It's a new year.

Dave Douglas. Oh, my God.

I've traveled with this guy. I've trained with them, I've broken bread with them. And I choked him out.

The final battle between Raven and Tommy Dreamer.

You did your job and ran the fuckers off.

Look at that.

From the twisted steel section of Dudleyville. Extreme Championship Wrestling has been thrown into disarray. This, my friends, is E C W.

Welcome to the extreme ECW live cast. And we are back now for our ECW hardcore TV episodes 197 and 198 from January 28th and February 4th of 1997. I'm Mike PR and I'm back with JV and Rick BB. How you guys doing?

Doing well, brother. Yeah, how are you?

Yeah, yeah. Oh, Rick B.B.

Stale and Mike Crockett's.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry, Crockett.

Goon Squads ripping off material from each other. Come on.

Sue us. Right?

It's. I was just gonna say it's not ripping off, it's paying homage.

Hey, like I said though, for all intents and purposes, we started the JV Goon Squad.

Yeah.

There were no other PTT side projects other than us.

Oh, really?

I should probably originally originate.

But.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're back in the his house here. But ECW hardcore TV 197, 198, and yeah, I'm happy to be back at it again. And we're covering more of 1997, building up to the first pay per view, Fairly Legal, which when I hear it these days sounds totally inappropriate for a. Anything.

Yeah, for anything.

But anyway. Yeah, so we're gonna get into this soon, but let's get our plugs in here. That sounds inappropriate as well.

This just keeps getting wor.

You can follow us on X at Extreme Cast. Follow Me, Mike Pruitt, MPRU83, Paul JV at John Band Damage, and follow Rick BB at Leo White85. Also check out JV and I @ the Bottom Line Wrestling cast where we are covering the career of Stone Cold Steve Austin. He could falls on X at Bottom Line Cast. Then also check out Rick BB's project, his podcast project where he is covering hybrid wrestling. And you know, that's Japanese wrestling, shoot wrestling. And he's on episode four. And episode four is entitled Ricky Dozen and Kimura. And we talked about this on the previous episode, but this episode is now released. And I just had to bring up though like every time you were talking about Ricky Dozen because I'm not familiar with early Japanese wrestling from the 1950s. And when you say Ricky Dozen, I'm always thinking, like, who The Ricky Dozen. Like, I'm thinking Ricky Dozen. Like Ricky.

Like, his first name is Ricky.

Yeah, Ricky. Like R, I, C, K, Y. Ricky Choshu. Whoever the that is.

Japanese pro wrestler.

Oh, thanks. Good example.

Yeah. Well, I believe he. Honestly, that's part of the reason why he's named Ricky Choshu is. I believe he took it in homage to Ricky Dozan, but that's beside the point. We'll get to Ricky Choshu at some point on the. On the hybrid wrestling cast, but not for a little while.

I was thinking Ricky Steamboat or Ricky Schroeder.

Ricky Schroeder. Some random Japanese wrestler decides, oh, Ricky Schroeder. Like, let me name myself after him.

Well, I wasn't going.

I watched Silver Spoons.

I just meant I thought his name was Ricky. Because the way you say Ricky Dozen. Ricky does.

Ricky Dozen. Yep.

So, like, all right, there's got to be a Ricky Dozen out there. Like, that's funny. So I searched Ricky Dozen, and then in my search came out Ricky Dozen. Ricky Dozen. I don't know if it's pronounced this way, but it's a band. A band called Ricky. Ricky Dozen or Ricky Dozen. And I did find a link to wrestling because one of their album covers. And I don't know how popular this band is. Might be as popular as this podcast. So I don't know how many people.

In other words, really popular. Huh?

Yeah.

Dude, I couldn't find, like, anything about this band anywhere other than just where they post music. Yeah, there's no reviews about them, but there's a Ricky Dozen. A Ricky Dozen band. Did you know about this?

I did your research. I did not. But I'm looking them up right now. And their. Their album cover. Yes. Is a. A sumo wrestler with tattoos on his titties. So, yeah. And apparently they're French, which is even weirder because I know. I know Ricky Dozen, the actual Ricky Dozen was like a God to people in Japan. He was, like, a huge celebrity and everything. So I guess it. It wouldn't surprise me that somebody would come up with a band name Ricky Dozen. Like, it could be, like, Ricky Dozen, but they're French. So, like, kind of odd. But I guess that. I guess it's possible, you know? But I'm definitely gonna have to check them out. We should. We should play some Ricky Dozen on this episode for one of the break songs.

Yeah, I'm down. It's not that good through your headphones.

Yeah.

Yeah. Rick was playing it Just a second ago, you guys didn't hear it, but yeah, yeah, yeah, it did sound pretty good.

Keep it. Keep it coming. Off of. Made of iron.

Keep it coming. Is it spelled with a O or you.

No, it's. It's spelled with an O, unfortunately.

All right, if we were talking about.

Francine, it would be with a, uh.

I'll keep it. Yeah, I'll keep it coming. Yeah, she's. She's speaking of Francine, she's going to be pretty prevalent coming up here. Yes. As we get to January 28, 1997. So before we get to that, though. Yes. Check out Rick's hybrid wrestling cast and Ricky Dozen versus Kimora. Kimora lock. I'm like, whatever the. But yes. Good there. All right, guys, Ready for this? You ready?

Ready, yeah.

Is that how Triple H is gonna start off? WrestleMania? Oh, you ready? You like Vince for being. I'm going off right now, but Vince, this is WrestleMania now that triple H is in charge.

Are you ready?

Okay. Anyway, I just want to point that out.

That would be pretty cool, though, and I'm not a Triple H guy.

Yeah, it would be cool.

I feel like that would happen. Yeah, I know. I want to be mad. I'll be like, yeah, that makes sense.

There. And Austin, hopefully showing up for people like, for our age. We're just like, that's. This is it. Like, this is probably our last time we'll get to experience that. This type of nostalgia, you know?

Yeah, yeah.

I do want to point out, by the time listen is here, this WrestleMania is already over at this point.

Recording early. Yeah.

So, yeah, I. I wonder how it goes down. Say it again.

People be like, jv, that idiot Austin didn't show up.

That's fine. I was just thinking. You made me think of something else. Like, how great would, like, Survivor Series be if they weren't Triple H, Austin the Rock, and I don't know a third person who could be a third.

Legend getting in shape.

Yeah, that's true. Oh, that would be great. That would be the Attitude era versus the new era. Survivor Series.

Yeah.

They can do it, right?

Because they're getting away from, like, the soft core style.

Like, you know what? You know, I just had a thought and I mean, you can completely poo poo this. I don't care. The. The four guys that you mentioned, right. For the Attitude era. And then like, Cody, Seth Rollins, Kevin Owens, and, I don't know, somebody else in a fucking War Games match, but real fucking War Games, that'd be top on the fucking cage, people Bleeding, no bullshit. Like, that would be amazing.

Is that coming up, Four games?

What games is Survivor Series now?

Yeah. Oh, but that's what I'm saying is four on four, two guys enter every, you know what, three minutes or whatever that would be. Somebody else comes in, match doesn't end until somebody gives up or passes out. Like, that's it. Like actual War Games. Like, I hate this. Oh, no, we're gonna. We're not gonna have a top on the cage and people are gonna do flippy divey bullshit off of it. No, just.

Yeah, just be.

Sorry, rant over.

Just be brutal. Rink. I agree.

That'd be awesome.

Right? And I'm not. I'm not a guy that's like, oh, every match needs to be a fucking bloodbath. But if you're gonna have a War Games match, come on, have it be a bloodbath.

It's a. It's a disgrace.

It is.

That's the point of the fucking cage. Blood. That's how I was associated with. I know it's supposed to be, oh, you can't escape, but for me, growing up, cage means blood, right?

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, it's. Did you. Did you guys happen to see the ending of Raw last this past Monday? Oh, yeah, yeah. Cody's covered in blood. The rocks, like, slapping him around, wiping his blood on the belt. Like, that's exactly what. What's needed, like, for this feud. You can't just be like, oh, I'm going to insult him and say his mama's a hoe. Like, you need to. It needs to be a blood feud. It needs to be a blood feud, because it is. You can't. You can't get. You can't. In my opinion, you can't have a WrestleMania feud. That's not that personal, you know.

I agree.

They're doing it right this year.

I agree.

Exactly.

And it's gonna be so much better when Cody actually does get through this quagmire that he's put through. Win the title. Yep, yep. And that's better than what it would have been last year.

Yeah, yeah. Yep.

This should make the fans happier.

Yeah, yeah, him.

I mean, if he loses, it's going to be pretty. Like, what the.

Oh, if he loses. Yeah, yeah.

People were pissed last year that he didn't finish the story, but I think him finishing the story this year means so much more. Yep. Because of the build up.

Right. It's been great.

Anyways, let's get back to ecw.

All right, all right. So we're now going to cover Eclipse, hardcore TV, episode 197 from January 28, 1997. And on Peacock, it's season five, episode five. But we are gonna watch this on the Internet Archive. So if you want to watch along with us, go over there and check it out. It's redub. It's WCE, January 28, 1997. And matches are going to be from Scranton, Pennsylvania. So Michael Scott might be in the building. Yeah, totally true. But it's January 18, 1997, in Scranton, and I think that's the next two. Yeah, both episodes. No, no, just this first one is going to be from there. So, yeah, I'll give a countdown, as always. Three down to one, then say play. You guys all set? Ready to go?

Yes, sir.

