punishment is a guy. His real name is Dan McDevitt. He's also billed as Comet Slash the Ultimate Comet. He was trained by Axel Rotten.

Oh, great. The. That mean.

That means that he probably have his. Has his fundamentals, but he down pretty well pat. But he, he chooses to just get hit in the head a lot until he has cte.

They both look like a Balls Mahoney. Yeah, I don't know this. What's this other guy wearing? Fatigues.

Yeah, he's wearing. He's supposed to be wearing fatigues with his face painted like, you know, army guy.

Yeah, stalker.

Yeah, basically he's recording.

The other guy looks like a mini Balls Mahoney or. Yeah, because he got the jeans cut short his ass out.

Yeah. Well, that is Balls Mahoney, so.

Oh, it is.

Okay.

All right, all right. Yes, sorry.

Punishment.

I. I like gain some weight.

Yeah. So he, he was just kind of. I don't want to say a local guy per se, but he was a guy that was working the indies.

There's more to Balloney than meets the eye. Reversal on the Irish.

Yeah.

Boot to the base.

I'm sorry that I up with Bozzani.

Oh, that's all right. Apparently he also is a. He's trained guys. It doesn't say who, but. And he was a promoter, as a promoter, so he's still in the business even though he's not wrestling.

Always remind me of a knockoff Cactus Jack, which I think most people would think, you know, think thinking back now, it's like, oh, why would you say that? But at the time, it's like so close, Right? Like he is almost like a Cactus Jack because mankind is only just coming off at this point.

Yeah.

And in late 95, Balls Mahoney was in as Xanta Claus. Which Mankind? Cactus Shaq. Big Foley. He probably would have loved to be Xantha Claus. Oh, yeah, that's one of his gimmicks, cuz he loves Christmas. He probably wanted to be Santa Claus.

Hits the Ste. But corporal punishment can barely stand up. Who can blame him?

All right, so is there anything else to talk about?

Success? Yeah. Other than the fact of Balls Mahoney gave him two pretty stiff chair shots to the head.

Oh, he did.

And the guy did not put his hands up either intentionally or not. I don't care.

Stevo. Yeah, this is some of the worst.

He does kind of look like Stevo. That's right. Yeah.

Oh my God, this guy gave him clothesline. Horrible. Don't even tell me. He gets.

I mean, he might be concussed. That's the thing.

No, he might be something else. It just doesn't belong. Look at him. He's acting like me jumping off my couch, trying to give an elbow drop to my macho man wrestling buddy. That's what. That's what he is. He just realized, oh, I'm in the wrestling ring right now. This guy have any background, Corporal?

It's just he's just like an indie worker guy, basically.

Nothing else, though.

No. Like, I don't. I don't know if he even ever did jobs on, like, you know, tv.

Well, it looks like he's about to do a job, so let's see you do what jobs. Oh, oh, what's that bleeped out sign into that?

I was gonna say that. I just noticed that I'm like, what is.

Center of the ring?

He's going to sit down and lay down for a balls drop. Ball drop. That's what I call it, the ball drop, man. One, two, three. Get the out of here.

Get the out of here.

B. Mahoney with no real gimmick. At this point, no. Oh, well, they're playing the music. Is this retroactive or is that. Because if not, we gotta play it, right?

Yeah.

Come on. Come on. If you got it or not.

All right, so we got Terry Funk cutting the promo. This is retro.

Come on, Dreamer. Don't take it from him.

Rick. Did you watch the Mr. McMahon series yet?

No, I haven't had time too.

There was a segment that Tommy Dreamer was backstage. It was weird because like, everybody was like mentioning everybody was backstage, but nobody ever said, oh, Tommy Dreamer was backstage in grill position.

Huh.

It's like, oh, what the. No respect. I thought if you saw it, you'd notice that. Yeah. When you watch it, there's a scene.

All right, cool. Which. Which episode's it in?

I don't know. It became a blur after watching. Yeah, six episodes. It was. I think it was towards the later half. Like the four, five or six.

Gotcha.

Check out the historic battle of the Bam Bam as Bam Bam Bigelow takes on Terry. Bam Bam Bam.

Oh, here it is. This is.

The arena.

Look at those peep holes. Glory holes.

Yeah.

Dildos sticking out. Imagine at the CYO Center. Yeah. Not going over all this.

Nope. Downington, the Farmers Market. Ecw. Chapter two.

Oh, Chapter two.

That is going to be a shitty match. A four way dance for the belt.

At this point we are going to recap the incident that occurred earlier on this program. Man, am I glad that your dad is a lawyer.

That was said. Me too.

Well, no, because he said, am I glad your dad's a lawyer? And that that was Paul going. Me too.

Candido with one arm. You've got to give him credit for guts. Gets in the ring and makes a public challenge to Rob Van Dam, who accepts it, but of course has Sabu. And Bill Alphonso about five steps behind him. Here comes T. Taking his time. A leisurely stroll through the park like he was there to save Chris. Candido took the time to wipe his street shoes on the ring apron. Tosses Van Damme. Toss the Sabu tosses Candido. We know what Candido is thinking. Now it's time to find out what alfonso Sabu and Mr. Monday Night Bob Dammer thinking.

All right, let's listen to this.

Can't stand you. In fact, I hate your guts because every time you got a little something wrong with you, you ain't home and cried. Look at this man, he's extreme. He goes to tables, he goes to Japan. He gets chest this big. Ted, you're nothing but a loser. I made you I put you in the magazines. I got your contracts. In fact, I own you. I hate your guts. You turned on me. Or did I turn on you, brother? Listen, stop all this talk about pants. Listen, man, we're the family, huh?

