Definitely CW.

You just being in this miserable piece of soma.

We're not a wrestling organization anymore.

We're the world's damn biggest puppet show.

I don't need a weapon.

My hands are my weapons.

Weapons.

Quote to Raven evermore. I'm pregnant.

Vira of the ECW.

I have something.

To say to you.

Welcome to the extreme ECW live cast. This week we are covering ECW hardcore tv episodes 179 and 180 from September 24 in October 1 of 1996. I'm Mike Prue, and we're back at it again with JV and Rick BB. How you guys doing?

Pretty good, man. How you?

I'm great, man. Hanging in there. JV, what's up with you?

I'm going. I'm living, I'm breathing.

Hanging in there, hanging in there.

Hanging in there. Getting ready for Celtics basketball. Look forward to right now.

Dude, I fucking watched a great Celtics game the other day. They had like, full rotation going on with their status. It was great.

And yesterday against the Hornets, right.

Not yesterday was like Tuesday, whatever it was.

Yeah, I saw that. Would they play Tuesday?

I forget. Yeah, but they fucking, like, everybody scored like 20 something points this.

They're fucking loaded.

It was also like, oh, man, they.

Played the next on Tuesday.

That was the Knicks. Yeah. Quinton Grimes had a good game for the Knicks, I believe.

Yeah.

22 New York.

Yeah, yeah, I remember.

Oh, yeah. So that. That was great. But yeah. So we're back at it here on the extreme, you see. I'll be live cast and you can give us a follow on Twitter at extreme cast. Follow me. Mike Pruitt, NPRU eight three. I'll JV at John Van Dammes and follow Rick BB at Leo White 85. Also give us a check out on the bottom line wrestling cast. You can follow on Twitter x. Twitter, whatever. At bottom line cast. And what we do there is cover the entire career of stone cold Steve Austin. We are right now in the midst of stunning Steve Austin, wrapping up his first reign as tv champion. He's about to head into the Hollywood blondes days. So that's where we're at. So it's September, October of 1992. So yeah, check that out. And check out all the episodes covering the whole career of Stone cold Steve Austin at bottom line cast and wherever you get your podcast from.

So, Rick, yes.

We got, we got some news to show. What do you, what do you got? Special announcements?

Yeah. Breaking news, I guess you could.

Is that the fucking breaking news thing?

Yeah, something like that.

Something like that, right?

I don't know. There's like those Tim, uh, timpani drums or whatever. Usually, like, uh. Like the beginning of the world class song.

Yeah, yeah. But, um, before you jump in, though, before you. Before you. I set you up, but now I'm cutting you off.

But what a dickhead. Dick move.

Hey, it's Mike Pearl. I'm a fucking dickhead, apparently. But, uh, what I wanted to say is I'm always like, oh, hey, is Rick, BB and Rick, you're always so fucking even kia, like, hey, hi. I'm, like, trying to hype up the show, and it's like, rick, baby. Hey. I just like the juxtaposition.

It works.

Go ahead, Rick. What do you got?

As of the day, we were recording this, October 20. As of this morning, the first episode of my new podcast, the hybrid wrestling cast, has been released. So by the time you guys are listening to this, I may even have a second episode up, hopefully, because I'm trying to crank them out bi weekly. So may have to rush it. Not rush rush, but, like, go through them. Because my thought was Pink Race, the company that I'm currently covering on the hybrid wrestling cast, they did four shows in 1993, one in September, 1 in October, 1 in November, and one in December. So I'm thinking it'd be kind of cool to be able to line up the November show with around the same time that it comes out. Would be around the same time, so it'd be the 30th anniversary and then the same thing with December. But that means I have to get through episode two first, because episode, episode two, the show was October 14 of 1993. So I'm already past the 30 years anniversary. But other than that, I mean, it's out. I'm very happy about it because this has been something I've told Pru and JV in private, is just that this was kind of my original idea, and I've been kicking it around for at least two or three years, trying to figure out a good time to get involved with it and to, you know, have time to do it and. And also to be able to get the, you know, motivation to do it. Because I will say this, I like working with you guys because I have somebody to kind of bounce ideas off of, and we can, you know, chat. Talking to yourself for half an hour or 45 minutes is extremely difficult to do when you're not used to doing it. So it was a. Probably a very awkward sounding episode, but it's all right because it'll get better.

Well, yeah, we always get better.

Yeah.

But my first impression was, dude, you're already fucking nailing it because you've been doing the QCC's.

That is true.

And what that seemed like was an extended QCC, but based on different content.

Yeah.

And I thought, wow, that's fucking Rick. Like, if anybody that's listening to our show goes to listen to you, it's seamless. So that audience is gonna be like, boom, we got it.

Yeah.

Yeah. And maybe people just joining. Yeah. Maybe it's different to have one host, but if they're clicking on the episode, they want to hear about pancras.

Yeah, that is true.

So.

And I'm more than happy.

You did a great job with that.

Thank you.

And I'm happy that we were able to help you and get this rolling for you.

Oh, for sure.

And looking forward to more. I'm looking forward to different promotions.

Yeah.

And what you were saying was, like, with the timing of dropping episodes for certain anniversaries, I mean, maybe there's, like, UFC shows that drop in the in between things. What happened in 96? You're 93, right? Yeah. 93, yeah. So this early UFC 93, right there.

Is the first UFC. The very first UFC, just called Ultimate Fighting Championship, was November of 93. So I can happen to find a copy of that somewhere, because I don't think I do. I might review that.

Reach out to a boy across the pond.

I. Yeah, if he has it. Yeah. You know, if not, I've got. I've got kind of a temporary plan in my head, I guess, on kind of how I was going to work things out, because if. If you listen to the first episode, I kind of talk about how. Well, I definitely want to get into some of the other groups, like UWF, and then the splinter groups come from that, and then eventually I want to get to pride and UFC and all that. So I have plenty of ideas. It's just a case of how do I do it so that it doesn't get to be old hat. You know, I don't get stuck on one. One company, but also, I'm not jumping around, so it's hard to keep track of, oh, what happened last time on, you know, in rank race or whatever, but that'll. That'll come with time, and, you know, I'm looking forward to it just. Just as much as I'm looking forward to what we're getting into with ECW right now with all the good segue that's coming up.

Yeah. Yeah. So good shit there. Oh, yeah, yeah. So please check out in support and give a five star. Put five stars. You're an apple, give five stars. Fucking write something up, Rick. BB is our man. He's the head of research for a past couple years. Been. Been on the show for almost a year now. Help them out. Support a show. Take a listen and write something up.

And if you have an idea or you have a, you know, like, promotion or match suggestion, whatever, yeah, hey, I'm open to that. You know, obviously, I'd like to, in a way, keep it more like the MMA stuff, but if you've got some. Cause I know I have some one off things that I might do, like, you know, a bonus episode or something where I'm covering, like, a one off thing. If you got something like that in mind, I'm more than happy to research it, you know, look into it, because I'm a wrestling fan, plain and simple. You know, I'll watch almost anything except for impact.

I don't love impact. I love the comment.

And I'm going to put out there, Rick. I want to be on an episode at some point. I want to watch along with some kind of shit that I haven't seen.

Yeah, okay. Absolutely. And absolutely.

Yeah, I want to see, like, is Dan sever versus Ken Shamrock ever? That happened, right?

Yeah, that happens. And one of the ones. Yeah, one of those matches, I believe, is considered one of the worst early UFC matches because they basically do nothing but circle each other for. I want to see that 35 minutes. All right, so, yeah, we'll talk and I'll figure something out. We can watch some. I mean, because I could. I got ideas. We'll just leave it at that.

Funny ideas. Plenty good episodes coming up on Rick Baby's new podcast, hybrid wrestling cast.

Yep. Give me a follow at hybrid, underscore cast on X, Twitter, whatever you want to call it.

All right, well, that said, let's move on now to our first episode of ECW hardcore tv. It's episode 179 from September 24, 1996. It aired on September 26 of 1996, and the matches come from when worlds Collide. It's part two of three shows of hardcore tv that covered this show. When worlds Collide. We got a couple of matches coming up here. We got the Sandman versus Devin Storm, and you still be tag team championship match, the gangsters versus the FBI, the full blooded Italians. All right, so we got this on our. On our drive. So you guys all set up with this? Ready to go? Yep.

Yep.

All right, I'll give a countdown as always. Three down to one. I'll say play. When I say play, we all click play. Three, two, one. Play. Oh, Joel. Garner.

The fuck's that ref?

Because I thought that same thing.

That was my first thought.

I didn't see the ref.

He's fucking ant, though.

Well, look at that Hayward chest. Jv, this is Joe Gurna that we were talking about last episode. Yeah. You're like, oh, who the fuck's that guy? But this is the quintessential stud muffin.

Yeah. See the ref right there?

Yeah, I see him now. Yep. Hey, we got the same fucking rams guy in the back.

Yeah.

Jake the fake Roberts.

Yeah, yeah, he's in. He's in that same spot every week or every show, whatever. They're in.

What the fuck's going on over there?

Yeah, no, my microphone stands squeaking because it started to fall, so I had to adjust it, and then, you know, tighten the. Where Ben's.

All right, we gotcha. This is supposed to be like the bill of the. The italian bill of Fonzo, right? Yeah, yeah, Julio. Oh, we got some new clips here.

Yeah, there's some new clips in there. Still one of the best tv kicks I've ever seen, at least up to this point.

Oh, yeah. Stevie taking a fucking table shot there. We all love Stevie. What an old. Whoa. The Doctor death. And bam, bam. That was new. Random Doctor death was, like, barely two episodes, and now he gets on the open credits.

Yeah, I know. It's like in 93 when there was the british bulldog and Jim Neidhart, and they never showed up on any of the episodes. They were using footage from, like, a year earlier.

Yeah.

Hey, it's the sandman. You know what I figured out this past week? The Sandman weighs one and a half kegs.

One. All right, what's the wall? Give me the weight.

All right. Okay. A standard us keg is around 160 pounds, so he is 240.

