It's a new year stuff.

Oh, my God.

I've traveled with this guy. I've trained with them, I've broken bread with them. And I choked him out.

The final battle between Raven and Tommy Dreamer.

You did your job and ran the fuckers off.

Look at that.

From the twisted steel section of Dudleyville.

It's over. It's over. He did it.

Extreme Championship Wrestling has been thrown into disarray.

This, my friends, is E C W.

Welcome to the extreme ECW live cast. And this week we are covering ECW hardcore TV episodes 2, 11 and 212. And that's May 6th and May 13th, 1997. I'm Mike PR along with JV and Rick BB how you guys doing?

Good.

Doing great, man.

Good. Great. Love it. Versus think. Let's get right into it.

Hey, if you're listening, give us a follow on somewhere like Twitter X. Whatever the. Follow me Mike Prue at NPRU 83. Follow JV at John Van Damage and follow Rick baby at Leo White 85. And of course, check us out at Extreme Cast.

And also check out JV and on the Bottom Line Wrestling cast the career of Stone Cold Steve Austin. And we have covered the whole career, the entire career of Stone Cold Steve Austin. And we are now covering Stunning Steve Austin. And we have reached 1994. It's January of 1994 is what we're covering. And it's all about a chicken suit. Chicken suit, chicken mask, jv. How crazy is that?

It's terrible.

That's how terrible it is. Yeah, that's how it is. It's terrible. Terrible. It sucks.

But I don't want in my wrestling, you.

You could maybe argue that it sucks.

Yeah.

There you go. It sucks.

I mean, Colonel Robert Parker is there.

You nailed it.

Shots fired. Shots fired.

I love it. All right, so with that said, we are gonna get back to what we do. Let's cover some ECW hardcore TV. And that is June 6, 1997. And I just want to give a little disclaimer.

When it's on different apps, whatever the. Wherever you find that. I don't know, like sometimes this episode is going to be.

May 8, 1997 instead of May 6. But regardless, it's still ECW hardcore TV to 11.

Okay, so that's what it is. And we're gonna watch it and we're gonna check it out and we're gonna watch along with it. And.

I don't know if you're gonna watch along with it. You could probably go on WWE Network and find this episode. It's season five, episode 19, May 8, 1997.

Going to be exactly the same. But if you want to kind of follow along with us, that's fine, do that.

But we're gonna watch along with what we have.

Damn right.

And it's 55 minutes and 28 seconds. And the matches are gonna originate from Asbury Park, New Jersey.

And that was May 5, 1997.

And I'm not going to get into it now, but jv, we had a good time back in Asbury Park, New Jersey, not too long ago.

Did. Oh, yeah. That's where you went.

Yeah, that was a good time.

All right, so I'll give a countdown.

But let me get myself situated as well. You guys all set?

Yeah.

All right.

So you wait on me.

I'll give a countdown. Three down to one. When I say play, we all click play. All right? 3, 2, 1, play.

All right, so we're spread a camera here.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There he is. Bobby Manchester.

Explain that.

I can't.

Nah, you can't.

It's a deep cut for you.

That's a deep cut.

Oh.

And you give that deep cut. And I was like giving like real deep cuts earlier.

Dude, it's not even a comparison.

Hey, make sure you don't release any of my deep cuts earlier.

Wasn't. We weren't recording. Don't worry.

I know, I know, I know.

We're going to take you to highlights of the three way dance for the ECW World Tag Team Championship.

Rick, by the. By the way, Rick. Yeah, I'll. I'll send you a couple pics of.

I.

All right, deal.

He doesn't know what I'm talking about. Yeah.

What are you talking about?

Right?

You like cut out. I didn't hear anything. Fell asleep.

What?

I'm right here. What are you talking about, fell asleep? I was talking to Rick about sending the pictures to.

I guess it cut out. I couldn't hear you guys. We got mayhem in the ring here.

Oh, we got. It's a Gaga. I told you that. Now.

It looks like he's getting his ass.

Yeah.

Kronos and Saturn with the teal colored trunks.

Big Dick Dudley fresh out of jail.

Look at the umbrella. That's funny.

Give him credit. I've never seen anybody hit. Hit with an umbrella.

What a name. Big Dick Dudley.

Big Dick Dudley.

All right.

I just said. Yeah, okay. All right, all right.

Just saying though. All right.

Ah, okay.

How's that?

Yeah.

And I didn't have to give you a back a bag of French fries for it.

There is nothing going on in this match to talk about?

Nah.

Come on. New jack city. New jack city.

Despite his.

His broken ankle.

Yeah. So Bubba Ray got injured apparently. Right. Right here.

I don't know if it was here or if it was at the pay per view.

But he's. He's. Yeah, he has a. A broken ankle and he's going to.

Be out of action.

Mustafa's adjusting the table.

Yeah, this is so, like. Come on.

So contrived, right?

Oh, here it comes.

Oh, my God.

Holy even jump.

No, he just fell.

Yeah, he just. He just flopped.

He had a stroke.

He's got a concussion.

The stretchers.

New Jack being set up for the kill. New Jack hammered from behind by Bubba Ray.

Come on. New Jack's gonna get up. Boom.

That was a terrible choke slam.

Horrible. And he's cheating. His feet on the ropes.

Ass cheater.

Spin kicks.

Big Dick needs to go.

Dick to go. Is he coming back?

Oh, he's coming back, right?

Who's that? Jv.

Oh, you.

It wasn't me.

Oh, jv.

That was me.

Impressive. I like it.

This really. This was my favorite tag team of the time. The Eliminators are the best.

Yeah, they are.

Jv, how do you feel? Like that auction we had.

I thought it was great.

I think my team was pretty solid.

I haven't looked at anyone else's team.

I spent a lot of money on Tatum.

He should have went for more. At that point in the. In the draft, I feel like he should have went for more. Some people sat on their set on their money way too long, and guys went like, mad cheap.

Well, that's what happens.

Like, I got yo kick for 65, and what you get for Tatum, 72. I even got Jokic cheap.

Those guys should have been, like $80 in an 18 league, in my opinion.

Yeah, but only so many people can be at that value. You know what I mean?

Well, that's the thing there. If you. I think it was like, Alan at the time. It was Alan and two other people, and I was like, wow, they're just gonna. They're not gonna try and get, like, a top. Like, you know, a legit top 10 player. It was weird.

Yeah.

It was just strange to me.

Well, I think they just didn't know strategy.

Yeah. Probably.

Like, I went into it knowing, like.

Common sense at that point. Point, like, I don't know.

That's what I think everyone else kind of had. Like, there's like, five people who went after a top player from what I recall.

Dude, I went after, like, four Top players.

Me too.

I wanted. I wanted my whole lineup based on top players. Then everybody else can be scrubs. I don't care. I'll figure it out.

All right. Ravishing Rick Rude heading to the ring.

Of the music though.

Yeah. He is the new co host of ECW tv.

Can he take bumps?

No, he's not supposed to take bumps. Right. Why? Why Rick?

Lloyd's a London.

Explain that.

Yeah, basically he had a Lloyd's of London policy because in 1994 he. His backup in Japan in a match against Sting. And basically the Lloyds of London payout for injury was better than if he came back, apparently. So he just milked it. But it was a thing that he couldn't be at first. I think there was even a fear of him being on tv. But that's why the mask and everything. But then they realize, yeah, he can be on the tv. He just can't take a pump.

Yeah.

With just a twist of rudeness.

Imagine if he was able to just continue on and wrestle.

Oh yeah.

Like.

He could have just been like Austin too.

Good. Rolled into a cool ass character.

Right. Because he already was a prick. You know, an arrogant guy. Just turn that up a bit and you get, you get Triple H, you know.

Yeah, well, that Triple H, that's all he did was just still, still Austin and franchises. Shane Douglas and Rick.

Rick Rude.

Right.

And bang. Vince's daughter.

Right.

One step. Just how far will the other promotions.

Go to copy ecw?

You will not believe this report. And it's all true. And Extreme Valet is the center of a federal lawsuit involving wcw. Leave your messages.

Oh, I think there was something in the notes about that.

What's that?

What? Paul just said that there's a lawsuit between WCW and ECW over an Extreme Valet.

Oh, kimono, right.

Kimona. Yep.

So what was that?

ECW was suing wcw? Well, not suing, but threatening to sue WCW over the use of the. The Extreme team. Which I don't remember that being.

Either. And. Come on. And using Kimona's name. Because Kimona. Although I don't. It's weird because she doesn't come into WCW until like 99, I think, or 2000.

At this point. Yeah, maybe they're trying to get her in at this point.

Yeah, that's possible.

Anyway, this music sucks in the background.

Yeah, it does.

Anyway.

Yeah.

It's full color.

Full color. What would he do?

Like Extreme Warfare Volume 2 is like the never ending promo.

Yeah. You, you will see this until they pretty much close.

It's constant.

You Want to see. You want to see titties?

You want to see Sabu suck and not even jump off the table? Jump out the ropes and bail? Hit a table. Yeah. There you go.

Bam Bam's fire costume.

Yep.

Well, it makes sense that they had Bam Bam, because now Bam Bam is back. But here's Rick's favorite thing.

