It's a new year. Dave Douglas. Oh, my God.

I've traveled with this guy. I've trained with them, I've broken bread with them. And I choked him out. The final battle between Raven and Tommy Dreamer. You did your job and ran the fuckers off. Look at that. From the twisted steel section of Dudleyville. Extreme Championship Wrestling has been thrown into disarray. This, my friends, is E C W.

Welcome to the Extreme ECW live cast. And this week, we are finally bringing you the first Pay per view special ECW barely legal 1997. Guys, finally we're here. Rick, we made it. Yes. How you guys doing?

Pretty well, bro.

I mean, Rick's been really waiting for it.

Yeah.

Are we ever gonna get to this? Yes. We finally got to it.

Finally.

Yeah, I. Well, part of me wanted to do that, but I was like, I can't do it. But JV did it, so thanks. Finally. Of course, I have to jump on it and do it too, but, yeah, here we are. And what we're gonna do, though, we're gonna break it in two parts because, hey, this is long and now you don't want us doing this all night because then it'll suck. So let's just do it.

Will be awful.

Yeah, we want to save the good second half of this for another recording, right? And that'll. That'll come soon. So we're doing the first half here of ECW barely legal from April 13, 1997. The first ECW pay per view from the ECW arena in Pennsylvania. You know, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. So, yeah, that's what we're getting into. And guys, anything you want to say before we just go through, you know, the.

No.

All right, so guys, thanks for following us as always and being BTT members. Please give us a follow at the Extreme cast on X. Follow me mark Pro at MPRU 83. Well, JV at John Van Damage and follow Rick BB at Le Hawaii 85. Also check out JV and I on the Bottom Line Wrestling cast. The career of Stone Cold Steve Austin, where we have covered the entire career of Stone Cold Steve Austin. And also currently covering some stunning Steve Austin. We've covered his early run as TV champion. We've covered the Hollywood Blondes. And now we're into his US title run with Colonel Robert Parker by his side. So check those out at Bottom Line Cast on X, Twitter, whatever the. You know. So, hey, here we are, it's Barely Legal. And, you know, we're going to check this out on our Google Drive that we have, but if anybody wants to watch along with us. You could probably just go on Peacock. Check out the Barely Legal version there. It's pretty similar, but what we have is a little different.

And there is archive. Yeah. And although I will preface this by saying, if you are going to go on archive.org because be very cautious of how you word your search terms because there also is Barely Legal magazine on there. That is pornography. So, I mean, obviously, if that's what you want to look up, by all means, no judgment. But just if you're going to, you know, watch along, I don't want you to get sidetracked.

Hey, you're not going to be watching along. You'll be walking the dog along. Remember that phrase, walking the dog.

Walking the dog.

What the. I'm old. All right.

Showing your age, Brewster. Showing your age.

I got that from Dawson's Creek. You remember that?

That's where you heard walking the dog.

Yeah, that's where I first heard walking the dog. Yeah. Joshua Jackson played character Pacey something. But, yeah, he said, oh, I'm gonna go walk the dog. Yeah. Talking about jerking off.

Yeah.

Like, oh, okay. So anyway. Yeah, well, we're not gonna be walking a dog and jerking off at this point, except for maybe checking out Barely Legal later.

Hey, hey, hey.

Checking out PDF porn.

On PDF porn. I. I know where to find pornhub, thank you very much.

But, you know, to continue on with this PDF and the archives. No, there's also a version of the Barely Legal program that's available on the archive as well. So you can search that up. Just go Barely Legal program. And I think you just search it that way and you find it, but it has the whole thing. Rick, did you ever check that out?

I did, I did.

Program.

Very, very good. Yeah, yeah. For. For a first. I say a first attempt. You know, obviously they had a magazine. Yeah, they had some. And they had somebody that knew what the. They were doing. You put it together. Because if you've ever seen. I know on archive.org there's a couple of, like, random arena show programs and they're just like. It looks like, you know, somebody xeroxed, you know, wrote something up in, you know, Microsoft Word in 1995 or whatever, put some pictures in it and then just xeroxed it. Like it's not a professional looking program at all, which is fine because, you know, 1995, ECW, who needs to be professional? But. But for a first pay per view and something like that, it's well done, you know?

Yeah. Yeah, I would say so. So I Think it's worth checking out if you just go to the archive.org and search that up. Pretty cool. All right, so from there, let's move on now to what we're going to get to. We're gonna, like I said, cover the first half. So we got three matches on tap, actually four. We're gonna take a little break, but we're gonna cover the main. The first match, what is the tag team title match, which is the Dudley Boys versus the Eliminators. Rob Van Dam versus Lance Storm. We got the BWO Japan version against. Against some other Japanese wrestlers. We've already seen this match, but it's Graham Hamada, Grand Sasuke. But then we get a surprise mystery partner, and I don't know how to say his name. Rick, do you know how to say his name?

Masato Yukashuji.

Better than I could do.

Yeah.

Yeah. Who do you replace, though? It was.

He replaced Grand Nanawa.

Yeah. Great. Okay. Yeah.

Who was injured.

Right. So a little slight change in what the match was supposed to be, but still I think it'll be good nonetheless. And then we're gonna wrap up with the TV title match. Big match, big feud building up for months. Shane Douglas versus Pitbull number two. So that'll be what we cover here on the first half of Barely Legal, and then we'll get to the second half next time. All right, so you guys all set up? Ready to go? Yep.

Yep.

Okay. We're all on the drive, right?

We are.

We should have. ECW coming up. Order now. So we got the actual pay per view version here, thanks to our good friend Richard Land, of course.

What do you mean, pay per view?

Order now.

That's. Oh, yeah, now I see it.

Never mind.

No, my.

Never mind. Never mind. Thumbnail.

The thumbnail thing wasn't right.

Yeah, Coming up next. Order now. Yep, I got that now.

All right, so I'll give a countdown three down to one. Now say play. When I say play, we all click play. 3, 2, 1. Play.

On the floor.

Gotta.

Gotta get up, get down.

Hey, who's that guy? Is that. Hey, what was that about?

It's. That's. I'm guessing that's either Ron Buffon or Charlie, one of the production guys, one of the producers. Yeah, yeah. Didn't realize that. Hey up. Hey, we're alive review.

That's how much out this was immediately.

The audio right now sounds like too, because they're obviously didn't know what they were doing. So you get like Joey's microphone isn't going through the Actual production, it's just over the pa, Right?

That's what I like about this version is we get to actually hear how shitty it is.

Yes.

Because I think if we watch it on the network, it's a lot better than this.

Probably.

Pretty sure.

Yeah. Because it's the master tape. You know, you're right.

It's remastered. It's a lot of cut out.

Did you hear the shitty Woo. Now comes Devon.

That. Yeah, Devon looking good with his butt with his title there and his buddy boy back there sign guy.

You still suck.

You still suck.

That's what his sign said.

Yeah, yeah, I know, Rick. I know. You weren't talking about me.

No, no, no. Well, occasionally you seem to fall behind, so, you know, true.

I'm trying not to here.

Yeah, yeah.

Where are we at six minutes. Dude. I was like, worrying because two nights ago when I was doing fantasy drafts, I was getting kicked out of draft like every two seconds and my wife Alex was drafting at the same time. We were both getting kicked out simultaneously. Like, what the hell is going on with our Internet? Then after the draft, I unplugged the router and plugged it back there and it worked again.

Yeah.

But still I was afraid, though, tonight it's like, ah, don't tell me I'm gonna be cutting out. All right, so we got big, you, Devon, and I like the. The silhouettes of the middle fingers that we're seeing here.

Yeah, it's a good.

It's a good view. All right, Steven's telling them to shut the up. We got Joe Gerner looking good here. He's ready to go.

And number five, bow down to the man that's in the ring right now. If I said it once, I said it a billion times.

All right, so we have going on here. We've culminated to a pay per view. Rick, what do you think of the Dudley Boys at this point as tag team champions? You know, starting off this pay per view? Like, are they in the right spot? I. I think they are.

I mean, I think so. The. The only. The only problem, I guess I could say that I have with it is for the people that kind of got. Got the pay per view without having been following ecw, you know, kind of like an, oh, hey, this is interesting. There's a lot of controversy. Whatever. It was only 20 bucks. Let me try this. You get these guys out and there's no explanation as to who they are, why the crowd is saying you, Divon, and, you know, throwing up middle fingers at him and then why he calls Them garbage. So it's like, it's kind of a necessary evil that whoever the first person you put out is, you either have to way over explain what's going on, or you just kind of let them figure it out on their own.

Yeah.

I guess the Dudleys are probably the best team to do that with because at least you can tell, like, these guys, everybody hates them, even if you don't know why.

Yeah, that's a good point. Like, yeah, apparently people hate them, so I'm gonna hate them, too, right? Well, the hate people at that time, too, is like, if you hate them, you like them too, Right. And the way they did that cold open. I think, you know, we're talking over right now, the opening promo package. They should have played that to start.