That's me. I'm 240. I. Yeah, I gained weight in the past few years. All right, have you? Yes, I have.

I didn't.

Let's talk around town.

Oh, really?

Mike proves so important that we got to worry about his weight.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Nobody else weighs that much.

And you're not, you know, married with two kids, and we didn't just go through a pandemic and all that, you know?

Yeah, under. That's being passive aggressive, right? That's what that is. Inside story. Oh, yeah.

It's a little inside baseball.

If you fucking fuck heads, I'll listen in. Yeah, that was meant for you. You believe he does a podcast about wrestling? What a nerd.

Yeah, just let it go, bro.

All right.

Like, don't go running your mouth and star and shit. For the record.

No, I already played that with you earlier. I'm podcasting.

Okay, good. I'm getting serious. And that's not good.

Well.

Those were stiffen.

And he's hitting him right on the top of the head, too.

His fucking outfit is terrible. It's like a four year old.

Yeah, he always has terrible office.

Yeah, horrible.

Yeah, before he was neon.

Yeah, he's actually good worker, though. Oh, yeah, he's very.

Man sucks dead very good hand. Yeah. Big nose, though.

All right, so we got two Alfonso's. Here we go. Spanish one and the other one just getting fucked up.

Airbrushed design from Harbor hall.

Yeah.

Bill Alfonso, the actual Bill Alfonso is actually hispanic, believe it or not. He's of. He's of cuban descent.

Wow.

Yeah. They just happened to give him an. Well, yes, I didn't. They didn't give him a name because he was Bill Alfonso and in Florida and everything. But he just happens to sound more, you know, italian. His name ends with a vowel like ninja.

He just seems like a fucking typical philadelphian to me. So.

Yeah.

It'S like saying, I'm fucking from France. My last name, Sprue. Who cares? Is not from fucking Cuba.

Oh, no, he's not.

Yeah, there's no fucking way.

No, no, he's. I want to say he actually is from Florida, but.

He lives in a Florida right now.

Yeah, for sure. Many years. Yeah. He's retired or semi retired. I mean, he does the, like, conventions and shit.

Retired. That. That's one thing that pisses me off. Retired. Like, you're not retired unless you actually have a full fucking career. You have to say you're retired because you stop working. Yeah, that pissed me off. Like. And I have a personal reason why I. That pisses me off, but that pisses me off.

That always pisses me off, too.

Oh, I'm retired. You're not fucking retired. You just stop working because you have fucking. You. You got sick or you're fucking lazy. You don't want to work anymore. So, yeah.

Over time from a career, you didn't really spend enough time in to be, like, you don't have enough credibility to actually.

Right.

Recall, like, retired from that career. It was like a speed bump. And now you don't do it anymore.

Right.

You're past it.

I think. Oh, I'm old now, so I'm retired. No, you fucking do shit your whole life. How you retired. You've retired when you were fucking 30.

Meanwhile, we just saw the Sandman beat all three guys down, beat the fuck out of them. And then he's cane in the shit out of Julio whatever his name is.

Being down on one Julio fucking Valdez. Alfonso.

Caesar Chavez. Whatever.

All right, Sam, I fucked it up. Did we get confirmation on this? Was this Wu Tang clan singing this song here in the background? It sound like it was.

I believe it was. Yeah.

Some Rizzo and the jizza, the ODB. All right, so, yeah, too late. I was gonna say, rick, do you get a trivia question for us? Like last episode?

Yeah.

All right. September 27, Allentown. And Cliff, I got show results in my notes. I put a bunch of shit in early today. I don't really read through it all. I don't. Rick, did you look at any of these notes I put?

No, I'm looking now.

In Allentown. Of course, if the sandman win the world heavyweight title, this would of course alter the stipulations of ultimate jeopardy.

You know the one. One big thing that does happen during this time is mind games in your house. And I thought you wanted to bring something up about that. Or maybe you wanted to do a QCC of COVID that.

Yeah, I mean, I know, I look, looking at the. The notes, the second episode, they're gonna touch on that. Yeah, with some. Yeah.

So we'll wait then.

Yeah.

Yeah. Fucking ECW is gonna fucking invade WWF back in September of 1996 during a fucking Savio Vega match.

Yeah, that's our boy.

We love Savio Vega, legend from the.

Bottom line wrestling cast.

Oh, yeah, the Vega saga, episode two. That's now again, ag Hall, Allentown, Pennsylvania. September 27, still cage match. I thought Ag hall had three. Not one g, but two g's. Whatever makes sense. Agricultural.

This is an urgent message from ECW to any of our fans that may have attended a.

Don't call, it's. It's a virus.

Urgent message, if you have photographic documentation.

Speaking of that, I got an email today to my school account, said, we got images of you jerking off. You're gonna pay us $1400 in bitcoin now or we're gonna spread this shit out. It's funny, because I've had that same email come to me like three times in the past, like four years. It's like, ah, here they go again.

Yeah.

We look, you know, we know that you love your porn. It's like, okay, maybe I do, but you weren't fucking watching me jerk off.

No, we hacked your webcam, right?

We have access to that. Oh, the email is fucking hilarious. People fall for that shit though, man. Ridiculous. People are making a living by sending shit like that. If you work that hard at actually having a job, you could fucking make a living. I guess maybe they make better money. Maybe they make better money fucking doing that. I mean, depends on the volume of how many you send out, but there's probably fucking enough suckers.

Yeah.

Oh, no.

People gonna see me joke off. My initial thought was, even if this true, go ahead, fucking send it. What? It's not my. I didn't fucking send it. No, it's not like I sent myself jerking off. If you got me like, go ahead, do it. Do you want. Oh, okay. Speaking of that. Okay. She is simply. Oh, no bra, no top on.

Yeah, there's no top on.

Turn around. Turn around.

Shane's wife is like, what the fuck? What the fuck?

You are gonna pay.

You're gonna get your ass kicked.

Yeah. Talking shit with a fucking cranium brace.

On the halo brace.

This is our favorite shirt. We. We all need to wear these shirts. We gotta get this shirt. And when we finally go to Scotty's pub together, we're all wearing a Savoy suicidal. But we gotta do that. We gotta plan that.

Oh, yeah.

Unique sports entertainer, hack Myers back. Myers. Haven't seen him in a while.

Oh, yeah.

Let me just jump and land to a table. Nobody there is Sadeena. $20 post paid. Okay, let me. Let me just write on a piece of paper. $20. Here you go. Okay. When I get the shirt, man.

Right. Remember when he used to be able to do that? Cash on delivery, right.

I'll venmo you three days later. Hey, where's that venmo?

At least that's personal. Hey, man. The fuck?

We here at extreme championship wrestling want to publicly acknowledge the actions of the Sandman and Tommy Dreamer in Philadelphia Sunday night, and even those of Taz Monday night in Hershey Park, Pennsylvania. Any fans that may have footage, whether it be from a camera or I or hopefully from a camcorder, ECW Fancam wants to purchase your documentation of our athletes. Please call our offices tomorrow morning.

That sounds lame, man. Do you have footage? Because we didn't have any cameraman.

Right.

Is that Sao Paloma?

Yeah.

Yeah, the crowd's loving it. Damien Stone. James Stone. Whatever. He's going by little Guido.

Little Guido.

Yeah.

Little.

It's spelt little. Right, Lil?

No, it actually gets little. Yes, little.

It was before little was a thing.

Yeah, yeah, before little Kim.

Little Kim, yeah.

She or she had a big titty out.

Yeah, little tits at first.

It's a nice titty, though.

It was the nice deal.

I just like the dirty talk. That was the best part. Listen to that little Kim album was like, listen to dirty talk. That was it. Thank you.

Kids today don't understand how amazing it was for that kind of shit to be on your cd player or to find. Or to find, you know, find an adult magazine in the woods or whatever.

Yeah. Or. Yeah, in the woods.

Yeah, yeah.

Which I've. I've done before. Yeah, it's the rifle. Full rifle through, uh, empty bag. Not empty, but bags behind the fucking post office.

Yeah. Like dumpster diving.

Yeah, it was like dumpster diving. It was behind my grandparents house, there was a post office. And I, me, my buddy that lived next door, he would go down there and look through, and from time to time, we find, like, those. They weren't fucking magazines, but it was like, call this number, and it would be a girl with fucking, like, half a tittie showing, right, like that. Like, oh, we hit the jackpot. Fucking grimy. Back in 19, 92, 93.

Mm hmm.

I saw the gangster. Is that gangsters are here, and they're fucking things up here.

Yeah.

Fucking sense out below my out. But he's rolling back in. He wants more. He just wants camera time. This team's heart.

The music is still playing.

Yes, that's right, Jamie, right. Music playing. Journey with me into the mind of a maniac. Oh, what an old reference. That's such an old reference. Nobody watching this would know what fucking Joey Styles does talking about, unless they're, like, 35 years old at the time. Is that ball doing cot wheels?

Yeah.

That was, like, 1980, 215 years before this.

Yeah.

Right. When he was happy go lucky. Italian java.

Yeah. And like, a hundred pounds later, right?

Say boom. Nice power slam. And here comes Lujak.

One eight, seven.

Probably fucking nailed Belmont in the face.

Mm hmm.

All right, so that was, we have here. Paloma takes the pin, even though we don't even know he was in the FBI.

Yeah.

So little Guido and JT Smith. Uh, hey, they got some coverage there. You know, they didn't have to worry about getting pitfall. They didn't lose any heat. Yeah. All right, so we got a video package here of natural born killers. It's just random shit. I mean, natural bone kills is just bitches with titties.

Yeah.

And Bam Gordy running the ropes journey with me.

It's the extended remix.

Yeah. Why we seen Brian Lee versus bam bam.

So much of one killers.

Oh, well, all you mean. Yeah, the show protestone, but they're not even, like, hyping that. It's the show other than the first.

Part of it, right?

Yeah, this David saying, like, all right, by this. There it is. Or it's not being taken for natural born kills.