Yeah, hit it, Rick. No, Formerly my favorite thing.

Well, do it again. Yeah, no, sorry.

I know you're not opponent atop the ECW Arena.

There you go.

I thought you meant the actual segment was my favorite. I'm, like, not second favorite now, along with.

All right, so we got Joey Styles and Rick Rud here, and Shane Douglas is in the ring now.

We got Bam Bam rocking a little chain here.

Hey, lto, the.

Him at the fairly legal pay per view. Well, it's obvious to me, Joey, that Bam Bam had already eaten dinner and dessert, because Shane Douglas would only be a snack for the big man. As far as Shane Douglas goes, he must have flipped his wig. We all saw the pay per view. His own supposed partner, Brian Lee, clean the lint from Francine's belly button from the inside out.

What a line. Holy say about it.

He stands in front of a camera with a plastic smile on his face and pretends like everything's a hunky dory.

Either. Shane Douglas is one kinky cat.

Can anyone pull off their mustache today?

Very few.

Jv. Yeah, Rick, I don't know about you, but jv, you, your dad, and my dad are prominently known for having mustaches like that.

Yes.

And. And we don't. What the up with that?

I had one. I loved it. Just hates it. I would have one.

To be honest, I feel like I should have one.

I got a one.

Yeah, I know. If I. If I had one. That be epic.

I think I want to grow one for November again. You've never grown one.

I've never done it.

I've done it a couple times.

November. You want me to do it?

Oh, I can't say I'm gonna commit to it. Actually, I'm not doing it. If I do do that, I'm gonna do that in the summer. I ain't doing that during the school year.

It.

But anyway, I'm just saying my dad. Your dad had mustaches?

Yeah.

What the.

Well, well, they're from the same era. There's a lot of that era with mustaches.

It's not.

It's just them.

No, I'm not saying it's weird, but it's like, we should do it, too.

Yeah.

Let's do it.

But there are a lot of people that age with mustaches. It's pretty funny.

Oh, look at this, Stevie. I'm sick of Raven.

Raven sucks.

Well, Rick, what's going on with Raven at this time?

It's a.

Well, Raven was making inroads to join wcw and in fact they offered him a three year six figure deal to come in and join the nwo. But Raven had a. Yeah, I know. Raven had a contract with ECW until August. Obviously we're in May now, so that's a couple months away. And then Dave Meltzer was saying that he couldn't appear on any Pay Per view events until October 13th, which would be six months after April 13th, you know, barely Legal. So there's something written into his contract about that.

Yeah, so they wanted to have his big match or send off at Hardcore Heaven. All right.

Yes, yes. And Heyman was negotiating with WCW to basically give me money if, if I let him leave early.

You know, break the contract or whatever you want to call it. But WCW also was trying to poach several other guys at the time, like Douglas, Francine, the Eliminators, Taz, just all kinds of. Basically because of the pay per view. WCW was like, maybe we should take these guys.

Yeah, there shouldn't be anything wrong with thinking that.

Right.

But lust they know that WWF already had a deal.

Yeah, yeah. And looking at which is funny with.

Like Rob Van Dam where they try to make an angle where it's like oh, where is he going? Wcw, wwf. And.

People should full know he's going wwf.

Right.

Because that's what the deal is. But still they make it seem like oh, he might go to nitro.

Just to with them.

Right.

What's this? What we got here?

Blue meaning the rude cam.

Oh, you get.

Okay, that's what I'm talking about.

Those are bodacious.

I want to be the man in the box.

Yes.

I'm going to forget you said that, but Tommy looks like he means business.

John.

Very apart.

He's also looking pretty sweaty.

All right, dav, I sent you something probably shouldn't have, but there is.

Sent me it.

Yeah.

Where.

You send it.

T?

Where we talk.

On. On Skype.

You figure it out.

Just wanted to share. I just wanted to share.

Oh, if I have to use my phone, my phone's in the other room. I gotta go grab it.

All right, don't worry about it.

It's just whatever. Rick knows all of this.

And Rick likey lucky. Yeah, yeah.

Look at this goofball by the way.

That Was the squirting. That was the whole squirting story.

Yeah.

But.

Yeah. Jv. Doesn't it look like he's trying to be Sting?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Corporal Punishment guy dressed as GI Joe.

Oh, Corporal. Yeah, we talked about him last time. The deal.

I know. My memory sucks.

Yeah, my memory sucks, too. But I know Corporal Punishment came up and I was like, that guy.

Does he have other colors, though?

Other color Camo.

Yeah, like his.

I would hope so.

He sucks.

Yeah.

Did we like him last time?

I don't think. I don't think so. He took a bump off of that.

I can't do a forward roll.

No, there's. There's no way we give a. About this guy.

No.

I don't know.

Couple punishment. Looks promising.

No. Oh, here we go.

We need these T shirts.

Need to buy these T shirts, kid.

We're gonna get them, kid.

What the. You mean you don't want to be w. No, the. You.

Yeah, we need a BTTwo.

Or we're doing a Downton. Rick, you got me a recap on the Downton story here.

If you got it, go for it.

Pay per view.

Oh, I got it. I just paused by accident. Is this the name of Down Behind.

Downton is not a pay per view.

And.

Jungle Boogie.

This post. That poster sucks. If you bought that poster, you suck ass.

I love how Rick laughs at that. All right. ECW at Downingtown, Pennsylvania, Farmers Market. By the way, 1997.

Chris Candido defeated Mikey Whipwreck. Taz defeated Corporal Punishment. Raven defeated Chris Ken. Chris Jetty. Rather easy to be TV champion. Shane Douglas defeated Balls Mahoney, who's getting a big push at this time because he's got big balls.

They're such big balls.

He's got the biggest.

Yeah, whatever. Okay, so Tommy Dreamer and Spike. Spike Dudley. I always love how Spike. Just like the Dudleys, I'm teaming up with whoever I want. And that's how he was in wwe, too. Like this. I'm a Dudley, but the Dudleys, I was doing whatever I want.

And then Stone Gold's like, it goes.

Remember that, J. Your girls a bimbo.

So that was a big one. But anyway, big deal. Sandman defeats.

That was from the hotline, right?

It was backstage. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was kind of like just a hotline interview. Yeah.

But to wrap up that Donington pay per view. Not paper, just a farmer's market.

A ple.

Whatever. The. No pla. The out of here.

Rob Van Dam and Cebu beat the Pit Bulls.

I don't even know they're wrestling at this point. But whatever.

Perry, Saturn and Cronus.

The gangsters.

And the injured deadly boys, what would he do? So Downingtown show. Yeah, it looks good, but probably sucked ass because everyone was injured.

But then move on to May 10, 1997 at the ECW Arena. And we're gonna get to those shows, those matches in a bit.

Well, let's take a look at what's going on in the ring here. So we got Tommy Dreamer getting up here. Jb. What's going on here?

Who is that?

That's Luis Pacoli.

Yeah. Louis Pagoli. Yeah, yeah, he kicked ass.

Shit out.

He's like Sandman evolved.

Yeah, he's trying to be Sandman. That's his whole game.

Yeah, he's like a mix of both.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, you. You're. You're right. Yeah, he's.

He's been.

Tommy. Yeah, yeah.

He's got the cast on his hand.

No.

Yeah, he put Tommy through the table with a pretty swank dvd.

What else has he been in?

What is it? What is he called, though?

Dvd.

He has.

He just. No, it just calls it the Death Valley Driver.

Yeah. Death Valid Driver.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just said dvd, but, yeah.

Yeah. Sorry, who.

What do you think? Scroll through Tommy's mind, Rick. I know exactly what's going through Joey. My career was cut short just like this.

First thing through his mind, Tommy dream his career cut.

It's not cut short.

She's like, I don't want him to bleed on me. I'm wearing a white shirt.

All right, so we got good commentary on this.

All right. At least we get some more Rick Rude.

Look at how much taller he is compared to Joey, of course.

Like probably six, two or something.

Bit off a bit more than he could chew in the fuel dream.

I thought he was taller than that, but I didn't think Joey was that short.

Right in front of Dreamers, baby. Right in front of beautiful Beulah, a beautiful woman with a great mind and a wonderful. @ Ask Tommy. She's got a beautiful gluteus maximus. What's the problem? I think we're pushing. Are you looking at something? I'm not looking at it, no. Do you see any.

Pants? He's built at 63, so you're right. He's.

Probably.

Yeah. 6,000.

162. Can we say.

This?

You see any panty.

Lines? Okay, you say potato, I say.

Potato. He said.

Ass. We got a problem.

On the topic of gluteus maximus.

Is. You're.

Up. You said potato. I said potato. Get the out of Marvelous.

Eyes. Potato.

Patata. Tomato.

Tomato.

Buns of Steel.

Gertner. He started to give himself the nicknames.

Yeah.

And the bow tie over the neck.

Brace.

Looking more lately like rubbish. Well, Mr. Rick Rude, while you are indeed revolting, I am respected, I am renowned. And do you perhaps have any remarks.

What in the hell was that? That, Rick, is Joel Gtner. And the inevitable has indeed happened. I have lost complete control of this television. Indeed, Joe, you lost control of this program a long, long time ago. You just didn't know it. But now that you are complete, completely and utterly hopeless. Even though Brian Lee did manage to sell out, I happen to have it on very good account that there will be a third member of the Triple Threat. And you shall see that shortly.