All right, so here we go. Here's the countdown to our episode here. Episode 197. 3, 2, 1, play.

Here we go.

All right, we got a match in progress. Mikey Whipwreck we see in the rink. I'd like to see what his T shirt is, but he just got kicked off the top rope. Looks like Rick. You know this guy? Who is he?

That is GQ Gorgeous or Chris Chetty?

GQ Gorgeous. Chris Chetty at this. Chris Vandelay. He's going by.

Yep.

What a name.

Do you. Do you guys get the joke on Chris Vandalay at least? This is my.

Like, Seinfeld is what I'm assuming.

Art Vandelay. Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

So George Costanza, you know, Seinfeld listeners, I'm sure you know John's Costanza, came up with the name Art Vandalay as a way to just get out of trouble in one of the early episodes of Seinfeld. Oh, my name's. I'm Art Vandalay. And then that changed over time to Vandalay Industries. And he worked for Art Vandalay then. And I love this. The judge, that sentence, Seinfeld and George and all them for making fun of a fat guy. Not helping him out. In Massachusetts, the fake town of Massachusetts, the judge was Arthur Vanderleich.

It's great writing.

Mikey's giving him props.

Yeah. And, Rick, what do you. You know more about Chris Chetty other than what I just said about Vandala?

Yeah. Related to Taz.

Yeah. As his cousin, right?

Yep. Taz's cousin. And also Chris Chetty was. I could be wrong, but I. I don't know that he's definitely the first guy to graduate from the house of hardcore, but he's one of the first, right?

Yeah, he's. He's Gonna be the first to be on ECW tv, right?

Oh, absolutely.

Yeah.

Yeah. Yep.

And he was trained by Mikey Weprecht mostly.

Right.

Which is generally the case when you trained by somebody. You appear on the tv, you wrestle with the guy that trained you.

Right. Because you. You've got the, you know, the most experience facing them. And also they kind of know they can culture. Right. They can highlight, you know, your strengths while they're working through your weaknesses and all that. Yeah, right.

Got mayhem up here.

All right, so this is from last episode. And this was a big development last episode where we had a new triple threat form. So we got some crazy action going on here where Tommy Dream is getting.

Up a new alliance.

There's Tommy Rich.

Tommy Rich, too, right?

This was on the last episode, getting fired up.

Somebody say something about Terry Funk getting funked up? Yeah, that's me.

Tommy Rich just chucks the stretcher on him.

Got a haircut like a.

This is why the franchise had to start doing a ponytail because his hair's all fluffy at that point. And it looks. It looks weird. It's like a helmet if. When he doesn't have it all tied back and it's not wet, you know?

Yeah.

Oh, that's a hell of a bump.

Yep. Pitbull 2 getting slammed through the table, then taking a single arm ddt. Oh, like, it was already that break that. Rick, I do appreciate your breakdown of Shane Douglas's hair.

You're welcome.

You're welcome.

He keeps. He keeps that ponytail for, like, the next two years.

So someone told him it was hot. And it wasn't his wife.

No. Probably Francine.

Yeah. Oh, you got to keep that.

I. I like it, honestly. I think it gives them kind of like. Like, it. It makes him look like a golf.

Yeah.

Yeah. Definitely looks like a jerk.

Yeah. And, like, it wouldn't work with. And many other guys, like Chris Candido with a ponytail would look dumb.

Oh, no. His head is going to stay the same.

Yeah. He's got to have a crew cut or like that. You know, it's a little long, but up.

All right, so this was also on the last episode. And you know, Mass Mustachio man, best pistachio with his.

His dad's sweater.

Mustachio mosques. Is that good? Is that proper?

Sounds good to me.

Yeah, sounds good to me. The whole crowd knows it's Rick Rude, but Rick. Is there, like, a legal reason why he can't be known as Recruit?

Not because they do avoid.

They do avoid him being named Rick Root.

Yeah.

Around it.

I Know that, you know, Rick Rude had been injured in 1994 in Japan in a match against Sting and he back up London. And you're right. And he was collecting Lloyd's of London so he couldn't be physical in terms of a wrestling, you know, appearances and everything. I don't know that he was definitely barred from appearing on wrestling in general or if he was just maybe.

Did he have a contract with anybody still?

I mean maybe wcw. But at the same time this is like three years. Almost injured. Yeah, he got injured. I want to say it was like May or June of 94. So it's been two, two and a half. Almost three years.

Maybe just being cautious.

Yeah, that's, that's what I'm thinking is it might just be cautious. But. And I mean I'm not. This isn't really spoilers because this is like 25 years old or whatever. But they'll continue this for the next couple of months and into the pay per view. So, you know, including the. If, if Douglas wins at the pay per view, the masked man will unmask kind of stipulation.

I don't remember that crap.

Yeah, but we, we kind of. I don't know if they skipped it or if we just talked over it, but there was the, the excellent line of Rick Rude saying that if he took the mask off Shane Douglas would his pants and everybody have to deal with the smell.

We did mention that last.

Which got it. Yeah. It's got a huge pop.

Fought.

Yeah.

All right, so the, the big reveal of Rick Rude was not the reveal of him, but he brought back Gary Wolf. Pitbull number one. The. With Shane Douglas.

Hey.

And the episode finally start. Yeah, that's how it always is.

We're like five minutes in. Seven. Seven and a half minutes in.

All right, well I'm gonna step away and get a drink during this break.

Go for it.

It's kind of cool that they started the theme song during that pit. Bullshit.

Yeah.

Sceneful. Forever be iconic.

Yeah, yeah. And I love that they keep the old clips in addition to mixing in some newer.

Yeah.

Oh, that. That arena looks tight like. I like that.

Yep. It's gonna be a fun crowd.

Yeah. Yeah. They're jam packed to the rafters. As you can see. The, the. They got the new skirt that the ECW logo and they're. They're going with the blue matte. You know they don't have that dingy ripped up full of duct tape holes matte. Now it's a blue mat.

Definitely helps the optics out.

Yes. Yep. And the same with the black ropes. You know, it's. There's a contrast between the blue and the black. So it. It helps for the visuals. You can see there's more cameramen around too, which is helping with, you know, the production values. Oh, hello.

Yeah, they can switch cams better shots.

That is a lovely dress that Francine has on.

Oh, yeah.

Even the gold one that was on last time was good.

Yeah. Everything she wears is amazing.

Yeah.

For real, she's.

She's a beautiful woman.

The are we for her to come on screen and say, eh.

She just. She just ran her finger up Joey's chest to his chin and he's wearing that. He's wearing the suit again, that's not tailored. See, like that. The pants look so big on him.

That was also like the style though, I think in the 90s.

Was it?

I think, I think that was like a. I think that was like an office thing because my dad used to have like wide ass khakis on when he would go to the office.

Oh, okay. I mean, that's the thing. Like I. My, my dad didn't work in an office. He worked in a warehouse. So he was wearing jeans to work.

You know, it's ridiculous.

Yeah, yeah, it looks it. It's not a good look. Like, I get wanting to be comfortable, but like, it looks sloppy. Like, you know, he. He went. He went and just bought the suit off the rack.

Yep. Look at that triple threat. You guys already talking about Francine?

We already did.

We could. If you want to do it again, we can.

Oh, what'd you guys say?

Please feel free to say whatever.

Whatever you like. Oh, it goes like this. That was very insightful. That sucked ass.

That was bad.

Horrible. But look how jacked he is. I think every week it's like he's growing like huge.

Yeah.

Hulk just grows week after week.

Shane Smash.

But yeah, Francine, she got those good heels on. She got the slight cleavage, which is perfect.

It's classy. Classy cleavage. The off the shoulder number.

Yes, I love. You're right. I love the parallel titty to shoulder ratio.

Yes.

That makes oogle of that woman. Classy. Right? Like use mathematics.

The parallel. Parallel shoulder to titty ratio. Is that what you called it? Yeah, I like that.

Very clever. Pretty classy.

That's the. The Prothagorean theorem.

Yeah.

Yeah. That took me a second. I had to. I'm like, I don't want to this up.

That's a good one. I'll simplify it for you. This is what I tell my students. That's a pruism.

All right. I like that.

One of JB's neighbors knows a solid pruism. But I won't talk about it today. There's anything wrong with it. I just don't want to explain it right now. It's called Pens versus pencils Pruism.

You made it up. Yeah, tell us.

Basically. It's basically like a Seinfeld joke.

Oh, it's not you.

No, no, but I made it up. It's not.

You made up a joke you heard on Seinfeld?

No, no, it's not. It's.

Oh, it's like a.

It could be a Seinfeld joke. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm McGill cutting over Francine right now. Candida looks great. Brian Lay man. I don't know. He. He just never fit to me. I'm not buying Brian Lee as a member of this duo.

Nope.

Nope. Doesn't fit. He's like the Luke Gallows. The.

Mean though. I mean, Festus is that. Was. Was that his name?

Fastest.

Yeah.

Hey, man, the character just isn't the strength.

Go for.

Oh, we got some Guns and the. Is this Guns and Roses?

Yeah. Welcome to the jungle.

Welcome to the jungle. I've heard the song.

Have you now? I. I realized I thought it was a more obscure song.

I'm not Mike Mills.

Oh my God. This is m. Mike awesome.

Oh, the return of Mike.

Aw, him.

Holy man is back.

That's a beast.

You know. You know something? I. I swear to God, I saw a kid, he was probably like seven today. He had a mullet like that. It was in. It was insane. I'm not lying. That rivaled that. It was weird.