Yeah.

In my opinion, just to give everybody who ordered it a little glimpse of everything and then cut to this.

Right. Yeah, they tried to do it. Like, they open hardcore tv or they open.

Right.

Some of the. The super shows where it's Joey in the center, but it. Again, it doesn't. It would have. I think the video package would have worked better. And then open to Joey, you know.

Yep. Totally agree.

Your pleasure.

All right, let's see what Joel Gner has to say.

Yep.

Hey, jv. Joe Gartner. Which form of a politician does he remind you of?

Wolf Flanagan.

Yep. He'd probably appreciate that, too. Yeah. Yeah, he loves wrestling. So this guy we're talking about, Wolf Lanigan, he. He runs, like, a weed place. He's having the Godfather come to Florida. Did he already come, or is it in a couple weeks?

I think it's a couple weeks sometimes end of September, I think.

I don't know.

I just heard. I didn't really care enough to, like.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

When is it? Because I have no interest in going.

Yeah, I'm not going.

That dispenser is just in a shitty location. It's not in, like, the most optimal spot for next time.

Sawyer.

Yeah.

What the is this? This is not their music.

No champions.

The Dudley.

It did sound like Tom Sawyer.

It did, right?

No, it's not.

What a song.

Trying to think what they would have been using at this point.

This is the. This is the original version, though. Like.

Yeah.

What the fuck song is this? Saturn and Cronus. The eliminators.

And they're. They're sparkly pink tights now, jv.

Yes.

At one point we went back, we watched an old episode before you even were into ecw, and you didn't like the eliminations. Do you remember that long time ago.

Hell no, I don't remember that. No, I remember, but I believe I did. I didn't.

Yeah, you, you didn't like them at first. So what do you like about them now? Like mostly now that you've seen them. Cronus, you like how impressive of a.

Big man Cronus is? Yeah, they're honestly, they're, they complement each other well.

But I totally agree.

I never realized how good Cronus is.

Elimination.

I mean, Saturn stands out because he looks like the wrestler, right? He's in shape and whatever.

Well, yeah, impressed me in the lightweight division or cruiserweight division, whatever he was saying.

Yo. Yeah. When he spent some time in WCW and then wwe.

Yeah, that's how I know from wcw.

But yeah, I, I, I'm right with you. Cronus is what made me like this team when I was watching it. It's like, look at that big dude. Just who freaking cot wheels and like that handstands.

And Rick, you mentioned he did something like super impressive. Did we see it already? He did something off like the top rope.

Yeah, he actually, during this match, he'll be doing some pretty impressive. So keep it, keep an eye out on him. Rockerplex right there.

Yeah. Why the Cronus not ever get a shot anywhere? You up his life or something like, he must have talked about this at.

Some point, but I, I don't honestly remember because I did the, you know, QCC on him. But I, I don't even, I don't know whether it was like he was just kind of too wacky for, for people or if he was a flake or, or I don't think he got injured. I don't think it was anything like that. But obviously he, you know, he doesn't go to WCW when Saturn goes.

All right, it'll go anywhere.

Right. He goes to xpw, teams up with freaking homeless Jack.

Yeah, almost homeless Jimmy. Who's that?

Isn't it homeless in xbw? An xbw?

Oh, okay, we're not doing a podcast on that.

No, no, no, no.

Now, just from my own recollection of watching this pay per view for the first time, because I did have my grandparents auto all of this for me and I was super excited. And I had watched ECW shows numerous times and had bought tapes. I expected more, and I've said this before, but I expected more of the pay per view than what we got. I don't know why. I guess it's because I grew up watching WWF that I thought, oh, it's pay per view, so it's gonna be like some super event. It's gonna have like, great production value, whatever, you know.

Right.

And then it's just another ECW arena show.

Yes, pretty. Pretty much.

It kind of fell flat to me. I was like, ah, it's just another show. That's not that I didn't like it. It's just I. I thought, oh, this is. You guys are gonna become big time now because you're on Pay Per View again. Remember, I'm a kid at this point. Yes, but that's what I thought. Like, ah, it's just another ECW show.

All right, jv.

Which is a big deal for them. All right. You know, Sorry.

Something impressive is coming up for Kronos. That's why I just didn't want JV to miss.

Oh, okay. Yeah. Let's see.

Okay, so Saturn doing the assisted backflip over the top rope. Moonsault.

Cornice goes over.

That's not it.

No, no, no, no.

I mean, I guess he doesn't really throw Saturn because.

No, he kind of gave Saturn ten fingers to do the moonsault, but yeah. There. Here comes Cronus.

There it is.

Oh, wow. The fact he just clears the top rope on a backflip is crazy.

No, no hands clears the top rope.

Awesome.

Crazy.

And he's close to, if not over £300.

He's gonna be 260.

Yeah, but he's. He's way heavier than anybody that size should be able to do that, you know.

Oh, actually, yeah, he's probably like 62 or something. Right?

Right. Yeah, yeah, he's not. He's not a short man.

He's bigger than Bubba.

Yeah.

He's almost as tall. Yeah, he's probably as tall as. There he goes again.

Look at that.

I love it.

The great Muda type handspring elbow.

Yeah. Eliminate is one of the most underrated teams in history, I think.

Saturn with his amazing elbow drop.

I wish they could have been a team in WCW or wwf.

Yep.

Coming as.

Especially during the attitude effort.

Right. They fit the mold of attitude. Right.

Like you could have thrown them in with the hardies, the Dudleys.

Oh, yeah, yeah, you could have. You could have had the. Like them in ladder matches and table matches.

And seeing Cronus going off a ladder.

Oh, yeah.

His whole lore changes.

Holy shit. Oh, what a springboard from Saturn. Holy shit.

Yeah, that was. That was pretty nasty too.

It was more than halfway across the ring on that.

And I believe we're about to see another impressive thing with Cronus. Yep. Watch this.

Look at this. Wow.

That's Crazy. That's insane.

That. That too cool. Scorpio, right?

And that was clean. Like, that was the cleanest tuck ever.

Look at this crowd's appreciation.

That was too cold. Scorpio's whole career, that movie. Because he could do that. How did. Like, how did he. How did Paul Heyman. I'll see this guy as like a single star.

That's a good point, man.

Do not know.

Yes. Mike Skills, maybe. Yeah, all he does is laugh.

He's just like.

Hugh Morris. Yeah, yeah, maybe. I don't know what his backstory is. Total elimination. Oh, yeah, there you go.

They win champions.

Nice.

Win the titles, regain the titles.

Yep.

Right decision was made here.

Hey.

Yeah, Right. Team one.

Yep. Good way to stop the show.

Yep. Yeah, you put on a. You put on a team that's gonna do crazy, you know, Impressive. The crowd's gonna pop for, and it's gonna make everybody look good. Mm.

Now what they need to do is get Joel Gartner in there.

Oh, he's in there.

Okay, that's corners. What is Icy? Title Tag team belt. There we go. All right, him up. Here we go. Him up. Chance.

Yep.

Well, yourself, Joe, to 83.

And still ECW. Tag team champions of the world. And more importantly than that, the best tag team in the world jerk off today. Bubba Ray and D.

I don't understand.

He's gonna jerk off.

Okay. Not really gonna get the title back, are they?

No, no, no, no, no.

He's trying to proclaim that, hey, they won.

Yeah, he's.

He's the.

The personal ring announcer of the Dudleys, basically.

Oh, Cronus talking. Yeah. And they are the best tag team because who's. Who else is tag team champions at this point in April 1997.

Yeah, because this is right around WrestleMania 13. Probably the outsider still.

Yeah, it's probably right.

Somebody call his parents, tell him he's not coming home ever. If you want to talk about Extreme Extreme, tonight we are going to have a three way dance. Three men in the same ring at the same time. And the winner gets a shot at Raven and the World Heavyweight Championship. One of the three contenders in that matchup is the Extreme icon himself, The Sandman.

I want in. The Bulldog. Is that what you said, Rick? I wanted the Bulldog.

Yeah. Owen and the Bulldog would have been WWF Tag champions. And yeah, the outsiders were wcw. They had won them in February.

Sold out, whatever it was.

No, on a nitro.

I was on a nitro.

Yeah, yeah, because they had lost. They had lost them at Super Brawl 7. And then they got the titles back the night, the next night or whatever.

Kick ass.

Son of a.

In the ecw.

Oh, we're getting some Sandman clips there. Balls of hone and taking a drop there. Three Way Dance. Stevie Richards, Terry Funk. Sandman. All right, so what do we have coming up? We got Rob Van Dam versus Lance Storm coming up in the next match, but they're hyping the main events here.

Originally, though, it was supposed to be Chris Candido and Lance Storm, but he got hurt.

Yes, yes. Joey's Joe's talking about that right now.

Oh, yeah.

That would have been great match.