You can bet that they're looking for revolting Rick Rude. And Rick probably isn't very hard. Hard to find these days. I believe he's hanging.

Out. Joel needs some stridex.

Pads. Pretty gritty watering.

Hole. His head is all.

Stridex.

But don't worry, Rick, if all.

Three of the Triple Threat tattoo T.

The is that you'll be protected because that's where all of the washed up former athletes are these days.

I'm a broken down athlete.

And Joe Gerner has buns of steel. The fact of the matter is I'm the supreme physical specimen and you, Joe Blow, have tons of buns. And it strikes me as funny that you, Shane Douglas, should sit around.

Talking.

He.

Is. Because in order to hang you got to be hungry. And neither you or Shane my man fit the bill. So the fact of the matter is whether or.

Not.

The hang, you gotta be.

Hungry. You want to see extreme, you want to see rude.

Colors? Look at this goof. Oh yeah, I'm on. I'm gonna be funny.

Loser.

Back on. Did you see.

I am the.

Walrus.

Walrus.

I am the.

Walrus.

Mr. Gordon, I got a couple words for you tonight. I took the living legend, so called self proclaimed Terry Funk and I beat his right in the center of the ring. I took Sabu, the crazy man of wrestling and I beat.

His.

Yes. I sent them both back.

To. We're gonna hear this out. This is great.

Okay? I.

Want. This is awesome. You know what it.

Is? Didn't we see this already years.

Ago to prove that I am the franchise. Sher saw it, the whole world saw it. Live professional wrestling as it was meant to be. Ass kicking, take no names, beat the hell out of whoever's in front of you. Terry Funk, I smashed your Knee to.

Oblivion.

Hurry. When I took you with that chair outside the ring, even the crazy man, his people looked and they said, oh, my God. Of an era finally put to rest. Family.

I don't give a. You keep your mouth shut. You keep your mouth shut. You can fire me if you want to. You can take me out of this territory if you want to. But you can't stop the franchise. Someplace, sometime, I will be heavyweight champion. Now, as it goes for you, Mr. Styles and anybody else and all you other sons of sitting out here today, I've had it up to here. I've come to Philadelphia and I've watched pieces of in the audience hold up signs and call me every name in the book. I've seen.

Call me names, say things about my family, say things about Sherry. I've seen people and what do you want? And what do you want?

What's wrong with you? Are you some kind of a fool or what?

Am I some kind of a fool? What are you out.

Here? I love.

This. All I've got to ask you, Mr. Funk, what you were 10 years ago was a legend. What you are today is an old man, a shell of yourself. The legs after tonight certainly aren't what they used to be. Muhammad Ali knows what it's like when the legs go. Look at your face. Take a look in the mirror around you. Ask the media, how's his face look? You've been beat to a pulp now. I've been beat up tonight. Take a look, Philadelphia. Look at his face. Look at my face. Look who's standing tall. Terry Funk, you were a beaten man tonight. I sit there and listen to you call me an old man. I've listened to you ridicule me and, yeah, maybe I've had better.

Days. Damn.

Right. But I don't think that you have any right to go ahead and say that. I came in here, I paid compliments to you. I paid compliments to Sabu. I paid compliments to everybody. Because I think that you're a good athlete and a heck of a guy. The best. But you didn't walk out of there with this thing around your waist. And you know you didn't. Terry Funk, let me tell you something. And you ought to know this after 25 years in this man. Don't call me an old.

Man.

You. I gave you your time. You let me talk. As the franchise of ecw, I've got every right to come out here and say what I want to say. Paying compliments to Shane Douglas, paying compliments to Sabu. Don't pay the bills, the gold pays the bills. Now I want Todd Gordon right here and now to declare me the champion. Because you were dragged out. You were carried out of the arena tonight by your own men. That's not a champion to me. Sabu was carried out by his own men, both of you, at the hands of the franchise. To me that means that I'm the heavyweight champion. No if, ands or buts about it. Mr. Funk, you want this belt so bad. I said earlier that I've drawn a line. I'll tell you something, you made a mistake. Put your finger by calling me an old man. I won't put my finger in your face. I have no intention of doing that. But your biggest mistake was whenever you called me an old man. Because first of all, what is it going to look like whenever this.

Old.

Man.

Whips your butt? And as far as this belt is concerned.

You can have this belt. I'm giving it to you.

I'm giving it to you. Giving it to me? Terry Foster giving me the belt. Isn't that silly? That is so silly. No, no.

Todd. With.

Chain. That's silly and I know that. I'm sorry that wasn't very respectful to you. But I'm telling you, you take that belt. And you know why you can take that belt? Because it's going to be the biggest thrill to me on the.

Belt.

We. Whenever.

I. Whenever I take the thing back from you, that's what's going to give me the biggest elation. Because I'm going to show you that this old man is not as easy to push around as you. What a found out.

Tonight. And the chain.

Perfect. Terry Funk. Don't put my finger on your chest. I understand.

It.

I. You don't have to give me any bel. I won't touch you with my. You don't have to give me a belt, you old piece of gentlemen place. You don't have to give me the belt cuz I'm taking the belt. How's that.

Huh? Throws it right in his.

Head. You piece of.

Oh, oh, oh.

Oh.

Hello.

The.

Best. The brush with.

Gold. That is the brush with gold for real.

Here comes my.

Girl.

I'll take a brush with great from a brush with greatness with.

Her.

Yeah.

I guess she's got the.

Attitude.

Attitude.

I don't want to be perfect strangers with.

Her.

No, I don't want to be a perfect stranger.

That's the key.

Man. You're not pushing the envelope anymore. You just licked it and sealed.

It.

All.

Yours. I wish it.

Was.

Good.

Lord.

Is are in for a long.

Night. He keeps messing with Bigelow and they're gonna have to be a quadruple.

Threat.

All right. She got those high heels from some.

Casino.

Cut.

The. It's funny to hear Rick Ruda on.

Commentary. It.

Is.

Because he's at our level.

Oh, yeah. I wanna bang that type thing.

All right, so let's take a listen to this. Yeah.

About.

You might learn something.

You're looking at a thoroughbred in the sport of professional wrestling. Does think he's Mr. Ed.

With the Bison.

Head.

Hey, he's the original Triple H. I don't care.

Triple H just stole Jane Douglas character. Bottom.

Line. Was that what people.

Say? That's what I.

Say. And I can see.

It. Yeah, I can.

Too.

Because Shane Douglas was the one guy that did not bring in. When Eddie Guerrero came in, like, that whole crew, right? Franchise, they said Shane Douglas. It's because Triple H was in charge.

In a way at the time. Nope. I want to steal his gimmick.

I'm the franchise.

On the game.

I'm gonna talk like Shane Douglas.

That's what he did. Dude. Jv, Is that Triple H talking right now? Is that what it sounds like?

I. Hey, dude, I see it. I never noticed it before. Now that you say it, I think you nailed it, to be.

Honest. That's.

It.

Then you think like, the game, the franchise, I don't.

Know. Right, Exactly.

Just ripped off Shane Douglas. And it goes back to him being Dean Douglas when the.

Whole crew hated him. The click.

The Click is what got him out.

Like, he got over by Shawn Michaels and triple H and 1, 2.

3.

Kid.

He got bounced out and that's why he went back to ecw.

And then Triple H, like, oh, I'm gonna steal this guy's gimmick and make it a big thing. That's what happen.

Now he's run the whole business.

Not that Triple H has done a good job, but, man, Shane Douglas.

Is.

Good.

No, he really.

Is.

Oh, what's this? What's this promo here?

Chapter two. All right, so Chapter two is. Was that basically right? Is that like the recap of what happened after the pay per.

View? It's. I liken it to what? WWE. Well, WWF @ the time used to. I think they only did it one or two years. But the. The WrestleMania revenge tour, where it's like, now you getting to see, you know, the rematch for the world title. You might see for the tag titles.

Like, right there, you can see it's the four. The four guys that were Involved in the.

Main.

Event. Yep. You know the dream partner match they throw? It's about an ECW World Tag title defense. So it's essentially just kind of the same thing you saw on the Pay per View, but they're building in in not quite a super card, but it's like a.

Monthly.

Show. Yeah.

Balls in his leather.

Daddy gimmick.

Oh, yeah, he loves that. Oh.

Big time.

Oh my. Ball bouncing.

We played that in the last episode. Balls bouncing and.

Cuz he's got the biggest balls.

Well, I'd rather have my balls bounce it in Francine's hands. That would be nice.

Ah, Shane Douglas. Hey, he's my favorite. I can't. I can't.

Quit him. That is.

Your boy. He's my boy. JV.

Knows that.

Somebody smoking in.

The background. Yeah, that's a lot.

Of smoke. Put that.

Cigarette out. Yeah, yeah, that was. That was a lot of smoke.

You're right.

Douglas making it very simple.

For Mahoney.

Are they smoking like a pipe.

Or something?