All right, so we're gonna get a video package of franchise and triple threat. But Mike Austin is back after three years. It's been three years. It's Mike awesome bent the out of jt. JT Smith. Remember that Jamie body? What happened when Mike Awesome Emily dove off the ring and slammed into J.T. smith back?

Yeah, essentially. Was that the night the line was crossed?

Yes, the night the line was crossed.

Yeah.

So that was 1994. So it's been three years. This is going to be short lived return of Mike Lawson like he always does, seemingly.

Yeah, yeah.

No, it's. Dude, he thinks he's gonna be a big star. He should have been.

But he keeps leaving because he's got. He's got a Sweet Japan deal. Yeah. Yeah. Fmw.

He apparently didn't make enough money over there. Should have settled in ECW for a little bit and got a good deal earlier. Yeah, no, maybe you like the Asian chicks.

I'm shocked. He never got a wwf.

Like, so horny.

He didn't want to stick around America. That's the, the thing is he was getting. He was getting paid well enough in Japan and didn't have to. I mean, admittedly he was doing like hardcore wrestling, but he was getting paid well enough in Japan and didn't. Didn't need to tour like WWF or WCW where it was on the road, you know, 300 days a year and.

Probably having a shitty ass gimmick.

Yeah, they wouldn't, they wouldn't have just let him be Mike Awesome. They would have given him some sort of a stupid gimmick and it wouldn't have worked. But, yeah, so he's. He's gonna be here for a short period, then he'll go to Japan and then he'll come back and then it'll go away again.

So do you think he wasn't making enough?

I. Well, what I think it was was he was doing well enough in Japan, but then the opportunity came to come to him, you know, to ECW in America and, you know, be here for a bit. Obviously he got paid a little bit.

All right, let's. I think we should lay out. This is supposed to be good.

Figure out actually what your goals are. And I came back to the dressing room and I sat there and I sat there and I sat there and an hour must have went by and I looked down and I haven't even unlaced my shoes yet. I thought about a lot of things. I thought about Tommy Dreamer. And I know I've told you people this before. There's nobody in this world that tries any harder than that guy right there. And we're all his fans. And no matter how satisfied we are with him, he just always wants to do a little bit better. And he's got the right name and that Dreamer name, he reminds me of somebody a long, long, long time ago. The person he reminds me of is my father, Dory Funk Sr. Who was also a professional wrestler. And in 1973, he was in his 50s and he had this dream. He wanted to be champion. And that was what he wanted to do all of his life. He wanted to be the world's champion. Wrestling was his life, and that was an important thing to him, but it never happened. The reason it didn't happen, because in 1973, June of that year, my father had a massive heart attack while he was wrestling my Brother and I rushed into the hospital. And on the way to the hospital, he says, how much further do I have to go? And I looked at him and I knew he was in a lot of pain. I said, not much further, dad. Just a couple more miles. And he said, dad, gumm it, he says, I can't make it. I'm going. Well, those were his last words and whatever. Those were his last words. I figured that the Lord had good reason to take him, and he did take him. And it was the saddest day in my brother and my life. And it'll be the saddest day in my life, probably forever. Now, 24 years later, here I am trying to figure out my goals after a loss. And what my goal is right now is that I guess I'm a dreamer, too. I want to be world's Champion. I know if I get in the ring against that ECW champion, if I can get in there against Raven, I know that I can beat him. I just feel it. And why do I want to do it? I thought about that, too. I want to do it for all you hardcore fans out there. I want to do it for all of us old farts to prove that we don't have one foot in the grave. But most of all, I want to do it to fulfill my father's dreams. That's what I want to do, is fulfill his dreams. Now, I know that I can't guarantee a victory, but dadgummit, I can guarantee that I'm not gonna give up and I'm not gonna give going to quit, and I'm going to just keep on going. And if I can get him in the match, a championship match, and if I can beat him and they present me with that belt, I don't want to stand out there and say, I did it my way. I want to invite every one of you ECW fans that are in the arena that night to come in the arena and stand with me. And I want us to hold arms in the air, and I want to invite anybody that's watching it on television to hold their arms in the air and say, we did it our way. Not like the wwf. We did it our way. Not like the wcw. We did it our way. Not like aaa, New Japan, All Japan, fmw. We did it our way. Not like the Ultimate Fighting Organizations.

We did it our way.

And what is our way? That's the ECW way. And what is the ECW way? It's the only way. Because it's the most physical, dangerous form of wrestling in the world today, bar none.

We did it our way. Because we love it that way. We love it that way.

God damn. What a problem, man.

That was awesome.

That was amazing.

One of the best from us. Yeah. And to think back, all the years that we've covered and obviously all the years that this promotion ran, at this point, for him to cut that promo is so perfect.

Yeah.

Because he was the guy that ushered this whole thing in.

Yep.

Yeah.

It would be nothing without Terry Funk.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, while we're listening to that, I looked it up and that. That indeed, his dad died June 73 of a massive heart attack.

Oh, so that was.

That was legit.

Yeah. And. And why would you think otherwise? Because he wouldn't lie about that.

No, he's not gonna. I mean, you could see he started. He started to tear up.

Yeah. That was awesome.

Yeah. And then I looked. I looked it up and he died. Terry funk died in 2023. Him and his dad died 50 years apart. Not. Not to the day or anything, but 50 years apart, you know? That's crazy, man.

Pull to Raven. Nevermore. Yeah, I like to have that T shirt. I want all the T shirts.

Give me all the T shirts except even that ugly ass Sabu one.

Yes. That's the one we want the most.

Yep.

I want this BWO shirt too.

Even the shitty one. Yeah.

The white one or the blue one?

Either of them, honestly.

What the. Is this the John Spencer Blues Explosion?

Somebody left a commercial one.

Oh, that.

I have no idea. John Spencer Blues.

That's a. That's a band. I remember that. The John Spencer. That's a band.

Is it? Okay, Cool name for a band.

Tons Pencil. They definitely had a hit song. I know the. This is. If this is actually a good song. This covers our outro.

Yeah.

All right, so we're getting some promos here. Rick, do you want to go over anything from the notes from the.

I'm looking at the notes right now.

Look at some if you want.

Yeah. I mean, just looking at results. Yeah. So besides Mikey Beaton, Chris Vandelay, Chris Chetty that we saw.

Yeah. With the cyc, right?

Yep. Mike awesome. Apparently Pinned Kid Cash. David, Jericho Morton, whatever. With an awesome bomb. We had Axel and Devon beaten. Spike and Bubba Ray, new Jack pins.

It had JV right there.

An old injury. I needed to have it done. You see, I was running rough shot through people here in ECW at like 80%. I was wrestling hurt for like, the longest time. And as the time came along that Joey Styles and other people here in ECW had this big revelation. Ooh, Taz might be hurt. Taz is already on the road to recovery. And you see, now I'm healed. Now I'm at 110%. And that's bad news for a lot of people here in ecw. Sabu, what do you think it's gonna be like now? Sabu, what do you think the beating is gonna be like now? How hot do you think the path of rage is gonna be now? Saboo? Oh, and you must think that Rob Van Damme is gonna slow me up by you putting Van Damme in my face. That's gonna stop me?

Pa?

I don't think so, Sabu. You see, Van Damme, you ain't nothing but a wannabe. You ain't nothing but a fake karate, taekwondo, long haired punk. You make me sick. You turn my stomach. I despise you and everything you stand for. I go into a match with you figuring we're gonna wrestle. The classic grappler versus the striker. But no, Van Damme, you didn't want it like that. But no, you wanted to use a weapon. You wanted to use a chair. You see, Rob, I don't need a weapon. These are my weapons. Sandman, he needs a stick to fight his battles. These are my sticks. Tommy Dreamer, he needs a garbage can to fight his battles. These are my garbage cans. And even the legend, that 169 year old man swinging a shovel. Terry Funk, he needs a shovel. He should be dead. He should dig a hole for himself. The rigor mortis is setting in. He's an old washed up punk freak. These are my shovels. Hey Rob, I'm gonna do something for you, brother. I'm gonna beat you at your own game. You want to play with weapons, huh? No, we're gonna play with weapons. And Sabu, please, I'm begging you. Don't think it's over. Don't think it's near over. Cause brother, it ain't. But that far away. That far away. That far away. Sabu, when the time is right and the time is here and it's coming, I swear to you, as God is my witness, as this is my dojo and this is my my world and ECW is my territory. Sabu, get out of my dojo.

Great promo. Other than that, at the end, he.

Sounded constipated at the end.

Oh, that was a good promo.

It went too far at the end, but it was amazing to start. We got.

That was awesome. Good pro.

Yeah, that was great.

I will admit. I chuckled a little bit when he goes, these are my trash cans. Like.

That was cool.

I get the idea, but it's just funny. These, like, my hands are my trash cans.

Yeah. Oh, I. I was just picturing like a cartoon character with the trash can.

Right? Yeah. All right, so get back to the results of this.

Get back to the results.

Yeah. Mahoney after coming off the top rope with a chair shot to his head. Tommy and Buella beat the franchise. And Francine Stevie beats Little Guido. The Eliminators defeated Axel and Devon doing double duty. Or maybe they won the right to face the Eliminators.

Back to promo time. Does the Raven have the ability to keep up with them?

Your.

Let's see.

He's wearing his drug rug.

It took a man's wife because I didn't have my own family.

What would you do for kicks? What would you do?

What you do for kicks?

Drink lots of somas, jerk off.

Yeah.