Yep. This. This is a good promo from. From Candido.

Love Candido. Swarmy voice is awesome. Yeah, he was.

Yeah, him and. Him and Johnny. Bald spot.

Yeah. Blonde Suicide Blondes.

I love. I love that. He's like. He's like, I was with my buddy Dr. Tom, and I was with my girl, and I can't say her name because Bruce will get mad.

Oh, man, this guy would have been great for wrestling today.

He was. As we've said before.

If you just.

Say Sapu and Taz deserve to be the main event or don't.

I missed it.

I think he was. I think he was saying something about, like, Sabu and Sabu and Taz are the main. Are the main event. You know, they just hate each other. Let them come kill each other. I should be in the main event or something like that.

Okay.

Okay.

Like, basically, like, they're just gonna come out here and kill each other, but I'm gonna actually put on a real mask. Yeah.

I love how he's like, I've been here from the start. Although Terry Funk really was.

Yeah.

And here, Lance, his.

His epic rat tail.

That's right. It's a rat tail, not a ponytail.

Yeah, you'll see it there. See, look at that.

That's glorious.

Storm is an outstanding young athlete.

You get a golf club there.

Yeah.

Like. Yeah, we like you a little bit there. I am. We got five.

We don't know what to make of you yet. Yeah. And now we get a JV's favorite wrestler.

Yes. If his boy.

Yep.

R V D. When do they change?

You mean change it to Pantera?

What is it? Yeah, Pantera. Yeah.

I think it's at some point this back. No, I was gonna say I think it's some point next year. I could be wrong that, though. But it's not. It's not that far off. But it's also not like, oh, this is the show, obviously.

What song are we hearing right now? I Can't even make it out. I like it.

Yeah, it's not bad. Note, RVD has no wrist protectors or wrist tape or anything on.

Look at him, Superstar. Look at the crowd.

Yep, they're chanting his name.

Calgary, Alberta, Canada, weighing at 230 pounds.

Lance Gore.

Weighing at 235 pounds.

From Battle Creek, Michigan, Rob Vanguard. Now the whole thing of like, his name Rob Van Dam came from. He looks like John Claude Van Damme. I don't think so. Like, I get the thing that he can split his legs like Jean Claude Van Damme. But do you think he looks like Jean Claude Van Damme?

A little bit, yeah.

You think so?

Yeah, a little bit. I think it's his forehead, to be honest.

The happy. His forehead.

Like his head. His head shapes. I don't know this. He does kind of look like Jean Claude Van Damme.

Hey, yeah, like short hair or something. I don't know.

John Claude Van Damme did. Yeah. I think it's also in a couple movies. But they have the same body type too, in a way. Way.

Yeah.

Like the eyes are kind of the same. Let me look up a picture.

Yeah.

Oh, John Claude looks totally like, well, ethnic, like, whereas Rob Van Dam just looks like a white dude.

Yeah, dude, it's kind of close. What, what stands out is, yeah, Rob Van Dan has dimples. It doesn't look like Jean Claude. Van Damme does. But yeah, dude, it's like the forehead. They got a picture side by side. It looks like it's Van Damme from Hard Target. I think that's when he had long hair. The eyes are kind of the same. Yes, they kind of look alike. And then to Rick's point, the body types help a lot, but this is just their faces.

I could be wrong. I just always thought, like, I don't know, I mean, I get it. Like does the splits and whatnot as.

As he's older now though. They don't look alike.

Oh, definitely.

Yeah, but younger. Like. Yeah, like to bear a younger picture of Van Damme with a younger picture.

Of.

The other Van Damme. Both Van Dams.

Yeah, I, Yeah, I think if you look at like a picture of Rob Van dam from like 91, 92, he probably looks a lot, a lot more like. Like Jean Claude Van Damme.

Yeah, yeah.

They're not identical, but like there's no the similarities.

I just happen to have an issue of the wrestler that he's in from 92 and I'm pretty sure.

By your bedside, what the hell's going on?

No, Right next to. Right next to my computer.

Okay.

The Internet mic.

Yeah, he's got. He's got a mullet. And at that point, like the shaved. You know, shaved sides, not long. Long, but longer than. Not long and not in a ponytail. So more like what Jean Claude Van Damme had for a hairstyle. No, he doesn't. He doesn't look like a.

I don't want to take away from this. Good match. But you said. Oh, it's not struck with nerve.

You can't say they don't look alike.

I guess they do.

There are similarities.

I think all this is leaving.

Comparing like.

Like.

I don't know, like a RVD and like Apollo creep. Like, the similarities.

But what I was gonna say is I. Maybe I was just leading to this. Do you guys remember Double Impact?

Yeah. Yeah.

Remember now, this is like way off the beaten pass. I get John Claude Van Damme as a kid in that movie. It's the goofiest thing. Like, the kid can't even speak English. He's like. And then all of a sudden, he's Jean Claude Van Damme. It's like, what's up with this kid?

Oh, I know. Oh, you're saying, like, from a casting perspective, right?

Yeah, it's like, who the is this kid? He, like, gets beat up and then his friend helps him out. And I think it's double impact that he's. The kid gets speed up.

I don't think it's that one.

Oh, no. You know what I'm talking about, though. I know.

Yeah, I know what movie it's.

Yeah, yeah. I can't remember what the name of it is. That looked rough.

He's getting trained by the Asian dude.

Yes. Yeah. Oh, it's blood sport. It's bloodsport, right?

No, it's not. Kickboxer. Yeah, kickboxer.

Kickboxer. Okay. Yeah, it's. It's one where.

Gets up by tong po. I know my Sean movies, bro. No, you're wrong. I'll bet you entire fantasy roster.

Blood sport.

That's bloodsport. Yes. Now it's not. Tong po is kickboxer.

All right, I'm not betting anything. I'll just take your word. Listen to this. You can correct this.

I mean, they're both kind of similar stories, so I can. Yeah, I see what you're saying.

All right, that was fun. Let's get back to the action.

Chun Lee is bloodsport and tong po is kickboxer.

Right?

The same guy.

No, different actors.

Same Asian guy?

Nah, different.

I used to think they were the.

Same when I was a kid, though.

Did you just see Rob Van Dam just throw the chair recklessly at Lance Storms head?

Missed it.

I just saw him drop the chair in the middle of the ring.

Yeah. No, no, no, he. He threw it and it just like. No hand. Lance Storm didn't have his hands up or anything and it just hit him in the fucking head.

I missed it. Did. Did Lance just suplex them all to the chair?

Yeah.

All right. Make sure we're in the same spot. Yeah. Despite all of Jean Claude talk, this match is pretty damn good.

Yeah, I mean, I would have expected it to be good.

All right. A nice wet Storm. So good, so crisp.

He's in the right place at the right time. That was. That was kind of a shitty splash in the corner, but whatever.

Now, Rick, have you heard Bruce Bridges take on Bailey Legal?

I have. I don't remember.

What's he not like?

Yeah, basically it doesn't. Obviously I don't like it, but his take is that this exposed them for being just kind of shitty.

Yeah. And I mean, I'm not, I'm not agreeing.

Which I get because of what I was saying before. It's like, oh, yeah, I thought it was going to be better, but.

Right.

I watched it. So then I was like, okay, I know it is what I watch, but if it was people that didn't watch it, that were looking for something new, they might just be like, oh, this sucks.

Exactly.

What is this? So I think that's where he comes from. That's his perspective, is that, oh, they expose themselves.

Yeah.

But I don't. I don't think he should even have that opinion because he knows full and well that they were working together at this point already.

Right? Yeah, like. Like I have said. And I was just thinking it the same thing. If I hadn't seen ECW at 1 o' clock in the morning on the Spanish channel before and I saw this, I would be like, what is this? Like, this doesn't look like that was the shittiest chair shot I have ever seen. Oh my God.

Horrible.

For you on the Bruce Pritchard tape. Not to take us away again, but.

Yeah.

What's that still?

It's still relevant, I guess. So is he saying bad, like because ECW is like a trashy production or bad because they think he thinks the matches on the card lackluster.

No, he. He thought it was trashy production.

Right.

Like if you're gonna show off yourself on Pay Per View for the first time, then it was a failure. He thought it made them look like lackluster. Like, oh, yeah, you guys are big. You're on pay per View. But look what you put out on pay per View. Like people that paid money that might not know this, we're gonna be like turned off by it.

Why? Why? What about turn off the violence?

No, no, just like production wise. Like.

The fact that, the fact that the pay per view came on and you got one of some guys. Hey, then. Then Joey starts talking and you can, you can't hear him. They got it going over the pa, not through the, the production truck.

And then you got wrestling in a little tiny arena, whatever this place is. Right?

Yeah. Where 90% of the shots are just this hard cam that we're looking at right now.

And.

Does he mention about the matches, though? Like the quality of the matches?

I. I would imagine he probably has.

Yeah. He. Yeah, he must have at some point or he's just so stubborn that he.