For me.

They stepped up their game there.

There's Dan Crawford, Phil Lafon, whatever you want to call him. JB.

I'll call him Philip on it. Doesn't deserve to be profit taking, that shitty name. Fellow fond Doug Furnace is the man, though. He looks. Doug Furnace looks like Sabu's brother. Watch when you see. Oh, there's. There's a man right there.

Rvdemen, this karate Gi top.

No, but, Rick, seriously, look. Furnace and Sabu.

Yeah. They both have that. That stringy hair. The goat movies. They have the same skin tone.

Right? Even, like, the facial structure.

Yeah, similar. Yeah, for sure. I don't know what, um, like, heritage Furness is.

Yeah. We don't got ancestry here for them, but.

Yeah. Well, I know Sabu nephew, the sheik. The sheik, I believe, was Lebanese, so.

Yeah. Okay.

I would. I would say Sabu's got some lebanese in him, and he looks similar, obviously, to the sheik, so.

Mm hmm.

But I don't know what. What? Furnaces wrestling promotion. They didn't have 23 in me back then.

Down. All right, so we use this last time, so I'm not gonna bring it up again. Yes, we definitely used it. Oh, that was a. That's great. Tear spot. Ladder spot.

Only one wrestling promotion. That is Philadelphia's hometown wrestling promotion. ECW Philadelphia.

Homemade.

Hometown home team. ECW Philadelphia wrestling promotion.

All right, so Paul's going hard on spreading the word here. Yeah. It's not just Philly. It's around the nation.

And I think you've mentioned on bottom line cast that we recorded recently how Paulie's ditched the black hair. Current day.

Yes. Yeah. Modeled it. Yeah, it's gone gray. He's gone. He's gone full hitchcock.

Wow.

Did you see that, Rick?

No, I haven't. I haven't seen it recently.

Those not less. Yeah, two weeks ago.

Yeah. That is Sabu's brother. Like.

Yes. Right?

Yeah, I back you on this one.

All right. Sometimes it sounds like I'm just talking shit, but I'm fucking talking shit.

No, they look talking similar enough.

If he put on the fucking squishy pants. Good tag team right there.

Yeah, he's a. He's a thicker sabo.

Yep. He's the wrestling, and he's the high flyer. Even right now, they match. They should be on the same team.

Yeah, they. They get the same, basically, the same color gear on.

The fuck's Rob Van Damme's tights. Is that like robocop shit? What?

Like, yeah, it looks. It looks like it's supposed to be, like, sub zero, maybe.

This is not. Yeah, 96. Yeah, sub zero would be around.

Yeah. Mortal Kombat. Three win, three years loses the mask.

And I want to see the front of the front of that gear. I always thought it was crazy, cuz, like, Robin name is wearing this shit, obviously here. And that makes sense. He's wearing a spray paint shit.

Mm hmm.

But I always thought it was crazy when he was finally in WWE as, like, a legit guy. He's still wearing the same fucking shit.

Yeah.

Like, they just let him keep doing a spray paint. Fucking heights.

Yeah. The airbrushed right here. Brush the airbrush.

Right? Yeah, there's like, yeah, fine. And I thought there would have been, like, some improvement.

Yes, he does.

I mean, if it happened today, please to tag him.

If Robin Dam was in WWE today coming in, it would definitely change his fucking gear.

Oh, for sure.

I guess they had a lot of respect for him, and I'm just fucking keep rolling with the airbrush.

Yeah. Well, you gotta figure when. When he came in, he was, you know, a hot commodity type of deal. And Pauly was in the company at that point in WWE, so he probably had a hand in getting Rob, you know, either convincing Rob to come to WWE or convincing WWE to take a chance on. On RVD, you know? Yeah, but, yeah, I get what you're saying. It is kind of weird that now he's in this, you know, biggest promotion, and he's still wearing stuff that, you know, you could have had made at the mall for, you know, $30.

It probably made all the tailors backstage jobs much easier.

Oh, yeah.

Can you make this? Yeah, that's easy.

I hate when these lulls happen.

Yeah.

You don't know what's going on.

Right. And they don't have multiple cameras, so you can't see different things going on.

Right.

They do have two cameras. All right. It's not just a hard game.

Yeah, they got the guy.

Yeah. Right here. Right. How come they didn't switch to that fucking 30 seconds ago?

Bad production work.

It's still.

It's always fun to see no cell phones in the crowd.

Love it.

Yeah. Yeah. Like, everybody's paying attention.

Yeah.

Nobody's on their phone because there is no phone, obviously. But, yeah, I.

Well, Paulie has a phone.

Yeah.

A fake phone.

It's a cordless phone. But everybody's like, oh, it's a cordless fun. I swear. At least for me, it was always like, oh, that's a cell phone. It's like, no cordless phone like your grandma could have had, you know, that's cold fun.

It belongs in a cradle.

Mm hmm.

And the fucking answer machine is next to it.

You can only be, like, 30ft away from it, or else you won't. The call cuts out.

And if it's like the one I had those fucking chew mocks on top of the antenna, because I fucking do that damn thing. Sorry to admit that. It's the truth. Yeah, nice fucking kick to the back of the head. That was a good kick from Rob Van Damme. And then we see Robin Dama. I get to finally see the front of his. His gear, and it's just like, v shaped down to his dick. Is that. Is that what we're doing here? Like, he's always trying to emphasize his crotch, his crops will area? Or is it just me emphasizing his crotch? I don't know. I don't know. What I said will relate to somebody. I'm just an advocate. I'm just an advocate. I'm just saying things and somebody will connect to it. Some my own thoughts. So this fucking Lafon here.

Mm hmm.

It looks like a fake Dean Malenko. Wanna be the maliko? Me?

He kind of. To me, he kind of looks. He kind of looks. He kind of looks like Dean's brother Joe. You guys ever seen Joe Malenko?

Yeah. Joe Maliko.

Yeah, he kind of looks like Joe Malenko. Like, same kind of build and. Yeah.

Yes. Maybe. That's what I'm thinking.

Yeah. But I mean, I. Same idea. I mean, Joe and Dean both Sim. You know, similar because they're brothers.

Oh. Maybe that's why they were kind of popular at this time, is because Dean Malenko was popular. Those like, oh, let's try to make the font or whatever the fuck his real name is again.

That is his real name, actually.

Oh, it is his real name.

Yeah. Yeah. Phil Lafonte is his real name.

Okay.

Dan Crawford is a shoe. His work name. Yeah. His k fave name, whatever you want to call it.

But I. I know in 96, I love D Malenko. So maybe them coming in is like, oh, we need other guys like Dean. Like, oh, shooters.

Yeah.

And that's what they were going for here.

Yeah. I mean, they got a. They got little Guido who's a shooter, so why not get.

Yeah, but they gave him a real character.

No, true, true, true.

Like his. With d Milenko. When he came in WW 95, there's no character that. It was just. He was a good wrestler.

Yeah, true. His character is him being good at his craft.

Right. And being the ice man.

Right?

Yeah. Yep, yep.

So it seems like they tried maybe here in ECW or Paul, you thinking, oh, let me bring in other good wrestlers. And maybe they get the same vibe being good wrestlers. And I think here in the ECW audience it did work because this audience does appreciate good wrestling. But when they go over to WWF, no one give a fuck.

No, no one did give a fuck.

About them being good wrestlers. That. That was a WCW thing at that time.

Yeah, it does. And WWF just, they lean a little bit more heavily into character and stories and the entertainment side.

Right. Nitro was a great place to just have people that could wrestle for a match and be like, oh, that was good wrestling. That was a good match. And then you move on to nwo showing something like.

Yes, they would start nitro with like a cruiserweight match or something. Something that was going to be exciting.

Right. And it was different, though, so it didn't tie into anything going on.

Oh, yeah.

It was own separate thing that, that first hour.

Sometimes the first hour of nitro would be completely different than the second. Like, nothing would match up.

Yeah. Because the first hour was usually an hour before raw.

Right.

So you can, like, didn't give a shit what was really on in that hour.

They were getting ratings no matter what.

Right. People are watching and we're not competing.

So which is where they kind of fucked up.

Yeah, they should have got the show hot from the start.

But again, we're common sense. What right now we do here in WCW?

What the thing is, though, we here now, 30 years later are remembering all the cruiserweights for us to be beginning. So we do have fond memories of those opening matches. Even if it was fucking disco inferno versus Rey mysterio or something.

Prince Ikea ik. Prince Ikea versus super colo.

Prince Ik, for some reason reminded me of, like, maskless wearing mysterio.

Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, I should probably double check that, but I'm pretty sure that's how I remember it's mask off. Remember that isn't.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Look like a little boy took his mask off. That was kind of bullshit. Mask off. No, not in a sense like I care about fucking mexican traditions, but why the fuck take the mask off? Very mysterio. Fucking the coolest fucking character with a mask.

Yeah. I didn't make any sense.

Even with Hoovent to taking his mask off.

Yep.

Cool masks.

That leading into what I was gonna say is one of the things that somebody's pointed out since. And I forget who it was that pointed it out, but they were like, WCW never marketed masks for kids or anything. Like, you know, they met and it. Because w, you know, because WCW, they missed out on a huge revenue stream because, look, Ray mysterio comes into WWE like, what, 2002, 2003, 1st thing that they do, you can be. You can have a Rey mysterio mask. Those things sold like hotcakes. But WCW didn't, didn't put any effort into marketing the cruiserweights, even though it was pretty much a cash grab, you know? Like, they could, they could have got money just for having masks available that, you know, the kids could wear kind of thing.

And we were all talking about it too.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like, wrestling fans. Like, dude, the cruiser, right? Division's dope, right? Like, ah, here's fucking hacksaw Jim Duncan, bro. Like, what?

Yeah.

Yeah. They totally missed the fucking boat there with that.

They fucked up bad, bro.

And then WWE, well, at WWF at the time, tried to do the cruiserweight thing, and it didn't, it wasn't the same.

Yeah, well, they called it.