I'm serious. Wrestling promoters, Rob Van Dam. Here is the shirt.

I've got your attention. Directors, rolling footage.

This is Rob Van Dam in action. Now, we need that speaks for itself.

And I know you've seen me in.

Action before, and I know that you're thinking you'd like to have this on your Monday night show. Listen, here's a situation. Any Monday night, give me a call. I'm kind of looking forward to taking.

It a little bit easier, if you know what I mean.

Not that I'm not a hard worker, but I gotta be honest with you. I'm 26 years old. I don't need to have band aids and tape all over me and be all scarred up.

Shots fired to the guy right behind him.

Right? Hey, it works for you.

You can almost smell the whiskey and cigarettes on his breath.

Fonzie.

Yeah.

Yeah. Ah, that's great. That's awesome. Promo.

That was a great promo. Rv trying to hype himself up. Hey, I'm available on Mondays. And that way I'm kind of looking forward to it. I don't have to work so hard. Not that I'm not a hard worker.

Right.

And just setting up son of a.

A promo in a feud between Sabu and rvd.

Right.

Like, yeah, I'll take it easy.

I don't want to get all scarred up.

I don't want to be up like this guy.

Yeah, exactly.

Ah, yeah. So that's awesome. All right, so you guys want to take a break before we continue on? Yeah.

Yeah.

All right.

And grab more candy, whatever that means.

Candy?

Yeah, like Halloween candy.

Halloween candy. What the you think it means?

Reese's Pieces.

Yeah, like real candy. Okay, I'm going to get nose candy.

No.

All right. Yeah, getting candy. We'll be right back.

I'd die if I didn't know candy.

Yeah, Never tried it.

Me either.

I did.

I know you did. It's awesome. It's the best. I know. You've told me. I was always afraid. Like, if I try, I'm gonna die, so I'm not gonna do it.

I was just always afraid of getting addicted and even.

Valid. Valid concern, even.

What was the drug? We talked about it before.

Mushrooms.

No, no mushrooms.

The Molly Ecstasy.

Yeah, that was the one. I mean, go crazy. Yeah, Like, I should never done that. Running around the Four of them. Like I was in a Mario game, just running around looking for my car like it was a game. And then get in the car and drive it, too. Right. What the. Oh. All right, let's take a break. Yeah, we'll be back. Like I'm talking. We'll be right back.

Okay.

Well, I'm upper, upper class, high society, God's gift to ballroom notoriety.

And I always fill my ballroom. The event is never small.

The social pages say I've got the biggest balls alone. I've got big balls. I've got big balls. I have such big balls and I've dirty big balls. And he's got big balls and she's got big balls. But we've got the biggest balls. And my balls are always bouncing and.

My ballroom always full.

And everybody comes and comes again. If your name is on the guest list, no one can take you higher. Everybody says I've got great balls on fire. I've got big balls. Oh, I've got big balls. Such big balls. Dancing big balls. And he's got big balls and she's got big balls. But they've got the biggest corn. Some balls are held for charity and.

Some for fancy dress. But when they're held for pleasure, they're the balls that I like best.

My balls are always bouncing to the.

Left and to the right.

It's my belief that my big ball.

Should be held every night.

We've got big balls, We've got big balls. We've got big balls. Balls, Dancy. Big balls. He's got big balls. She's got big balls and we've got the biggest balls on the wall. We got big balls, we got big balls and I'm just itching to tell you about them. And we have this wonderful, fun seafood cocktail. Crabs, grayfish, foreign.

We're back now for the next episode of ECW Hardcore TV. And we are covering ECW Hardcore TV episode 210 from April 29, 1997. And if you're gonna check this out on Peacock, It's Peacock Season 5, Episode 18. And it's April 29th there. But if you're gonna find this anywhere else, it might be tagged as May 1, 1997, because of, you know, syndication was all random, but yeah. So generally, just go with April 29, 1997. We're going to watch along with this on the Internet Archive. If you want to watch along with us, check it out there. Got a run time of 55 minutes and 33 seconds. And this show that we're watching has matches from April 25, 1997, and April 26, 1997. And both of these shows are from Massachusetts. One show was in Walam or Waltham. Walam. Brick. Walam. Walam. Waltham.

Waltham.

I said it wrong both times. Right. I said Walam. I can never get it right. The north part of Massachusetts. Sorry, guys. Sorry. And people from the north and say south, Massachusetts. You guys are basically Rhode Islanders. All right, so it's Waltham. Waltham.

Waltham.

Little drag on that. Waltham. Yeah. Until you listeners, this is just an example of how crazy our language is and how even within the same state, we only have the same accents. We can't pronounce words. The same towns.

Yeah. And the fact of, like, Waltham ends tham we have a town called Hingham that ends in GH AM it's the only random. Yeah, the. The only thing is, like, the only way to describe it is it's random. Like. Yeah, you don't say Hingham. It's Hingham, but it's not Waltham. It's weird. It makes no sense.

Right. And it should be Ham. It should always be pronounced Ham, but it's sometimes whatever the. You know, because a ham is a hamlet, like Hamill is a small town. That's where it originates from, but the pronunciation just gets all skewed. Yeah. And then the next town that we go to is Revere. No, that. That sounds more like probably Kevin Sullivan type thing. Yeah, we're a Revere. Reverence. Revere.

Revere.

I don't think we have any discrepancies on, you know, how we pronounce that. Right.