Probably didn't him for those chair shots.

A nice.

That was beautiful.

Yeah. If he was. If. I'm sure if he was to watch this, Bruce Richard, if he was to watch this, he would see the good in the wrestling. No way. Because he, he likes a lot of these guys that were on the show because they ended up working in wwe.

This wasn't their best work, but it was. It's good. Serviceable.

No, I think it's great for ecw, but he's, you know, sitting up in his ivory tower in WWF saying, oh, look at this crap. You know, this is pay per view. This is. You know, that's what he's basically saying at that time. Like when he, when he says this in his latest podcast or whatever he's talking about what he thought at the time is that this isn't groundbreaking. This is looks like crap. But no, it was revolutionary for Paulie to be able to get this on Pay per View. Get an alternative on Pay per View. All right, so we just had a great match and now we have RVD and Lance Tom in the ring. It's hard for you to say that, Lance.

But see, Rob Van Dam ain't like that. I ain't out here to get your respect. I ain't out here to get these people's respect. And I don't give a about respect from any of the boys back there in the ECW drag room, including Paul E.

Taking shots at the owner.

Yeah, I don't give a about him. He better give me my paycheck. That pay me you. I'm going to WWF next week.

He's already there where I'm appreciated.

It's the Monday night.

Yep. Remember that I love to work Mondays.

Land Storm. What was Land Storm's gimmick? Can I have some decorum or something like that? What was it?

Allow me to be serious.

Yeah, allow me to be serious. Who's decorum? That was somebody else. Yeah, I don't know some of that goofy matter.

What?

Oh, I see him. Never mind.

That was a. That was a shoot.

Yeah, it was in the talks that he was going to wcw, but.

Yes.

Didn't happen.

Yep. That's why they're chanting you sold out. Because at this point they were. There was a lot of rumors that he was going to WCW very soon. Like as in right after the pay per view. He. There was even thoughts that he might show up the next night on Nitro.

No, he was smart not to go. Yeah, he already been there. What the hell are you gonna do with him?

Right? He would have got lost in the shuffle.

Right.

He is credited.

I mean, this helps solidify his career really. Well, jump start it, right?

Oh, for sure.

And tonight, the living legend from Amarillo, Texas once won.

All right, we got Terry Funk video package here.

World Heavyweight Championship. But this time he wants to win it in a promotion of which he is truly the fourth.

Which is a great story because yeah, he should get that shot at the title. He's up. The little boy Raven. What about me? Oh, some video from the actual award.

Ceremony presented him with a lifetime.

Lifetime achievement award.

Yep. Yeah, the. The Terry Funk banquet from the night before. And Tommy.

Tommy gave him the award.

Yeah. One of the. One of the things that I know happened was a bunch of. A bunch of people obviously talked about Terry and all that, but Beulah got up there and she talked about how her dad either had passed away from cancer or was currently dying of cancer. And how if she ever got married, she wanted Terry Funk to walk her down the aisle. And everybody started crying, which is understandable. So it was. It was a real night. Like, it wasn't. It wasn't some made up thing like. Like they really were paying tribute to Terry Funk.

That's awesome. I wish that was recorded, the whole thing.

Oh, it is what it is. Yeah.

Is it available?

Yeah, it's like three hours long. But it's on the archive, I'm pretty sure.

Oh, okay.

Yep. Ladies and gentlemen, our next match is pretty. I'm pretty sure.

All right, we're gonna get some flipping and diving here.

Yep. Michinoku pro, some Lucha rescue.

Some legit no Cool.

Yeah, as. As. As some people might say some flipping flips and dive.

Well, that's what I just said.

The Michinoku driver.

Yes, Taka Michinoku and the Michinoku driver.

But the Michinoku driver is not from Taka Michinoku though, right? It's from somebody else.

Yeah, right. Some. Somebody else invented it. Yeah.

Right. So there's another Mitchinoku out there.

Well, great. Sasuke who's in the match. He.

Oh, he used it. Yeah, yeah, right.

I was gonna say, he. He used to wrestle. It was called the.

Mitchell could drive it, though. Oh, okay, go ahead.

No, he. He used to wrestle as Masa Michinoku. I don't know if Michinoku is his actual, like legit, real first last name, but he. That was his thing that. Hence why it's Michinoku Pro. The. The Michinoku driver that you guys know that Taka does, you know, the body slam pile driver is actually the Michinoku Driver two. And that was. That was created. Yeah, that was created by Taka Michinoku. The original Michinoku driver is basically a double underhook. Like Brain Buster. Yeah. Think like, okay, so do a double underhook. Lift them up almost like. Like a double arm ddt, but you so flex and then drop down.

So like a pedigree into a power.

Kinda. If you get. If you get the guy into a pedigree position, lift him up like you're doing a double arm butterfly suplex. But instead of flipping them all the way over, you then drop him on his head.

Oh.

Oh, damn.

Yeah, it's not. It's like a. But to the side, not like between your legs. Like a double underhook power pile driver.

The blue world order may be unstoppable at a combined weight of 535.

Yeah, that Bob Artis doesn't know how to pronounce Sasuke.

Come on, Bob.

Come on, Bob Artis. Now, a little bit of a trivia here. Grand Hamada, who is the guy that has got the white boots and black trunks and knee pads on. He had been wrestling for 25 years at this point. He was 46. At this, at this juncture, he was one of the first people to be trained in the New Japan dojo in 1972. He's also 5 foot 6.

Trained in the New Japan.

See, Joey. Joey's telling everything that I. I just said. Yeah, he. He started off as Little Hamada. And then when he went to. To Mexico to wrestle, they made. They turned. They loved him so much because he could, he could do the same stuff that the luchadors down there would do. And he was the same size that they named him, Grand Hamada or Grand Hamada, but you know, like great Hamada.

Did he have an actual. Another dojo there? Because I think that's how I interpreted that.

What do you mean?

Like, so he had his grand dojo in Japan and then did he bring it to Mexico? Like it sounded like let him have one in Mexico too.

No, the way that a lot of Japanese stars, what they would do is they would train them in Japan and you'd wrestle like the opening matches and then they would send you. This is back. I don't know if they still do it, but back in like the 70s and even the 60s, they would send guys over overseas to come to America to wrestle basically to, you know, learn new styles or to just kind of get more training and be, you know, able to wrestle every night kind of a thing. And so that's what happened with Grand Hamadas. He was in New Japan and they sent him to Mexico because that, they did that a lot. Would send the Japanese guys to Mexico or to America. And he was wrestling in CMLL or EMLL at that point. I think that's what that was called. And they loved him because like I said, he's a. He's five, six.

Yep.

And he can, for the most part, he can do everything, you know, lucha wise flying around, especially because he was like you know, 25, 26. And so he brought. Came back to. Came back to Japan after a while and was in New New Japan. And then he ends up leaving and create being part of the uwf, which was more like sport, you know, not shoot style, but kind of. And then he kind of realized that, hey, I can't. I can't do this. Like my, my style is more the Lucha flippy stuff. So he goes to all Japan after that. But yeah, and then he ended up. He ends up forming his own promotion and training guys and everything too. But. But at this, at this point, he had already shut down because he joined Michinoku Pro. He was. I think it was literally, I think it was called Ultimate Lucha Libre or Ultra Lucha Libre. It's ULL is the, the abbreviation in Japan. But he had closed that and joined Michinoku Pro by this point. But he's, he's revered as like one of the, the big, you know, legends of pro wrestling, man.

He's got a move.

Yeah.

And he's kind of like when you made it.

Yeah, yeah. And he's like I said, he started in 1972 and he retired in 2018. So he wrestled for like almost 50 years.

What was he, 70?

Yeah, he is. He is 73, 74 right now. So he was. Yeah, he was past retirement age.

That's the love for the. Yeah, for the career right there.

Yeah. Just keep busting your ass.

Yep, yep. And he's got, he's got two daughters that also are wrestlers.

Hey guys. That's why you listen to the Extreme ECW Live cast. Rick BB On a spot right there.

I don't know.

Hey Jimmy, how do we do this show before Rick?

Probably terrible.

We're just around.

I think I just talk the whole time.

Now we get some actual information. Yeah. Hey, we, we used to play off pretty good. Yeah.

No you, yeah, you guys did. Did great without me. I know and I mean that like I'm not trying to be sarcastic. They're headbutts. Grand Hamada does amazing headbutts.

There's always room to improve and that's why we brought you in.

Yep. 45 year old man doesn't doing that.

Oh, what a kick to the foot.

Yeah, I like that.

Mitchinoku.

Yeah. Taka is a dick, but it's in the best way possible.

Oh that he. He always portrays the dick better than a baby face.

Yeah.

Like when he came to WWF and he was gonna be a light heavyweight. Oh, that sucked. But once they got him involved in a similar gimmick like this. Perfect.

Yeah.