Right. Yeah.

Well, you. Heavyweight. It's Dick. And Brian Christopher was a fucking champ the fuck out of here.

Cruiserweight's just a better term too.

Yeah.

And like, it's a, I think it's a higher weight class technically than lightweight cruiserweight. Kind of. It's like that area before. Yeah, area between middleweight and heavyweight.

Yeah, light light heavyweight, which is what the WWF did, is the one right below heavyweight. Cruiserweight is like, below it. I think it's below middleweight.

They did call it light heavyweight. I was.

Yeah, just the lightweight.

I was the light.

Okay, yeah, light heavyweight. Yeah, gotcha. Okay, so it's technically heavier, you know, uh, guys, if you want to get technical. I don't know what.

No, no, no, you're right. No, you're right.

You're right.

Yeah, I forgot that.

Hey, you're the host of the hybrid wrestling cast.

I know you know that.

You know, the weight class professional fighting expert now. I don't know shit. I watch mma like once a month.

Crowds doing fucking golf clubs.

Yeah. Golf claps.

And we like this. It's pretty good wrestling. This is probably. This is gonna be early in the evening too, because they won't be standing for this shit later.

Yeah.

Where'S the fucking blood?

Where's the titties?

Yeah, we're talking.

That's what I always say, doesn't matter the situation. Where's the titties?

That was a nice power slam.

Yes. I was dropped off night. Yeah, nice drop.

Yeah, that was a good leg drop, too. Monsoon would be happy. He's hooking the leg.

Yes. He's actually going for a full cover. Got brother versus brother here. Fucking. What's the fucking mad. Mad comics? What?

Spy versus spy.

Spy versus fight. Yeah. This is my versus fire. Look at these guys. These fucking brothers, man.

They're just froze being bros.

Just wrestling.

Just wrestling.

That's not wrestling.

This is. When the fuck are we gonna do that?

That'll be my comeback when I come back full time.

Yeah. Yeah. We never mentioned that.

You haven't talked about that. Jamie, though. Nobody knows what you're saying.

Hey, fave brother.

Hey, babe. Brother fucked.

There was no tag there. That was no tag. Just went into the corner. All right, I'll come in.

They're just, like, rubbed against each other. We all touched. You're in.

Yeah, I'll take over from here. I'm just gonna sit here and wait until you get your shit together and then I'll flop for you. Shoots the half the fuck out of here. Joey shoots the half.

Cobra clutch over clutch into a sleep, into a suplex.

That's, like Taz style move. Yeah, I want tas to come in and show everybody how it is and just fucking slamming everybody. Imagine that Taz comes in fucking. And then do. Does a real feud with Rav and damn bucks Abu. Oh, there's Joel. Oh, we gotta play this song for the break.

Yeah, I like this song.

Remember the song?

Yeah.

Hi.

Who's that? What was the name of this band?

This theme of the song is I hate everything about you. It's. I don't know.

Hey, everything about you.

I'm gonna look it up.

God. It's gonna. When I hear it, it's gonna know it's got a name in it. It's got, like, a legit name in it. Like a real name.

I hate everything about you.

Of course. We got Raven coming up, right? Tommy? Tommy.

Oh, ugly kid Joe.

Ugly kid.

I was kind of clear. Joe.

Oh, my God. Let me see. Buell. Come on.

Yeah, that's right.

If Tommy never banged her, that's probably his greatest regret in his whole life. He probably was in friend zone.

Everything about you.

Something. Yeah, definitely. Play this for the break song or whatever.

Oh, yeah, I'm writing it.

Yeah.

I haven't heard this song so long. Ugly kid Joe. Sounds like a fucking cabbage patch. Not cabbage patch, garbage. Pail kid. Fucking garbage bed.

Yeah, garbage.

Oh, he's got, like, puke all over his face or something.

Mm hmm.

When I was a kid, I had my closet in my bedroom. The whole opposite side of my closet was filled with stickers of garbage fill.

Nice.

I wish I fucking actually had the cards now instead of just killing them off. But, hey.

You don't. You don't think about that when you're a kid.

Yeah, I don't realize. I was, like, seven, eight years old, which is around the age of my kids right now, and I couldn't imagine them having those stickers.

Yeah.

You know what I mean? Like, what the fuck?

What were our parents thinking?

Yeah.

I mean, we probably didn't know, but.

Maybe we're just too protective now. Who knows? If you shield kids from everything, they just become weak. Well, you don't want them to be dickheads either.

Oh, yeah.

All right, so we got a fucking massacre here on the floor. Jeez, Robin. Damn. Coming up. And Austin Sabu back into the.

Throwing his own partner back in.

Now he's gonna throw his sabu's brother back into the ring. There we go. Cameraman can't fucking get off the ring apron, dude. Back up. Wrestle. Trying to do his job. And you're in his way. I'm coming in, Rob.

I don't think that was a.

Whip to the corner. Big boot furnace takes the big boot. Robin Dam goes to the second rope. Doug Furnace tries to cover Robin Damon justice. And fucking hits the. Which is all lame, though. Yeah. He hit the moonsault, but all slow and like. Yeah, it's look like shit, right?

It's very much a. They're selling things, but they've. It's moving at a snail's pace because.

Right. Yeah, they're just not. They're just not good at this point.

Right.

And what I mean is that they're not able to quickly change from spot to spot. So every spot is pretty slow, and it's easy to pick out what's wrong with the spot.

Right. Yeah. And there. There are certain wrestlers that can do that where the spots just flow perfectly, but there's not, like, there's enough time where they're not just going from spot to spot without selling, you know? But this is not one of those times.

No. And even Doug Furnace just did a suplex to robin them rather than fell like belly flop. That doesn't. That there's no damage there. That sucked. And then they made it seem like it was a big spot. Now, this spot that we're currently seeing, that's. That's big.

Yeah. Tiger bomb on a chair.

On a steel chair. Yeah. And now we have outside action here with Sabu going on the ropes, comes out. He misses chair face to his brother. He sets up the chair. He's going for the. Oh, all right, good. I'm glad it wasn't the finish. Furnace breaks it up, but now things are finally getting hot and obviously this is the finish, but. Frankensteiner broken. Yes.

A Frankensteiner Furnace diner. Yeah, right. I mean, Scott Steiner obviously is, you know, a big guy doing that too.

But, yeah, but, yeah, he can. He can do it.

Yeah.

I like that move, actually, from Crawford and Furnace was it. Did he do a test flex? Is that what they're saying?

That's what Joey saying.

That what? That was. All right, so that's why I like it, I guess that's why I liked it. Because it was a tasplex off the second rope and the cut, the hajime. Oh, so this guy's fucking around. He wants to fuck with Taz.

Yeah, well, remember Taz has been calling out, calling out Sabu for most of the year.

Right. But we have Lafont here, coffee. He's doing Taz move on taboo. So I feel like Tash should take umbrance with this. Like, hey, that's my shit. What the fuck you doing?

Yeah, well, Joey's trying to. Joey's trying to sell it. Like, Taz went to Furness and Lafawn or. Yeah, and told them to fuck up Sabo's neck or whatever. And so Joey's trying to make it out. Like Taz taught Lafond how to do a tasplex or whatever.

Wow, really?

I don't. I don't. Well, that's how Joey was making it out. I don't. I don't take that. I take that as that's probably something that Philip on did in all Japan normally. And they, you know, Sabu was like, yeah. You know, caution to the chest.

Oh, shit.

He.

Savage is whipping chairs at Lafonte.

Yeah.

Like, literally just fucking throwing right at his head.

He doesn't give a fuck. Wow, CTE, what's that?

Yeah, 96, right?

Exactly.

That science didn't exist yet.

What's like, I don't know if it was last episode or two episodes ago where they had that piece from, like, the American Journal or whatever, and Tommy's like, yeah, I've had, like, 18 concussions. He's just like, openly saying it nonchalantly, you know?

Yeah, it's probably true. Yeah, I'm willing to say, like, usually I would say autonomic dreams. Bullshit. Well, that's probably true.

Yeah.

Fuck. In 1996, I guess this is how poorly educated I was. I didn't know what a concussion was. Definitely wasn't any awareness of concussions for kids back in the day.

Not at all.

No protocols, no nothing.

No.

Hey, you know that's progress, right?

Yes. Right, right. It's not to say, oh, we shouldn't have that. No, no shit. We should. This is the thing that kills me sometimes when people are complaining about progress. Oh, they didn't have when I was a kid. Well, no shit. We're fucking learning, motherfucker. Like, that's what happens. Time goes by and we learn and we adjust how we live. I don't know, some people, like, get on the high horse about, oh, when I was a kid, it wasn't like this, just ignorant. I think some things can be ridiculous. I get when it comes to health. No. Yeah, you gotta learn. You're learning. Adjust. We're always learning more about health as Robbie Dave just fucking crack at skulls.

And then he contemplated hitting Sabu as well.

Yeah, good, I like that.

Yeah. Yeah, they've been doing that. Shades of grey between two partners, you know, where Van Damme will go to set something up and Sabo will interrupt it just to hit his own move. So.

Thinks that Savu is just fucking up. Just because. My own personal beliefs about seven.

Yeah.

If anything, Rob van dams behind that whole little thing going on.

Yeah. Well, just like then, Van Damme hits the split leg of moonsault. Cebu runs over and dives on top of. Yeah, of a furnace.

It's my fucking cover, asshole. Right.

Back.

So just throw the chair randomly. It had nothing to do with anything. Although referee does make a cover. Except we tried spin furnace only to count there. This is a fucking convoluted match, man. And I like it.

This is all right, but it's his dragon, bro.

It is dragon. It's like the whole fucking show. And I don't mean RVD. No, pop on that, nobody like that one.

I didn't hear what you said.

I know, I got it.

Thanks to. I said it's the whole fucking show. And I don't mean RVD. Oh, whatever. Whenever you have to repeat a joke, it's fucking lame. Sucks. I'm sorry.

Yeah, it's never the same.