Right. I think that's. That's pretty standard across the board, at least. At least in our. Yeah. I don't know about out west, because they're like, you know, like. Like you said, you sell shore of Massachusetts, you're basically Rhode Islanders. The people out west are basically New Yorkers or Connecticut peoples.

Right. Yeah. So other than saying Revere, you might say Revere. River, River. River.

Revere. Put an accent.

It's funny. Like, JV and I were both from a city called Fall river, but we always say Fall river or River. So, like, numerous times, you know, throughout my life, like, meeting people from other places. Oh, where are you from? River. Massachusetts, Like, Florida, I think. Florida.

What the hell? This? You just say Florida.

Massachusetts. What now? Fall River.

Florida.

I don't know. Either it makes us look like idiots or it makes us seem attractive. I don't know.

Why not? Both?

Yeah.

Attractive.

Two idiots.

Yeah.

All right. So anyway, we're gonna get into the show and it's from Massachusetts and two up towns. All right.

Really?

Two fucked up towns, if you really want to think about it.

Yeah.

But anyway, let's get to it. So let's get right into our segments here and I'll give a countdown. As always, I'll count down three down to one and say play. When I say play, we all click play. 3, 2, 1, play.

Here we go.

All right. Oh, Candido is finally walking in. Let's take a listen.

This. This is what we just saw. No.

Yeah. So recapping it, you're gonna get a credit card.

What's going on? My life. Your girls banging everybody. That's what's going on.

Your girl's a hoo.

He's a hooa.

That's why. Obviously just pinched her ass. Imagine that, pinching someone's ass. That's like a such a high school thing. Like it really is. I pinch a picture girl's ass.

Yeah. Or it's like the. Like sack tapping somebody.

What is it? What's it called?

Sack tapping.

Sack tapping.

What's that like when. When you like walk by somebody and you just kind of like backhand them in the nuts.

Oh. Oh, okay. Gotcha. Yeah. Luckily nobody did that to me.

I doubt it, bro. You hung out with Marty.

Oh, no, mommy, I didn't do that to me.

Marty.

Net. You never got a nut check from someone? I don't believe that. I probably done it.

You never not checked me, guaranteed.

Maybe for three years and.

Yeah, but we were like the instigators. I don't know. Maybe you did. I don't know.

We'd argue sometimes.

Yeah. I never chopped you walk home together. Of course.

Massachusetts.

Walk to school late.

Stop it. My zil.

Yep. Get some garlic bread on the way.

Joey Styles back on the scene. I had those same type style of glasses.

No. That's why I call you Joey Styles. It's cuz he looked just like him at those frames. And if you could wear a suit to school every day, you would have.

I could wear a suit? Oh, you mean.

Oh, yeah. It was always funny because the first day of school when you were in shop, you wore a full dicky suit.

Question.

All right.

I gotta wear my full dicky suit.

I had the dicky shirt, dicky pants, still toe boots on. I was dressed in the nines for exploratory.

Was this when you were in school?

Yeah, it's freshman. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay.

Like, you know, you like.

Gotcha.

Explore all the different shops it is.

And it is his woman that he's with to this day. Busted his balls the first day of school.

Yeah. Look at this kid.

Yeah, she's. She's the aro. She's my. My grade. She doesn't let loot. Like. She doesn't hold anything back. She busted his balls.

She's a ball buster.

Still. Look at this kid.

Got a hot rock cafe denim jacket on.

What a. Oh, Tommy. Is that Tommy Rich?

That is.

Tell me you have a gambling problem, but I'll tell me you have a gambling problem.

Well, if you want to know. Hot rock. Yeah. If you want hard rock shirt, that means you got it for free. First off, somebody earned that. But look at Tracy swallows. He's the man.

Yeah, he is.

These guys rule. They'd be over today. Oh, dude, they'd probably be over more today.

Oh, I love Tracy's mothers and little Guido at this point, right?

Yeah.

He comes. Nunzio bwo. How can he. We're taking over Supernova. Where's his beard? What happened? He shaved. I don't know about that. All right, so is this. Is this Revere?

This is Revere. This is the one. This must be at the Wonderland dog park. Yeah. Oh, yeah, look, the open ceiling.

Yeah, yeah, that open ceiling. Yeah. Asbestos above that.

Yeah. Part of the reason they probably tore it down.

You can't even go off the top rope in this joint.

And Hollywood Nova will be going it alone.

Fake Dennis Rodman, too. Yeah, what was his name? Right.

Thomas the Inchworm. Rodman.

Looks more like Chris Tucker in.

That sci fi movie Fifth Element.

Oh, Fifth. Yeah, that was his breakout movie. Really? Chris Tucker wasn't in Edison before that.

Yeah, you're right.

But then he went on to Rush hour.

Ladies and gentlemen, contest is scheduled for one fall. Number one, accompanied to the ring by.

The Big D. The Big Dong. The Big Dong.

I thought. I. I think it's supposed to be dawn, but it definitely sounded like he said the big dong.

Well, they miss opportunity if it's not big dong, because that's what it should be, really. The big Dong.

Dongy Rich dong.

Tommy Rich. Yeah, Big dong. Tommy Rich. Sicily. Oh, they should be talking about stones.

Yeah.

Little Guido.

Little Guido.

Look at this guy's in the front row. You. Hey, up yours. Up yours. In the toilet. Lawnmower. Mother is awesome. Can't deny him.

Yeah.

Why is this taking forever, by the way? Are we watching a pay per view or what the. You know what I mean. Like, you would think this would be part of a actual show. Like we Just watched. Was Barely Legal before, but this is just a episode.