Double Irish whip.

So at this point, I don't remember. I mean I've. I've watched WCW NWO 9798. NWO, NWO didn't have a.

Like a.

Side version, you know what I mean? Like didn't have NWO Red yet. They didn't have. Right. Latino, NWO or lwo. Right.

The only thing that they had, I believe at this point was NWO Japan.

Oh, they did have NWO Japan.

That came. That, that came first. I don't remember that.

No, it didn't, it didn't necessarily come first. But you it at this point they, they had the working relationship with New Japan still. So they had reached out like masachono great.

Muda was in it. Yeah. So it wasn't like a huge thing.

But yeah, but I'm pretty sure it existed. But yeah, you're right, they didn't. They hadn't split into NWO Black and White and NWO Wolf Pack. Yeah. There was no all right Latino world order.

Yeah. So I was, I was going to try to give them credit for being innovative with, like, having BWO Japan. But.

Yeah.

Guess NWO already had a Japan version down. What's great about BWO in general is that they didn't overexpose it. They just kept it simple.

Yeah.

And they didn't take a bunch of people in, like, as much as Stevie Richard says we're taking over. They weren't taking over anything.

No, they were not.

He didn't bring anybody in either. It was just Mimi Nova, Richards and these Japanese guys. That was it.

Yeah. And 7 11.

Yes, that well. Yeah. The cam caught a guy.

Yeah, he didn't wrestle, though.

Yeah, he's probably filming porn somewhere, too.

Yeah.

Sorry.

That was a great triple team effort.

Yeah.

Is. Hey, who's the guy on. On the ring apron?

Which one?

Rick. On the. Not the bwo side. The other side.

Okay, so you got Grand Hamada. He just jumped the Power Ranger. That's the.

I was gonna say he's Green Ranger.

Yeah, that's the Masato Shoot Juki or whatever. The. The one that replaced the replacement guy. Yeah, Masato Yakashiji.

All right.

Yeah, he's. Yeah. Basically.

It'S morphin time.

Right.

Thanks. Right. Look at those pants. Dick. To go pants right there.

To go pants. Yeah, no, those. Those are nice pants. They're like. They're like aqua blue camouflage. Look at this. Yeah.

Oh, that's. That's a good spot. I like it.

And then Taka does the. You know, up yours. Two of them. Oh, right.

One person you haven't talked about. Who's the ref? Who's the ref in here?

The ref. The ref is obviously a Michinoku pro ref. I don't know his name.

Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah, him. Oh, they're like, we're not working without this guy. Jim Molyneux and.

Finnegan and Peewee.

Yeah, they don't know.

They don't speak Japanese.

Right.

We can't talk to them.

They look like Power Rangers.

Well, there is a Power Ranger.

Well, he's supposed to be the Green Ranger.

No.

Yeah, well, he's dressing like he is.

Yeah, yeah. He's dressing partnered with the Putties.

He looks like. Right now, he looks like the Green Ranger, like, as. He's, like, dressed like a Christmas elf on a break.

There you go.

Like, he's on break right now. Off. Yeah, I got to do this job. I got to help Santa. When he's in the ring, he kind of looks more like the Green Ranger, but right now, he looks like the Doof. Oh, he get his kicking the Gut.

Yeah.

That guy.

Sit the down. Yeah.

Oh, Micho. Michinoku driver couldn't even pin the Green Ranger.

That was not the Michinoku driver.

Well, this is what Joey said.

Well, I'm. I'm gonna say Joey was wrong.

Joey lied. It looked like it was that variation.

It was just a regular brain buster.

Wow.

A vertical suplex type.

I can't keep up with these flips and dives too old Rick.

Yeah. Imagine if we were actually paying attention to this. We wouldn't be able to call the action.

Joey's probably going out of his mind right now trying to call this match. I'm sure he gets like a 10 minute break after this match, which is what we're gonna do as well.

Yeah, that was a nice backdrop suplex, too.

Yeah, that was that, Terry boy.

Yep.

Taka loves to do those stomps. That's one of his favorite things to do. And he continues to do that. And it's time in wwe WWF at the time. Yeah, he does those stomps, kicks.

Stuff. Pile driver.

Oh. Oh. Holy. That's a pinfall. Come on.

He rolled out. Come. Veteran move there.

Yeah. Get the hell out of there. This guy's not legal, though. He didn't tag in, so him actually, he.

Nope. He is legal. Why, Lucha? Rules of a tag. If the legal man rolls out of the ring, any of his partners can jump in. Doesn't have to actually have a physical tag. Really?

Yes, I believe you.

Really?

Yeah. No, that's it. That's why. That's why when you watch. That's why when you watch Lucha, you have to pay attention. Because otherwise it's like you don't remember who the legal man is. Because you won't necessarily see tags like, I've watched Lucha. Matches that nobody actually has. It's just all action.

Okay. All right. Well, thanks, Rick. I learned something. Hopefully your listeners learned something. And everybody's like, mike, pr. You're a idiot. Yeah, thank you. I know.

Oh, you. If you don't watch Lucha, you don't know.

I mean, I feel like I've seen these matches. I don't.

You've seen clips of these matches? They never.

I've seen this match.

Yeah, that's true.

I guess I never really think about it, though.

Yeah.

I'm just watching it like, ah. Taka jumps over here. This guy jumped over here. Green Power Ranger is looking worse and worse as he goes along. That was pretty good. Yeah, that was good one. No, of course not. If you're wearing Power Range outfit and someone has A BWO shirt on. You're losing.

Reversal on the Irish whip.

Come on, Terry boy. Oh, there you go.

Yeah, it was a nice swinging ddt.

That was good. I like him. He's good.

Choke slam.

Oh, here comes little boy. Dick to slam one happen. Dick to go. Order it on doordash.

Yeah.

This Japanese guy looks like a cowboy. Like, like, he's so old school.

Okay.

Hey, these dudes are working, though. I like it.

Yep.

Fun. They love the power bombs, which means.

Japan power bombs, right?

Because they're all little. So it's just like, yeah, it's easy. Yeah, no move means anything.

It's like watching lightweights, like in boxing.

And they're just like, yeah, that's what it is.

No Pru. I have, I have noticed. And I mean, not that I've just noticed, but a lot of there, the, when you're in, like, Japanese pro wrestling, there are people have finishers, but then if you're at a certain level, you are allowed to kick out of the finisher. So then the guy has to come up with a more devastating version of the finisher in order to beat you. No, I, I, Dude, I like, legit. It's eventually you get like the murder, death, kill move to, like, end the feud. It's just, it's weird. It's, it's cool because it, you know, you get to see some, like, really crazy, but at the same time, you know, you see somebody kick out of, you know, the tombstone from the Undertaker, and it's like, oh, great. Now he's got to do the, the super tombstone and do it on the top rope in order to kill the guy. You know, it's like.

Wow, this is a good match, though.

No. Hell yeah. Hell yeah.

There's no way Pritchard's on this one.

No, I don't think he really would be on any match. I think he just, like I said in general, it's just.

There's your Michinoku driver.

The production, like, what most people, like me thought like, oh, this is pay per view. The same as a regular ECW show, right? It is just a super card. And you gotta remember super cards weren't on tv, right? You know, you watch them in clips like we've been watching all along. Now we've done Supercards because we've been able to get a hold of them and watch them as a whole. That's not the norm. This is the first time you're able to watch a whole super show in one shot, right? And that's what's Cool about it for ECW fans, but for people thinking, oh, this is a great alternative, then maybe not so great. And they were hyping it on WWF tv. You know, that was the working relationship. Like, oh, you know, ECW is here. They're taking over for Raw or whatever. They got people interested. Oh, let me check out ecw. Maybe some people checked it out and it sucked for some people. My opinion is people that ordered it wanted to order it because they like dcw and maybe it wasn't what they expected, but it was probably fine enough for most people. I think people that were disappointed would probably be the, you know, minimum amount of people.

Right, right. Most. Most of the people that were ordering it were ordering it because they were ECW fans to begin with.

Right, right. Like, you're not going to order this unless you're a wrestling fan.

Exactly. And more than likely, you're not going to order it as a WWF fan. You're not going to order it unless you're for some reason, like, really impressed with what you saw on RAW two months earlier, or you're a wrestling fan and you just want to watch wrestling and you don't care who was putting it on, you know?

Right.

All right, so that was a great stop to the show. He had a tag team title match with the Eliminators, ended up gaining the titles from the Dudley Boys. Great match between Robin, Damon, Lance, Storm, and then hell of a match here with the Japanese guys. Bwo Japan and all those guys. Great Sasaki. I was like, Grand Sasaki. Graham. Whatever the, you know.

Yeah.

Hamada, Sasaki, Chukiyuki, whatever the his name is.

Yeah.

Anyway, we are going to take a quick little break, and we're gonna be right back and we're gonna cover one more match, and that is the ECW World TV Championship Match. Shane Douglas with Francine against Pitbull number two.