Oh, thanks there from dude, I like fucking fake Morinko. He's good. Oh, he. He didn't get the pinfall. It's some shady shit, right?

Time limit draw.

Time limit draw. All right, get Gartner in there and fuck him up. Let him be the bearer of bad news. And it is a kick. But look at. Look at Lafonte's like, yeah, man, I'm up a draw. One more minute. What the fuck you think happened in one more minute?

I thought they were saying one and.

Even five more minutes. David just said this was dragon it. Only five more minutes. Yeah.

This is way too long. Like, what's the payoff, right?

What is this? What's the stakes here in this match?

There aren't any, right? Yeah, RVD and Sabu are feuding, but they're not.

But they are in the. We also have Taz in the mix, right?

Furnace and Lafon. Or the quote unquote, one of the best. One of the best tag teams in all Japan.

Yeah.

Yeah.

What the fuck's that even mean to most of these people?

Yeah.

911, they just want. I want to come fuck everybody.

No, I think that same.

Five more minutes or let them go or something.

Well, I'm on board with JV, though. I want that fucking 911 music. It's fucking stop. Coke slammin everybody.

Yep.

This crowds pissed. Yeah, they're fucking pissed off. But now they got Sabu and RVD in the ring. So this is where the real shit happens. Get the fucking all Japan wrestlers out of here. Oh, push. No. All right, Rick, what are they saying? It was an interpretation. What's that?

Booze going. Why you keep selling my shit, man? In RV D is going, I just need weed, bro. Ize, shake my hand.

Yeah. Hey, we'll meet after, right?

Yeah. Sabo's. Sabu's going, go ask Todd. He's got weed.

He's got weed. His little fake office.

Yeah, him and font, him and Fonzie are out back smoking behind the building, actually. And Sandman probably.

Oh, here we go.

There we go.

He's got a steakhouse. Let's listen to test. Sorry.

Of ECW, the home of the one man Sabo fears.

I love that.

Yep.

Sabu, fierce Taz. Awesome. All right, so that concludes the first episode of ECW hardcore tv. It's episode 179 from September 24, 1996. We're going to take a quick little break and we'll be back with the next episode. Episode 180 from October 1 of 1996. Take a listen to some ugly kid, Joe. Yeah. Be right back.

If I hate the beach mountains too and I don't like to think about the city now down bigby I live the countryside to and I hate everything about you everything about you and I don't like a thing about your mother I hate your daddy just too.

And.

I get sick when I'm around I can't scare round eyes everything about you everything about you everything about you.

Some.

Say I got a pat on it too but that don't change the way I feel about you.

Might be bringing.

Me down look at Jacob. I know. Brown. Sadeena. Well, I know you know everybody know where it comes waves in the go think it sounds like too bad cause I'm having a ball it never did a thing about you everything about you everything about I can't sink when I'm around I scared to be a wild eye and everything above.

You.

All right, we're back now for the next episode of ECW Hardcore TV. And we're going to be covering ECW Hardcore tv, episode 180 from October 1 of 1996. And we're going to continue with coverage of when worlds Collide, 1996, which was on September 14 of 1996. And this is episode three of three episodes covering the that show when worlds Collide. So they put a lot of coverage in that. And we got two big matches coming up. Maybe not too big matches. Two matches nonetheless. And maybe we get some more fucking promos and coverage of shit going on DCW rather than a fucking 30 to 40 minutes match of crap that we just watched.

Yeah.

Even though wasn't. It wasn't really crap, but yeah, it was just not a good episode.

Nope.

When it comes down to it. And, uh, it's funny, we. We gave good commentary after the fact, after recording about how we felt about what happened. So I just wanted to air it out there. We weren't big fans of what happened there. So let's get into this new episode, though. October 1, 1996. Got a runtime of 52 minutes in 27 seconds. And you guys are all set up, ready to go.

5227-5257 okay, you said 27.

Yeah, you definitely said 27.

I just wanted to make sure. I'm watching the rest. Same thing, and I'm not gonna. But I have 30 extra seconds.

I have an outro song. Do you play that world's collide song by Power Man 5000?

We already did that.

We did?

Yeah. Your brother requested it back in the day.

What a dickhead.

Yeah. Yeah. When. When we did world's collide 1994. Ah, yeah.

Okay. Scratch that.

All right, so I caught you on that one. You guys caught me on 5227. Thanks. Thanks for that. All right, so we got 52, 57, and here we are. I'll give a countdown as always. Three down to one. I'll say play. When I say play, we all click play. Three, two, one. Playdead.

Welcome to extreme championship wrestling.

Jesus. Fucking volleyball.

Yeah, where's the volume thing?

Right here. It's. Yeah, yep. Yeah, I'm always doing it wrong. Why is this video always so good? From this Internet archive? Damn. Oh, badass song. War machine shit.

Keeps freezing.

Freezing.

Yeah. I'm gonna refresh this and catch up to you. It's freezing, like, 3 seconds.

I was. I was just gonna say that on the first episode of my podcast.

Cheap.

Low. Cheap plug.

Not a cheap plug. It's fucking do it, man.

Do it. The very first episode, the very first match, Minoru Suzuki has the same kind of a entrance where he has a black towel over his head and he just looks like he's ready to murder somebody.

So, Minor Suzuki is the same guy that's still wrestling, right?

Oh, yeah, yep. He. He's. As I mentioned on the episode.

Aw.

And he's still wrestling. Yeah, he shows up in aw. I think he was in Japan, but, you know, before it was bought by Tony Khan and all that, he had.

A match with moxley.

Yeah, yeah. He's got, like. He's got, like, shapes shaved into his head, like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And his ears stick out like elephant ears. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Murder Grandpa, they call him.

Yeah, I liked him a few years ago before. Before aw even was in existence and was coming back.

Sure.

Yeah, he's badass.

He is a badass. Yeah, yeah. I didn't I bring this up, but he also lives in infamy as the guy that stiffed the hell out of Asuka in a mixed tag match. Oh, a few years back. I say more than a few years.

Back, but he's the first one that's different.

No, but he. I mean, he stiff the shit out of her like he was. He was. He was beating her up like. Like you feel bad for. For her.

You know that's not what I meant, right?

No, I knew what you meant. I was trying to be a little classier.

Hey.

I mean, heck, I'd. I'd stiffer. I love Asuka. I think she is gorgeous.

She can spray on me.

Okay.

Spit out. Hey, what's your.

We got a 258.

259. Three minutes.

Let me know when you're at 315.

Okay.

Oh, we got Johnny Smith. Fucking Johnny Smith again. Come on, man.

14.

I'm in. Yeah, this looks like Stephen Regal and Bulldog.

Yeah, bulldog. Dynamite kid.

Yeah.

Regal combo.

Fucking abomination. Some would say he's abomination.

And Taz has just got fucking bronzer on all over his body.

Hey, let me ask you something, Brew. When. When you. When you watch NCW, look back at this time, did you think Taz was black?

No, I didn't.

I used to. I used to think he was. That he was, like, black.

Yeah.

I thought Johnny be bad was black.

Yeah, apparently.

Yeah. Yeah, you're right. It was. I thought Taz was just italian.

Yeah.

Yeah, it. Nothing, Jimmy. I'm surprised he thought he was black, because we grew up with a lot of people like Taz around us.

Portuguese.

But he seemed like Portuguese to me. Like Portuguese.

Like a half black to me. Like, obviously he's not, like, full black, like, you know what I mean?

Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe that's.

Yeah.

Probably more like what I was thinking.

But I. Yeah, I was more lines of like, what I grew up around as portuguese people. Like, he just seems like a portuguese guy. Yeah, we portuguese people.

No, portuguese people. What is it, Samoan?

I think he's. I think he's italian. Yeah.

Synchro last name?

Yeah.

Pete. And his first name is Pete.

Yeah.

Peter. Synergy.

Look at that bridge, man.

Yeah.

He's from Brooklyn.

Rick. Would you say Paul? You what? Bill of Honza, rather. Bill Hanzo. Cuban.

Cuban.

That's fucking a stretch, man. I don't know. Cuban? All right, maybe. Yes.

Well, his real last name is Sierra.

Okay.

He's. He's born in Portsmouth, New Hampshire, apparently.

Oh, yeah. So close to Cuba.

No. Well, his. What do you call it? I've heard it was supposed to be the cuban assassin was his cousin, but now. Now I'm reading that. I don't. I think it was just. They were friends. So maybe. Maybe I'm. Maybe I'm wrong. Although the cuban assassin, also his last name was Sierra, so.

That was probably his way into the business.

Yeah.

I'm related to this guy. Can I be a reference?

That's my cousin.

I'll just ride this out. I'll just be a ref. I'm not looking to be a wrestler or anything. And let me just ride this out as a ref. Don't question me anymore.

Yeah. Fucking Fonzie's the man, so.

Yes.

Doesn't. Doesn't matter. He's. He's an annoying little prick, and that. That means he's doing his job. Well, look at.

Look at the he's getting right now.

Yeah. These dudes that cops having to step in. In the way with his bully bat.

Fucking legit bully bat.

Yeah. Thing covers half of his leg.

That's crazy. That they actually used to wear that in 1996. All right, we're gonna come up with a mashup name for Johnny Smith here. Davey. Johnny Boyden, David. Johnny boy dynamite. Oh, shade dropping on his head. Oh, he does that.

He landed on his head.

That was. That was bad boys, fellas.

Oh, my God.

We got a career altering injury, I think, and adrenaline's gonna get him through this.

Never mind. A mashed up name for Johnny Smith. Mashed up fucking brain right there. Jesus.

Like a piranha who smells blood. He put a cheek in the armor of Johnny Smith.

He put a chink in the armor. It's not called the chink in the armor. Yeah, Joey, a chink in the armor.

Isn't that what the word is, though?

Kink?

I thought it was kink.

I've always heard a chink like. Like, not the racist term.

Rick's canceled.

All right, sorry, guys. Podcast over.