Yeah.

Supernova. It's totally a kiss, dude.

Oh, yeah.

Ace Freely. I got pictures on my wall. My favorite Rock and Kiss. Any.

All right.

Ring the bell. Hey, big chance for bwo.

I mean, they're kind of cool.

Oh, definitely. If I was at an ECW show right here, I would. I'd buy that shirt. That's what I would get. Right? I don't know what you guys would get, but I'll be all about that BWO shirt.

Oh, yeah. I. I would have.

Oh, yeah. Hollywood Nova trying to shake Little Guido finally does shoulder block.

I hate to say I. I like these teams. I like these guys, but this wrestling match is pretty shitty.

It's. It's very boring.

It's. It's just like, every spot is, like, so. You know what I mean? It's, like, so segmented.

Right? And it's all real basic stuff.

Right. That's what I mean about it is it's so basic that it's just, like, predictable.

It's. It's like how you would. Yeah, well, that's what I was gonna say. How you doing in, like, a training session, you know.

Not that we have any experience, but I think we've watched enough wrestling.

Yeah.

To know. Well, just doing some practices now. That makes a difference. Like somebody like Tracy Smothers works the crowd then. Okay, cool. Y. That changes things up. Get some heat.

Why don't you tag in the fat boy? All right. The match has already gotten better just by Tracy saying that.

Hey, we're talking about Blue Meanie being a fat guy. I've seen girls that look like that wearing the same outfit, so. Yeah.

No lies detected.

Same shape, same everything. Even less titties, too, by the way. No on the blue guy here.

Right?

Look at Tracy.

Tracy doing a little dick dancing.

That's cool. Great. It's awesome. Oh, jeez. That was stumbling, bubbling. But, hey, worked out.

Really.

Oh, man, this is fun. I like this match.

Yeah, it started off kind of awkward, but it's. It's gotten better.

Arm drag. Arm drag. Hip toss. Blue guy pose.

So well.

What?

That was a random cut. Yeah.

That's terrible editing.

All right, so we got a commercial. WWF announcer found arrested in late mid 97. Who's that?

I don't know.

Was it Jim Ross?

Yeah. Jerry Lawler.

Could have been.

Live.

All right, so does this Asbury park?

Yep.

Sandman versus Raven versus BWO Stevie. That's what they said. BW Stevie.

Yeah.

Out of here. Franchise versus Bulldozer we're seeing any of this May 2nd. It might be someone on hardcore TV. Yeah, not positive. Special appearance by ravishing Rick Rude who needs to off. And he's lucky he didn't get loses deal with Lloyd's of London. Yeah, he's too involved with wrestling.

Exactly.

If anyone's paying attention to that, they had any concern about that deal, they gotta shut that down. Like, no, you shouldn't be working.

Right.

You shouldn't be doing anything. Yeah. You're not wrestling, you're working. I should have been on commentary or something like that. If you're gonna work, you need to be on commentary. You can't be character Taz making appearances. Well, who the hell would want to meet Taz, though? Like, tell us. Go yourself, brother. You wanna. You wanna get a contract and some. You want me to. You up in Somerset, New Jersey. This fake ass Kiss song though, pretty cool. I wanna bite the hand up be you. So you my kids today, we're at a. A function for school and they were playing like, you know, modern music, but it was. It's kids pop.

Oh, you know, I'm sorry you had to hear that.

Yeah. And T was like, I hate. I hate kids pop. They just copy everyone's song. I was like, honey. Yeah, I know. I get it. It's. But they're not copying it. They pay for it. I'm trying to like, explain it, and she doesn't care. It's like they just copy it. It's not good. Like, relax. So when I hear that, it's like, ah, whatever. They're just trying to not get sued.

Right.

You want to get sudden. All right, so we're back to the match here, which I thought would be over by now. I did like the match, but after that commercial break, I don't like it. Supernova. What's going on here? You're not so super anymore. Thinking like, dumper over dumping over what the. With Rivia. Like, these posts in the way. Like, at least if you're gonna have these posts, try to line them up with the corners of the ring. Yeah, you have a ring post and then you have another ring post. You see, Talking to myself.

No, we're here.

You know what I'm saying, though?

I'm actually enjoying this.

Yeah.

Oh, you are?

Yeah. I don't know why. I think it's the.

Tell us about it then.

The match.

Yeah.

I don't know. I just. I like. I like watching Guido and.

Tracy. Yeah. Oh, Nova in the. He looks like James Helwick.

He looks Like, Jim. Jim.

Helwig. Nova.

Yeah. Look at him. Like, out of shape.

Like, fat.

Yeah, that's great. Okay.

Oh, my God. You're right.

If. If he just gave up.

Yeah.

1992. He just is a. Out. I'm supernova now. Oh, look at that little roll up.

That.

That was funny. Like, these guys are so here. It's probably, like, 33.

Yeah. Yeah. He looks 45.

I was gonna say, though, like, these guys are so small that Tracy Smothers looks like Sid justice in the ring.

Yeah, he does.

Doing drop kicks.

Tracy would have been 34.

Hey.

Yeah.

You're all right.

I'm pretty close.

Yeah.

Dude, we're all so much older than that.

I know.

Hey, but would any of us do a drop kick in the middle of the ring right now or even six years ago? I don't think so.

No. I mean, I'm like. I'm not gonna lie. If. If somebody was like, hey, dude, I got a wrestling ring. You want to go around in it? I consider it.

I wish. Yeah.

Yeah.

It's never an.

Conduct.

Based on what I did for work. It was never like I was going to do that anyway. So.