Oh, Francine.

I know. That's why I said Francine. I was waiting for you, Davy. JB wants Francine. I know it. All right, so we'll be right back for that. So take a listen to our break song and see you in a minute. SA the.

Wild.

Go.

Wow. I wish I was all right.

Surrender Come on.

I got to go all the way this time.

Check it out.

Wow.

SA Wild.

Wild, baby. Wow. I'm always on you I'm always messed up I'm always full.

All right, we're back now for the final match of our first half of ecw Barely Legal. And it's the TV championship match. The franchise Shane Douglas taking on Pitbull number two. And we're gonna kick off with a time stamp at 59.57. You guys all set with that time stamp?

Yes, I am, sir. I'm right there.

Ready?

Yep, I'm there, too.

All right, all right, all right, all right, so I'll give a countdown three down to one and say play when I say play, y' all click play. Now the we doing here, King of the hill. All right. Three, two, one, play. Oh, yeah.

Be trying to be Raven being Raven here.

What about me? What about Stevie?

Does a better Raven than Raven?

Hell yeah, man. Stevie is the man.

I had no respect.

I had no dignity.

He was involved in the very first ECW show ever. First match. Yeah, him and Jimmy Jannetti.

Stevie, who do you think you made more money in wrestling, Raven or Stevie?

I'm gonna go with. Okay, when you say. When you say made, do you mean, like, grossed or do you mean.

Yeah, gross.

Okay. Raven. Only because I feel like he had a longer career and he also was. He was in WWF twice. He was in WCW twice. Right. And he wasn't. He was in WCW in, like, 97, 98, 99. When they were just giving guys ridiculous money for. Not for no reason, but, like, you know, oh, we'll. We'll give you four. $400,000 a year, you know, to be the mid. To be in the mid card.

Good point. The high school kid couldn't get a date to the prom.

I. No longer.

If you want to. If you want to. If you want to talk about it in terms of, like, who saved the most money.

Stevie, probably.

Well, well. But I was gonna say I can see Stevie being a lot more responsible with his money than Raven. That. That's what I'm meaning. Yeah.

Yeah, I agree with that sentiment.

I'm not. I'm not saying Stevie's, you know, set for life, but I can see him not, you know, he. He didn't. He didn't spend two grand on a couple of hookers to come to the. The Travel Lodge, you know.

Smarter with his money.

Right. Yeah.

You know, two on Stevie's home a little bit more. We've been talking about how great Stevie is for months now. Yeah. And I'm just so happy that he's actually, like, a main event, the first pay per view, because it's, like, come to, you know, fruition here. He is a main eventer in ECW on the first pay per view. Yep. He deserves it. Deserves to be there. And when I was a kid, I didn't think he did, because I just thought he was a goof. But going through all that we have, he is in that spot just like everybody else. He deserves to be there.

Absolutely.

Steve Riches is the man. And then you have blue meaning in the background.

I actually.

That's how great it is.

Yeah. I have a note about Stevie, by the way, if you wanna, from the observer that came out the day after this, but because of the fact of trying to get him mailed out and everything, obviously it was written before the pay per view. Stevie got in, got some heat from Paul Heyman because he went on Mark Madden's radio show. And during the. During the conversation, he joked about, well, I'll go to WCW if they'll pay me more than Chris Jericho. And then he worked an indie show where he took a pin from Disco Inferno. And Paul Heymon was upset because Stevie is in the main event of his pay per view and he's losing to Disco Inferno in front of a hundred people or whatever, you know, so he. He got some heat for that.

Oh, my froze.

Yeah, my froze, too, at the same time.

Oh, mine. Mine's still going. What are you at me 10425.

Why don't you pause?

You want me to pause?

No, no, no, no, don't pause because that's gonna make me impossible to edit.

Okay. All right. All right.

What's going on?

I might have to reload the video you got. Oh, ho, ho.

I have to reload. I have to.

Hey, Francine.

Oh, Francine's coming to the ring.

Francine and the franchise are coming to the ring with Riot Cops.

All right, my shift.

Let me know when you get to 105, mic.

When I get to what?

105.

Okay, that's it.

Oh, no, Francine's already gone. No, you gotta go back.

105.

105. Francine already walks down the ring by 105.

She's. She's in the ring. You'll see her. Well, once all the. Once all the. I'll Google it once. The cocaine best, I guess it is.

All right, I'm at 104.59.

Yeah.

Oh, she got clear.

What you do, Pru? Go to, like, 106 and then we'll tell you when we're at 106. It's easier to catch up if you just get ahead, like 20 seconds.

I thought you guys wanted to be at 105.

No, we're at 105. 35 now.

It was for me to join in. You were still. Oh, stuff.

All right. Sorry. My bad. 105. What? 30.

Just. Just go to 100.

106.

Okay. All right, I'm here. Shane, does it sound like.

We'll let you know. Press pause. We'll let you know when we hit106.10 seconds and then you hit play.

Thanks. Like a child over here.

106.

Boom. It goes like this.

Now when Frank Francine walks back over. Watch. Watch what she does with her hands.

Okay?

She's jerking off.

Well, wait.

Yeah.

She's getting close. And he keep. He keeps cutting Jamie.

Love that line.

Did not expect that.

You're looking at the man that has set the tempo. I'm the guy that put extreme.

Hey, no. This fun. This is funny because J. When you're talking to us earlier, but, like, this is what I do. Like, you remind me of, like, Shane Douglas. Now, like I told my kids this. You're Dean Douglas.

Yeah, basically.

Yeah. Sheen does is on point here. He's the man. I've said it numerous times. I'm never going to give up on it. He's my favorite. My favorite. Ecw Jane Douglas is the man.

When that son of a decided to come into the ring and attack me with a surgically implanted halo around his head and you all couldn't stomach it. I've had to come out here and deal with a man that's got a mask on his head who said his 1997 resolution was to screw with the franchise. I deal with it every day, and it starts tonight.

All right. You guys hear me?

Listen, we're just.

Yeah, I can hear you.

Oh, look at that shot of Francine, huh?

By re injuring that neck. But you had some help. Triple threatened Francine. So if you be so kind, I'm ready to kick some ass. I want you to hit the music and bring me my opponent.

That was awesome.

Kiss for the franchise. My turn next.

My shit's up.

What a lucky guy.

Yes, sir.

Just get to like a time ahead and let us know when you're there. We are at.

No, my mic's not working. That's the problem. Oh, oh, my headset. I can't hear you in my headset. I'm on my speaker right now.

Oh, that sucks.

Yeah, I don't know what the happened, but your.

Your, your didn't freeze P.R. right.

No, I had like. The video is fine at 10855.

Now you're behind me.

All right.

What are you at, JV?

I am at. Let me move my mouse. 109. 20.

Okay. I'm at 21. So, like a second out.

I'm 10 seconds behind.

There you go.

Catch up. But y. I don't know what the hell happened to my headset.

Compassionate human being would condone that sucks. Can you blame Pitbull too? Douglas goes down low. No depth. He won't stick to.

Depth.

He won't stick to Douglas.

Now renting.

O.

Nice reversal.

Yeah. Pitbull 2 with the chain wrestling.

Yeah. What the.

Not going to pin Shane Douglas with a headlock.

No.

That has got to throw off the game plan of the franchise.

I mean, the crowd's been standing, like, all night.

Right. Well, this is a hot feud, so.

And so, like, they're definitely excited. So it goes to the point you made earlier where, like, die hard wrestling people or like, people that know wrestling, considering the lack of access to information during this time. This is the hardcore fan base.

Oh, absolutely. Can you guys hear me now?

Yep.

No pun intent. Yeah, I can hear you.

Crap. Yeah. I don't know what the hell that was about. I had to unplug all my outlets to get that working again.

I'll give it a gron spike.

Pitbull 2 holding on to the franchise.

I don't want to ask, but.

No, you have to. 111, 15, 16.

All right, I'm at 1. 12, 22. All right.

We'll let you know when you get there. When we get there, you're not missing much like the Met. They're still, like, feeling each other.

Yeah, Right.

They're basically just doing front face locks.

Yeah, yeah. Dropping each other on their nuts.

Just like that. Right, JV. What? What time are you at PR on?

12. 25.

20.

Right.

25. Okay.

Okay.

Like 25 seconds away.

This is where you're gonna see the. The nut drops.

Yep.

Against the ropes, back and forth.

The quality is so bad. For a second there, I thought Shane Douglas was resting with a wedgie.

25.

25.

Yep. Got it. Clothesline.

Yep. One, two. All right, there's Gary.

Gary and Howes with his brother in the background. Would you go to high school? He used to call me a. A wolf in sheep's cloth. Right. So I feel like I missed out on some Francine talk. Damn it. I wanted to make some crude jokes, but damn it, I respect that woman. I love that body.

And she's. She's wearing a very nice see through dress.