It's funny, I think, like, I love Shane Douglas, obviously, and just. But what I love even more about him is that when I listen to podcast that he's been on and like his own solo podcast, like he'll get into just like talking about being a teacher, it's like, ah, yeah.

Like me.

Referee Jeff Jones coming down.

The ringside.

So I love the aspect of it.

Jeff jones.

And Balls.

Still got Balls Mahoney going on here.

Balls Mahoneys up Shane's ass.

Santa Claus.

Jv, you remember.

Santa Claus?

Santa Claus. Santa Claus was the. The fake Santa Claus. Late 95 and balls.

Mahoney was.

Oh, yeah, yeah, I know what.

You'Re saying. In his lungs.

That's.

It. Falls. Take him down to the mat. Use your weight as.

An advantage. Very nice chant going on by the crowd.

They clearly want to inform Francine about her.

Test results. I didn't really think about it until now. Like if.

If Vince McMahon or WWF, like Balls Mahoney or Santa Claus. At the time, he possibly could have been a Mankind character instead of having.

Mick Foley. Yeah, yeah, I can.

See it. That's a.

Fair take.

Yeah, let's have him do this.

That's a stretch. I get it.

I know. Yeah. It is a big what if? But it. I could see it. I could see it being something that they.

Might consider.

Because if they thought, oh, he can be Santa Claus and this guy is Mankind, like.

I could see them being one in.

The.

Same. Right.

Not to me, but in their mind, like, like his mind, like oh yeah, they're both 5, 2, 260 pound guys, all the same. Whatever. It could be this, he could be that.

Type.

Of thing. I.

Get it.

Oh man, look at this match going.

On here. There's no reason why Shane thugs gets kick out of whatever the.

That is. Oh, that's a good point. I was, I was looking at it like yeah, this match is pretty solid sound. But jv, you're right. There's no reason why Shane Douglas can't get out of this.

Spot, right? Yeah. What the your.

Genes, bro. Shane Douglas.

Is asking.

You know.

Shane Douglas is struggling against.

Balls Mahoney. Yeah. On this.

Weak.

Weak.

Stomach.

All of a sudden. Balls Mahoney's a submission specialist. You have to worry when he has you in a.

Wrist lock. Come on.

I know I. I know you said weak ass hold but I thought was a.

Weak asshole. Yeah, he's got that.

Too probably.

I just want to take full advantage of whatever nonsense I can make up.

Goal won't be going home with.

Balls tonight.

All right.

Hey, if Francine's the winner, then where the is she? Where the is.

She.

Bro? Bro. Hey bros. Mahoney is a tremendously.

Powerful man.

Oh, so jv, I did send that to you. I didn't realize.

Whenever you get to your phone, take a look, they're going to be like. Yeah, they're going to be like ah.

Whatever the.

Oh, that was a nice.

Power slam.

Yeah. Good midsection of flip toss. Oh, pulse.

I.

Am.

It's. Come on.

Shane. The.

Reverse.

Atomic drop.

That was.

Good balls. That was a high point.

Ball shot, nut shot, pin shot. Come on.

Scribbles or no wobbles, you got no weebles, you got no wobbles. Divi. Explain that. What's.

Full.

Boss? Balls. Balls from.

What.

Though?

Marty. Major League 2. Major.

League 2. Marty would say it all the time. I know it's from Major League 2.

Say that all.

The time.

Marty is like the elusive character in everything we.

Do. Yeah. He's side questing.

Through life.

People like, what do you mean? Oh, he's a.

Real person.

He's not just a fictional character you made up so you.

Can tell. Talk about.

Right Real. If you met him, you.

Find out. Yeah. You'd be like, yeah, this guy's real. In a.

Good way. Yeah, yeah. It be awesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He adds.

To.

Everything. So. And I beat him on.

The square. Beat him on.

The square. Yo, there a lot of so called superstars who let out a collective sigh.

Of relief. Like just wrestling for instance. Like if one of Them me and my wife had something to do and like, oh, we're going to clean the yard. And we asked Marty to come over. Like he make it even better. Like. Like that's the kind of guy.

He.

Is. Like.

He'S just.

The man.

Oh, nice snap Mare.

By shame. Now that's a hold. He's gonna buy the.

Fold head. Like you could snap his neck like.

Crazy crank. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. But though this is balls Mahoney versus Shane. Like, what are.

We doing? Trying to.

Push balls.

We talked about that last time too. Like, pushing balls. We the balls. We got the biggest balls of them all. Music.

The balls. K. Look at.

The buzz. Where's your.

Balls, bro?

I don't know if I never seen the balls.

Oh.

Big balls. One of.

His ass.

Oh, one.

Two.

Three. No. Oh, he.

Almost got. What? How far? About what the.

Your time. What are you.

Talking about? What's.

Your.

Name? Behind. I'm.

52. 33. Of course you are. Brick. What are you.

At 52?

46, 47. We're on the same page. How the do you end up eight.

Seconds behind? I'm five seconds beyond. What the.

I don't.

Know, man. That was a nice belly to belly.

There, jv. That's a nice.

Belly belly. Here comes.

The belly. Hey, I saw it.

You guys going to disregard me.

Over here.

Oh, what's balls doing dirty to beat balls Mahoney. This about.

To happen. Yeah, right. Exactly.

Jv. Wow. What.

Is that?

Super kick.

Cover him.

Now he's got.

The chair. This is nasty.

Oh, no. Get out of the way.

Baby girls. Mahoney is wearing like, jean style, like modern day girls.

I'm gonna cut these jeans in half. Oh, there's.

My girl.

That's.

A nice. That was a.

Good sell. That was.

Really.

Good. Boom.

Oh, oh. Oh. That's the cell you're talking about. I.

Missed it. Bam.

Bam. Balls. Mahoney.

I want a.

T shirt.

T.

Shirt mafia. Hey, big, big spot here coming up. Yeah, what a good dude.

What you going to do?

Hey, turn on you.

I'll stop you.

My.

Reebok. Wow. This is.

Like.

Turning.

Oh.

My God. Turn.

On.

B.

From asbury park.

And chris candino for central park. Whatever the he's from. Yeah.

What the going.

On here? Why.

Is this.

Yeah, the episode's over. All right, well, jb, I love how you wrap.

That.

Up.

What? I love how you wrapped that last episode up. That.

Was fun. What was.

This episode? The episode we.

Just watched. Oh, what have you wrap.

It up? Oh, you just kind of Flipped the whole NBO thing into being a thing.

The. The triple.

Threat.

Is. Oh.

Baby. It was the.

Hulk.

Hogan. Yeah.

And that was that.

Big twist. Balls Mahoney.

I think the big twist was Balls Mahoney putting up such.

A fight. Yeah, well, balls will hold. He's been kicking ass for a.

Couple weeks. Yeah, they're definitely pushing him like.

You.

Said. Yeah. So what happens to him.

Now? Irrelevancy? I don't know. Yeah, probably. Well, he. Yeah, he teams up with.

Somebody.

Right. Yeah.

I do know that. We do have some good matches coming up. And Louis. Louis Cole is back on the scene. He's taking on Tommy Dreamer. And then there's a really good match that I'm looking forward to. It's Chris Candino Taz taking on Rob Van Dam and Saboo.

That's coming up in the next hour. And that's from chapter two. Why the. Is it called.

Chapter two?

I'm thinking because after.

Yeah, they reached pay per view. So now this is the new them turning onto a new chapter, like the pay per view era.

Ecw.

Right. Anyway, all right, so we're gonna continue on with that, but we're gonna take a little break, and.

We'Re supposed to have break song. I don't know what the it is, but you'll.

Hear it. And then in the box.

For probably the.

20Th time.

Like, we play that yet. Just it just play man in the box. I don't think we played that.

One yet. Shut the uphead.

Ah, we did play this one. No, we're gonna play dead black.

Hair.

Again. No.

Not again.

All right, we're gonna take a little break, and we'll be.

Right back.

Is on fire with passion and love the neighbors complain about the noises above but she only comes when she's on top.

My therapist said not to see you no more she said you're like a disease without any cure she said I'm tore sense that I'm becoming a.

Pretty.

Caught your hand side until slammed your fingers in the door Bl.

Kitchen.

Knives obscure.

Dress me up women's clothes messed around with gender roles line my eyes and call me pretty?

You.

Got a good house or you move next door? I locked you out you cut a hole in the wall I find you sleeping next to me I thought I was alone you're driving me crazy when are you.

Coming?

Sa.

All right, we're back now for the second half of this episode of the extreme ECW live cast. And we are covering now May 13, 1997. And this is ECW hardcore TV episode 212. And if you're watching this on the Peacock, it's season five, episode 20. And if you're watching it somewhere else or looking things up, it's May 15, 1997. But whatever the. We're going with May 13, 1997. I'm Mike Crew along with JV and Rick BB and we're back here after this long break and whatever the you just listened to, so. So let's get to it. It's matches from chapter two.

Chapter.

Two. Rick. Rick. I don't even want to explain.

This. Rick. What the Chapter two, Chapter two, it's. It's not really a super show. It's just kind of.

Yeah, they show they did at the arena and it's after the pay per view. It might have been the first arena show they did after the pay per view because you figure right on a month almost, you know, after.

Barely Legal.