Hybrid. The tire asian market of the hybrid wrestling podcast is just tank.

I know. And of course, what are all my episodes gonna be? Japanese stuff. Great.

Well, let's see. I'll start with Kink. Tink versus kinks. Well, I'm already searching, and there's a thing that pops up right away. Is it chink or kink in the armor? Yeah, the idiom, chink in one's armor refers to vulnerability. Hey, I don't know. I guess I was aware that Chink was not appropriate, so I always had kink.

Yeah, me too. I thought it was a. Like a kink and hose.

What does kink and armor mean? A small weakness. So it's both, I guess. It's interchangeable.

Everyone wins.

I guess it depends on how. King Tink, whatever the fuck. King Ching chang. All right, whatever. Let's go for fucking. Let's just go full. All right. A fucking joking hands podcast. Oh, yeah, I guess pals and Bill of Honzo. I love you. I love the fucking whistle on like crazy. That's one of the greatest gimmicks ever. Like, how did WWF not want Bill Fonzo in the fucking whistle? Like, it's basically the new Jimmy Hart is what he's doing. And they had him as a referee, and then they fucking. I don't know, maybe he's just an asshole.

Drugs back then. So it's quite possible, right?

Could be that.

Yep. But as I've noted before, Vince McMahon paid to send him to rehab, so.

Yeah, you mentioned that. But at this point, with this match, this. This match should be over.

Yeah, this is test.

Should have fucking dropped him on his head. When he did and pinned him. We're getting to the point where JV was out with the last match on the last episode. This is going too long.

Well, I did note while we're watching this match and trying not to fall asleep, did. No, it's not that boring, but it's. It's dragging in the. The notes that you had put about the match that we just watched. The furness and Dan Crawford Lavon versus Sabu and RVD match and what Uncle Dave had rated it between three and a half to four stars.

Oh, it was.

The boat was described as. As super stiff, all Japan style with excellent psychology and building to great fall false finishes. I don't agree with that. But Sabu missed a lot of spots. Yes, he did.

Yes, always.

And looked awesome on the ones that he didn't miss again. Yeah, I'll agree. He did look good on the ones that he didn't miss, but. Which made the match sloppy.

Yeah, I mean, that.

Hey, that sums it up.

Yeah, that's probably exactly what we were thinking, so. Yeah, good call. There we go. Fucking Taz. Finally killing his victim here. How time, man. What is it? Why does this have take so long?

I love the whistle.

That is. Keep that whistle.

I don't know what I like better, the whistle or natural born killers.

Now, I did a little research as well. Well, right now. And apparently Johnny Smith actually had a legit shoulder injury after this. So I don't know whether it happened on that suplex where he landed on his head and, like, he fucked his shoulder up or. Oh, if it's something. But yeah, he's got a. He's got a shoulder injury. It's not. Nothing life threatening. You know, it doesn't, um. It's not gonna be a career ender or anything. It's just gonna need some time off.

Yes, I see that here. Johnny Smith missed the weekend because of a shoulder injury on the. Yeah, 13 show. All right, has talking gotta hear this.

I very rarely say this.

I respect you.

You've paid your dues and I released.

My hold early so you don't throw up your lunch. But I respect you.

If I was Johnny Smith, I'd smack him in the face of saying that to me. Yeah, fuck yourself. The fuck you think you are? Been wrestling longer than you. Shut the fuck up, little midget. Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna throw up my lunch. What a dickhead move that was. He shakes his hand like a pussy. But I love test on. I don't care. That's cool. But playing the role of Johnny Smith. I'd be like, what?

Fuck you.

He should have walked out of the ring, not shook his hand. If he's not gonna smack him, just leave.

Yeah, for real.

Oh, father, call Heyman.

He's using his shoot name. This is real.

Now we always talk about that sabu shirt I bring up. And we know Taz was involved with the t shirts. Did Taz draw the fucking sabu? Sure.

I'm gonna say yes even if it's not true. Just cuz you know what, while the truth don't have a good story.

Yeah, right. That's the spirit.

That just makes the shirt even better. If Taz is the one that drew that shitty zabu shirt.

Yeah, to troll him. Oh, you want it? You want a t shirt? I'll give you a fucking t shirt.

I fucking made you a t shirt. I made you money, you fucking asshole. Hasn't. Johnny Smith does not ring. Johnny Smith. Go back home, have some fish and chips. Fuck out. Go home.

Message his own word. He's got something to say. And now he's told it to life.

Yeah, he's getting a lot of love. Just push.

Yeah, he's getting. Well, at this point they're pushing for.

Half a year away.

Yeah, they're pushing the sabotas feud. Really because that they're kind of basing the first pay per view around it.

He's not a company guy.

In April of 97.

Yeah, although at this point I think they, they had, they had it aimed for February or March.

Oh really?

Yeah, yeah. Well, you know what's coming with in November in, in revere.

Okay. Yeah, yeah.

That, that push, that pushed it back.

Oh man, that's not gonna be on hardcore tv though, right?

I do not think that they show that on hardcore tv because of illegal reasons.

Yeah, I'm sure.

Yeah.

I wonder. I'll never for able to get.

It's on inside Edition. That's, that's how a lot of people saw it.

That's probably what we'll have to add in then.

Yeah, I'm like 99% sure it's, it's somewhere. I mean like you say, talk to the guy across the pond. Mind games.

I'm looking forward to that. Yep. Mind games in your house. That was good pay per view.

It was. That's the one with the Sean mankind.

Yeah. Great match.

Yeah, there's, there's sand up.

There we go.

Wws on ECW in Savio, Vegas. Face.

Fucking JBL.

Is Pauly holding him back?

That's JBL.

Yes. Yeah.

Oh wow. I didn't know he was any CW.

No, no. That was. Wow.

How'd they use that footage?

They were working together. Yep. Nobody knew at the time, but.

Oh, this was that period.

All right.

Yeah. Vince was.

And then open up the railing at raw the next night. Holds up the sabu fears Taz sign.

Yeah. Which is fucking great. Oh. Like they're putting their own product over still.

Yep. That was, that was what the. If you have footage of last Sunday or last Monday night, give us. That was what they. Yeah.

Gotcha.

We want to buy the footage from you. No, you don't. You already had the fucking footage. Come on.

Yeah.

But, uh. Yeah, so while, while Paul's talking real quick, this. At this point, Vince and Paul Heyman were in cahoots doing business together because of WCW's dominance with the NWo and everything. It was kind of, you know, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Yep.

They want talent exchange type thing.

Yeah. Yep.

And that's, ECW basically became a fetus system at this point.

Yeah. And not in about completely. Yeah. But a year or so, you're going to see Al Snow show up in ECW again and reinvent himself.

Right. They send their guys down there.

Yep.

To reinvent themselves.

Yep.

And now else knows the perfect one. Yeah. He goes down, he revitalizes his career, but then he just, like, going forward from there. Like, he's. That's who he is now. He's a guy that can help promote up and coming talent, and it's funny that he was like, the test for that. Like, all right, we got you, and we're gonna send you there, and you're gonna learn some things, and you're gonna come back, and then that's what he does now as. As a trainer.

Yeah. Yeah. Unfortunately, there's another guy that they send down there that from WWF that doesn't.

Do as well as work.

Yeah, it doesn't always work, Brock.

Us.

Yeah. The less said, the better.

Yeah.

Using best of the best.

No, we talked about that back in the day. It's not the same guy, though.

Same.

Every said that. Yeah. It is the same name. Yeah. But we, we had talked about on an early bottom line wrestling cast episode.

Ah.

And then I look back and it's like, oh, it's the same name, but it's not the same guy.

Gotcha.

Same character, though. Like, same.

See? Yeah, right. You're right, though. It is like me, head type, fucking.

Jack, big bodybuilder looking dude.

Yeah, totally. Sounds like. What movie was that from? The Steven Seagal movie or Van Damme movie.

But best of these two.

Best of the best. Who's invested the best to the characters.

From the people from best of the best one?

Yeah. Well, I mean, I don't think there was any big. I don't think there was any big.

Names like Eric Roberts.

Yeah, yeah.

Gravitz. Okay. Yeah.

Asian dude.

Re.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, Tommy re or something's his name. Whoa, what's this?

That's Miss Patricia getting slopped.

Whoa, whoa. This time, whatever.

I said, I said, I said, go ahead, make it. Make your own joke.

I don't have one.

Yeah, me either.

Mustafa, though, is that. He's a fucking shit.

It's a public enemy.

Stevie. Stevie looked like fucking centimer punk being a fucking public enemy character.

Yeah. Number 225.

It'S. It's week after week with me about Stevie is the fucking highlight of the shows when he's on.

Yeah, yeah, I agree with that unsung hero. Yeah, man. He may.

Nothing wrong with that, right? Kinky niana chicken Yama. You know me. We'll just call that king of the hill humor right there. Yeah. I call it big old man they gonna ban on, man. Oh, man.

Oh, that a VCR.

All right, so we got the gangsters on here right now is new Jack.

Because Mustafa got held up at the airport, apparently.

Semantics. I just wanted to bring up something his gay. It's new Jack, New Jackson. And because of the whole fucking it, they know, they all. It reminded me of a movie. And the movie is office space.

Mm hmm.

And it made me think of I'll bang two tricks at the same time. That thing, right?

Yeah, rules, right.

And then I thought, oh, outro music got the gangster here. New Jack. We gotta play the song from fucking office space. The fucking dude Michael Bolton plays in his car at the beginning of the movie gangsta doing gangsta shit. It was funny. I just watched that. It was just on the other day and I just had it on. Like, I fucking. It was on Comedy Central, Southern. This popped it on. My wife walked in the room and she never seen it. She was watching like, the fuck is this all space? And she's just laughing like crazy because she never even seen it. She didn't even know about it. It's like this reminds me of work. Like. Yeah, that's the point.

Need your TPS report on my test.

She's thinking about her boss and how Gary Cole's character is like, yeah, the DPS reports. Okay. Yeah. And how he's. He's the boss, but he's never doing anything. He's always just constantly checking on people but not doing any work. And she related to that.