I can steal someone's kid.

Let's get a Jim Morrison blanket.

Jim Morrison? Yeah. What's Joey gonna say? JB Styles taking out Little Greed. I like this place that they're in. Scranton Youth Center.

Yeah, for sure.

It's a good spot.

Rick and I said the same thing when you went to Rev 1 out.

I take longer than that. Man.

That awesome Stevie kick.

Little Guido could have played Puck in X Men.

Speaking of X Men, JV, you need to watch X Men 97.

I know. Come on. Believe me, I know.

Rick, were you into X Men back in the day?

Not really. Like, I. I watched. I watched the. The Animated series, but I was. And I like the arcade game, but I wasn't like hardcore into it. Like, I never was really big into comics until I got to be like an adult.

Well, they brought back that original TV show. It's called X Men 97 and it's continuing from the finale of the original show.

Oh, cool.

And the animations similar. It's not exactly the same, but it's. They tried to do it as close as they could today to that. They brought back the whole.

They brought.

They brought back the whole audio cast. Like every voice actor is the same.

Oh, wow.

Yeah, I thought. Except Wolverine.

Well, I don't know if there's exceptions, but pretty much it's the same cast. There might be exceptions. I don't know about Wolverine, but whoever did a good job. All you gotta do is say Bob and you're all right.

Yeah.

Hey, bub. Hey, bub. I like Gene Grain. You Scott Summers. I want to your wife.

I'm simping so hard For Jean Gray.

Dee Gray, I love you. Now the two Gene Grays. There's like four Jean Grays. Why, why is it gonna be so many?

Jean Grace, she still offer dramatically get up after she uses her powers.

Oh, I can't. I can't move.

So powerful. Can't. Can't control it.

Yeah.

Jean gray, the Phoenix.

JV.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

One of.

Yeah, I know what JV's saying without saying it.

Actually.

I know what Marvel writers are saying about people.

Not quite as bad as what Nickelodeon was doing, though.

Oh, have you watched that?

I stopped. It was too. Just too. It was too much. I'm like, this is just ridiculous.

I watched the first two episodes and.

Like, why am I watching this?

Yeah.

These people should be in jail.

I didn't want to watch it yet.

And then I did, like, wow.

That's the thing is I haven't watched it because although I am interested, I am also fearful of what is. I'm gonna find out, you know, Nothing good.

Yeah, it's nothing good. I'm not afraid to. I want to know this.

Yeah.

Because that's the point of it. You need to know and be aware of this nastiness that's out there.

Yeah, Well, I think it's more like I'm. I'm just afraid that, like, I'm going to feel guilty that, like, somehow I contributed to it because I watched Nickelodeon. You know.

If anything, you're a victim if you are our age.

Yeah. I mean, we've discussed this. That you. You two are like a year and two years ahead of me. So it's not like, you know, we're all the same age range. Yeah.

Yeah. I, I feel like a lot of this was actually after us.

Is it? Oh, okay.

Yeah.

Oh, no, you're right. It was. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's all like, I mean, the Binds era type stuff for Nickelodeon.

Yeah.

Oh, okay. So that. It's.

There are some people that were affected from all that.

Yeah.

But it was late people that I was. I had no awareness of who they were.

Oh, so it's not like the first couple seasons.

No.

Okay.

Because he. The guy that was the problem was he was like, totally in charge.

Yet the tickler guy on the show. Like, what the.

Well, later. Yeah, that was his character.

The Tickle or the pickle guy.

The Pickle guy. Yeah.

I. I couldn't believe that he got hooking Ray Romano.

That's what I couldn't believe. I couldn't believe Ray Romano went along with, like, being in a glory hole with a Pickle.

Yeah.

What?

Dude, you're gonna. You're gonna watch like.

What is this? It's on Paramount.

It's Max. Oh, it's on max.max or ID.

Okay, free.

If you have ID, then. I don't know. IDs now associated with Mac, so I don't know how.

All right, I'll have to look like.

If you don't have a cable, I don't know, but I'm two episodes in. Dude's a creep.

Yep.

Dan Snyder. Yeah, call his name out. Dan sn. Not even. Like, he might not even be the one that was the worst, but he just treated his employees like, too, so that needs to be a thing that happens too. You can't just be a.

Yeah, don't be a boss.

Is that. Is that a prism? Don't be a. Yeah, def.

That one I've heard before.

Yeah, well, that's not a prism, though. I want to classify that.

I'm giving.

All right, so, Prue, I gotta. I got a question. While you were in. While you were away, JV and I.

Was on the toilet.

Whatever.

I went back in time. I went to. I went to the dance in 1955. Anyway. Okay, go ahead.

How do you. How do you feel about the new apron skirts and the visual of the blue mat with the black ring, ring ropes?

Sucks.

You don't like them?

No.

Okay.

No, it's too commercial.

All right, I like it.

Yeah. Say I dig it. I will. I will say this. I like. I like the. The black with the white as opposed to when they. They switch over to purple.

Oh.

Oh, that's definitely worse.

Yeah, that was the most haphazard bump into the.

Yeah. What the.

All right, so on top of that, look at the mats all over the floor. How about that?

Yeah, the mat. The mats are stupid.

Mats look like.

Yeah.

All right, so I'll. I'll flip my comment the map. The mat suck. Ring aprons. Oh, okay. Because at least now you're promoting the brand, right?

Yeah, Hard body. Harper would be proud. But no, I like. I like that the ring mat, the canvas itself is not that beat up, nasty, you know, covered with duct tape one. You know, I mean, visually, it's still kind of dingy, but it's not. It. It doesn't look like a two bit, you know, like, indie promotion as much anymore.

Yeah.

For a second there, I thought Raven was going to hit him in the dick with.

You know what?

He did get him in the Ding Ding.

Yeah, you did hit him in the Ding Ding just then.

Oh, Sandman's Ding ding. Dummy is hanging out 9.99. Playing fitness work some cardio.

Yeah.

Don'T give a on ecw. I'm so sick of Raven and Sandman.

It is kind of old.

I'm just not into it.

Socks, come on.

I mean that the brawl they had a couple of episodes ago at the.

I love that.

Pretty awesome.

That's one of the highlights of the whole podcast for me is that, like, that's memorable to me. But this other week after week, I just want Stevie Richards come in here and super kick their asses and win the title. Them. Like, if BWO was taking over, where's the championships for bwo? Yeah, but her. I want to see her ass sneak out for a second.

Yeah, just like I wanted to see panties right there. Yeah, just get a. Oh, she's taking over.

Oh, domestic violence.

Oh, and the W is slipping because their tits are pushing it down.

Yeah, sorry.

Tits are busting.

They're busting.

It's a busting. Oh, I gotta stop what's happening because music playing.

Yep, Here goes the bwl.

Excuse me, people. We're not Pavlov's dog. Excuse me, gentlemen in the back. Gentleman is back. Rick doesn't get this. Rick, do you know that from.

No, I don't.

No, I know, but we said it in Bottom Line Wrestling. Oh, yes, Stevie did come and hit that. And Raven wins, of course. But in regards to. Excuse me, gentlemen. Gentlemen in the back. We're not Pavlov's dogs. That was a reference to one of our high school teachers who would get pissed off if we jumped up when the bell rang.

Ah, okay.

Excuse me, gentlemen. Gentlemen.

Back story about Pavlov's dog.

Yeah. We're not Pavlov's dogs.

You know what that means? Yeah, you said six days in a row.

We did not know what it meant, though. We just heard him say we're not Pavlov. Yeah, whatever, man.

He never explained it to you?

No, he never explained it. Yeah, he.

My classes. He did.

Oh, did he?

Yeah, he missed it. Well, you're a year old. You probably learned.

I knew Pavlov dogs already. But no, he never explained it. But you are always. You were in the smart class, so that's why probably thought he had to, like, explain it. I know what I'm talking about.

Yeah.

Insecure to the dumb kids. I don't have to tell them that kind of thing.

Is this. Is this the same teacher that called you guys? Mama Luke's no different guy.

Okay, yeah, that was Joe.

Joe Souza.

Joe did you go to high school?

No, we used to. All. That wasn't one of our big deals back in the day.

Really?

Yeah, we still. We always refer to our teachers by the first name.

No kidding. Oh, okay. Yeah, Dad, I. I.

Phases.

No, no.

Oh, oh, okay. All right. I thought you meant, like, you actually, because.

Yeah, when I say Joe.

When I was in high school, we used to do that, but not. Not to the teacher's face.

Yeah, so when I say Joe, I'm. I'm saying their first name. Yeah, Jamie knows what I'm saying.

Yep.

Right. Yeah. No, I. When I. When I was in high school, we used to be like, oh, yeah, Dennis's class. But it's like we never would have called him Dennis to his face or in front of any teachers, honestly.

Have I. Have I ever mentioned. Davey's gonna know immediately who I'm thinking of? Have I mentioned Ryder?

I Definitely Ryder.

Dick Ryder. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah, Mr. Ryder. And I, of course, as an, had to call him Dick Rider, but his name was Dick Ryder.

Oh, his name actually was Dick Ryder.

Yes.

Poor bastard.

So in Science Classic. And that was the same time as, like.

Rough Riders.

Yeah, exactly.

Big Rider, he was a twin of another writer.

Yeah. Another teacher that kids just on. It's gotta suck.

Oh, I feel bad.

Want to be a teacher, and then the kids just don't.

He left off school, went to another school. I wonder how his career went. Now I'm like, like feel kind of bad because, like, dude, I do the same job as you. You're probably only like nine years older than me. Like.