Exactly, that's what happened. So, yeah, so we're gonna watch this episode. It's 55 minutes, 20 seconds and it's chapter two. And hey, Rick Rude's back in the house. He's apparently now a commentator with Joey Styles. And Joey never needed anybody to be up his. But Rick Rude is there the give him that.

And we're gonna get a couple of matches here. Good, good matches here. We're gonna get Lubus goalie against Tommy Dreamer and then a great match. I've watched this match before. It's awesome. And I'm looking forward to watching with you guys. It's Chris Candido and Taz versus Rob Van Dam and Sabu. Okay, so that's gonna be some good. So let's stop around and let's get right to it.

Yeah. Ain't nothing left to it but to do it. So I'll give a countdown, a come down. Yeah, come down. That's all I'm thinking about.

Three down to one and say play. When I say play. Click play. Three, two, one, light.

All right, we'll get some coverage from the previous episode.

Shane Douglas cannot just avoid these.

Pit.

Bulls. No. Yeah, they're.

On him.

These guys. They're on them.

They're.

Rabid. Yep.

Big.

Right hands.

And I do have to say, after all these years of just bitching at Pitbull number one, he's the best one.

Pitbull number one is way greater than Anthony Durante.

My opinion. Oh, that was a nice.

Power bomb. Yeah. Oh, and this. All right, this is the. The.

Big turn.

Bam, bam. JV's big.

NWO turn. Bam, bam.

Bam, bam. Oh, it's the. What.

Was that? What.

Is that? And Paul Bomb.

Just because you're power bombing a girl or.

Titties Papa. Yeah, he's sniffing her ass. Maybe. I.

Don'T know. You.

Know what?

Power Bombados.

Like it.

Rick.

Knows Bombados. I.

Do, yeah. Rick, give us a little.

Back.

Back. Sorry. On Barbados Quick. Just to prove how much.

You know. See, I don't. I don't remember her name, but one of your teachers had a very, very.

Nice Bombados. Yeah, that's right.

Ms. Bra. There.

You go. Story. When we would remember when we were in middle.

School, right? Yeah, you guys were like in like seventh grade.

Or something. Isn't that crazy?

Yep, that's how we are. Crazy.

Massachusetts boys.

Oh, can we say we.

Love titties, but who doesn't Titties and.

Ass, boy.

Hi. Joey Styles in.

The house.

My name is Joey Styles and I'm in.

The house. Oh, oh. Jb, break it down.

Wrestling.

And I'm gonna come here in the place to be.

Jb, you almost nailed it with that.

All right. Rick, do you know. I mean, we all know this song, but is there a name for the song? I never even looked.

Into it.

One of the. I don't know if it's this one, but one of the songs that he's used, it's just called.

The.

Stripper. Really? Yeah. So this might be. Might be. Seems like version of it.

Or whatever. It would be like a song that's just. What do they call it when it's just available to.

Use free. Like public domain or.

Public.

Domain. Right.

Copyright free. Right. Wouldn't that song be in.

That area?

It's possible.

Macho man.

Song, right? Like, yeah, yeah. It's in the circumstance.

Should be.

What did you say?

Francine's restaurant?

Yeah. Pretty. I'll leave that. That box. Anything?

Jimmy's just laughing at the fact that.

I left.

No, I just took a while.

To register.

Because I did give Francine a really.

Big tip.

Yeah.

Rick R. Would have been a great character in the early 2000s as a.

Porn.

Guy. Yeah. Like Bang Bus or something.

Come.

Oh, it's great to hear though. Bottom. Who knows whether the it's true or not, but he was apparently, like, loyal and did.

Nothing wrong.

Oh, right. As a. As a father.

And husband.

Rick Rude.

Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. For all the sleaze that he talks, he apparently was a real good, loyal dude. He wasn't cheating on his wife.

Or anything.

That's with all the. All the wrestler says, like.

He was. Yeah.

That'S awesome.

All right. He was just acting.

That's cool. It was just.

A character.

Because you think these guys are.

Being real.

Did a.

Good.

Job. Yeah.

He also was not a dude you wanted to.

With, Right? This.

Is.

Badass. Yeah.

I mean, that's gonna be part of it, right? Like, you can be like who you want to be if.

You'Re badass.

Oh, absolutely. Like, no, I'm not gonna do this because I'm not a. And I'll do whatever I want.

People gonna respect me.

But weak people will be like, oh, I gotta do this.

I just gotta get respectful people.

Yeah. When you respect yourself, you get respect.

All the way live.

Crossing the line again.

This is like. Doesn't this sound like Wayne's World? I. I feel like I.

Said this feels like B with the B. Yeah, it.

Sounds like. Yeah, yeah.

It does. Way before B with the.

Bachrams out. But doesn't it sound like a couple of years? You know, you.

Are heartbreaker. No, I think it sounds like BA with.

The bar. Well, I know you.

Said that. It does not sound like that other one.

To me.

Okay, fine.

You don't know who.

I.

Am. Yeah. That voice is.

Just so. Yeah, nobody has that voice.

We're gonna have the pit bulls take on Shane Douglas and Candido. I'm gonna grab this girl's ass.

He grabbed our ass and everything's cool. Spanking it. Spanking it. Look at.

That Ash. Damn, he is laying.

Those in. Yeah, those are crossing the line again.

I'm sick of this guy. Well.

Well, well. Once again, it is I, the quintessential.

Stud muffin.

I'm laying out on this.

Rick. You can cover what he says.

After, please.

Rancid run of the mill Rick Rude.

The truth might be strange. Stranger.

Than fiction.

Fat boy.

The quintessential stud muffin. Joel.

Finger licking.

Good girl.

General Taz finally collided with Sabu. Sabu went head first to a table, to the concrete. Injured his neck. Taz capitalized locked on the Taz mission for cock to ha Jamaica. He won the matchup and afterwards extended his hand to Sabu, only to be blindsided by Sabu's on again, off again tag team partner, Rob Van Dam. Well, tonight, as part of our two main events here on television, you're going to see a dream partner tag.

Team.

Match. Yes. Sabu and Taz in the same ring. Sabu was chosen by Van Damme. Taz was chosen by Chris Candido.

That's right.

Fredo Candido. Frito can do Want the.

Beetle Bandido. What the what?

Just Happened. Did he have.

A stroke.

On the Beatle with.

The Beetle?

It all started with the.

Hand.

Gesture. This. This silly little.

Hand gesture. And I guess l. Friends.

And in other places, Tommy Dreamer didn't want to see it. Told Lou to knock it off. In fact, told Louie, you do it again, I'm going to break your hand. Lou didn't take Tommy too seriously. Made that hand.

Signal again. Louis P. Would have had a better role in.

This company.

Their opponent.

We got to go. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Notice they. They've kept the. The entrance way different. They don't have that curtain with the plants anymore. They have an actual, like, entrance way.

They had it at the pay per view too. I don't think we mentioned it, though.

Louie openly mocking.

Tommy, right? Yeah. And that's why he's wearing.

That.

Outfit. Yep.

Trying to on him.

Oh. Oh, we get some Tommy.

Dreamer.

With some.

Actual Tommy dream music.

Man in.

The box. Man in.

The box. Man in the. Man in the.

F box.

The F box. It's the best.

Word. Yep.

That was Davy laughs But.

Have we played on the.

Box yet?

Are you making fun.

Of me?

I.

Said that. I know, but that's something I would have said. We played this yet?

Yeah, we definitely played man in the Box probably three times.

By now. Look how slow and seductive.

She looks. Oh.

My God. I love. I love how she folds her hands behind her as she kind of just sort of saunters to the ring. It's so hot. I don't know what it is. It's.

Just that. Oh, look at those shots.

Too. Like. Yeah. I'm.

Not.

Innocent. No. Like, you look at her outfit like, that is like, becoming in.

Style again. Yes. Yes, it.

Is. Yep. That's.

That's hot.

It's awesome.

I want to be in that box. Okay.

I can be the man in the box. There's no problem with that. I'm the man eating the box. No.

There's nothing wrong.

With that.

But yeah. Say after that you won't be eating any fries after the. The box. Somebody else will be eating those fries.

The fries. The fries. Oh, yeah, yeah, the fries. And we'll be in.

The fries. No, because you had.

The box. Yeah.

And the.

Chicken.

Nuggets. It. And the chicken nuggets too. Yeah. Can't forget the chicken nuggets.

That was. He's bleeding already.

What the. Yeah. What.

The. Yeah. What's going.

On here? The best.

Punches ever. No kidding.

Like with Sandman, you expect him to be bleeding before the match starts, but with.

Tommy, no. Yeah. Are they just putting over Spicoli's cast.

Yeah. Yeah.

I.

Love.

Spicoli. Yeah.

And I feel like the past couple episodes when he's had matches, but totally.

Giving.

Him props. Oh, yeah. Those are highlights of.

The episode. But I do like that he is doing this. I'm gonna. With Tommy. And where's for.

His clothes?

Oh, yeah. Which.

Is cool.

It's kind of a psychological warfare.

Type thing. Yeah.

Why is there so much space around.

Ringside here?

That is an.

Excellent question.

Are you.

Thinking that?