So.

Yeah, it's funny that that movie sold that still resonates. Oh, Stevie's fucking nailed it. Sounds just like. Fucking sounds just like him. Not boomini.

Oh, did you know that guy from office space that goes to chicks at the same time?

Yeah, Dick Bader.

Oh, that's his name. Yeah, he played someone just mentioned it on a podcast. That's how I know this.

He's Rex.

I've seen him in a bunch of.

Yeah, that's.

Yeah.

What pot. Did you listen to that podcast, Rex? Rick?

No, I just. I just remember.

I just knew that.

Yeah, you don't want to take a roundhouse with these babies and he boys on.

Oh, that's about it, man. Yeah, he has like. He's like a very iconic, like, individual. Like, as far as, like in, like, he has like a lot of roles. You'd be like, holy shit, that was him.

Oh, yeah, character.

Yeah. Like voiceovers, all sorts of shit.

Yeah, he was in. He was in Veepdev. I don't know if you guys ever watched Veep on HBO. Vice president with Julia Louis Dreyfus.

Yeah, I've seen parts of it.

He was hilarious in that as well. He plays like an advisor or something. Funny. You think? I go to Stella, they play with themselves. Is that the joke? Hey, Stevie looks alright with those fucking dreads.

Yeah, it works for him. Yeah, sounds really funny.

He gets right into character, man. No matter what he's doing.

Amazing.

And I can't shit on blue, meaning either blooming goes with it.

Yeah. And he's. And he's. He's not as annoying as he used to be. He's. He's now just come play.

Right. He's playing characters now, right? Yeah, his original character sucked, but now at least he's a goof doing goofy things, right?

Yeah.

Instead of being just. What, what am I making? Fart noises? That's basically what.

He was crawling on Todd Gordon's desk.

Yeah, well, that's when he was the blue, blue dust.

Yeah, that sucked.

Blew the.

Right. Like, it was funny to begin with, but it lost. It lost. It lost the sparkle very quickly.

All right, so we just saw a blue meanie. He has the. The cut off public enemy, I guess, hockey sweater. Yes, that would be right. But underneath it looks like he's wearing a sports brae. It does, right, because he has another shirt underneath. Maybe you just want. Maybe he's wearing like a shirt just up top so his titties don't feel like they're all bouncy. I gotta keep this shit tight.

Like a tank top under it, right? Kind of keep the tits in. Yeah, the bro.

The bro. The bro. The bros here.

Yeah.

Wasn't it? No. Was it the bros? Yeah, it's the bro. But then it's Manzio.

Yeah.

Versus bro. Right?

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, that's what they were. The doctor is in.

To take on Tommy Dreamer.

All right, so again, world clips. Let's see if there's any ten from the observer. Let's see. What can I read? Hey, we get some results shows that had occurred. So let me go through September 20, Plymouth meeting, Pennsylvania. ECW had 450 people in attendance. New Jack defeated JT Smith and Little Guido and the batter crew. We saw that clip. That was. They showed clips of that. Doug Furnace defeated Hack Myers in a spike match. Terry Bam Bam Gordon defeated Brian Lee. Mikey Whipwreck defeated Devin Storm. Tommy Dreamer defeated John Cronus in a singles match. And same man defeated Simone Gangsta Matthew. Matthew is a Roman Reigns brother, right?

Yes.

Is it?

Right? Yeah. So that would be use Rosie. Rosie, yeah. So also have Taz defeating Luis McColli. Pitbull number two defeated Shane Douglas. VDQ in the tv title match. Sabu defeated Perry Saturn. And in the main event, Raven defeated Rob Van Dam. UCW champion raven beat Rob van Dam and Plymouth beating Pennsylvania. All right, now back to action.

Get the eliminators and primetime. Brian Lee against Tommy Dreamer and the Mirror. Miracle violence connection.

I tried to forgot about that name. Miracle violence connection. Name sucks.

You all. You don't like that name?

Yeah, I came up last. Last time we had these guys together. But Miracle Violet, I mean, I guess it's good to have a name.

Well, see, I like it because it makes no sense, because it's like, clearly it was. It probably sounds cooler in Japanese.

Yeah, no, I get what you say.

Yeah, right.

It doesn't sound like. Yeah, well, it could sound cool. Another language or just. Or even if you said miracle violent violence, like they don't fucking know what it means, and it just sounds cool. Yeah.

But no matter what, I mean, it's. It's Doc and Gordy, they're fucking both right ass.

That is gonna fucking badasses. Hit badass lariats and.

Yeah, some ass power bombs and the fucking, you know, just beat the shit out of, you know, whoever's in front of them.

Yep. Now, looking at these six men here, which one does not fit the bill here? Which one of these is not like, the other Tommy dreamer. There you go.

All right.

It looks like the fucking security always fucking jacked ass dudes, rip dudes. Big dudes, dick dudes, and then you got. Tommy dream is like, hey, I'm here.

Yeah. Say what you will about Brian Lee, he looks like a biker, at least. He looks tough, you know?

He's fucking, like, six foot six.

Yeah, right? Yeah.

John Cronus. Fucking thick and agile. Yeah, Perry Saturn looks great, always.

Yeah. Perry Saturn's ripped.

Quality of the video just upgraded, like, 100%.

Like.

Yeah.

Jesus Christ.

I thought it was my Internet the whole time.

No, no, it was. It was pretty garbage till about 30 seconds ago, and then all of a sudden, it's, like, hd. There's just clips of this.

Yeah, just clips that.

That looked like it hurt. Get the fuck out of the ring, Brian Lee. Yeah, see? Die. Even dogs like. Fuck you.

Screaming.

Yeah, he's fucking.

He's hyped. The coke is going through his system now. Allegedly.

Allegedly.

Well, no, I think actually.

I mean, is he known for coke?

I was gonna say, unfortunately, doctor death is deceased now. So I'm not wanting to sully the dead, but I'm pretty sure that in his book, he talked about how he. He did a coke back in the day. So maybe not at this point, but definitely in the late eighties and early nineties. But then again, I mean, a lot of wrestlers did coke back in the eighties. It's not. It's not like, you know, he's alone.

Weren't they getting paid in coke and shit?

I don't know about that, but they get. I mean, he was getting paid real well, so he could afford coke and lots of it. You know, the mister perfect next snap.

Well, that was off the second rope. I love Mister perfect style. Like, where he just snap. Snaps it from. Just run it bouncing off the rope.

Yeah.

Great spot that he has. Nice policy, him there. I never understood how fucking dudes could wrestle in jeans. You're not gonna fucking tail shits. I know. In later years, they would make fucking fake jeans. Like Dean Ambrose wore fake jeans.

Oh, right, yeah, yeah.

Like, those were fucking tights that looked like jeans.

Well, they were just high quality stretch jeans. You ever buy a pair of stretchy jeans?

Well, stretch jeans made by the staff and. I mean, did you bought them at Old Navy or something?

No, it said hi.

Well, whatever. I'm pretty sure they were, like, tailored for him.

Falcon Arrow by the staff.

Yeah, good Falcon arrow there.

Did you guys fucking.

Fucking arrow. That's what I call fucking arrow.

No, did you see Cronus do a cartwheel and then a standing moonsault on top of Tommy Dreamer.

Oh, fuck, yeah.

Yeah. That guy's hella. I mean, we went over this, what, last episode?

Yeah, we were.

You guys, like, filled me in on how, like.

Yeah, he's amazing.

He is.

Yeah. He's amazingly agile for. For a guy as thick and tall as he is.

It's a lot of weight to throw around. Yeah, he's hard.

He's like 300 pounds.

Yeah, yeah, definitely.

Yeah. Like, look. Look at that cartwheel on a back handspring. And then he got air on that elbow.

He gets even better after this, too.

Yep. Like I said, at some point, you'll see him bust out the 450. And just as teams up with New Jersey. Fucking us. Scorpio with the 450. Yeah, they. They form a tag team called the gangstinators.

Gangsta natives. Yeah, that'll be fun down the road. Look at this choke slam. Boom. Tommy needs to take the beating. Fuck him. Buell gets to touch you so you can take some bumps. Where the fuck's bulae? Shelter. Oh, there she is.

Right in front of hat guy.

Yeah.

On her knees right now, but, you know, as usual.

Right?

Yeah. As I want her to be.

Joey, that was not a good total elimination. That. That's what. That was weak. Hey, that's the spot. That was a spot to end the match. But that, man, that total elimination looked like shit. I don't know if I'm on a line here, but.

No, no, that's all. I didn't look good.

I came out of nowhere, and he barely connected with the kick. I wasn't expecting a pinfall right there.

It was a cool idea to have them, you know, stop the asiatic spike by hitting the total elimination, but it didn't work.

Yeah, timing was off.

Yeah.

So we're getting replays here of has taken on Kevin Owens. I mean, Paul Farland's tall Kevin Owens.

A man who has been pronounced clinically dead not once but twice. A man who earlier this year began to revitalize his career in Japan. A man who decided to go on feeding his family, doing what he does best, wrestling, fighting. And when Terry Bam Bam Gordy had worked himself into the number one international contender in Japan.

Joey's collar is kind of annoying. Why is it, like, so far off from his neck?

Yeah, the fuck, it's almost like I don't school. We used to, like, you'd put that. You'd tie, you know, tie the tie put around your neck, and then you'd loosen the top button.

Yeah, well, yeah, I still do that, but.

Well, no, but we would do it, and it would look shitty because you'd have it, like, you know what I mean?

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

I like the use of the works.

It looks shitty, but look at that, though. It looks like he's got a turtleneck on, kinda. It's just like, completely even behind his neck. It's loose. All right, let's hear these fuck heads, these guns and roses. Oh, man. Imagine seeing these dudes in a fucking bar. Fuck out of here. I don't know if he has a brain in his head.