Yeah.

Like, oh, I'm gonna. I'm gonna work. Work the shows. No, out of here. Have time. Referee.

The. Up on the ring apron and Rich with something.

Yeah. What was that? Brass knuckles.

Yeah. Well, yeah.

Oh, yeah, Tracy. Yeah, the brass knuckles.

Yeah.

Hiding in the trunks.

I think Tommy Rich hit. Hit Meanie with the. With the knucks.

Staying Alive music. All right, big note. Staying alive.

Staying. It's a remix of Staying Alive that they use, like, a techno remix or some.

All right, we're gonna. That's outro for sure. I love me some bee geese. I know JV's dad loves some Bee Gees, right? Oh, yeah.

I like the Bee Gees.

I like the Bee Gees.

Stay in live remix, right?

Yeah.

Think that Richard would ever go back.

After this? You know, this episode is after the previous one, and the previous episode we. We debuted Je. Black Hair.

Yeah.

Yes.

So, Rick, what was your thought of that?

What? The jet black hair.

You talk about it a little bit, but.

Yeah. No, I mean, I. I thought it was a. It was. It could have been a hit. Like, it's a. That was a good. Damn good song.

It's funny that, you know, JV's brother has brought it up multiple times, like, in our chats. And jb, your brother's like, saying, oh, I have people telling me, like, this should be on the radio, like, oh, another Thing that one of his students actually told him, like, oh, this sounds like a song that would be on in Old Navy. I was like, yes, yes. That means it's good. If it could just be a song in Old Navy, then we won like bringing the money in. Come on.

Oh, yeah. I couldn't tell you the last time I was in an Old Navy to begin with, but it's definitely. It's definitely that kind of music.

Yeah. Oh. All right, we got the eliminates. Let's take a listen to some random Saturn and some laughs from Cronus where they belong in the possession.

See how Cronus sounds.

And Cronus.

To be Saturn sounds constipated.

Yeah. That should.

You have to beat the best tag team in the world.

There's only one.

With that, the path to victory is blocked with an unpassable obstacle.

Total elimination.

Yeah. Total elimination. Yeah. Total elimination. How many licks does it take to get to the inside of a toots year old pop? A one, a three, a three. Three time world tag team champions.

He's underrated.

Yeah, he plays that slightly loopy guy great.

It works.

I don't.

I don't know why he never got picked up that like. What the man. Cronus deserves a spot in wwe, right? Come on. Oh, this is the. The video. The House of Pain, right? Is this House of Pain?

Yeah. Fed up by House of Pain.

And this was made for the illuminators, right?

I believe so, yes. Or at least they like, you know, obviously licensed it.

Yeah.

Or had some sort of an agreement.

Don't make me smack your dumbass. It's good life. Oh, and the big thing that's underrated about Cronus is like all the way. He lost and done such great shape during this time and even before that. He can do these handsprings, do all the moves, but I don't. You never got any attention. I don't get it. And there's nothing bad that ever came out about him. So true.

Yeah. I think we would have known you guys something by now.

It's been plenty of other people that we've talked about that had shitty things going on.

Right, Right. Yeah. Chronic from all I know was a good dude, you know, and like, there was no bad stuff that came out after the fact or anything.

Everlasting the house. There he is. Everlast is like the original white rapper to become a country singer.

Yeah, yeah.

He was the head of the curve. He's like the original jelly roll. Yeah. And they're hyping up eliminators with this rap Song.

They certainly are.

I don't think I ever seen this song on mtv.

Probably not.

And it's not like at this time, you're like, oh, well, it was on YouTube. No, no, not happening. You hear the Sorry randomly here. That's it. They look like they're in Revere, Mass. Right now, like hanging out of the bar.

Right?

That's a cool shot.

Yeah.

Yep.

Oh, there we go.

It's a poster. They should.

That's cool. Yeah. Dude's title. Yep. Awesome.

Souvenir program.

We have the program.

We do.

Digital program that we kind of skim through.

Very well. Professionally done.

Oh, what is this crap?

Musically, it sounds like they're trying to sell softcore porn.

Yeah.

It'S exactly.

RF video. If you want Rob Feinstein's 215. Follow the numbers.

Yeah.

Oh, Surprising Wings world too. You know you are. Sweet love, hot break.

You know what I'm talking about.

2.

It's been a while since I've seen.

Watch that.

Oh, really? Yeah.

Ah.

Doesn't like it. Comes on all the time.

Right.

Well, I know. Well, it's just something from my childhood, I guess.

I've definitely seen the first one way more than the second one.

Well, maybe it's in part one, then. I don't know. It's. They're in Stan Makita's donut shop. That's part two.

Yeah.

I could be wrong, actually. I could be wrong. Whatever. Garth sees a girl and he gets all honed up and it plays Jimi Hendrix. What's the song? What's the name of the song? You know, you are sweet love hot breaker.

Yeah, I forget what the name of that song is.

Doesn't matter. All right, we got Bill Alfonso with a new team here, and he's the guy cutting the promos. And everyday is wearing the cool shirt that we want. It looks badass on him.

It does.

It does, though. He's got the little. Little jacket making it look cool. How did Vincent again, not ever know that this dude was awesome? Like, he always wanted, like a shitty referee type guy, and it was right there.

The good news is Rob Van Dam's.

Coming to Queens, New York. Great.

While I'm there, I'm interested.

Queens, New York sucks, by the way. By the way.

Hey, hey, hey.

This is awful.

To tell you how to do business, but you got a chance get Rob Van Dam a true superstar.