See, I didn't think about it until you just pointed it out, but, yeah, that's. That seems like it's a lot more space than they.

Normally have. Right. It's like it's a.

WWF show. Yeah.

But is it like that all around the ring, or is it just that.

One side? I don't know yet.

It might just be that.

One side. Yeah. Yeah. It looks like the rest of them are. Are normal.

What, up on.

His.

Dick.

Up.

He punched him in the.

Ding Ding.

He punched them in the.

Ding Ding. It kicked him in the Ding Ding. He was injured. Who was in.

The band? Oh, I saw that with your team name. I meant to.

Say something. Do you.

Remember that? Yeah.

Of course. That's a throwback.

Man. Yeah. That was your team.

Name, too. And it's the commercial back in the old day.

Yeah. Yeah. Same kid, too. Get the same.

Profile picture.

You know what.

He did?

He was injured. Injured.

Love.

That kid.

Pulling Spicoli's.

Pants off.

Literally.

My mama said.

All right, is this gonna be a battle or what? Because it looks like it's just. We're gonna around. I'm gonna grab you every once in a while, and that's it. Like, want to be hardcore. To.

Be hardcore. If not, I mean, he did bleed right from.

The beginning. I know that was it. But now it's just like, oh, let me toss.

You around.

Yeah, yeah. But nothing. Nothing's going on.

That's cool. Again, isn't Tommy considered a. And correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't he considered, like, limited talent?

Like, he's not gonna. He doesn't have, like, an expansive mood set moveset. Oh, like he wasn't.

Doing crazy. No, no.

He'S crazy. Other guys.

You know. Yeah. Him being crazy is doing.

A DDT. Yeah. Whereas, like, Sav is like.

640 off.

A guardrail. Well, we've seen enough Sabu that I don't even think he qualifies as being.

Good, either. But risk. The risks.

He takes. Yeah.

Risks. Okay.

Yeah. Tommy's not doing crazy high.

Flying stuff. Well.

I paused and my point was like oh, sorry. Yeah. Sabu doing risk like the out of here, right? He's not risking. He's. He's just up all the time. Like it's not calculated. It's not smart.

Rob Van Dam is taking risk. You know, he's doing moves that count and matter. Oh, yeah, yeah. Sabu is not on the level of rvd.

And in this case, Tommy right here.

High cross body. Get the out of it. High cross body. Me doing a high cross body. The out of here.

High cross body. Just diving off.

Get the out of here. Making making Luis Macaulay look like a jack off. Because this guy actually wrestled real wrestlers and Tommy Dreamer was never a.

Real wrestler.

Northern.

Lights suplex.

Yeah, that's one of the great moves of Swacola.

Oh, that's. That's Tommy's big move. Russell.

Leg.

Sweep. Yep. The out of here. All right. So anyway, there.

We go. Oh.

Arn Anderson's still the best.

One though. Yes, of course.

Oh, there's Recruit again. Finally hear him had something to say.

Oh, that's good. It's a Gary kick. Get the out of here.

He's the man in the box. Fine, he can eat the box.

Who wants to be in Buell's box? Me.

Hey, dude, back in the day I didn't think she was.

That hot.

No, you're more of a Francine guy. Yeah, I. I mean that's.

That's agreeable. Francine's still up. Not to me, but below. I don't know, I thought she was kind of like white trash.

But now I'm like, yeah, she's classy. Yeah, she. She's.

Got.

The.

Goods.

She takes all those.

Bumps too. That.

Was gorgeous.

I can't believe he.

Did it. He says, I love some Coley too. And.

Ah, yeah.

Like that was. That was a beautiful. He protected her.

Real well. Yeah, no, well, he's.

A pro. No.

I know. He's so good.

That's why I wish.

He was.

Annoying ass.

Kids screaming.

Hey, how about you didn't suck so much in that match and you could.

Protect your. They did a good job selling the severity of.

That though. Yeah, no, that's true.

So after that the just joke will get his next snap.

Remember all this we watched years ago? God. Stein is.

In.

93.

Who? Rick, I don't know if you saw jb. I don't know if you saw it, but somebody posted. Who was it, Rick? Somebody said. Oh, I laughed out loud. When.

How did you guys do it.

Before Rick.

Oh, yeah.

What.

Was that?

You said something to JV about like. Like, how did. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you said something. What did we do? What did we do about it? And I. And JV goes, well, we probably didn't do very well or something.

Like that. No, we probably sucked.

Or something. Yeah, yeah, I remember.

That. Yeah. But somebody commented on it, right? I can't remember how it came up. Yeah.

They left because you're like, ah, we. We sucked.

So. Yeah, that's why Rick's here. He's down here on the spot.

He's here to give us the. The info.

It is funny, though, jv, like, how do we do this without Rick before, like, it's such a natural progression to have Rick with us.

Doing this. You.

Dished out. It was.

Opportune.

Time. Yeah. If Tommy Dreamer doesn't take it upon himself to kick.

Your fat. Yeah, because. And it's not like you guys were doing this like you do. Bottom line, cast where you're actually reviewing, you know, a month or whatever, you just. This has always been a live.

Watch, so.

All right. I guess you guys just. You guys just. On everything, I guess. Especially 93.

You know.

Yeah, I'm.

A hater. No, I don't think you were ever. I don't think we hated.

Anything, really. I just like. I like. I like.

Throwing shade. There.

You go. It's funny to.

Me. Yeah. No, I know.

But I think we're always kind of like.

I don't.

Know, like.

Hulk.

Hogan.

Nuts. Wow.

Nuts. What? What did he.

Say? Banging. He said Hulk Hogan's.

What the. Did he say something.

That someone. I was going to say his balls are on Bischoff's chin.

Or something. That's what.

It was. Hanging a banging. Something like that.

Hung in the bunging.

All right, so we got this triple threat FBI here. What's going on here, Rick? What's going on in this promo?

It's wild. Just. They're showing just random clips.

Pg 13.

I'm looking forward to the big match.

Coming.

Up. Yeah.

Actually, message, Rick. Earlier, I was like, big match coming up.

Chris Candido and Taz.

Teaming up to.

My favorites.

Oh, Stevie Richards with the.

Virgil mask. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

All right, let's take a listen to this.

Can we see a little bit of titty.

Shot, please?

Teddies, anyone?

Okay, yeah.

I'll figure.

That out.

Thank heaven we got that camera out of the locker room. Respect.

The privacy. Thank heaven. Yeah, thanks. Thank heaven that we got the camera out.

Of there.

Thank God. God forbid we see.

More Titties. Yeah, Come on. Maybe even an.

Ass shot. Rick Rude's like the. Am I doing here, pal?

Too tall to be in.

The shot. Yeah. My head keeps going out of frame.

His shoulders are so wide too. He can't really fit in.

The frame.

Here we go. Davey's best friend here.

This is a dude like we all went to high.

School with.

He thought he was super, super suave and.

Was not.

If. If we knew he liked wrestling, we'd be cool with him, but we didn't know. So.

Yeah, from down under, it's kind of like Will.

Flanigan. Davy.

Yeah. Oh.

My God. Yeah, it is.

Wolf Lan would have been this guy.

Wolf Lanigan was the. He was a couple years older than us in high school. He was the mayor of.

Our town.

For real or you just mean it like for real. Nobody.

Knew. Okay. Yeah, like the.

Actual mayor. Gotcha. I know like we talk about grandfather was the mayor, but he wasn't really the mayor of anything. It's just he knew everybody, you know, he was always talking to people.

Yeah, yeah.

He's.

To trying.

He was actually legit.

The mayor. He was the mayor, but he could have been this character.

That'S kind of like what.

He was. Was that character kind of a little bit of a.

Slime ball.

I don't want to say.

Too.

Much. Yeah.

I don't mind the guy. He's all right. Yeah, yeah.

Stick them up. What is this? This is a house of.

Pain, right? Sounds like house of pain. Fun loving, criminal. It's got to be.

That.

Somebody. Look.

It.

Up. Yeah. We're not gonna play it though, right?

Fun, love and criminal ECW returns to Boston.

Oh, it's. It's the mayor.

Yeah, his weed spot. Hey, Mayor Flanagan, though, he still loves wrestling, so he had.

The.

Godfather. Yeah. At his weed spot that he.

Opened.

Up. Nice. Just recently.

Hey, and I'm glad Will.

Is all cool. And the other. The other is in.

Jail.

Still. Yeah.

Longer so.

Dangerously Haman. What history we have with mayors in forever.

People in prison.

Kids.

In prison. Cellular phone with the 3.

Inch antenna.

Has a broken neck and a broken back.

Broken cock.

Shane Douglas has told me that I have.

The right. I don't like how Shane Douglas is not getting any push. He's like taking.

Losses here. Right.

But yet he's the TV.

Champion, right? He's the TV champ, which is fine. But yeah, he's taking losses and I mean, I guess pressure's on him. Oh, here we go.

It's turning.

You off?

Not in.

The least. This.

Is Bad.

He went on, like, the Buddy Rose Diet. Like, he gained.

Weight. Quick. Buddy Rose.

Blow.

Away. Yeah. What's this bloody Buddy.

Rose Diet?

You've never seen that. You've never seen that.

Video? Jv. I don't.