Champion looks rocked. Yeah, a lot of people do. All right, there we go. Look at that guy. You. What a way back in the day. 1997. Let's get up and peg a finger.

It Meant so much.

Yes. Way more than any tweet today. You up yours. All right, so champions on the outside.

What's this say? Marry me, Francine.

Yeah.

What a. Marry me, Francine. Yeah, I'm gonna marry you. Your little stupid Philadelphia apartment.

Then she's got the franchise. Who knows who is she dating in real life here? Is it Shane?

No. No.

Is it another wrestler on the roster?

I don't think she's with anybody.

Right.

Like, yeah, I don't, I don't know.

I know she gets married to somebody and has kids.

She's married now. Yes. But I don't know who she was dating, hooking up with, whatever at this point.

And from all I've ever listened to from Shane Douglas, he never alludes to any type of romance with Francine at all.

Yeah. Anything I've ever heard. It's, it's obviously like friends, right? I mean, obviously like, you know, she's giving him a kiss and she's rubbing his lower abs and everything. So it's not like a brother sister relationship, but they're like, they're friends, you know, and.

Right.

They're, they're comfortable enough to be flirty with each other for the sake of the storyline without it actually bleeding into being reality.

Right? Yeah. From my understanding that Shane Douglas is pretty stand up guy who's been married all throughout this and has kids and he's just playing the role, right?

Yeah, he. Everything I've ever heard is he's a stand up guy in terms of that kind of stuff.

Douglas pulling on Pitbull 2 Man there A.

There's a good shot of oh yeah, for sure.

But good on Shane Douglas if he actually adhere to being a good guy and did not bang Francine at some point.

A 45 pound World Television champion.

But you know, the, the way you know, the characters portray themselves, you think, oh, Francine's slot, what, whatever. Like she could be the sweetest, nicest girl ever that you would never even want to think of banging if you're a good person, you know, like, oh yeah, she's hot, but she's so nice that. No, not doing that. I think plenty of us worked with people like that. That. Oh yeah, they're good looking, but yeah, they're so nice. Like they got their own life. I got my own life over the midsection. You don't do anything about it.

That not a good throw.

That sucked. Right? Yeah. P number two. And that's the problem. I'd rather have Gary Wolf in this match than Anthony Durant. Durante Right. I don't know, Rick, what do you think? Gary Wolf or Anthony Durante? Who's better? I mean, for the story, it makes sense that it's Pitbull number two.

Yeah.

Because of what happened.

It's.

Who do you think has a better match?

Gary Wolf, I feel like, would probably have a better match with Shane. Like in terms of if he. If ignoring the. The feud. Like if the feud was just Shane and the pit bulls, I think Gary Wolf would have a better. Sorry, forgot about that spot. I think he'd have a better match. He just dumps him like a sack of over the top rope and right through. Yeah.

And the camera doesn't get it.

No, we don't.

Yeah, we see the aftermath of it.

Right? You hear. You heard it, but you didn't see it.

Yeah, right.

And Pitbull 2 goes to the outside.

Guys. Talk about the motorcycle heads all around the ring.

Yeah. The riot cops.

Yeah, Y. Riot squad. Great sign that, dude. Oh my God.

Also notice. Notice how clean.

I was gonna point that out.

Yeah.

I was gonna say, Rick, they. They painted the floor just for tonight. They actually just. Just gotta roller out there and just clean it up.

See Bruce, they try.

Dude, Rick, the. Your guy that you work with, the 70 year old guy, he would, he'd do that job.

Oh yeah, yeah.

He would say, I'll do that. I'll clean. I'll clean this. I'll make it look real nice.

Yeah, he'll come in on a Saturday and do it too. Just to make sure that the paint fumes don't. Don't you know, cause anybody. Respiratory issues.

And this does not bode well for the franchise.

What the. Is that.

A glass table?

Is that a G rail?

Yeah.

Oh yeah, it is. God. Okay, from the other angle, I was like, what is that a patio table?

Oh yeah. It does kind of look like a patio table. Yeah.

That was shitty. That sucked too.

Yeah.

Wow.

Two shitty stuff just kicks him in the dick.

Hey, Taka. Mitchinoka style. Yeah, just stomp him in the dick. All, all it feels just stomp.

Then a headbutt in the dick.

Hey, Joey said headbutt. Same region. You can say dick. Yeah, it's the same region. Well, I know professional.

Well, also one of the. One of the things that the pay per view company demanded was that they clean up the language. So I feel like Joey is trying to be on his best behavior and not, you know, not curse and try to keep it more family friendly. I mean not. You can't really beat that family friendly. But because if you notice, none of the. Like, Shane Douglas, he didn't call anybody a piece of. He didn't say or anything like that. The crowd has been cursing. The crowd's been, you know, very vocal. But none of the wrestlers have. Have said anything really controversial or, you know, cursed or anything.

No, you're right. And that makes sense, though, right? Played safe.

Yeah.

That's probably another thing that. On some people's radar of, oh, this is not the ecw. I know, like, fans that tuned into this pay per view, like, oh, it's censored.

Right. I was. I was expecting there was no bleeps.

And instead they didn't need to pay per view. I'm paying for this. And it's not as extreme to retain.

The world television title and to step.

Even painted the floor tonight.

Quite frankly, you may hate him, but he is the one who put the E in extreme. He is the franchise and he earned that nickname in the ring. Not repelling from the ceiling.

Shot at Sting.

Bungee cord.

Yeah. With his face painted like a cartoon character.

Love to get those digs in. That was edgy. It was edgy to make fun of what's cool. But, yeah, I agree. I was on that side. Oh, yeah. Them. Even though I like it.

Yeah.

Yeah, I agree. Because they're just punching in the head.

Yeah.

It's not boring, but it's definitely not great. It's not as good as.

One of. One of my biggest complaints is this match has all. This match is pretty much the same match that they do with minor variations, but it's all the same. Same. I think partly because of Anthony Durante, you know.

Yeah. Right. You got the limitations. And the whole thing is we're waiting for the finale.

Right.

What's happening here?

Yep.

So it's not really about how they wrestle with each other. It's, let's get to the finish and the surprise.

Right.

We'll see soon.

Yeah. And to a certain extent, it also ties into them.

Oh, I like that spot, though.

Yeah, that was a good spot. To a certain extent, it ties into the, you know, censoring or trying to, you know, be on their best behavior or whatever. Because this is. I mean, for all intents and purposes, this is a blood feud. You know, Shane Douglas broke Gary Wolf's neck. Pitbull number two should watch him murder Shane Douglas. He should be beating the. Out of him. And he's not. There's no blood. He's not cracking him with a chair. So if somebody. You would. Somebody who had been watching It. You would expect that was what it was going to be like. Finally, the Pitbull is gonna murder Shane Douglas. And it's like, he's really not.

Yeah. And they should be going after Francine, too, like.

Right.

You with us? What the.

Exactly. Yeah. Like, this should be. Realistically, if I was gonna book this and it wasn't a pay per view, whatever, they would be going all over the arena. They'd be, you know, smashing the place up so that Butchie has to fix it the next day. Francine would get her comeuppance. You know, like, there would be. It would be a lot more than just this.

Yeah. I mean. I mean, you just put kind of some of the blame on Anthony Durante, but some of it might be on Shane Douglas, who doesn't want to put himself in those positions of doing brawls throughout the arena.

Oh, right.

He really doesn't do those at all.

No.

So he might just kind of be. I'm above that.

Right, right. And that's. That's fair. Like, I, you know, I don't mean to blame. Yeah. I don't mean to blame Anthony Durante.

No, no. I'm just counterpointing you, guy. It could be either way.

Oh, absolutely. Yeah. It. We. You never know.

But you really ever see Shane Douglas going to the crowd?

Yeah, for the most part. I can't really think of too many.

It's like dead hangover ropes.

Yeah. Pressing. Oh, blown up.

It comes to twist.

Give him the dildo. Sorry. So I'll throw a word out there. Yeah. Get the knucks, Nuckies. The fake knucks.

See? Is it. Is it like Jerry Lawler, Memphis. I was gonna say Jerry Lawler in Memphis. The donut hole.

Yeah. Donut hole.

Yeah. You. You know what that is?

JB Donut hole.

Yeah. No, Jerry Lawler would do this thing, and he does it everywhere, but Memphis is the most egregious. He would reach into his tights and he'd pull out his. He'd pull his fist out.

Yeah.

And he would. And it would be like he has something in his hand. He's got, like, you know, a roll of quarters or whatever. In reality, he has nothing in his hand, but he plays it off so well that everybody thinks in that arena that he has something in his hand, but all he's doing is making an O. So like a donut hole. Yeah, you know, hole in a donut. And he, you know, hits the guy with his hand. Basically. Yeah. So if you go back and you watch any really, like, old Footage they can come. They cover it up for the most part. But sometimes you can see that like he clearly has nothing in his hand. But tell that to the people at the Mid South Coliseum when he, you know, decides to take out Tommy Rich with it and you know.