He's not like a full bone plot pothead yet, huh?

No, he definitely is, but Sab's it up.

Had enough.

And if you think Rob Van Damme is kidding about putting himself on the Offspring block for other promoters to work Monday night. Check this out. We're now going to show you a matchup from last night in Walter, Massachusetts.

Walter.

Joey.

Joey.

To an infomercial.

I'm never gonna know how to say it. I'll be up forever. Wal. Hey, Spike. Spike, where you from? Where's Spike from.

Dudleyville?

Is he from Fall River?

No, he's from.

He's from Rhode Island, I believe, because.

He has school here.

That's what I was asking about. We're going to be a smart ass.

You're welcome.

You're welcome. Welcome. That's the other rated thing of Terry Perry Saturn. You're welcome. I'm gonna. I don't. I'm definitely gonna use that more in my life going forward. You're welcome.

Yeah, he is. Spike Dudley was born in Providence.

My kids are born in Providence too. So it just means born in the area.

Right?

I mean, that's where the hospital is.

Hasbro.

Yeah. Yeah. Let's go him up.

Ladies and gentlemen, I stand corrected. Originally from Battle Creek, Michigan.

RVD looks like a Terminator. Oh, oh. He's gotta up some Spike here. Spike sneaking around like a sneaky snake.

So I would never leave the side of Rob Van Dam or Sabu or better yet, both of them.

You got Jim Alano in the ring, right?

Yes.

Yes.

Yay.

Tell by the. I'm starting to figure it out.

I think we only. We only starting to figure it out after three years later. Five years.

Yeah.

Yeah. Five years. It's all right. It's all right. This crowd sucks. All right, so I like Fonzie Blower. The whistle is pretty annoying.

Yeah.

Like certain matches, fine. But a match like this. Get the out of here.

It does feel like it gets the crowd worked up though, because they feel like they got to be louder than the whistle.

I guess maybe. Yeah, it's probably true. But I. I feel like this crowd is just. Yeah, they're not loud on purpose. They're just. They suck. No, this not good. He's just blowing his whistle. Blowing his whistle. It reminds me of like when coach was blowing a whistle for Mr. Perfect.

Right.

Back in 91. After Bobby Heenan. Well, before Bobby Heenan was his manager. Right. Oh, there. Right after.

No, it was after.

Yeah, right after Bobby Hina was.

That was the end. End of the. The perfect run.

Right? Yeah. Yeah. And the coach came in, he's just blowing the whistle the whole time. So annoying. I was. I mean, that match at SummerSlam 91 Raha. And Perfect was really awesome. But he almost ruined it by blowing his whistle.

Yeah.

Are they saying we want Taz?

Well, they should be. Let's see. Geez. Double unhook slam. Can we just pin him? Like, what's going on here? All right, Van Dama. Big splash Boom. Doesn't go for a cover. Let's get the COVID and end this, please. Yeah, Robot.

We're done with this.

Yeah, we done.

Yeah, no kidding.

Spray paint outfit from the mall. That's what I always hate about RVD's awesome costumes. But his gear. It's just raping airbrush whatever. Yeah, look at this. Like, it's just airbrush crap. Like it's a robot. I guess it's unique. He always had something different for the most part.

Oh, absolutely. Yeah. It seemed like he never wore the same one twice.

Right there. That's kind of cool. But what the. He just laying to the finish. And now Spike's getting a return on him with a bulldog. And what are they doing here? Ponzi, what does that whistle mean? Does it mean anything?

Because so relentless.

Like, if I was your guy and you were whistling, I'd go over and kick you in the face. Be done with you. Your whistle is distracting me.

Very.

Oh, he. He's working me. So sorry. I'm. I'm being worked. Full. Full disclosure. I'm worked. I'm pissed. I'm pissed at Bill Fonza. Well, what a random chair shot. He might as well be dead after that chair shot. I don't realize this match was gonna be the whole episode.

Yeah, this is kind of crazy.

Holy moly. Like legit. There's not much time left.

Spike's getting a spotlight these past two episodes.

That's true. Deserves it. He's a great worker.

I wonder if it's they're building with something or if they just, you know, trust them.

Oh, now. Now they.

Now the match ends.

Yeah, the match ends now with that puss cover. Why go that long if you're gonna end it that way?

And we get Pantera.

There it is.

It's about to go surf a chair. He did it into his. His gut as opposed to his head.

We still have more matches coming up too.

Yeah, we.

That. I say he's gonna come in and something up. I still don't understand how these guys, like, want this. Oh, that was crazy.

That was dope.

Hey, he actually landed it properly.

Yeah, this is just makes every. The whistle is helping here. It's. Everything just needs more chaotic.

Yeah, it adds to the Chaos, Right.

It's. It's driving me nuts. Like, I get it. Like, in my mind, I'm like, shut the up. And everybody's gonna be thinking that.

Right?

Shut this head up. Oh, Joe Gardner. All right, let's listen to this. Sudden muffin. Sounds like me when I was making jokes in ninth grade.

You were scheduled to see some highlights of Terry Funk.

However Nancy Seymour sees that Fire blanket.

Didn't you say that?

Yeah, that's why I brought it up. The. Is this song. It's not like Wycliffe John. Right. Because they did a mix of this.

This ain't Wyclef John.

No, no, but they did. Do I. I don't know if it was the Fugees, but it was either Wyclef or one of them that was in the Fugees. That. Then I shot the sheriff. This isn't the song, though. I want that Bueller.

Which I understand is only $5 more than Terry Funk.