Oh, really? He wasn't. He wasn't even like one of the old teachers or anything.

Oh, he was brand new.

Poor guy.

Mike ruined his life.

Yeah.

Yeah, Sunday, buddy.

Because, like, by the. By the time we were in school or whatever, like, most. Most guys that were Richard or whatever didn't go by Dick. But, like, you know, people like our dad's age would.

He didn't go by Dick. The kids found out his name was Richard.

Oh, okay. All right.

That was an.

That poor guy.

But you know what?

Be a man and like, oh, like, don't let the kids on you.

I was.

Class management sucked. I didn't help. Damn it. I was a kid. He's an adult.

I can almost honestly say that, like, I don't remember any teachers that were like, the actual teachers that we used to on, but, like, substitute teachers, we would. There was this, this one woman. I feel so bad because she was ancient, like, when we had her as a substitute and we used to just give her so much.

Oh, that's not fair.

I know. And I feel that. I feel bad about it now.

Yeah, the old one's like, leave them alone.

Yeah, this, this lady was like, she was like, retired and then just like came back as a substitute when she was needed. She's, she had to have been like, in her 70s. It's. We were, we were awful to her. I'm blanking on her name, honestly, but she was. I feel bad just thinking about.

Probably, yeah, these kids.

I'm just gonna go to a different school.

Gary Wolf is back again. We had the triple threat come in and attack Pitbull number two, but Gary Wolf is here. Seemingly the pit bulls are back together and they're beating the out of the new triple threat. It's Tommy T shirt man.

Yep.

Yep. All the got their woman back.

He just want to be with us. Brought her in, though. It was nice.

You want two dicks or three dicks?

You're gonna be the next dick Ryder.

Excuse me, guys. Quiet down, please. Excuse me.

You want two dicks?

Gary Wolf's already injured.

Oh, my neck.

I suck.

You know what? Paulie was doing a good job paying me while I was out. I'm just gonna act like I'm hurt. That Brian Lee looks like a little bench in the background. Do not match. Get the out of here.

Yeah, go, you loser.

He just, he looks like he's like a, the fat. A fat uncle of the group, you know?

Like, it's not that he's not even fat, but it's like, yeah, he's, you know, right.

Like the other two have no shirts on. He's got a shirt and a vest on. Like, that's right. Like, I'm not saying he's fat, wearing a vest on. He's just like the, he doesn't fit. Basically, like you said, right?

This triple threat ever fit?

I mean, I, I, I'd argue Douglas Benjamin Lenko were.

Oh, yeah, the original.

Yeah, yeah, the original. It worked. Oh.

Look at his hair. Sucks without the ponytail.

It's like a page boy haircut.

It's like the villain from Kindergarten Coppa.

Hey, look at it. Look at this guy from Demolition man on the side. Yeah, fake Tuco Scorpio.

Oh, the fake one. Oh, what's he doing?

I don't know. Mass recruit is back. Is she gonna get the rude awakening she needs to kick him in the nuts?

Take care of that, man.

Like, awesome.

A little dance.

Dick dancing. Ah, that's great. What an episode this is.

He's he's yelling, oh, my God, it's him. Like, he didn't know who it was. Come on.

Yeah, they knew in the last episode when he came out. Oh, my God.

Oh, my God, it's Rick Rude. No, we all know it's Rick Rude.

You know that. You all right? That was a solid episode.

Yeah. Yeah, it was.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Still ripping off that. Yeah, yeah, I know, I know.

I apologize to Mike Crockett.

All right, so, yeah, good stuff there. We're gonna take a little break and we're gonna look, listen to Ricky Dozen. Right? Ricky.

Ricky.

Ricky Dozen. Yeah.

Keep it coming. Or is that. What do you think it is? Rick. Ricky Dozen or Ricky Dozen.

Because it has an E. Are you.

Buying into the fact that they think it's.

I, I, I, I wouldn't normally think it because if you think about it, they're French and, you know, it's the way it's spelled. But that album cover with the sumo guy, I mean, Ricky. The, the Ricky Dozen was a sumo guy. So that there's just too much coincidence, you know, it's too much to be a coincidence.

Yeah. And they're probably like, we don't want people to think we're totally into wrestling and stuff.

Yeah. Try to hide it.

Right. Yeah. So, like, where Ricky Dozen.

Dozen. Yeah.

Well, yeah. Take a listen to this band. Hey, we played. We played enough. There's more. And I actually, immediately, when I heard, I was like, rick would love this song.

Yeah. And you're right.

All right, so enjoy that. And we'll be back right after that with the next episode of EW Hardcore tv is Dir. You will dip in alone like a moving star I. I've been waiting for you I've been waiting. Fire. Oh.

Keep it coming.

All right, we're Back now for ECW Hardcore TV episode 198 from February 4, 1997. If you're checking this out on Peacock, WWE Network, whatever the it is, at some point, it's season five, episode six. And we are going to watch this, though, on the Internet Archive, so you can watch along with those there. We're gonna have a run time of 57 minutes and 27 seconds. Matches are going to come from Crossing the Line. So we're moving on from House Party and the Scranton Show. And now we're in February 1st. February 1st, 1997, it's ECW arena once again. And this is a big show because this is a big announcement for the upcoming pay per view. Pay per view was such a big deal that time. Remember that guys pay per view. Oh, they're on pay per view also. This means they're good now.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And that kind of like.

Pretty much.

Yeah. And that whole idea of pay per view, what was that, Jimmy?

They're gonna get me to pay for it.

Yeah, they're gonna. Yeah, we pay for something that they're not gonna improve.

I don't pay for the super bowl, but I'll pay for.

Right? Oh, that. Yeah, what a line right there. Jv. I'm gonna. I'm not gonna pay for the super bowl, but I'm gon. That sounds like something your dad would say.

All right, so what. What day is the. Is this? The. It's airing on February 4th, right?

Yes, it's February 4th, 1997. Chill.

For reference.

Right. And it's covering matches from February 1st, right.

So.

Okay, just three days later for reference.

Right?

Go ahead.

No, you.

You're talking reference later that month. So on February 23rd. So what's that like two weeks later, three weeks later? Not quite three weeks later, WCW would put on Super Brawl 7, which. Which had a main event of Hogan versus Piper. Okay. And in February of 1997, you had WWE put. Or WWF at the time putting out Final Four, with the main event being Austin versus Bret Hart versus the Undertaker versus Vader in the four. In the Final Four match.

Awesome match.

Great matches. Absolutely. But that's what I'm saying is for, you know, for reference, ECW is joining those two on pay per view and that's what to be.

The.

The two. The other two big ones were putting out that month. Not that the pay per views this month, but, you know, so they're joining for that, you know, that time. And then obviously the next month we had WrestleMania 13, which has probably one of the best matches ever on WrestleMania. WrestleMania matches ever. You know, Bret Hart versus Stone Cold. So.

Yeah, so good recap there.

Yeah, just figured it'd give, you know, give a little time stamp to. To what. What you. We. The three of us, were dealing with as wrestling fans.

Yep. All right, so you guys ready to get started here? Countdown, sir.

Yes, sir.

All right, I'll give a countdown. Three down to one, say play. When I say play, we all click play. We should have a run time of 57 minutes and 27. Or 26. Is it 26?

I got 26.

I got 26. 57. 26.

Okay, there we go. Three, two, one, play. All right, let's play out because quality is going nuts. We haven't seen this.

Todd Gordon, he.

Wants to be in the rink.

Yep.

That AC unit's about to drop.

Yeah.

Holy. All right, I'll shut up.

And that main event on Sunday night, April 13, will pick that man. Time.

Quick side note, we need to talk about the belts at some point. We know there's new tag belts, but.

Yeah, I noticed last episode, the ECW World Heavyweight title and the TV title were not the new. The newer versions. Yet the tag titles are.

I didn't think they were, but I just wanted to mention. Because it was brought up.

Yep. Yep. That's. That's fair. It's also part of the reason why I brought up the ring skirts is because it was mentioned by Ben Martin.

Like, why am I Brian Martin?

Yeah. You're like, oops, sorry, jv.

Wasn't there a Brian Martin we went to high school with?

Yeah.

Yes.

You went to high school with quite a few Portuguese kids, I would imagine.

Yeah. Yeah. But that's, like his, like, super popular. The Portuguese Kids.

Like, I thought you were gonna say that's his superpowers being Portuguese. What?

No, there's, like, a, like, comedic act known as the Portuguese Kids.

Oh, okay.

And they tours and they're like, pop. Very popular in the Northeast.

Oh, okay.

Called the Portuguese Kids. And they do, like, skits and whatnot. Brian Martin is, like, one of the main guys.

Oh, no kidding.

Yeah. So when I said that, I was just. And he's from forever, of course.

And you guys went to school with him.

He was older.

Church.

Yeah.

Like, youth groups and.

Yep.

Somebody's giving the video toaster a workout.

Yeah. What are you doing here? Oh, the very first. Used to love you pay per view. How do you think everybody watch these shows? They have to pay tapes. Watch this crap. I wasn't crap. Sorry. But to watch every episode. Yeah, that's crap.

Well, I mean, if you listen to superstar Steve Austin, it's a bunch of violent crap.

Yeah. I feel like they're not that wrong.

Yeah.

Team Taz Dojo. All right, so don't do karate and wrestling.

Got some Metallica.

Oh, we were watching. Watching Roar. I think it was Raw.

Roar.