Yeah.

They go nuts.

Conceal it so well, I guess sell it.

Right, right.

Like he does.

Yeah. Because he hides. He hides it with air quotes. It's. It's impressive.

The corner.

Then technology him people got like slow. Hey, wait, hold on a minute.

What the hell is this? Just hit people with a belt. That's all cool.

Kind of looks like Barry Windham now.

Referee's like, hey, why you doing that? Who look like. Wow.

Franchise.

Yeah, I get. I get what you're saying with the boots and all.

Yeah, yeah.

You're talking about like what we're watching in 93, 94. WCW.

Yeah. Lone Wolf Barry Windham.

Was not damn good. Didn't care that much about his trade.

Nope.

What's that in his hand? It's a tassel.

Oh yeah. Douglas was going in his boot for a chain.

Douglas had a chain. PB got it. Oh, Candido.

And he lands right on his up arm. 10.

No one would have been a great angle, cuz, you know, Chris Candido talking. Oh, I can't talk about Sunny. Is it Candido bang Francine like storyline. Hey you sonny. I'm banging this. You're Shawn Michaels or whatever. I'm banging Francine. Yeah, but it's probably too much. Oh, one, two, There it is. One, two, three. Shane Douglas gets the pin distraction, man.

Yeah, back to my. He hit him with a belt. He hit him with a chain. He wins with a belly to belly.

Yeah, they.

You can't win with that.

Bella kind of save this match.

I mean Douglas and a deal's a deal. I'll take the mask off, but you give up the girl or I'll give you an ass kicking of a lifetime.

You know who that is?

Yep. So here's the. Here's the thing. That wasn't mentioned that. Well, wasn't mentioned. It was mentioned, but we didn't talk about it. If Douglas won the match, that the masked man will remove his mask.

And we all know who it was all along. Of course he's gonna kiss Francine. There we go. Passed her out doing a little shimmy.

Uhoh.

Who's this? Oh, that wasn't Rick Rude. It was Brian Lee. That kiss for Insane. Not only was the. The under faker, he was the fake Rick Rude.

Fake Rick Rude.

Yep.

And we can Say goodbye to Brian Lee. Cuz this is pretty much the one of the last times you're going to see him.

We'll see him somewhere else, unfortunately.

Well, in ecw. I mean.

Chains.

Yep. Yeah. Like a couple of months later. Look at Francine, like, looks like she liked it.

Yeah, she wants to ride it. Hey, what are you doing over there?

It's like.

No, I want that. I want that. No, you don't. Who's these Fake.

Fake riot cops.

Yeah, fake riot cops that are. Oh yeah. Like you guys suck so much that you couldn't even reveal yourself, Right? There were two other dudes that were surprises. You guys are lame asses. Bulldozer, you know who you're working with?

You Bulldozer?

Yeah, Bulldozer. Brian Lee, Rick Rude. We're working with you. He had no clue. All right, so we got a hotline going on here. 1900 99. 1900 9900. What the is this? WCW for ECW.

ECW do 99 per minute. Get your parents permission, Right?

Nobody called this. All right, let's listen to this Raven promo before we wrap things up to see the greatest hardcore legend of all time defeat already.

So he can go.

On and face the greatest grappler of the modern earth. The ECW World Heavyweight Champion.

Champion. Me.

What are those steps like the fake steps in the Huxtable basement?

I don't know. From a stage.

Yeah, it's like a set.

Yeah, that's what it looks like. I honestly though, I feel like that's probably the steps to go up to the. The Eagles. Eagle's Nest. Yeah. Or something in the ECW Arena. But you're. You are right. That it. It definitely looks like they're, you know, the steps that somebody makes for like a school play, you know.

I bring up the Huxbull because everyone's Cosby show in their basement. It's just a fucking random staircase. That's it, right? Oh, we can't stop now.

The time for talking is done. I have waited my whole life for a match like this, for an opponent like you. I hate you, Sabu, and you hate me. I wouldn't want it any other way. You are gonna bring out the fire in Taz. You are gonna bring out the warrior in Taz. You, Sabu, are gonna bring out.

Hell.

You, in a few short moments are going to go through hell. And I know you're gonna put me through hell too. And I love it. I have choked out every wrestler Bill Alfonso has put in front of me.

Bam. Bam.

Bigelow. History. Paul Varlin's ultimatum fight done. How about, he's up there in the big time, he's history.

How about Van Damme?

Not a chance. How about Jericho?

Every wrestler.

Why?

Why'd I choke them out? One, because I can. Course I want to. And three, because Fonzie put his money on it.

Such a boss thing to say can shut up.

How stoned do you think Fonzie is? Right there.

He looks like Billy. Yeah. You know. You know he smoked all of the weed.

Yes, he did. He's like, I wonder what time the convenience store on the corner closes. I need some Funyuns, daddy.

Hey, have you had the Funyun chips? Like ruffles that taste like fun.

Oh, yes. I bought them last year. Awesome. Got it from my kids and they're like, these are like Funyuns. Yep. They don't like Funyuns, but they like the chip.

And you're like, ganked.

Yeah, I took them all too. Taz is that.

Man, if I was you, I wouldn't be.

Oh, okay.

Ladies and gentlemen.

Or you, I wouldn't be. All right, we're gonna stop there, save the rest for next time. Man, I'm excited. I want to keep watching. So. Yeah, we. I know it's up to you.

No, I can't. I'm tired.

I hear you, but we gotta keep it going next time. We're going to continue on with the final matches of Barely Legal. Something to get really good. You know, we've got some good warm up matches getting hyped up. And now the big shit's coming. We got Sabu versus Taz. We got the three Way Dance. Sandman, Stevie Richards, Terry Funk. The winner takes on Raven for the championship.

Whoo.

Can't wait for that. So that's gonna be on the next episode of the Extreme ECW Live cast. But Barely Legal Part two. Guys, it's been fun. Hell of a lot of fun.

Yeah.

And yeah, we always go late. That's what I said. Hey, we're gonna do half because if we do the whole episode, we'll be up to like three in the morning, so. Yeah, it's good. Move here. Cut off half time here and we'll be back soon with the next episode. Guys, anything left to say?

I do want to say the reason why I'm extra tired. I've been drinking THC seltzers.

Oh, and holy hell's that?

I did not realize how bad these were gonna me up.

What the is that?

It's like seltzer water you get from the Dispensary. And it's in. It's got weed in it.

Oh, it's like THC water.

Wicked stone.

You said you sounded. Now that you mentioned it.

I thought it was. It's. It's peach mango seltzers.

Oh.

And they got the cannabis infused and it's like. It's like 5 milligrams per can.

Oh.

And I'm. I feel like I smoked, like, four blunts.

You're feeling it.

He's feeling it. Yeah, yeah, I got it. Yeah. I got a infused hot sauce once and it was like the same thing. Like, it tells you. It tells you. They give you a measuring spoon to. To use it because that's the dosage, but it's like nothing. It's like a. A teaspoon. And that teaspoon is like 5mg or something. But, yeah, it. It hits you, you know?

Yeah, it. Plus, like, when you eat weed or I guess even drinking out, it's different than smoking it.

Oh, absolutely.

Because it kind of hits you out of nowhere. Like, I forgot I was. I was drinking these almost like they were beers.

Yep.

And like, I was like, ah, it's just like drinking a white claw. I could pound those things before I get, like, a buzz.

Yeah.

And I've had two and a half of these, and I'm like, what the. Yeah.

You and Fonzie are flying high.

Oh, yeah.

We were both looking at each other the same way. I was looking at the screen. He was looking back and like, oh.

Yeah. You called him out because you were like, is that me over there?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Hold on.

I can't talk. Basically him right now.

Yeah.

That'S fun. All right, so let me just wrap things up here quickly. Yeah. We'll be back with the next episode. It's gonna be part two of barely legal. Can't wait to continue on. I wish we could just pause now and continue, but it'll be another night and we'll continue with that. And also, please check out the bottom line wrestling casting career of stone cold Steve Austin. JV and I are currently covering stunning Steve, and we have a new episode coming out soon and it's 1994. We're heading into January 1994 of stunning Steve Austin. He is the u. S. Champion and he's dealing with some. We got chicken head and going on here, and if you want to know what that means, you got to listen to the episode. Chicken head. Yeah, Chicken. Okay. Anyway, so please also give us a follow on Twitter x whatever the at. Bottom line, cast, please follow me. Mike Pru at NPRUA 3, follow JV at John Van Damage, follow Rick BB at Leo Y85. Also follow that hybrid underscore Castle. And also check out us at the Extreme cast where you listen to us right now. Follow us. Thank you guys for listening. Thanks for being BTT Patreons. We love your support and we love being part of this JV Goon squad. See you guys next time. So long. See ya. Wouldn't wanna.

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