The famous story of Doc and somebody else in mid south clearing a bar and just two guys beating the shit out of everybody else while Peewee Anderson. You know, Randy Anderson stood on the bar and took his shirt off and flexed. Yeah, because he was shit faced, I would imagine.

That's without saying, but it's.

But it makes for an amazing visual that you guys know. Those two say Gordy and Williams. I don't think Terry Gordy was there, but two guys look like that clearing the fucking bar. And then got Peely Anderson up on the bar flexing with no kid. Right? Because he can, because nobody's going to do shit to him.

Tommy Dreamer, when your ass goes down for the three count, you can pack that bitch's bag. And the stipulation on my man.

All right, so we got Brian Lee cutting a promo. Didn't need a promo from him. Had enough promos from him in Smokey Mountain. I don't want to relive sucked. There's raven doing nothing again. This guy gets paid.

Mm hmm.

This just looks cool. All right, we got pit bull doing more work than he should. Still cut in longer promos than he's supposed to. Probably hurt his head doing it. October 5, Louis McCauley, Doug Furnace. That seems like a good match.

Hey, Devon, what do you want me to say?

Oh, bubba. Probably getting some attitude, it looks like. Yeah, yeah.

Banged up.

Dudley.

Cool, Shillington, mass. Said, strike one.

That show happened.

I don't think so. But the greyhound one and revere the greyhound did happen.

That was the Massachusetts show. That never happens. The advertising, they're like, fuck you, we're not doing it.

Just the Wonderland dog track in November didn't happen. Engine number nine.

This is where we like to die. Hardcore cafe tv t shirt. Yeah, that. That was a cool shirt. I like that one. I pledge allegiance to the wrestles of ECW and to the violence for which we demand the promotion. Other than how many times the fucking hotline coming up. Hardcore hotline. Who's that peeking in my window?

You must be at least 18 to make this call. Cost is a dollar. 99 /minute.

Marshalls up the asshole on this one. Check. We were bitching about the last episode with having a match for so long, and I would just get in fucking promo commercials. Yeah, on this one.

So better than seeing 60 minutes of SAP boo and whatever, all that other mess that was going on.

Yeah, I have to agree with you. Let's see if I can skim through.

Some notes and how quick delivery actually was.

Delivery? Fucking two months. Yeah, two months.

This t shirt is where it's at.

He can't wear one.

He's too damn fat.

One promotion under Todd politically incorrect with broken tables and barbed wire for all.

Thanks for picking up where I left off. ECF. Oh, Shane. Oh, he called him Anthony Doran.

Look familiar to you? Take a walk over here and show you. It's the locker room in the place that you call home your weightlifting gym. I've been here all day waiting for you and neither one of you showed up. What's the matter, pitbull number two? Are you getting a little soft now that your friend, your partner, your brother can't lift anymore? I pumped iron all day long. I've jogged circles around this building all day long waiting for one of you, both of you, any of you, to show up. I'll be here again tomorrow and the day after that, because I want either of you, both of you in the ring, in your gym, in your house, in the parking lot, because I am the best in the world today. And I'm using both as stepping stones. See you around, boys. I'm done with my workout.

Francine, I'm over here. Shit. We got a fucking pulp fiction promo going on for the next six minutes. Damn. All right. It's funny, the structure of their shows, how it can be focused on one big match and then just be a hodgepodge of promos and shit.

And yet the Hodgepodge flew by, right?

That's true. Hodgepodge did fly by. That's the way it should be, though. That's how WWF tailored their tv early on, too. Yeah, like WWE superstars and challenge. Let's just put as many wrestlers on as you can in an hour, give a variety.

Yeah. Have a two minute squash match. Do a promo segment. Have a. Have an ad, do the event center with Sean Mooney.

Yep. Of the match.

Haven't have an interview in the match. Yeah.

Not only in this country, but in Japan as well. October 26. ECW Arena, South Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. The eliminators collide with Doc.

That's at high incident.

What's high incident?

High incident is the show where Tommy Dreamer and primetime Brian Lee have a scaffold match. And it leads to one of the more famous clips of ECW. See in the intro for years and all that.

Right. Is it late October, though?

Yeah, it's. Yeah, it's mid to late October. I believe.

Those guys, they're not allowed into the mall after closing.

But it looks like, doesn't it?

I used to do mall security and we had those fucking gates.

Swansea.

Yep.

October 26. That's high incident.

Also appearing this Saturday night, newcomer, Louise.

Newcomer. He's been on fucking like five episodes already. Talking about newcomer.

He's been in here for like two months.

And I would have liked to have another match with him on these two past episodes. Sabbath brother.

Little Spike Dudley.

Oh, that's right. He's not even that short, though. All of you, Joey. So shut the fuck up.

Yeah. Fucking bitch.

I don't know that he's taller than Joey. He's my same side. He might be about the same height.

Really?

I mean, I don't know exactly how tall Joey Stiles is, but Joey's.

Oh, Spike's got to be like 510. Maybe. Maybe the same size.

He is billed at five eight.

Spike is.

Yep.

Oh, wow. Please. Probably five seven or five six then.

Joey is billed as five seven, so they're probably close. But I mean, Joey's an announcer, so he might actually be five seven to begin with, so. Oh, I would. I would say that they're probably about the same height.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. That. Yeah. But it's funny though. Joey's talking shit like. Like.

Like he's a, you know, four, four foot eight, you know, or something like Spike is.

Well, it makes sense, though. He's the host of the show. Nobody knows what his real height is.

Yeah.

He hasn't been. I mean, he's been in the ring from time to time.

Yeah, but it's always.

Yeah, right. You're right. Usually got a big guy in there. Primetime Brian Lee would probably look better with the shaved head. Like, that's the one thing that kills me with, like, a buzz. I'm gonna buzz your hair. Well, maybe I look better because you cut my hair.

Yeah.

Maybe I need to get rid of my hair.

This is an improvement.

Can we not do that right now? And I don't know, man. We gotta rank these girls one day.

The women of ECW.

Yes.

I definitely think you should do it like once, once we get closer to the end of the run because. Yeah, you got some people that show up.

See more. Don Marie comes later.

Yeah. Don Marie Electra.

Yeah.

Miss Congeniality.

Hmm. And we know her.

We do know her. Believe the rumors. So doesn't have the mexican locker room.

Cold blooded.

Sorry. Amy.

Dumbass. Amy dumbass. Yeah. Oh, that song. She did notice back in the day, nobody made the song more popular than her.

Yeah, that was a highlight of my high school years.

Wasn't crazy though. Like, going to school like, girls that became like, normal to do is like, put your underwear up so guys could like, look at your fucking underwear.

Well, I mean, I went, I went to private school, so I didn't have that. I didn't have that. That pleasure. But I did. I did. I did have the fact of. They wore skirts a lot, so, you know, you to pass papers back sometimes. And sometimes they were a little, you know, they weren't as good about keeping the legs together, so. Okay.

All right, all right.

It was a. I had some interesting times in high school. We'll just leave it at that.

That.

All right, so that wraps up another episode of you said it'll be hardcore tv. That was episode 180 from October 1, 1996. And I can't not say that October 1 is my grandfather's birthday. Bought 1925. Passed away about ten years ago. No, Rip.

Grandpa, was he the, was he the one that you said Dory funk looked like?

No, that's my, my other grandfather.

That's the other grandfather.

Bill. Yeah. Will.

Gotcha.

William. William Pro. My grandfather, Ted Howarth. October 1.

Gotcha.

Maureen. Served in world War two and Korean war.

Hoorah.

Yeah. So anyway, that good episode there, obviously hardcore tv, much better than the first one, I think. Even though we had a. We had, we had a match with some. Some stars are RVD and Sabu, but they're fucking boring as fuck.

Yeah.

And, and we got much more jam packed episode here. We got Taz, Bill, Alfonso, Stevie Richards, and Blue Meanie popping in like every five minutes to just make things fun. So. And then great promo by Shane Douglas at the end. So fun, fun episode there. So that wraps things up and we'll take a quick little break here and we'll be back for the wrap up in just a moment. All right, we're back now for the extreme ECW Livecast wrap up and we'll be back in a couple of weeks for the next two episodes covering October. That'll be October 8. And 15th of 1996. That's ECW hardcore tv episode 181 and 182. So we'll be back for that. So thank you for listening and continue to support us. And we'll be back at it in two weeks. Also, please check out our latest episode. JV and I did the bottom line wrestling cast the career of Stone Cold Steve Austin. Our latest episode was stunning. Steve, episode 16, it's just dropped. It's called plans change and we're covering September through October of 1992. This is when plans change for Steve Austin. He goes from singles wrestler and it changes things up. He's going to be a tag team wrestler now, and that leads to him becoming a member of the Hollywood blondes. Please check that out. Fun episode. So check it out. Bottom line wrestling cast falls on Twitter at bottom line cast. And also check me out on Twitter as well or xdev, nPRU eight three. Well, JV at John Van Dammer trial, Rick be Rick BB at Leo Wyatt 85. And again, follow us as a complete team here on the extreme cast at Extreme cast. Thanks, guys. Listen to JV. Rick, any final words before we head on out of here? I know it's late. We got to get the fucking bed. So what do you get?

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I'm glad I didn't hit. Stop recording for that.

Yeah.

Damn it feels good to be a gangster? A real gangsta ass nigga plays his cards right? A real gangsta ass nigga never runs his fucking mouth? Cause real gangsta ass niggas don't start fights? And niggas always got a hot cap showing all these boys I was shot em? But real gangsta ass niggas don't flex nuts? Cause real gangsta ass niggas know they got and everything's cool in the mind of a gangster? Cause gangsta ass niggas think deep up 365 I yo twenty four seven? Real gangsta ass niggas don't sleep? And all I gotta say to you wanna be, wanna be cocksuckin pussy pranksters is when the fire dies down? What the fuck you going through? Damn, it feels good to be a gangster?

Damn it feels good to be a gangster? Feeding the poor and helping out with their bills?

Although I was born in jewish Jamaica.

Now I'm in the US making deals. Damn, it feels good to be a.