Hey, you always do that.

I know. I suck at that. But we were watching Monday Night Raw, and Ricochet was like shadow boxing before his match. And Jess, now I found it so funny. Jess is just like, why is he practicing boxing if he's wrestling? Like, I never see them box. He's like, does this guy box? I was like, a good point. It is kind of a good point.

Because what did he do in the ring? He did not do that. Right?

No punching.

No punching.

Like flipping and diving back and chops and jumping around. Never not care.

I mean, we, we know he like, he likes some type of box because he's dating that ring announcer girl. I forget her name.

He's always pulling co workers in the industry.

Now it's gonna bother me. I gotta look it up. What is her name?

Look it up. JV justice evaluation is spot on because when I watch wrestling with Alex, it's the same thing. Like they point out we're not thinking.

Of because we're dumb.

They're women and they point out all the flaws and everything. Like. Oh, yeah.

It's like, yeah, they'll point out all our flaws and then just watch like a bunch of women argue on tv. This is entertaining.

No, but I mean with the wrestling though. They'll point out like, what's wrong with that?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like, yeah. Oh, we didn't notice that.

Oh, Samantha Irvin is her name.

All right, go ahead. Go ahead, Rick. Yeah.

Samantha Irvin is her name. Shout out to her. Yep. You'd know her if you saw her.

I know her name.

Yeah, she's the ring announcer.

Oh, okay.

You know, championship wrestling will present the pay per view.

So extreme all the ring announces get banged nowadays, huh?

Yeah, probably.

And they got banged. They get married and. Yep, it's all the way alive. I don't got any other news coming up here. There's a lot of house show results.

Yeah, yeah, we don't have to get that. The. Well, there they do mention in the observer the. There will be a match involving the wrestlers from Mishnoku Pro wrestling in Japan.

Oh.

Whatever sport it is you pertain.

Oh. Urgent update.

If you're a football player, you have got to win the Super Bowl.

No, you're not.

If you're in the Major League Baseball, you must be a World Series champion. And in professional wrestling, if you plan on leaving your mark, on leaving your legacy of elevating yourself to legendary status, what you must do is leave your mark. Pit Bulls and Tommy Dreamer. Oh, we left our mark the first time and now you want to grace the Squared Circles with the greatest six man tag team to ever grace. The Squared Circle. Chris Candido.

Fabulous Free Birds Beg to differ.

And the franchise, Shane Douglas with the sweetest woman in all of wrestling.

No. Chris Candido. The best thing Chris Candido should have ever done was bang Francine just to get to sunny. Yeah, like, guess what? I Francine you. Hopefully he did. That's my dream in my life right now. Not forever, but this moment in time. I wish. Chris, Candido, Francine for the next 45 minutes. Yeah, and. And I hope Shane did too, because he deserves it.

Brian just.

Oh, Brian Lee probably did bang Sunny when she was Tammy Murphy or whatever the.

I'm sure he. I'm sure he did.

Got my back, big man. That goes without saying.

You know, let me tell you, people.

Out there, you know, Pitbull one wants to come back because he had a broken neck and where's he?

Francine looked at him like, are you really kind of pro right now? Shut up, Chris. You're supposed to be a badass, not a. Right now. Stop your skip.

No, but that's. That's part of the allure is that he's. He acts like a badass, but then he whines the entire time.

His voice sounds like Mickey Mouse. South Park.

Yeah, I mean, that's. That's how. How he was in Smoky Mountain too. Was. You know, he was the. The chicken heel.

Hey, what a shitty role to have.

He was.

It's like the wrestling.

Who does your taxes.

From the line?

Jimmy? When is he taxes?

Hey, Dana.

Oh, what was the line, though? He's like trying to get onto the roof. Oh, it was the best.

Yeah. And then we went in safe, people.

No, it wasn't his room. He's locked out of his room.

Yeah.

Steve, Dr. Death Williams returns to singles competition in the United States right here.

In ecw.

Battle of the Tough Guys. What the that mean?

Wasn't that the. The TV show in no holds barred. Battle of the Tough Guys.

What's it. That's a great movie, though.

That's a great movie.

Movie. Are we thinking of the same movie that was bad with Hulk Hogan?

Yeah, I like that movie. It's a childhood favorite.

It is a good. I agree.

I'll give it. Great. Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

If I saw it for the first time ever as an adult and I didn't grow up with Hulk Hogan. And I bet, like, this is stupid, right?

Right?

Oh, yeah.

I love it because I didn't grow up that way. It's like when we were kids and older people like, ah, this is John Wayne. We're like, john Wayne sucks.

You know, Then you watch John Wayne, though. I don't know.

I guess John Wayne ain't a good one because John Wayne was just an actor like OJ And Airplane. Like, OJ Was great in Airplane.

OJ Was in our Airplane.

Yeah, one of them.

But was he.

Nah. Nate Gunn.

They talking about Naked Gun, not Airplane. Yeah, Naked Gun.

Right? Yeah.

Kareem Abdul Jabbar was an airplane.

Oh, yes, yes, yes.

And who's this with the ass hanging out?

Looks like.

No, who's this chick with the ass? Blackjack ass?

I don't know. She's trying to be. She's trying to be Lady Alexander, but she is not.

Yes. I miss Lady Alexandra. I want her back.

Yeah.

I'll bang that ass. I don't.

She had it. She had a dump truck on her.

Is that Missy?

Oh, yeah.

No, I don't know who that is. Oh, she just flash her tits?

No, but here's a little side note. The crowd was chanting to her, show your tits. Show your tits. Show your tits. And then Blue Meanie showed his tits. Awesome.

Took initiative.

I think it's missing. Yeah, it is missing. Ricky Morton. Heal Ricky Morton. I like it. He's a heel because he's up against VWL here in the city. And Ricky Morin, he knows how to. He. He knows how to work this style because he just did it in Smoky Mountain against the gangsters. Yeah, he was awesome.

And. And Stevie's a. A talented enough guy that he can work with Ricky Morton to make sure that, you know that the crowd hates him.

Yeah. Hey, we've been singing this praise lately. Stevie is awesome. One of the most underrated wrestlers there is, but damn. I'll check that ass out. All right, we got Ricky Moore versus Stevie. Who knew we were gonna have this? We're talking about matches from Crossing the line again, February 1, 1997.

Considering it had been three years since they crossed the line the first time.

Yeah, finally.

Again, Again.

Again.

Doing it again and again. Hey, can we get this match going?

Hey, what are we doing here? Let's get this match going.

We're gonna do some arm drags, arm locks, hip toss, drop, bounce. We're gonna get some ECW action here.

Why does this suck right now?

Yeah, the. Is Rob Feinstein acting like six buck out there. There's a little camera.

Rob Feinstein.

I'm not Feinstein. All right, Video.

Because there wasn't any little boys to. Never mind.

Oh, I will not ask about that.

Haven't you mentioned that before? We've had this discussion.

Yeah.

Rob Vines, then.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He was on To Catch a Predator, but not in the good way.

Why don't you take a seat? I think.

Yeah, yeah, exactly which I.

Have a seat. I wanna. I wanna watch that.

I'm sure. I'm sure it's out there somewhere.

Ah, the blue guy.

It's me.

The Blue guy oozing blue cheesemo.

Sounds like. Oh, that's. Look at that. Look at Stevie working with Ricky Mor.

That was a nice arm drag.

I mean, we've been saying it forever. No one wants to listen. Ricky Mar is one of the greatest wrestlers of all time. People just Ricky Morin. I'm joking. I'm being very suck ass.

Ricky Mor, he hated when he came.

Out of TV as a kid.

He needs to cut his hair.

Why is this time machine here?

Ah.

It'S obviously solid worker, but yeah, his look is off. Like, is that what was cute in the South? Because if that's cute and cute in the south, then man, any of those from the south come up here and be all over my dick.

Yeah, exactly. That's why they hated us northerners. Get out of here. You're gonna. All our women. All our hot women.

The.

Is that a fade? What's a fade? Time to cut the mullet. Those aren't cowboy boots. Why do you like Nike?

December.

And Morton goes downstairs.

He probably came up north and cleaned house.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Would be like, oh, it's tough Southerner, this mullet.

Once you're in the. Once you're in the mode of getting. Getting some whatever.

I think the confidence to grow your hair like that.

Exactly.

Like something else.

You know what you're getting and you know how to get it. It's like, hey, I know how to. I. I've been to a hotel enough times. I know how to get what services I want. Show up. Boom.

Get some tang.

You know how to talk to them.

Yeah.

Oh, Atomic drop.

And then no. 1 time's up. And you just move on.

On to the next one.

Hey, this is a good match, though.

Yeah. It started slow, but it's worked. It's worked its way into being a good match.

Oh, pow bomb. That's it. Good, good. He should not win with a jack knife power bomb. I don't want any interference from this bit of bwo. Crowd's into it.

Wow.

See that crowd was pumping up his Stevie kick.

Nailed.

Ricky Morton got the win. This guy's over. Over as a coochie cutter. Did Joe just say that's the Gucci cutter?

That's definitely what he just said.

Yeah.

And he can't take it back.

The kujikara missy. As much as I kind of like the ass hanging out, that's a flat ass.

Yeah.

But if you bend the flat ass over, it's better. But that's just experience talking. She got the going. All right. We're gonna Buy the shirt. We're gonna buy a shirt. All right, let's see what we got for news coming up here. Plant Storm is debuting soon. Oh, we got that to look forward to. Cyber Slam 97s coming up February 22nd.