Think so. They. They did, like, a fake commercial. And I don't know, was it the late.

80S? PR.

Yeah, mid-80s. The mid-80s. And it was the buddy.

Oh, yeah. Like 88, I guess.

Yeah, yeah. And it was the Buddy Rose Blow Away Diet. And literally, it's him sitting in a folding chair. He pours this powder on himself, and then. And then there's a fan that blows it away. And he. He's still fat. I mean, that's the.

Whole commercial.

That's funny. But, yeah, Buddy Rose.

It was. Yeah. Playboy. Buddy Rose, he is. Act like Ric Flair. But he was fat.

Version. Yeah. Wasn't he like Ric Flair and Dusty Rhodes.

In one. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Exactly. Right. You know, and he used to be. He used to be a little more in shape, but by 1988, quite.

Quite tubby. Well, that became the.

Whole gimmick. Is.

That right?

Right, right.

Can't wait.

Like Adrian Adonis.

Kind of. Right? Yeah. Adrian Adonis just put on weight. I was just like, go yourself. Like, you're not gonna push me. Then you.

And then they ended up pushing.

Him.

Anyway. Right. That's how good he is.

That was a great match, Lionheart.

Yeah. Now the hyping. Bam Bam versus Bam Bam. But that wasn't good.

Oh, Brick.

The night kimono Wanalea danced atop the ECW Arena. See, I beat Joey.

Do it.

This tape was on.

Sale forever. It really was.

Like. Like I said, I swear, I remember sleeping over my buddy's house in, like, 99. And they still were running.

That game of sabu.

And mister.

How.

Do you like those pink.

Pulsating lips?

All right, so we got fan cam coverage here, I guess. Oh, no. Now we're switching.

All right, so Chris Gando had back and backed. That was song, right? Yeah.

Chris Candido should have a song like.

Don't. With my girl.

Right? Absolutely.

Back.

In black. Back.

In black. My girl's a.

I bet. You know.

And I already talked about all that. You don't know because.

Not.

On. Here.

We.

Go.

Oh. So earlier tonight.

I was hanging out with my kids, and we're in the car and no sleep till Brooklyn comes on.

The.

Radio. Nice. My kid was losing his mind. I'm like, you like this song? He goes, yeah. And I'm like, awesome. All right. My kid likes the Beastie Boys love it. I mean, he's 8, so the words aren't necessarily appropriate, but at least he likes.

The music.

Hell, yeah. My manager is crazy. He always.

Smokes dust. He's got his own room.

In the back of the back of the dust.

Hey, they find something they like.

That'S cool.

Oh, yeah.

I had a couple kids.

In my. I'm refilling.

Real quick. Be.

Right back.

Real quick.

All right. Before.

This starts. Yeah, go.

For it.

Have a couple girls in my class, and they're.

Into.

Weezer. Nice. And they had Wheezer shirts on. It's like, oh, you like looser. And it was. I knew it was a blue album. It's like, oh, blue album. Like, ah. And the fact that I knew that made me so cool.

To them. Yeah. Even though you were their age, listening to.

Weezer, right? No. Oh, how do you know that? Oh, I was like, what do you like?

What do you like? Like asking me, like, if I.

Really know. Yeah, you start naming.

Deep cuts. Right. Like in.

The garage. Right. It's not just like, I like.

Buddy Holly. Yeah, well, I told him Buddy Holly.

Of course. Yeah. You.

Have others.

Yeah.

But. Yeah.

And I asked him, hey, check.

Out Pinkerton.

That's.

Your album.

Hey, how do you.

Know that? You told me before we had a discussion.

About Weezer. I know, I know.

I.

Know. Yeah. You got a good memory, man.

Better than me. Yeah, everyone says I have a good memory. You got a.

Better one? Yeah.

It'S. It's very. I don't know, say. I don't want to say hit or miss, but it's weird how I'll remember like that kind of. And I'll remember, you know, wrestling facts. But I couldn't tell you what I had for. For breakfast yesterday.

You know? Yeah, yeah, I'll.

Say. Why? Yeah.

Deep.

Memory. Yeah.

Yeah. JV knows. My memory is crazy, too. Like, I was just saying that Rick remembered something like, oh, how do you remember?

They're all the same way.

All right, so what are we gonna have going on there? Oh, outside action here. Chris Candido and Sabu. Oh, God, I'm glad. Here. Chris Candido's beating the out of stupid ass Sabu.

No gimmicks.

Is that the first time we.

Hear that? Symbols, I think. Yin yang popular again, are they? No. Will they.

Ever be? Oh, Ying.

Gang symbol. I.

Don'T know. I don't know the context of why it would be.

Cool again.

Yeah.

Either. I.

I feel like. I feel like somebody would. Would cancel people wearing yin yangs because they'd say it's cultural appropriation.

Or something.

No reason why it shouldn't be popular because it's good message.

Like.

You'Re actually. You're actually stealing Asian.

Valor, right?

Stolen.

Chinese valor.

It's like, no. Can we just, like, accept other cultures?

The fact that yin yangs represent balance.

Anyway. Anyway, let me watch.

Chris Candido.

Taz, you want him. He flips.

Him off. Taz is too fucking short. He.

Can'T even.

Yeah, just.

Like a. He wants to get tagged in. He's standing on a second rope like a.

Little kid.

Yeah. Whenever he stands on the second rope, it doesn't.

Help him. Yeah. Come.

On, Taz.

That was a.

Nice clothesline.

That was a.

Miss. Cool. Yeah, well, it was crisp and Candido sold it.

Really well. Yeah, Candida sold it well. Sabu.

Sucked. Sorry. No.

It'S a. It's.

My opinion. Yeah, exactly. I feel like. And this is my opinion, I feel.

Like Sabu. Oh, that was a mess.

Again.

That's Candido. Candido. Yeah.

But no, I was gonna say, I feel like when Sabu tries to just keep things basic, like, he's decent about it, you know, like when he tried to. When he tries to get too convoluted with the. The spots, and that's when he up. But when it's like, oh, let me just do like a. A basic headlock takedown or a clothesline or something, he does it fairly well.

His core stuff is. Is on point. But when he starts doing this kind of shit.

You know. I know. And I. I think we've all agreed on that. Yeah, he's a good wrestler. It's just that when he does too much, he just sucks. Like, see, he's gonna up like that. Well, that was. That.

Was.

Amazed. Yeah. You know what it's like. It's like shitty parkour. That's what his moves start.

Looking like.

Shitty.

Parkour. That.

That's interesting. Yeah, like when he just jumped over the thing, it's like, well, if I try to.

Do parkour.

Well, in that case, he was probably supposed to.

Miss.

That. Right.

And I think in this match, like, the way this match is set up, he's probably limited to what is he gonna do anyway?

We're not going to see a lot of stupid from him, but we have seen a lot of stupid.

From.

Sabo. Yeah.

And we. We covered it all. It's like, yeah, Sabu was the big popular person that was on. All the magazine covers are in. In the infolds and it was Sabo doing a dive. And like, because nobody was doing that.

He was the one that was doing it.

Well, he sucked most of the time doing it when you rewatch it. But it looked cool at.

The time. Oh.

For sure. But now that.

Somebody'S better. Yeah. The problem is there's too many people doing it even better than that today. So we're watching it in retro. It's like, yeah.

That sucks. I know. But I wouldn't say we're trying to compare today to then. I'm just.

Saying, like. I know you're saying, like, subconsciously though, we see that and we're like, that sucks.

But pretty much making the point you just said about it was cool then because no one was doing it. You know, it's like when the first guy dunked. That sucked. No, now you watch people dunk today and it's like, yeah, it's way better. So if we were to watch that dunk, like, ah, this sucks.

Still cool. Yeah, no, no, I get what you're saying, but I. I wasn't trying to say like, we. We think we know better because what we've seen, I'm just saying, like, what we watch, like, as we watched it, that kind of sucked.

In the time. Like we were watching it.

Yeah, but we like comparison. No, like, in comparison to like, somebody like Ravi Dam coming up. Oh, he does it better.

Like, not comparing it to today, but like, oh, that sucked because there's somebody else that's doing it better at the same time. Or like, Sabu sucked so many times, flopping and like, that was annoying.

That's all. I mean.

Like, even right here, Sabu doesn't know what the he's doing.

Know what he's doing. So he grabs the chair.

Throws it. That was.

Cool, though.

See, he's gonna up here.

N. No. Well.

N. He.

Didn'T.

Up. No.

I was looking for a.

Spot the.

Here we go. Oh, there.

He up. Yeah, he's gonna fuck up at.

Some point. And that was not a planned up. That was a. The chair.

Decided.

Nope.

Right. Yeah. And that. That's the other thing. It's not looking for him to.

Up.

And. No.

Whatever. Just.

No. But.

It'S expected.

And we've been covering him for. Since 1993 at this.

Point. Right. Yeah. I mean, he obviously left and came back.

But. Yeah.

And jv, we never liked him. Nah. Not until recently.

He's definitely gotten better.

But anytime he works with good wrestlers, it shines that the other wrestlers.

Are.

Good. Yeah. Sabu needs to, like, face Tommy Dreamer to.

Look good.