Has to pay Beulah every time. What a funker, huh? I want that. I don't want the shirt. I just want that.

Yeah.

I want the Be love. Oh. Oh. Tommy being tough guy, huh?

Let's see. Yep.

What's it doing? Super Snook, I think.

Or like the. The Click thing, you know?

Well, yeah.

Yeah, The Wolf pack.

Is he supposed to be part of the Click?

Maybe. I don't. I. I don't. I think he was.

Is he part of the clay?

No, no. But I'm thinking he's maybe using it like he's making fun of him for it.

Yeah, like mocking him.

Yeah. Or like it's the Outsiders, you know, National Hall. He could be taking a shot at them, too.

Yeah, that makes sense because he was friends with Candido and.

Right.

He didn't really give a. About anybody. So. Good.

The.

I don't want to hear you right now. Expect something.

Do this. I don't like you, Louie. You know why? Cuz you picked your spot. You waited till I was sidetracked and you got in my face. Well, Lou, I'm picking my spot, and I'm going to get in your face and teach you a valuable lesson.

Not about wrestling.

No.

Running. Run the show on you, man. In general, Luis Macaulay is better than Tommy Dreamer. I don't give a. About Tommy Dreamers. Ecw. Louis Pigoli is still better than Tommy Dreamer.

Oh, definitely.

I'm gonna. About his promos and whatever. I guess Tommy German is more memorable.

These posts are wild, like the way the arena set up.

Yeah, that's what I was talking about. Oh, like, doesn't it throw you off? Like you think the post is there, then there's another.

Like the corner wasn't the old original Garden like that. Yeah. You feel like there's gonna be. I feel like I was. I'm expecting more seats and then there isn't.

Chris, I'm telling you right now, you better be on top of your game. I don't want to be in the ring with you. You better be be on top of your game. Cause if you ain't, I'mma be on you like stink. Now, Sabu, you better prepare yourself. I could care less about Van Damme. I'm tired of choking him out. Sabu, imma open you up worse than I did at Bailey Legal. I'm going to open you up, bust you up, stretch you, blow you up again and hurt you. You. And then the next night, Trenton, you get your shot again at me. Sabu, King of the hill. Battle Royal. I love these things. See? Cause I could give a less who wins and who loses. All I care about is you. You and your miserable, cocky, conceited self. Imma eat you up at will, brother. Asbury park in Trenton. Sabu, can you stop the path of rage?

Taz is awesome.

Yeah, he's clicking.

How do we deny Taz? Like he's the best man. The only person that's missing at this point. It should be. I don't know why Shane Douglas needs to be. They care.

Yeah, he's not on this episode.

The Doors. I'm Jim Horser. People are strange when you're a stranger.

Yeah, no.

Might as well say that.

Wasn'T he.

Spoiled people ugly in a bathroom in a arena.

Yeah, this looks like a subway or some.

What the was that bowling alley?

The is.

No, it's got an escalator in it.

Yeah. Oh. When. Why? Why did I ever think this guy was cool?

I picked it every time.

This guy sucks.

He's just a whiny.

Like you might.

Be the worst guy. They have.

Little meaning is better than him. Oh, don't with Stevie.

Man.

Tommy, drink me out. And my b. Stevie and my bang. Take me out, Stevie. Take me out.

He's a apparently end of my life.

Stevie. Take me out, Stevie. End my misery. End my misery, Steven.

Stevie's like I will as soon as my pain ends.

Yeah. Let me just punch in the head in a second. All right.

Huh?

I don't get them. I just don't get them.

Yeah.

I thought. I thought I got him for a long time. The more I Watch them.

It's like, oh, I never really knew his background. I just kind of always knew he was a grunge guy. That's like the most I knew.

Yeah.

You know what I'm saying?

Right, right. That's what I thought the gimmick was like when I was a kid. Oh, he's grunting, but yeah, we've learned.

Yeah, yeah.

It's just. I'm just. Those are all probably not good terms to use, but yeah, in general, just. Yeah, I'm a crybaby, a whiner, and that's what makes him a heel. So I get that. Like, we all get that. That's what they were going for, I guess. But how. How is that cool? Like, it's so weird to think, like, we were all, Here we go. Teens at this point. Yeah, I thought it was cool. Like, was it cool?

Because now we have some real cool showing up.

Oh, you watch jv? You're still watching. We're not watching. Oh, that's next.

Oh.

We had to stop. Who. Who was it, though? Who's the cool.

Who do you think?

I don't know. The gangsters or something.

Yep, that's exactly who it is.

Was it?

Yeah.

Yeah. Get some real.

I was like, what a segue from boring ass Raven to this. Music's pumping.

The. The gangsters haven't been around in a.

While, so it's gonna start off on the next episode.

Damn it, I want to watch it now.

Yeah.

Yeah. Like what I was saying, it's like, yeah, you. Well, you threw me off because now you got me all enticed by Mustafa and New Jack.

My bad.

No, I don't give a. About these guys. Yeah. But anyway, these guys put a damper on our mood in general. Like, ah, yeah, they're good, but no, Raven always poo poo. The party here thought. Thought he was good. You know, when we're teens, like, oh, yeah, this is great. No, not really. I don't. That was my point I was making before. Like, why did we ever think this was good? It's just because we're like, so teens and angst and ah, we like Nirvana or something. I don't know.

Yeah, yeah.

It's supposed to that some like that.

His gimmick was culturally relevant at the time.

Right. We just. We didn't know the substance of it. Right, right. Like, all right, we. We get. Oh, that. I get that. But then the character means nothing.