Yep. The day after I turned 12.

Oh, you know something? Gary Pitbull, number one. I'm gonna beat the pick with you. ECW has come down so hard on me.

Let's listen to this.

Styles has week in and week out spoken so dirty about the franchise.

And Francis, if you try to the audio on these promos.

Okay.

If you can.

Sometimes I don't because we're talking over.

That all this happened.

I had an impeccable reputation in this sport. Nobody questioned the veracity or the background of the franchise. Everybody knew what I said I meant, and they knew they could take my word as gospel. Oh, but not anymore. No, anymore he's the guy that broke Gary Wolf's neck. Didn't matter that just seconds before he took a sweet 117 pound woman and got her slammed through a table super bombed like he would do to any other man. That doesn't count. I don't hear Joey Styles or ECW talking about that. No, it was that the franchise broke his neck. Nobody said a thing about. He came into the ring and attacked me with the halo around his head. I call that stupidity. I covered my ass, I protected myself, but I'm the bad guy for it. So, Gary Wolf, when you talk about settling scores, remember there's a score that's going to be settled from this side as well. And I can't wait to watch you carted off in that ambulance. And no, that they're going to put those screws in your head one more time. And Gary Wolf, if I'm lucky this time, the next time I see you in ECW arena, you'll be being wheeled in permanently. You'll have a friend named Christopher Reeves.

He went there.

Yeah. Gez, hey, it's that time.

Announcement was made official.

What's his song? What's funny? That's a KISS song, right?

What is that?

Yeah, I love.

I love it loud. Yeah.

Every time I see, I see Steve Williams, like, oh yeah, he's badass. And then it's like the.

Wasn't he legitimately tough in real life?

Oh, yeah.

Like a legit wrestler.

Yeah, like legit all the way, badass all the time. Just did not pan out at this point.

Well, he died young, right? Early.

Yeah, I mean, you could argue that. I mean, he wasn't old. Put it that way. He died of cancer.

Oh man.

But yeah, he. He wasn't young young but I mean at the same time it's not like he was like 90. You know.

Hopefully he beats Axel Ron.

I. I would hope so. He was 49 when he passed away. Throat cancer.

All right, so here's a little bit of info I'm gonna jump in on.

Go for it.

Match probably sucks. In regards to this episode, there's notes that Ricky Moore's new girlfriend is a woman who he managed in Memphis. She was. She was a young stripper type. And this resulted in one of the funniest things I've seen in a long time in wrestling. The fans were chanting show your tits. Show your tits. And then blue mini lifts up his shirt. Okay, so I already mentioned that but who the was this girl?

A stripper apparently stripper type.

Not an actual.

It also said more girlfriend wasn't Andre and wasn't Andrea. So who's Andrea?

Andrea is Ricky Martin's girlfriend at the time.

From 90210.

That too.

The old lady.

I was gonna say the 40 year old. The 40 year old teenager.

Probably give the best head.

Probably some 90210 lore out there that agrees with that.

All right. Dr. Death wins. I want those belts. Urgent event update. Oh in the three way dances Friday. We gotta get tickets. All right. February 7th in Downington. The farmer's market where you can also get some corn. The cob strawberries. The return of the mysterious masked man. The rat. Not the ravenous but the vivacious rude. What the up with these problems?

Exclusive information that you won't find anywhere else on the ECW paper.

Ravishing recruit nation domination. Am I talking to myself?

I'm here.

Yeah, me too. Got to watch out or the bum.

Rush your trying to watch the show.

Watch the promos. We're all the way live.

I was scrolling through the notes trying to see if there's any other tidbits.

Yeah.

All the way.

This coolio right Saying this top of that. What's up over here? Oh. See what's going on here. Hey good him doctor Death might as well be dead. You suck. Every time you show up somewhere you things up. I can't believe the whole idea that Dr. That Steve Williams was brought in to be a opponent of stone cold Steve Austin. That just seems like to me and then he lost the brawl for also it didn't happen. Yeah that's stupid. Steve Austin versus him. Get the out of here. That would have ruined song called Steve Austin. Yeah, if that was a Storyline, like.

You could, you could argue that by the time that Doc comes in, Austin's style is very much a brawling style. So it would be, it would make sense. But at the same time, like, I just, I can't see it. Like I, I can't see the, the intrigue, you know?

And it was never set up for the brawl for all to be. Oh, the winner of this faces the champion, right?

Yeah, that too.

They never said that from the start. So there's a lot of in the covering of how that went down.

Exactly. Or like after the fact, like, oh, we were gonna do this, but then it got up. No, you weren't.

No, you weren't because you would have said it up front.

Right.

Or, or if they did think that it's like, oh, he's gonna win, then we can project him. No, I don't care. Steve Williams is already old. No, he's not going up against all, man. No one gives a about Steve Dr. Death Williams at that time. Even if he does win a stupid.

Brawl for all.

I'm glad he got knocked out and sucked. He sucks. He always sucked. I don't care. He always sucked. He sucked in Japan. Sucked.

That.

Yeah, he sucks.

Wow. Yeah.

Yeah, he sucks. Look at him. Sucks here. Sucks everywhere. Well, what's he do? Wrestle like everybody else?

He's a power guy.

Yeah, he's like Barry and Gordy. He's the same thing. And he sucks.

Wow.

The hell of a rant.

Keep going.

What? Well, what the do they do? Just be big beast guys that people that like to think they know wrestling and talk back. Oh, yeah, he's. He was a, he was a big beast guy. Yeah, whatever. They're sidekick characters.

Wow.

Wow.

Stevie. Stevie Richards is better than them.

I agree with that.

And that's my hardcore comment right now.

This, that, that, that is very much your Lance Arne Anderson is not as overrated moment right there.

I'm not saying they're not badass, but.

Okay, all right.

And in terms of like wrestling characters and history, like, whatever. And again, it comes down to they wanted to put Steve Williams up against Austin. No. So that's why I'm taking a lot of umbrage with the whole thought that he could be a main eventer. He never main evented anything in America. Yeah, I don't care about Japan.

Okay, all right.

Nobody cares about Japan.

He was a triple crown champion in Japan.

What the that mean?

He was the champion of all Japan in Japan. Yeah.

And Japan's a series of islands.

You just went full Heel.

Jesus.

Yeah. Yeah.

World War II is over, bro.

Oh, all right, well, I'm the new doctor over here.

No. Okay, I will give you. I'll give you this, Steve. Dr. Death Williams is four years older than Stone Cold. So I mean, by all standards, in 1998, he was put. He was almost 40. And you figure they probably would have been. He would have been almost like 39 by the time they got around to having a main event. So I get that he's the old man or whatever, but like, style, they. I think the styles would have clashed more than anything.

Yeah, it didn't fit with wwe.

Not at all.

Style.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And I mean, I'll even go as far as to say, yeah, like, even in 98, 99, 2000, Doc was definitely on the. The downside of his career. I'm not. I'm not an expert on it, but like the Earth, you know, the late 80s and to early 90s were more his heyday, so to speak. And he never was the most. I mean, he's a. He's a great, like freestyle Greco Roman type wrestler, but I don't know that he was ever like a real technical pro wrestler. It's just more like the. The brute strength power kind of stuff. Like him. What the hell? One of the war games, he presses Gordy over his head like 12 times in a row into the cage. And that's a. I mean, that's a feat of strength.

Look what Raven just did. He suplexed.

Yeah, I saw that.

Flex him right over the top rope.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So, I mean, it's. It's kind of the allure, I guess, of Sell me. Yeah, I know.

Hey, and there's my man right now. Yeah, I did go extreme on this, but it's okay.

Believe it.

He sh.

This is ecw. I'm not talking about history of.

Yeah.

Steve Williams, he shows up and gets his jobs when he can.

Oh, for sure.

Again, doesn't amount to.

Oh.

I. I will say to appease anybody that is currently like me, Steve Williams after death, deserves to be in the hall of Fame before Coco will be where.

That'S the benchmark for anyone getting in now. Like, well, Coco be wearizing.

That's literally. That's literally. Most people's argument is like, poke. Where isn't it? So why isn't this person in it?

I don't. I do not not like Steve Williams. I'm just riffing.

Yeah.

Doing a podcast.

Is the crown chanting. What the.

Yeah, probably. Stevie is a superstar. Come on. Yeah, yeah. The Problem is when does Stevie Super Kick Raven win the title? That's the problem.

Right?

Like, oh yeah, he's over big time. Keeps this goof what in the title. I don't believe it.

Call now.

Call now for the new T shirt.

Yeah. Buy the shirt.

Buy the shirt. Buy the shirt. Here we go again.

Was the greatest tag team match of all time.

Saturn looks like he's reading off a cue card.

He does, because he is.

This Saturday night we have an opportunity.

I feel like I'm into Continental Champion right now.

Yeah.

I'm just happy to have this belt for all.

Prove in your hearts that we are the best tag team in the world. And we are the best team in the world.

Why did Cross never get a chance?

I don't know. I mean, I don't even know like if he actually is crazy, you know. Like I, I, I don't mean any disrespect to the man, but he had a, he had a look. I mean even when he was kind of thick, he still was like £300. But he can fly like a light heavyweight, you know.

Yeah, he had the skill set.

Yeah.

Yes. Why he wouldn't been brought in.

Yeah. Oh, jv, like what about him wouldn't have worked. That would have like warranted giving him a chance.

Right, that's what I'm saying. Like even like you'd figure WCW took take Saturn, why wouldn't they take Cronus too?