Yeah. Yeah.

No, no disrespect. Tommy Dr.

We just watched Tommy Dreamer versus Louis Piccolo and Louis Coley.

Come on. It's way better.

Tommy Dreaming never got a spot on wrestling challenge. And Louis Piccolo was running the show.

Back then.

With band by a long shot.

And.

Candido gets.

Oh, what is that so cold reference.

Nice drop.

Kick there. Nice crisp. Yeah, crisp, clean.

Wrestling work. They have stuff to go.

For the income taboo without the tag. This is not.

Where K.

Oh tied up in the ropes. Sabu giving some ass kicks with his MC Hammer pants.

Oh. Kata. Hajime.

Oh. Oh. What the did he come from?

Referee doesn't give a. Hey, I wasn't paying attention to that. Anyway. Who's this yelling bony? Get the out of here. Yeah, if I was the referee, I would just.

Nail.

Him. Yeah. Get the out of.

Here.

Cunt. Oh. Oh.

Like, how can any of this be illegal at this point after all this.

Nonsense, right?

Oh, you want a legal win.

To.

This? Wrong. Everything is wrong with this. Everything's.

Not.

Fine.

This.

If I was referee, I would walk away and say, go yourself. You c.

That be.

It over. True. Going into business for himself.

For real. You go yourself. Go to the lockers, take a shower, get no money.

You want to cheat you.

Like, why do these gonna get victories?

Nothing. No victories. Guys can cheat all.

The time.

Yeah.

Let him. Let him. Let him use the chain. Yeah, Good. Good move.

That's not even a good move.

All you did was flip him over, right? No, he didn't land on anything. His tummy. Like he was doing a backflip on.

A.

Trampoline. Yeah.

Oh.

Yeah.

Choke. Choke. Fonzie out or something.

I like that spot, but what the.

It matter?

Irish Whip?

Hey, what. What the up with this? Do all the good when the match is over. Yeah, come on. The match is over. Now you're doing all.

The spots. Oh, he dropped him right on.

His head. Oh, I guess the match.

Isn'T over. Who the knew that was a nice.

Suplex there. Well, that was a.

Great finish. That last 14 seconds.

Was awesome. Who the knew it was over, though?

Eric Bischoff and a bar.

Fight, Right? That's a surprise.

To me. Was April 97.

Oh, was this when he was challenging McMahon?

Yeah, I think May 97 was when I went to Nitro and Eric came down on the motorcycle. Could be.

Wrong.

Cyc. Cyc and the.

Q.

Center.

Cy. Yep.

Jv. What was the.

Cyclops team? Remember.

Sacred Art? Sacred Art?

How many teams are in.

That league?

There were. I don't remember. There were a lot. Like 16.

In the.

CYL. Geez. It was all the churches.

In far over and then out some outside.

Like small.

Oh, really? Swansea.

Somerset.

Westport. Yeah. Oh, I don't know. It's all the.

What the. Is that total. Did you see that? Total elimination back of the shirt.

I.

Was like.

It's not bad enough that I gotta work my ass off in this in front of all you losers that I.

Gotta get.

What an.

Working where.

He belongs. It's the.

Monday night.

Oh, I.

Like this. No, it's awesome. This.

Is great. I'll.

Shut up.

My presence.

And even all of you ignorant seat reading marks can tell the difference between fine talent like Rob Van Dam and.

Every other.

Mr.

Monday Night.

In the.

Vince's favorite song.

That's why Vince made him a world champion, because he liked that.

N so.

Yeah, he loves.

That song.

Goes crazy. Let's wrap.

This up. All right, wrap it up. Here we go.

That was fun. Good episodes there for May 6th and 13th of 1997. And we're gonna come back in a couple weeks to cover May 20 and May 27 of 1997.

The next episode of the Extreme Easternly live cast. And also please check out the Bottom Line Wrestling cast. The career of Stone cold Steve Austin. And JV and I are now on to covering stunning Steve Austin. And we are now into 1994. And we just covered the first part of January of 1994. We got some chicken heads and we're gonna be moving on into covering some more chicken soup.

In late January of 1994. And that'll be coming up soon. So please check that out at the Bottom Line Wrestling cast. And thank you as always for Rick P. BB for joining us. And also check out his podcast that he's been working on.

That is Brick. What do you got? What is.

That called? The Hybrid wrestling cast. It's on Twitter X. You can follow me at Hybrid.

Underscore cast. All right, so yeah, definitely check that out. And he'll continue working on that. Time goes on. And you know, continue following us at here at Extreme Cast and at Bottom Line Cast. Follow me again, Mike Pruitt at NPR283. Follow JV at John Van Damage and. And thank you for always being supporters here.

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See you next time.

So long.

Sam.

Sunny weather.

And I.

I could reach moms too.

And I.

Don'T like to think about the city now now.

Hey guys I I in the countryside too.

And I hate everything about you.

Everything about you.

And I.

Don'T like a thing about your mother.

And I.

I hate your daddy's getting let's do.

And I.

Don'T like a thing about your sister now know.

Cuz I I I think sex is overrated too.

And I get sick when I'm around I change scared to be around I hate everything about you.

Everything about you.

Everything about you.

Everything about you.

Some say I got a bad attitude but but that don't change the way I feel about you and if you think this might be bringing me down look again.

Sa.

Well I know you know everybody know where it comes where did it go make it sad life too bad cause I'm having a ball never gonna think about you.

Everything about you.

Everything about I get sick when I'm around my I ch to be around life.

And.

Everything.

About.

You.

Doing good now.

Things just gotten worse I'm drunk again I swear.

This presser.

Is just.

A curse.

I got here.

I cut off all my friends I think I figured out my life begins when fun ends I got my wings, I'm free throw aside please.

Yeah I got my wings now nothing really.

Pleases me till everything falls apart Then I get to try to put it back together and fall apart and count on that Count on bad.

Bad weather.

Was.

It good?

I don't remember much about it when things start to feel right you can count on me to start to doubt it and the devil's not in the details of the devil's in my head incidents Shoot first, apologize later Another quick and new short shot Romance but not what I wanted Now I don't want anything.

Yeah, I got what I wanted now my life is just.

Everything falls apart Then I get to try to put it back together yet fall apart and you count on that count on that.

I met God this afternoon riding on an uptown train I said don't you have better things to do? You said if I do my job what would you complain about? So I let it go to hell now I'll have something to do.

He said I'll let go to hell does that sound familiar to you? Where everything falls apart then I get to try to put it back together yeah, it falls apart count on that count all that bad weather well every of them that falls apart they dance sooner later the God come back together Everything that come together soon.

Coming in and.

Take it all.

You going.

Hey everybody it's Family day. Ethan, you want to go first? My dad's a police officer.

Not so tough now, are.

You, punk? My mom is a.

Fire woman.

My brother brother is a watch star.

I spend a lot on all the clothes that I got Cause all the geeks that I meet they all look cooler than me but what to do when they're all looking at you? Cause you're the freak of the week Cause you're on the TV.

Make me a promise Stop it before we begin With a hurt under my head if I ever lose it again.

I gotta shrink a swear he's Elvis I think he wears the coolest suede shoes we're not coming without blues he thinks it's all about culture and art but the truth of it is that it rips me apart.

Stop it before we begin we hurt out of my head if I ever lose it again yeah.

It before we begin with out of my head if I ever lose it again can you make me a promise? Stop it before we begin Put your hand out of my head if I ever lose it again Tell.

Me a.

I got a good job.

At the.

Dollar store.

One foot in.

The hole One foot getting deeper With a broken mirror and a blown out speaker and I ain't got much else to lose.

I'm faded, flat busted Been jaded, I've been dusted I know that I've seen better days.

One foot in the hole one foot getting deeper cranker to 11 blow another speaker and I got I ain't got much to lose Cause I've seen better days.

I've seen better days.

Days I've seen better days.

Now my cups fill up with five grub, wine I find myself here all the time Another whip in the glass Another chip in my tooth.

Rained on, I've been stained on Pull another coat I tried to put the blame on and now I'm stepping on all the cracks so I guess there ain't no use Cause I've seen better days I've been star Opening plays I've seen better days in the bottom drop down I've seen better days I've been sty.

I've seen better days and the bottom drops out.

Do you like my.

Gucci bag? That's.

Beautiful. Beautiful.

Chicken.

Like glass second hand like glory Miss the bus but I'm in no hurry Molasses fast, no business born.

One foot in the hole one foot getting deeper crank it to 11 blowing on the speaker hand I ain't got I ain't got much to lose I've seen better days I've been so minutes late I I've seen better days.

I've seen better days I've been star a minute plays I've seen better days I've seen better days I know that I've seen better days.

I've been the star of so many plays I found a walkway on the edge with that whole.

I've been down I've been down harder baby.

Calls tells us why to me.

A plane takes off from Baltimore and touches down down a Bourbon street.

Sit outside.

God we've never seen but never fails to s me Sunday comes and all the paper say.

I've been down harder baby I've been down I've been down hardest baby.

My life thoughts away.

The summer come for everyone can humans do it? Prophet said if I die before I run to speak.

Money pay for all the days I live the way I have a sl.

It.

Sa.

Fly the way.