Yeah. You take them at very much at face value. You know, he wears. He wears T shirts of bands. I Like he wears jeans and a flannel. Like I do. You don't really go into the, the deep, you know, deep dive into the backstory and everything and, and the substance of the promos. Because you don't necessarily even understand substance of a promo when you're like 12.

Right. You're not listening to what he's saying at all.

Right? No, you're hearing words, but it's. You're not getting the full picture because you don't have that experience, knowledge, whatever.

Right? Yeah. And that's what it comes down to. Yeah. Yeah. So now, you know, over the weeks that we've covered Raven and JV and I especially, you know, Rick, at some point, you too. We're on, we've on Raven.

Oh, yeah.

And I think it's because of that. But there's also the side that like, I guess they are doing the right thing. Like he's supposed to be getting heat because of all that.

Exactly. Yeah. I mean, granted, we're looking at it from 27 years ahead.

Right. Like, we're re watching this being like upset, like, ah, we were tricked as kids. That's fine. You know, that's part of why we do this. Like, ah, Raven wasn't what we thought, but he is getting good heat because that's what they were supposed to be doing. But I hate him still because his heat sucks. And I'm annoyed by it, you know, because of like the time period that we're living in, you know? So that's, that's a totally another thing. Like, another thing when you're watching wrestling is when you watch wrestling, it's meant for a certain time period. Then we re watch it. That changes the whole perspective.

Right?

Yeah. We live through it, we get it. We know what that time period was. But we originally watched it at a certain point and thought something. And we're now re watching it and thinking, oh, well, that goes against what I thought originally. But then also now we're also thinking, well, that goes against like modern views of how a person should behave. Like, like a Raven's behavior. Like.

Right, right.

That was something that was like the way he is like, like today that's such a thing that's on the radar. Social, emotional feelings and whatnot.

Right.

And that's what that was. And they were portraying that, or at least like Scott Levy was. That's what he wanted his character to be. He had like, I'm feeling, I gotta put this out there because that's how I feel and I want to express this and nobody Knew about it or not many people even thought to care about it. At least that's what I'm thinking in retrospect, like, I don't know that's what he's trying to do. But I bet he was trying to do that because he was so in touch with his feelings.

Right.

He knew that. I got. I gotta put this out here. And it took, like, 20 something years for people to care about social, emotional feeling.

No, I 100 agree.

So. So he's, like, ahead of the curve with that. And we should. We should. On the character. It's fine, because we think. Think of as a wrestling character, but he's dry. Trying to do something else.

Yeah. He's trying to make it real. Damn it.

Right? Hey, we all know that Scott Levy has this bright iq too, so it makes sense that he's ahead of the curve. What's up? But, yeah, it's fun to go through all of it. It's fun.

Yeah. I like reliving this and seeing it, you know, something that I watched.

Yeah. It's different.

Yeah. Yeah. Like, I. I will say I have gained a. A new respect and appreciation for Shane Douglas. Before, I was always just like, oh, he's all right. Right? He's all right. But, like, it's like, no, he was. He did a lot. And he. Not just in the ring, but his promos. Oh, my. You know, are amazing and all that. And I knew appreciation for that that I didn't have when I was, you know, 12.

Yeah. Yeah. He. He's become one of my favorite wrestlers just doing this.

Mm.

He's awesome.

Like.

Yeah.

There's so much in ECW that needs to be explored. People need to listen. People need to watch.

Right. Like, yeah. Like, another example of Stevie. He was just a putz. I mean, for what, three years, basically. He was just kind of the. The comic relief. He was the. The lovable idiot that was a pest. And now he's a main event star and. Right.

He's jv. JV called it. Hey, this guy is, like, a top guy. Yep.

Yeah. And you watch his matches, and it's like, he's not. He's not. Oh, my God, the best wrestler in the world, but he's a lot better than you. You're a member.

Right, but who is the best wrestler?

Like, right.

I mean, like, right. He's better than so many people that are considered good wrestlers too.

Right?

Yeah, it's just. You don't get the push. You're not.

Right.

Mainstream, like. But this dude could compete with anybody.

Oh, for sure.

And he did it as a joke character basically all the time.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, like the character that he's playing now originally just started off as a parody of Kevin Nash.

Yeah.

Now it's. He's the main. He's a main eventer and people kind of take him serious. You know, one of those things, man, you don't. You don't think about until you. You watch this back, you know.

All right, so you guys want to wrap things up here? Yeah.

Yeah.

All right, we're back now for the extreme ECW live cast wrap up. And we'll be back in two weeks for the next episode. And we'll be covering ECW hardcore TV episodes 211 and 212 from May 6th and May 11th of 1997. And also please check out JV and I on the Bottom Line wrestling cast. And we are covering Stunning Steve. And we just covered our latest episode covering the chicken head, which was early January of 1994. And our latest episode is going to be the Chicken Soup covering later January 1994. So, yeah, pretty exciting. We got chicken head and Chicken Soup, January 1994. Hey, it's fun. We're getting to stomach Steve Austin in 1994. And believe me, I'm excited for Hacksaw Jim Duggan coming into the challenge. Steve Austin soon, later in the year. But yeah, let's get things going here. Let's wrap things up. Please give us a follow on all social media. Follow me Mike Pru at NPRU83. Follow JV at John Van Damage and follow Rick BB at Leo Y85. Also follow that hybrid underscore cast at Hybrid Unscore cast. And then also check us out at Extreme Cast on Twitter or X. Thank you guys for listening. It's been a fun episode and we'll see you guys soon. Thank you. As always. Song.

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