All right. Exactly.

Unless he's like difficult to work with or something.

I doubt it.

Right. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Didn't seem like that.

I mean you can't even say like he was old because he wasn't. Oh, he's he's like 20. He's like 27, 28 here. Saturn was, Saturn was 31. So.

ECW Home Video presents Extreme Warfare Volume 2 TV the Most Dangerous SC all.

Right, we got one more big match coming up. It's Sandman versus Devon Dudley and Mer. I don't know if you remember, but this is a big time match.

Yep.

This is going to change the trajectory of the D.

Takes on Terry.

Bam. Bam.

Gory.

Oh, we got some kimono dance on the top. All right, guys, forget about me pissing you off. Kimona has nice T. Everybody agrees. Everybody agrees to that, right? Yay.

Yeah.

Mike PR is right. Mike BR is right. Sorry. We love Dr. Death. How can you say that?

No, I, I won't, I won't argue with you completely. I'm the guy that's, you know, if more of A fan of Japanese pro wrestling? I guess so, you know.

What, are you getting tickled over there?

Dude, it's. It's quarter of one in the morning. I'm getting punch drums. You know.

About the John Club ECW on this?

Yeah.

What the is this?

What is this song?

Is this like.

What is this? What the is this?

That was like the band that sings Love Shack. All right, we're into the action here and this is going to wrap up the show. It's Devon. He's. He's standing on the second rope. He's ready to fight. He's going up against the same man. He's gonna take his sweet ass time. Does he have a to bring him?

And there is the extreme icon himself. Very clearly a Budweiser can in his hand.

Oh, yeah, I just shaking it though. I cannot believe that his hair is that color.

Yeah, it's unnaturally yellow.

It looks like he's out of like Futurama or something.

Matt groaning Creat did he actually do Futurama?

I don't know. I was thinking, guys, I don't know if you'd be into this because we haven't done this.

Okay.

But I think, like, maybe at some point some special episodes, just like year and recap of 93, 94, 95, 96. It's like a special episode of us talking you out highlights and of each year.

Yeah, like. Like you guys did with the Bottom line cast when you did like the best of 96 or whatever. Y.

You know, not in the immediate future, but at some point just. Yeah, do little specials. Sprinkle them in there.

Yeah, well, I mean, not only that, but in the future. Again, just my thought was for a special episode, kind of like what you guys did with the Stone Cold metal album. There's two ECW entrance theme CDs that. That are released, so could always do one of those type of things.

Sure. Okay.

Y.

Swinging a cane, drinking a beer and smoking a cigarette. What a comment.

That's.

Yeah, just spits in the crowd.

That one dude in the front row is just like dodging the beer.

Devon's like, you came to that.

Oh, oh, he bent that time.

Devon trying to knock the Sandman out. Another right hand right between the eyes. Diva and Dudley trying to knock the block off of the Sandman.

On hey, man's working slow.

She got hit. I think she had, but I think Sandman butted heads with her.

Oh.

Takes the most random bump. I love it.

His legs just threw up in the air.

Has no regard for his own Personal safety.

Hits the steel.

Man. What are you guys at? You have Devon just slammed up and got around?

Yeah, he's like holding his groin and back and.

Okay, all right.

Little kids tapping him on the back.

Sandman just hit. Hit him with something. A can of something.

Yeah, soda. As Joey says, that's not much of a clothesline.

No, that was. That was a shitty clothesline.

Look at that.

Oh, my God. You see that guy? Yeah.

Sandman.

Yep.

That's a big face of Sandman. That's awesome.

It was like, holy shirt with Sandman screen printed on it.

Yeah, probably his brother.

Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised.

That hair is out of control right now. The color, I don't know if my. It's like colors are all up.

Like, baby.

It's like booming.

Yeah, it's like bright yellowy orange. Like golden.

Yeah.

On my. On my monitor. Is that what you're saying?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay. That guy with a Larry Bird jersey right there.

There you go.

The table suplex.

Table suit. Yeah, Joe was calling it that. Table suplex. JV. Other than Larry Bird here in 1997, what jerseys would Celtics fans be wearing?

What year?

97. Yeah.

Antoine Walker.

That's what I. I knew you'd say that. It's March. No, not March. It's. Yeah, it's February. About to start. New season. Right. So why wouldn't it be mid season?

Oh, Antoine Walker, D. Brown.

Walter Makati. Probably D. Brown still. Yeah.

Yeah. Was Dominique Wilkins in the. On the Celtics at that 97.

Would have been Ron Mercer.

Ron Mercer, Yeah.

So probably Chauncey Billups. I forget. He might have gotten traded by then.

I forget.

But really, like mainstream.

Yeah, that's what I mean.

Yeah.

Antoine Walker. Kevin McHale.

Antoine for three.

Yeah. Hi, bird.

Remember watching little Celtics, Celtics games on your little ass tv?

Yeah.

All right. See, man, Pete's Divon. I don't know why it took him so long, but it did. Is Joel Garner. What's this have to say? Let's. Let's hear him. They don't give a. About Garner.

No.

Oh, I heard an F word.

Yeah, I did too.

Not the. Not the. The other. There you go. Joe Gardner claiming the non winner one.

So I just looked that up. The 97 Celtics, by this point in the mid season, they had already sent D. Brown to the Raptors along with Chauncey Billups. And that's when they got Kenny Anderson, Popeye Jones and Zan Tabak.

I was like high on him.

Yeah. And then Dana Barrows was still playing as well.

Oh, oh, big turn here.

Oh.

Bubba is turning.

Yep.

Spike is like, what the going on. Spike's gonna get for the first time in many times. So's gonna tell him one day.

Girlfriend.

Girlfriend's a bimbo.

Girlfriend's a bimbo. Yeah, you do a much better Stone Cold than I do.

The girlfriend's a bimbo. Your girlfriend's a slow back hoe. Know what's coming. Debut.

Okay. Oh, what a iconic move.

First time 3D. That's awesome.

Now that stands the test of time.

And now we got the real Dudley Boys.

Yep.

As a tag team. They're being the out of Sandman. That's awesome. This is awesome. Yeah, I'm saying it.

Here comes JV's favorite team.

Oh, they suck.

I know.

Yeah. They're not as cool anymore.

No, they're not cool at all.

They were at first for me.

No, I. No, I. I did. I do agree. I did like them coming in and like. Oh, yeah. But I think we can all agree, like, Public Enemy was better than them.

Yes, yes.

As a tag team.

Some. Some of the weapons they come up with are. Are entertaining, but for the most part, like, yeah, Public Enemy is so much better.

Well, in the amount of times that they got in trouble and had to be off tv.

Yeah.

It's like, yeah, I don't really appreciate it because you guys were shitty employees.

Right.

Yep.

So I'm glad that the Dudley Boys are formed here and essentially probably gonna just send gangsters out of Rick, you know, better than me. But the gangsters don't last much longer. Right. As the gang says.

No, no, part. Part of that is because one of the stipulations for ECW getting on pay per view was that they had to promise that New Jack wouldn't appear. And so basically they had to find a way to kind of write the eliminators off so that people wouldn't wonder why. Why are they not challenging for the tag titles or whatever when we're seeing. Obviously they're like a feud going. But. Yeah. Then I don't know happens and Mustafa leaves. I believe you're right.

And then New Jack teams up with Chronus. Right.

Eventually. Because Saturn is not long for ECW either.

All right, and that wraps up the next episode here that we just covered. Easter re hardcore TV 198. February 4, 1997. And yeah, things are changing. Things are moving around here.

Falling into place.

Yeah. As we're building to the pay per view. And yeah, that was fun. I. I made some enemies, probably. I Think Rick Bibi is one of them. Like what? Hey, I need to go on a rant because like you said, it's my Arn Anderson rant.

Yeah.

You know, JV was the one that was on on Anson.

Yeah, I on him.

I know he started that.

I own it.

And I've JV's changed over the over time on that. But yeah, in terms of wrestling. Yeah, I'm sticking with that. Fine. Good. You're in a good amateur wrestler. Yeah, whatever. I won't rehash it off Dr. Death, Steve Williams. You didn't have. You shouldn't even have that name because there was a better person that had that name. Okay. Anyway, that's the bottom line because it's time to get the out of here. All right, so we're gonna wrap things up. So we'll be right back. Oh, we're back now for the Extreme Used to Be live Cast wrap up. And we'll be back in two weeks with the next episode of the Extreme ECW Live Cast. And we'll be covering ECW Heart Card TV 199 and 200. 200. Yay. 200 episodes of covering EW hardcore TV. And we are covering February 11th and the 18th of 1997. So please check us out with that. We'll be back in two weeks. But also check out JV and I on the Bottom Line wrestling cast where we have covering the Crips own cold Steve Austin. And we are back covering Stunning Steve Austin. So we are covering episode 17, which is our return after the Hollywood Blondes to his single run. And he's on the return to the Battle bowl. And we're covering November of 1993. So that's what we have coming up. Please reach out to us on social media. You can follow us on X, Facebook, whatever the Follow me Mike Pru at NPRU83. Paul JV at John Van Damage. Follow Rick BB at Leo Y85. Also check out Rick Baby's podcast Hybrid Wrestling Cast at Hybrid Unscore Cast. And then of course follow us at Extreme Cast. Thanks guys for listening. Thank you BTT Patreon members for subscribing to us and being a part of this. And thank you for all that, Davey. Rick, anything else to say before we head on out here? All right, guys, so long. Every day, never even I.